[Ibogaine] Ibogaine Digest, Vol 78, Issue 14

Valarie val.needis at gmail.com
Sat Aug 30 09:49:39 CDT 2014


Why is everything being posted on here? Well anyway Hi Donna, I was
wondering how long your son was on Methadone?
Thanks.
Val
On Aug 29, 2014 9:29 PM, "Donna Cacciola" <donna.cacciola at gmail.com> wrote:

> Connie, I had read;  1 month off methadone and 3 month of suboxine, before
> an ibogaine treatment for bet results. So he switched to SAO's for a month
> before. Since then a booster at 3/mths and 6 /mths. He had been on 60mg
> methadone daily at a clinic.
>
>
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>>    1. Re: I do not believe this is true (leomroz24)
>>    2. Re: I do not believe this is true (Jim Hadey3)
>>    3. Re: World Ayahuasca conference (ICEERS)
>>    4. Re: Ibogaine Digest, Vol 78, Issue 9 (Lisa)
>>    5. Re: I do not believe this is true (Laura Jacobson)
>>    6. Re: Ibogaine Digest, Vol 78, Issue 9 (Jim Hadey3)
>>    7. Re: I do not believe this is true (Valarie)
>>    8. Donna (star ray)
>>    9. Re: Donna (Jim Hadey3)
>>   10. Re: Donna (Valarie)
>>   11. Re: I do not believe this is true (Sister)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:15:00 -0500
>> From: leomroz24 <leomroz24 at gmail.com>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] I do not believe this is true
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>> This does seem a little to far out...although I did know a large gentleman
>> who was taking 30-40 methadone 10's and also 7-10 xanax barrz along with
>> that, so....maybe. He also lost an increadible amount of weight but he did
>> traditional rehab which I think is a scam
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > No way!
>> >
>> > How Matt got off a high dosage of methadone with ?:
>> > http://youtu.be/ma_rfgIWUCM
>> >
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>> From: Jim Hadey3 <jimhadey3 at gmail.com>
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>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] I do not believe this is true
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>> Let's be fair.  Did anyone else take approximately a similar
>> dose of methadone or opiates.  If your a former patient
>> please tell us your story.
>>
>>   - JIM
>>
>>
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>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 1:15 PM, leomroz24 <leomroz24 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > This does seem a little to far out...although I did know a large
>> gentleman
>> > who was taking 30-40 methadone 10's and also 7-10 xanax barrz along with
>> > that, so....maybe. He also lost an increadible amount of weight but he
>> did
>> > traditional rehab which I think is a scam
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> No way!
>> >>
>> >> How Matt got off a high dosage of methadone with ?:
>> >> http://youtu.be/ma_rfgIWUCM
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>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 21:23:45 +0200
>> From: ICEERS <mindvox at lunartproductions.com>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] World Ayahuasca conference
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>> Ayahuasca is reported by a number of people to be a useful integration
>> tool post-iboga (a few months afterwards) that complements the
>> therapeutic work initiated with iboga.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Ben
>>
>> On 27/08/2014, at 06:12, Valarie wrote:
>>
>> > Do you think Ayahuasca can help answer questions that I have had from
>> my Iboga visions?
>> > Thanks
>> > Lotsof love, Val
>> >
>> > On Aug 26, 2014 12:34 PM, "Jeff G" <jeffgallop at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > That video makes me want to go... And drink some brew.
>> > Thanks Ben
>> > Peace
>> > JeffG
>> >
>> > On Aug 26, 2014 10:49 AM, "ICEERS" <mindvox at lunartproductions.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > just one month left for the World Ayahuasca Conference 2014, Ibiza
>> Spain to launch...
>> > Check out this video... http://vimeo.com/103796364
>> >
>> >
>> > All the best,
>> >
>> > Benjamin De Loenen
>> > ICEERS Foundation
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>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 11:57:07 -0400
>> From: "Lisa" <lisal at taubs.com>
>> To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Ibogaine Digest, Vol 78, Issue 9
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>>
>> Donna,
>>
>> That's great for you and your son.  I am so thrilled with this product
>> and thank god for the provider, she is awesome, love her.
