[Ibogaine] star here :)

Jeff G jeffgallop at gmail.com
Sun Sep 29 09:31:49 CDT 2013


Don't feel guilty....
 On Sep 28, 2013 9:23 AM, "Valarie" <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, feeling guilty, that was mean. Sorry.
> Lotsof Love, Val
> On Sep 27, 2013 8:57 PM, "Donny Drake" <donnydrake18 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I was planning to do the Iboga but didnt need it...I just stayed on SAOs
>> and did micro dosing of Iboga few time,s thats all..Also used 1 or 2 valium
>> and few zopiclone for sleep...I didnt get much withdrawals or PAWS and am
>> over 3 months clean and feel awesome..My doctor said its because I have a
>> strong edocrine system and how my age played a big factor, also am a sporty
>> guy and play sports almost daily, am in good shape, am thin and a have
>> positive frame of mind..I was also eating lot of vegetables and drinking
>> lots of water...I even sleep 9-10 hours every night, I never missed a day
>> of sleep while getting of subs and SAOs...I only took 4 days off work but I
>> dont think I needed to... No I believe some people get lucky and like my
>> doctor and Iboga provider said being a guy/male is a touch easoer then
>> being  female when it comes to getting off subutex or suboxone...If your
>> under 29 it makes a HUGE difference according to many experts...Personality
>> plays big part because if your naturally less anxious,less paranoid less
>> depressed etc it all helps the detox and PAWS...I was lucky in the sense I
>> got a lovely model type girlfriend who is very supportive, lovely gorgeous
>> children,kind parents, no money worries, no biill issues, a great job,,
>> lots of money in the bank, good  friends etc basically no side issues of
>> life to worry about... Pluss according to several reports the Iboga only
>> nitially helps with some acute withrawals, but I got by that pretty rasoly,
>> and pretty normal now, so dont need anything..
>>
>> Good luck people.
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>
>> *To:* The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 September 2013, 8:47
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ibogaine] star here :)
>>
>> Star, I am no expert, but I have been on Suboxone 3x. I always was told
>> that if I took a SAO while on Sub that was a relapsed. ( drug rehabs)  so
>> anyways that is how I have gone on and off.  You are on such a low amount,
>> I would test it, the thing is no matter how low your dose is (speaking from
>> experience) it is still hard for opiots to break through.  When I was on
>> Sub I could go 3 days before I felt anything near a detox, much of the time
>> I actually forgot to take my Sub. But even after 2-3 days I would not get a
>> buzz off opiots! It was very frustrating to me. I am an addict and I wanted
>> to get that feeling. Anyway this is my suggestion,  go as long as you can
>> without the Sub, from my experience I don't feel any withdrawal for 3-4
>> days But everyone is different, so when you feel the slightest detox take
>> these SAOs, just watch out for the Tylenol and Ibuprofen that can kill your
>> liver.  Anyways, take the SAOs get off the Sub for as long as possible then
>> do your treatment.  It does matter how long you are off Sub (from
>> whatvibubderstand) So stay off as long as you can. I believe Eric Taub when
>> he tells me even a low dose of sub, can keep the ibogaine from clearing
>> your receptors.  I love you, and I just want the best for you. I consider
>> you my friend,  and I deeply care about you. Keep me posted. And its so
>> AWESOME that you were able to quit the valium, benzos are more dangerous
>> then opiots. Your doing a great job! And your an insperation.
>> Lotsof Love,  Val
>> On Sep 25, 2013 6:57 PM, "Jim Hadey3" <jimhadey3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Star,
>>
>> You gave us some good info, oh man did I get the heaves on 18.3 or 1.5gm.
>>  I almost went to the hospital but called a bud and she said quit drinking
>> water for 24 hours and it worked - thank God.
>>
>> I once took something like a mini dose, less than a 1 grammer, and was
>> sick as hell.  But I took it while in a very bad mood.  Never take it when
>> your in a bad mood.  But anyway I have heard if you take too small of a
>> dose you go through a w/d and sickness, just from what I heard.
>>
>> I have tapered two or three times in my life.  You got to get very low
>> and it seemed that catapress may of helped for it got me feeling week and I
>> was driving to FL.  Imodium or better yet if you can get Lomotil it can
>> help somewhat.  It seems sometime I can not cut down a speak and other
>> times I can and had very little pain and suffering.  Oh I hope I never have
>> to go through w/d again.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>   - JIM
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:34 PM, star ray <earthshealing at hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have done ibogaine a few times and the ONLY time I had no nausea was
>> when I took it with Benadryl,  it was a miracle.  It blocks some receptors
>> in the stomach, that is as much as I know.  I was at the peak of the
>> experience and i was like "WOW, no nausea at all" Sorry to be disgusting
>> but I always have trouble with my bowels,  passed some parasites... it
>> kills them, it is amazing, amazing stuff for healing the body. IN ADDITION
>> my liver enzymes have been normal since my last treatment 2 1/2 years ago
>> and my viral load (I have hep c) has remained low,  So i was mostly
>> treating for my liver in the past.  I never had a heavy duty addiction
>> problem, to some it might not seem to be a problem, to me it did .. oh
>> whatever!! :)  I screwed up bottom line, due to body pain.
>> Yes Val, I have 40 vicoprohen, hopefully that will do it,  and I have
>> some ultram so I can switch over, I have the date set to stop sub.. 11-20,
>> although that could change as I also have a right to change my mind
>> .....hahahah......I may do some TA boosters instead,  I am still
>> contemplating it... UGH, I hate boosters..........who knows maybe i can
>> keep tapering down to nothing before then, that is my plan.  I would like
>> to only take a 1/2 dose of HCL and maybe some boosters after.  With the
>> small amount that i am on, which may be smaller (.25 mg presently)  by the
>> time I get off. I think this might work, any comments would be appreciated.
>> Most people jump off at 1 mg,  ALL i can say is NEVER AGAIN
>>
>> peace to all STAR
>>
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