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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>I OBJECT ~~!! Lol<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>I guess I&#8217;d
be labelled someone who clicks with (some..) spiritual methods but I don&#8217;t
click at ALL with the 12 step programs.&nbsp; I click with Infinity Steps&#8230;.from
what I&#8217;ve seen the 12 steps (and I will probably get a kick up the bum
for saying this so wiggling my wee white pom poms in your general direction&#8230;&#8230;.)&nbsp;
they keep you at that 12<sup>th</sup> step and that&#8217;s it&#8230;.. correct
me if I&#8217;m wrong (heh this is mindvox OF COURSE YOU WILL )&nbsp; growth
should be ever evolving not stuck somewhere&#8230;.and as for the higher
power.. that&#8217;s ME of course&#8230;..heh just gotta find the On button (or
the off&#8230;. )<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Ok&#8230;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Laterz<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Kirsty<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>As for the spiritual path's
effectiveness...I have seen that those who click with spiritual methods do
really well in 12 step programs.&nbsp; Part of my recovery has kind of been the
opposite, accepting that I really don't believe in higher powers and that 12
step groups will be&nbsp;of little help to me.&nbsp; So it seems to me from
observation that what is effective varies with each individual.&nbsp; Also,
sometimes what is refereed to as spiritual could also be called ethical or
moral.&nbsp; I do find that any day I don't steal or deal drugs, it is easier
to stay clean that day.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Probably a matter partly of association.
Personally I don't think I could stay clean if I were dealing H for example.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Sean<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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