>> I see changes daily in my Daughter and happy for her to be a normal human
>> again.  I am waiting on booster for my daughter, once
>> I get it she can take it, and I'm sure this will give that extra kick for
>> her.
>>
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Donna Cacciola
>>   To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
>>   Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:38 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Ibogaine Digest, Vol 78, Issue 9
>>
>>
>>   Hi Connie and Lisa, I too treated my 23 year old methadone addicted son
>> with ibogaine last feb. on his birthday. It was very successful. The
>> ibogaine brought about a profound change in his physical and emotional
>> health. He took boosters at 3 and 6 months. He is drug free now 7 months.
>> I was so impressed that I treated myself (a much lower dose) My mind has
>> not felt so quiet and peaceful since the 70" with LSD. I now awaken in the
>> morning without any aches or pains. Feeling really great. Besides addiction
>> interruption it has excellant health benefits  for the physical body.
>> Anti-anxiety, anti-depressant, anti-inflammitory....
>>
>>
>>
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>>     Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:33:55 -0500
>>     From: star ray <earthshealing at hotmail.com>
>>     To: "ibogaine at mindvox.com" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>>     Subject: [Ibogaine] for lisa
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>>      Lisa , that is so great about your 23 year old daughter... I treated
>> both my sons, one for severe adhd and the other for addiction .. maybe they
>> were about 25.. well anyway, the one that was on sub took 2 treatments but
>> he has been straight for maybe 3 years now.... the other ones ADHD was much
>> better following treatment for a period of one year, he was like a changed
>> person.... but then he got scattered again... I wish he would retreat... we
>> will see
>>
>>     Peace,  connie
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>>     Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 10:27:51 -0400
>>     From: "Lisa" <lisal at taubs.com>
>>     To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>>     Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject)
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>>     Jim,
>>
>>     I noticed right after her treatment, she was not craving any sugar,
>> which I find amazing, because she would put heaping sugars in her tea and
>>     would eat all cerals loaded with sugar and chocolate bars.  Also her
>> sleeping pattern changed , she's now up at 8:00 am.
>>
>>     I just hope she dosen't have any more slip ups.
>>
>>     I also asked her would she ever do this again, maybe for spirtual
>> purposes and she said yes.
>>
>>     Yes Thank God for Ibogaine !
>>
>>     Lisa
>>
>>       ----- Original Message -----
>>       From: Jim Hadey3
>>       To: The Ibogaine List
>>       Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 6:23 PM
>>       Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject)
>>
>>
>>       Sometimes it takes more than once, many people on the
>>
>>       forum have been there 4,5 and 6 times.  For me it was the
>>
>>       4th when it cracked my head.  Yeah, changed my eating
>>
>>       habits and I consumed very little sugar and bad stuff.
>>
>>
>>       Thank God for Ibogaine,
>>
>>
>>         - JIM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>       On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>         Lisa. I also relapsed after Ibogaine. But it was very short.
>> Before Ibogaine I had not stayed clean a week as soon as I would go through
>> the roughest part (acute withdrawal)  PAWS (post acute withdrawal syndrome)
>> eventually would  get me. Plus, I just learned a few years ago what paws
>> is. So I didn't even know what was going on.
>>         The great thing about Ibogaine is I had NO paws. Plus the
>> experience has forever changed me for the better.
>>         Aftercare now.
>>
>>         On Aug 22, 2014 1:47 PM, "Lisa" <lisal at taubs.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>           Hi All,
>>
>>           Just wanted to share that my 23 year old daughter went to a
>> fabulous provider for a Ibogaine treatment.
>>           All is well with her and she was happy to do this treatment,
>> but she did cheat and used heroin.  Of course
>>           I was crushed for her.  But she got back on track and is
>> attending meetings, and for once in her life is enjoying them.
