<div dir="ltr"><font size="4">Matt,</font><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div style><font size="4">The last part is... I first wanted to write unfortunately, but then paused: fortunately?...</font></div><div style><font size="4">Not possible.</font></div>
<div style><font size="4">Concerning this:</font></div><div style><font size="4">"...<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">contingency plans in the event one of you does not succeed at staying off..."</span></font></div>
<div style><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></span></div><div style><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font size="4">I sometimes understand some English words somehow freely.</font></span></div>
<div style><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font size="4">In case of "contingency" I think of "second plan"?</font></span></div><div style><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br>
</font></span></div><div style><font size="4"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">I know enough about how difficult it could be to </span><font face="arial, sans-serif">succeed when in a couple where BOTH are users/addicts.</font></font></div>
<div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">But I don't care much about theory or statistics, at least in this case.</font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">I hope I can shape my destiny by my own "statistics".</font></div>
<div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">But most importantly, this girl is with me since the very beginning. </font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">We've been through "Eden and hell", good times and bad times.</font></div>
<div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">So no matter what, I'm with her to the end.</font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">I guess it sounds utopic, but it just is.</font></div><div style>
<font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">I better look at it the following way: no matter what, I wish her the best and only the best.</font></div><div style>
<font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">So if one falls, the other will extend a helping hand.</font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">As for "after Ibogaine"...</font></div>
<div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">We're on a really good path, for the first time STEADY, CONTINUOUSLY. It's been a year'n'half.</font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><br>
</font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">I just want to find my way, you know. Do what I'm good at.</font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">Make some money in this materialistic world.</font></div>
<div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">Her, she wants kids, to see the world.</font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">The human stuff.</font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">:)</font></div>
<div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">We're doing our best. She's exercising every morning, lowering her dose. I work, try to start something of my own, something with a sense.</font></div>
<div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">:)</font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif" size="4">Sergey </font></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Matt S. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ibogamail@gmail.com" target="_blank">ibogamail@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    <div>Here is a question for you Sergey, what
      do you plan to do after you take ibogaine?  Because that plan is
      what will probably determine whether or not you stay "sober".  You
      and your girlfriend should also allow for contingency plans in the
      event one of you does not succeed at staying off.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
      <br>
      Matt</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
      <br>
      On 10/11/2013 6:53 PM, Sergey Sibirian wrote:<br>
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        <div>Mroz,</div>
        <div><br>
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        Yes, here it is.
        <div>It's been more than two weeks that you're off Sub,
          if I'm not mistaken (I was asking that same thing on another
          post, just overlook it... :))</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Are you weening off really fast on Kratom, or are
          you going more slowly but steady?</div>
        <div>Do you have your Iboga yet, or a place ready?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I wish you success in whatever way you choose.</div>
        <div>I'm sure interested in how people go about the
          details of "sobering up", as I'm preparing myself </div>
        <div>capitally, thoroughly. Or at least I try to do my
          best. For next spring, me and my girl.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Sergey</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 7:13 PM, L.N.
          Mroz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:leomroz24@gmail.com" target="_blank">leomroz24@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">Yes it acts very similar to hydrocodone or
              oxy, just not as strong and without the intense rush. I
              also am getting off subs for Iboga and didnt think kratom
              would be strong enough to keep me from taking my sub, but
              once you get down to a very low dose this stuff works very
              well. Surprised me honestly. 
              <div>
                <br>
              </div>
              <div>Today I got some norcos so didnt take the kratom but
                2mrw will be back on it. </div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Thanks Sergey.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Eddie good to hear from you, im still in the process
                as well getting very close though. I hope you can get
                things figured out I wish you well buddy.</div>
              <div><br>
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              <div> </div>
            </div>
            <div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:09
                    AM, Eddie Caceres <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ebrvwarr@aol.com" target="_blank">ebrvwarr@aol.com</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                        <div>What's up Mroz it's Eddie just wanted to
                          wish you well and to hang in there buddy
                          you've given me a lot of hope. I'm still in
                          the same situation. Peace.<br>
                          <br>
                          Sent from my iPhone</div>
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                            <div><br>
                              On Oct 8, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sergey
                              Sibirian <<a href="mailto:sibirianfox@gmail.com" target="_blank">sibirianfox@gmail.com</a>>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                <div dir="ltr">Hi Mroz,
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>You said it's been day five OFF
                                    SUB.</div>
                                  <div>Even though you're substituting
                                    with an opioid agonist, albeit much,
                                    much of a different, BETTER type,-
                                    Kratom-, I would still love to know
                                    how things are "feeling"?</div>
                                  <div>Sub has a particularity, SLOW
                                    RECEPTOR DISSOCIATION, which should
                                    translate in a very slow onset of
                                    withdrawals, although ultimately not
                                    necessarily less painful/suffering.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    So how many days you're off Sub?</div>
                                  <div>How long have you been taking it
                                    AND what was the initial dose?</div>
                                  <div>How does it feel?</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Hope these questions are not too
                                    intrusive.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Tnx</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Sergey</div>
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                                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct
                                    7, 2013 at 1:09 PM, L.N. Mroz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:leomroz24@gmail.com" target="_blank">leomroz24@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                    wrote:<br>
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                                        <div>I recently stopped
                                          taking my 1-2mg of Suboxone
                                          and also started to cut my
                                          Benzo intake as well. I tried
                                          to cold turkey the sub
                                          and that did not work out well
                                          at all. Insomnia, restless
                                          legs and full body aches.</div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>I remember trying Kratom a
                                          few months ago, but since I
                                          was still on the low dose of
                                          sub, I really didn't feel it
                                          and thus give it a
                                          real chance. </div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>Its now been day 5 of no
                                          sub and the ONLY reason I have
                                          not gone back on my subs is
                                          because I have kratom.... <br>
                                          <br>
                                          This blew me away at how
                                          powerful this stuff can be, my
                                          withdrawals were reduced down
                                          to ZERO, my energy shoots up
                                          and also I feel all around a
                                          sense of well being and
                                          social.</div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>I buy my kratom from <a href="http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com?ref=4813" target="_blank">www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com?ref=4813</a>
                                          and the Phenibut from <a href="http://www.liftmode.com" target="_blank">www.liftmode.com</a></div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>Has anybody had the same
                                          experience? Also has anyone
                                          herd of Phenibut, it is
                                          supposed to act on the GABA B
                                          receptor and GABA A receptor
                                          just like Benzo's.</div>
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