>>           Hoping she will keep up the good work.
>>
>>           This Ibogaine is such a great product, it gives you a new
>> opportunity for starting a new clean life, with some work involved.
>>
>>           I am thankful for this wonderful product, and I wish and hope
>> it eventually becomes legal in the USA.
>>
>>
>>           Lisa
>>
>>
>>
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>>     Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 07:55:23 -0400
>>     From: Jim Hadey3 <jimhadey3 at gmail.com>
>>     To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>>     Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject)
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>>     Hi Lisa,
>>
>>     Ibo is wonderful but it can not do the whole job.  No so much
>>     of the 4th try but until it cracked my head it would only last
>>     for a month but when it cracked my it lasted a year then
>>     I started with NA.  You may want to consider something like
>>     NA or counseling.  I never wanted anything like that, didn't
>>     need it for I could do it all by myself, your girl most likely
>>     feels the same.  The cleanses you get from Ibo should
>>     last a year or so but then the old cravings return (with  opiates)
>>     anyway.  So try and do all you can to stop this addiction for
>>     once and all.  It may take some work like going to meetings,
>>     if so go for there is nothing to be scared of and it is a
>>     Great learning experience.  Some people like it and some
>>     don't but it would be something you may want to consider.
>>
>>     Hey you guys and gals out there, what do you think??
>>
>>     Best to all,
>>
>>       - JIM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Lisa <lisal at taubs.com> wrote:
>>
>>     >  Jim,
>>     >
>>     > I noticed right after her treatment, she was not craving any sugar,
>> which
>>     > I find amazing, because she would put heaping sugars in her tea and
>>     > would eat all cerals loaded with sugar and chocolate bars.  Also her
>>     > sleeping pattern changed , she's now up at 8:00 am.
>>     >
>>     > I just hope she dosen't have any more slip ups.
>>     >
>>     > I also asked her would she ever do this again, maybe for spirtual
>> purposes
>>     > and she said yes.
>>     >
>>     > Yes Thank God for Ibogaine !
>>     >
>>     > Lisa
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > ----- Original Message -----
>>     > *From:* Jim Hadey3 <jimhadey3 at gmail.com>
>>     > *To:* The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>>     > *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2014 6:23 PM
>>     > *Subject:* Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject)
>>     >
>>     >    Sometimes it takes more than once, many people on the
>>     > forum have been there 4,5 and 6 times.  For me it was the
>>     > 4th when it cracked my head.  Yeah, changed my eating
>>     > habits and I consumed very little sugar and bad stuff.
>>     >
>>     > Thank God for Ibogaine,
>>     >
>>     >   - JIM
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     >> Lisa. I also relapsed after Ibogaine. But it was very short. Before
>>     >> Ibogaine I had not stayed clean a week as soon as I would go
>> through the
>>     >> roughest part (acute withdrawal)  PAWS (post acute withdrawal
>> syndrome)
>>     >> eventually would  get me. Plus, I just learned a few years ago
>> what paws
>>     >> is. So I didn't even know what was going on.
>>     >> The great thing about Ibogaine is I had NO paws. Plus the
>> experience has
>>     >> forever changed me for the better.
>>     >> Aftercare now.
>>     >>  On Aug 22, 2014 1:47 PM, "Lisa" <lisal at taubs.com> wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Hi All,
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Just wanted to share that my 23 year old daughter went to a
>> fabulous
>>     >>> provider for a Ibogaine treatment.
>>     >>> All is well with her and she was happy to do this treatment, but
>> she did
>>     >>> cheat and used heroin.  Of course
>>     >>> I was crushed for her.  But she got back on track and is attending
>>     >>> meetings, and for once in her life is enjoying them.
>>     >>> Hoping she will keep up the good work.
>>     >>>
>>     >>> This Ibogaine is such a great product, it gives you a new
>> opportunity
>>     >>> for starting a new clean life, with some work involved.
>>     >>>
>>     >>> I am thankful for this wonderful product, and I wish and hope it
>>     >>> eventually becomes legal in the USA.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Lisa
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
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>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 11:50:14 -0700
>> From: Laura Jacobson <ravegirl2012 at yahoo.com>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] I do not believe this is true
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>> Someone should type into google translate :-) my spanish is rusty but the
>> first paragraph says 'closed ibogaine clinic entrance, does not have
>> license to give the substance not allowed to give ibogaine in houses in
>> mexico without that' The second paragraph is that he's jewish and
>> explaining what that thing he's wearing on his head is ;-)?
>> That's from feb though so obviously he's back to business as usual
>> because all those ads you linked are new.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:22 PM, leomroz24 <leomroz24 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> This does seem a little to far out...although I did know a large
>> gentleman who was taking 30-40 methadone 10's and also 7-10 xanax barrz
>> along with that, so....maybe. He also lost an increadible amount of weight
>> but he did traditional rehab which I think is a scam
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> No way!
>> >How Matt got off a high dosage of methadone with ?:
>> http://youtu.be/ma_rfgIWUCM
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>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:46:54 -0400
>> From: Jim Hadey3 <jimhadey3 at gmail.com>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Ibogaine Digest, Vol 78, Issue 9
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>> Could you tell us the dose for the one on
>> Methadone.  Methadone is a hard one to
>> kick.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>   - JIM
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Donna Cacciola <donna.cacciola at gmail.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Connie and Lisa, I too treated my 23 year old methadone addicted son
>> > with ibogaine last feb. on his birthday. It was very successful. The
>> > ibogaine brought about a profound change in his physical and emotional
>> > health. He took boosters at 3 and 6 months. He is drug free now 7
>> months.
>> >  I was so impressed that I treated myself (a much lower dose) My mind
>> has
>> > not felt so quiet and peaceful since the 70" with LSD. I now awaken in
>> the
>> > morning without any aches or pains. Feeling really great. Besides
>> addiction
>> > interruption it has excellant health benefits  for the physical body.
>> > Anti-anxiety, anti-depressant, anti-inflammitory....
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:00 PM, <ibogaine-request at mindvox.com> wrote:
>> >
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>> >>    1. for lisa (star ray)
>> >>    2. Re: (no subject) (Lisa)
>> >>    3. Re: (no subject) (Jim Hadey3)
>> >>
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>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:33:55 -0500
>> >> From: star ray <earthshealing at hotmail.com>
>> >> To: "ibogaine at mindvox.com" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> >> Subject: [Ibogaine] for lisa
>> >> Message-ID: <BLU173-W10544B1B79B76123B7A267B6D10 at phx.gbl>
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>> >>  Lisa , that is so great about your 23 year old daughter... I treated
>> >> both my sons, one for severe adhd and the other for addiction .. maybe
>> they
>> >> were about 25.. well anyway, the one that was on sub took 2 treatments
>> but
>> >> he has been straight for maybe 3 years now.... the other ones ADHD was
>> much
>> >> better following treatment for a period of one year, he was like a
>> changed
>> >> person.... but then he got scattered again... I wish he would
>> retreat... we
>> >> will see
>> >>
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>> >> Message: 2
>> >> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 10:27:51 -0400
>> >> From: "Lisa" <lisal at taubs.com>
>> >> To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject)
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>> >>
>> >> Jim,
>> >>
>> >> I noticed right after her treatment, she was not craving any sugar,
>> which
>> >> I find amazing, because she would put heaping sugars in her tea and
>> >> would eat all cerals loaded with sugar and chocolate bars.  Also her
>> >> sleeping pattern changed , she's now up at 8:00 am.
>> >>
>> >> I just hope she dosen't have any more slip ups.
>> >>
>> >> I also asked her would she ever do this again, maybe for spirtual
>> >> purposes and she said yes.
>> >>
>> >> Yes Thank God for Ibogaine !
>> >>
>> >> Lisa
>> >>
>> >>   ----- Original Message -----
>> >>   From: Jim Hadey3
>> >>   To: The Ibogaine List
>> >>   Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 6:23 PM
>> >>   Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   Sometimes it takes more than once, many people on the
>> >>
>> >>   forum have been there 4,5 and 6 times.  For me it was the
>> >>
>> >>   4th when it cracked my head.  Yeah, changed my eating
>> >>
>> >>   habits and I consumed very little sugar and bad stuff.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   Thank God for Ibogaine,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>     - JIM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     Lisa. I also relapsed after Ibogaine. But it was very short. Before
>> >> Ibogaine I had not stayed clean a week as soon as I would go through
>> the
>> >> roughest part (acute withdrawal)  PAWS (post acute withdrawal syndrome)
>> >> eventually would  get me. Plus, I just learned a few years ago what
>> paws
>> >> is. So I didn't even know what was going on.
>> >>     The great thing about Ibogaine is I had NO paws. Plus the
>> experience
>> >> has forever changed me for the better.
>> >>     Aftercare now.
>> >>
>> >>     On Aug 22, 2014 1:47 PM, "Lisa" <lisal at taubs.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>       Hi All,
>> >>
>> >>       Just wanted to share that my 23 year old daughter went to a
>> >> fabulous provider for a Ibogaine treatment.
>> >>       All is well with her and she was happy to do this treatment, but
>> >> she did cheat and used heroin.  Of course
>> >>       I was crushed for her.  But she got back on track and is
>> attending
>> >> meetings, and for once in her life is enjoying them.
>> >>       Hoping she will keep up the good work.
>> >>
>> >>       This Ibogaine is such a great product, it gives you a new
>> >> opportunity for starting a new clean life, with some work involved.
>> >>
>> >>       I am thankful for this wonderful product, and I wish and hope it
>> >> eventually becomes legal in the USA.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>       Lisa
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> Message: 3
>> >> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 07:55:23 -0400
>> >> From: Jim Hadey3 <jimhadey3 at gmail.com>
>> >> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject)
>> >> Message-ID:
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>> >> Hi Lisa,
>> >>
>> >> Ibo is wonderful but it can not do the whole job.  No so much
>> >> of the 4th try but until it cracked my head it would only last
>> >> for a month but when it cracked my it lasted a year then
>> >> I started with NA.  You may want to consider something like
>> >> NA or counseling.  I never wanted anything like that, didn't
>> >> need it for I could do it all by myself, your girl most likely
>> >> feels the same.  The cleanses you get from Ibo should
>> >> last a year or so but then the old cravings return (with  opiates)
>> >> anyway.  So try and do all you can to stop this addiction for
>> >> once and all.  It may take some work like going to meetings,
>> >> if so go for there is nothing to be scared of and it is a
>> >> Great learning experience.  Some people like it and some
>> >> don't but it would be something you may want to consider.
>> >>
>> >> Hey you guys and gals out there, what do you think??
>> >>
>> >> Best to all,
>> >>
>> >>   - JIM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Lisa <lisal at taubs.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >  Jim,
>> >> >
>> >> > I noticed right after her treatment, she was not craving any sugar,
>> >> which
>> >> > I find amazing, because she would put heaping sugars in her tea and
>> >> > would eat all cerals loaded with sugar and chocolate bars.  Also her
>> >> > sleeping pattern changed , she's now up at 8:00 am.
>> >> >
>> >> > I just hope she dosen't have any more slip ups.
>> >> >
>> >> > I also asked her would she ever do this again, maybe for spirtual
>> >> purposes
>> >> > and she said yes.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes Thank God for Ibogaine !
>> >> >
>> >> > Lisa
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > *From:* Jim Hadey3 <jimhadey3 at gmail.com>
>> >> > *To:* The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> >> > *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2014 6:23 PM
>> >> > *Subject:* Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject)
>> >> >
>> >> >    Sometimes it takes more than once, many people on the
>> >> > forum have been there 4,5 and 6 times.  For me it was the
>> >> > 4th when it cracked my head.  Yeah, changed my eating
>> >> > habits and I consumed very little sugar and bad stuff.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank God for Ibogaine,
>> >> >
>> >> >   - JIM
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Lisa. I also relapsed after Ibogaine. But it was very short. Before
>> >> >> Ibogaine I had not stayed clean a week as soon as I would go through
>> >> the
>> >> >> roughest part (acute withdrawal)  PAWS (post acute withdrawal
>> syndrome)
>> >> >> eventually would  get me. Plus, I just learned a few years ago what
>> >> paws
>> >> >> is. So I didn't even know what was going on.
>> >> >> The great thing about Ibogaine is I had NO paws. Plus the experience
>> >> has
>> >> >> forever changed me for the better.
>> >> >> Aftercare now.
>> >> >>  On Aug 22, 2014 1:47 PM, "Lisa" <lisal at taubs.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hi All,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Just wanted to share that my 23 year old daughter went to a
>> fabulous
>> >> >>> provider for a Ibogaine treatment.
>> >> >>> All is well with her and she was happy to do this treatment, but
>> she
>> >> did
>> >> >>> cheat and used heroin.  Of course
>> >> >>> I was crushed for her.  But she got back on track and is attending
>> >> >>> meetings, and for once in her life is enjoying them.
>> >> >>> Hoping she will keep up the good work.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> This Ibogaine is such a great product, it gives you a new
>> opportunity
>> >> >>> for starting a new clean life, with some work involved.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I am thankful for this wonderful product, and I wish and hope it
>> >> >>> eventually becomes legal in the USA.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Lisa
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:06:15 -0700
>> From: Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] I do not believe this is true
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>> I didn't go looking for this it was sent to me by IBOGA WORLD!
>>
>> http://www.ibogaworld.com/2444/how-matt-got-off-a-high-dosage-of-methadone-with-ibogaine/
>> No way! They claim that not just one patient   but 2 people take Iboga to
>> get off 400mgs of Methadone walking on the beach after 2 days?
>> I have always known Iboga World to be very nice people. Maybe there
>> account
>> was hacked?.
>> This is the kind of crap and lies that kill people!
>> Val
>> On Aug 28, 2014 1:37 PM, "Laura Jacobson" <ravegirl2012 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2014-August/060146.html
>> >
>> > Someone should type into google translate :-) my spanish is rusty but
>> the
>> > first paragraph says 'closed ibogaine clinic entrance, does not have
>> > license to give the substance not allowed to give ibogaine in houses in
>> > mexico without that' The second paragraph is that he's jewish and
>> > explaining what that thing he's wearing on his head is ;-)
>> > That's from feb though so obviously he's back to business as usual
>> because
>> > all those ads you linked are new.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >   On Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:22 PM, leomroz24 <leomroz24 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > This does seem a little to far out...although I did know a large
>> gentleman
>> > who was taking 30-40 methadone 10's and also 7-10 xanax barrz along with
>> > that, so....maybe. He also lost an increadible amount of weight but he
>> did
>> > traditional rehab which I think is a scam
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > No way!
>> > How Matt got off a high dosage of methadone with ?:
>> > http://youtu.be/ma_rfgIWUCM
>> >
>> >
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>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:12:27 -0500
>> From: star ray <earthshealing at hotmail.com>
>> To: "ibogaine at mindvox.com" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Subject: [Ibogaine] Donna
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>>  Donna, hey... how long was your son off methadone before you treated him
>> and how much was he on......??  I feel exactly the same way you do about
>> ibogaine... miracle of nature and heals the body and mind...
>> My son was only off sub 2 weeks and I treated him but had to retreat
>> later,  it would have been much better if had been off sub longer.... I did
>> not know then and a treatment person at that time told me 2 weeks,  now the
>> going recommendation is 3 months, I am pretty sure it is the same with
>> methadone, right guys??
>>
>> Way to go Girl.............!!!!
>>
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:37:32 -0400
>> From: Jim Hadey3 <jimhadey3 at gmail.com>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Donna
>> Message-ID:
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>> Most people say three months on short acting opiates
>> (heroin oxy, lortab, etc).
>>
>>   - JIM
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:12 PM, star ray <earthshealing at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Donna, hey... how long was your son off methadone before you treated him
>> > and how much was he on......??  I feel exactly the same way you do about
>> > ibogaine... miracle of nature and heals the body and mind...
>> > My son was only off sub 2 weeks and I treated him but had to retreat
>> > later,  it would have been much better if had been off sub longer.... I
>> did
>> > not know then and a treatment person at that time told me 2 weeks,  now
>> the
>> > going recommendation is 3 months, I am pretty sure it is the same with
>> > methadone, right guys??
>> >
>> > Way to go Girl.............!!!!
>> >
>> > Peace,  connie
>> >
>> >
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:36:43 -0700
>> From: Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Donna
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>> Don't forget about Kratom Jim. :)
>> On Aug 28, 2014 4:22 PM, "Jim Hadey3" <jimhadey3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Most people say three months on short acting opiates
>> > (heroin oxy, lortab, etc).
>> >
>> >   - JIM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:12 PM, star ray <earthshealing at hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Donna, hey... how long was your son off methadone before you treated
>> him
>> >> and how much was he on......??  I feel exactly the same way you do
>> about
>> >> ibogaine... miracle of nature and heals the body and mind...
>> >> My son was only off sub 2 weeks and I treated him but had to retreat
>> >> later,  it would have been much better if had been off sub longer....
>> I did
>> >> not know then and a treatment person at that time told me 2 weeks,
>> now the
>> >> going recommendation is 3 months, I am pretty sure it is the same with
>> >> methadone, right guys??
>> >>
>> >> Way to go Girl.............!!!!
>> >>
>> >> Peace,  connie
>> >>
>> >>
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:58:50 -0400
>> From: Sister <sistereboga at yahoo.com>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] I do not believe this is true
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>> So very dangerous and I don't believe it.
>>
>> Smooth journey,
>> Sister
>>
>> > On Aug 28, 2014, at 6:06 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I didn't go looking for this it was sent to me by IBOGA WORLD!
>> http://www.ibogaworld.com/2444/how-matt-got-off-a-high-dosage-of-methadone-with-ibogaine/
>> > No way! They claim that not just one patient   but 2 people take Iboga
>> to get off 400mgs of Methadone walking on the beach after 2 days?
>> > I have always known Iboga World to be very nice people. Maybe there
>> account was hacked?.
>> > This is the kind of crap and lies that kill people!
>> > Val
>> >
>> >> On Aug 28, 2014 1:37 PM, "Laura Jacobson" <ravegirl2012 at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2014-August/060146.html
>> >>
>> >> Someone should type into google translate :-) my spanish is rusty but
>> the first paragraph says 'closed ibogaine clinic entrance, does not have
>> license to give the substance not allowed to give ibogaine in houses in
>> mexico without that' The second paragraph is that he's jewish and
>> explaining what that thing he's wearing on his head is ;-)
>> >> That's from feb though so obviously he's back to business as usual
>> because all those ads you linked are new.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:22 PM, leomroz24 <leomroz24 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> This does seem a little to far out...although I did know a large
>> gentleman who was taking 30-40 methadone 10's and also 7-10 xanax barrz
>> along with that, so....maybe. He also lost an increadible amount of weight
>> but he did traditional rehab which I think is a scam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> No way!
>> >> How Matt got off a high dosage of methadone with ?:
>> http://youtu.be/ma_rfgIWUCM
>> >>
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