[Ibogaine] star here :)

Valarie val.needis at gmail.com
Sat Sep 28 00:24:34 CDT 2013


Wow Donnie Drake, You must be the coolest person on this list!
Lotsof Love, Val
On Sep 27, 2013 8:57 PM, "Donny Drake" <donnydrake18 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I was planning to do the Iboga but didnt need it...I just stayed on SAOs
> and did micro dosing of Iboga few time,s thats all..Also used 1 or 2 valium
> and few zopiclone for sleep...I didnt get much withdrawals or PAWS and am
> over 3 months clean and feel awesome..My doctor said its because I have a
> strong edocrine system and how my age played a big factor, also am a sporty
> guy and play sports almost daily, am in good shape, am thin and a have
> positive frame of mind..I was also eating lot of vegetables and drinking
> lots of water...I even sleep 9-10 hours every night, I never missed a day
> of sleep while getting of subs and SAOs...I only took 4 days off work but I
> dont think I needed to... No I believe some people get lucky and like my
> doctor and Iboga provider said being a guy/male is a touch easoer then
> being  female when it comes to getting off subutex or suboxone...If your
> under 29 it makes a HUGE difference according to many experts...Personality
> plays big part because if your naturally less anxious,less paranoid less
> depressed etc it all helps the detox and PAWS...I was lucky in the sense I
> got a lovely model type girlfriend who is very supportive, lovely gorgeous
> children,kind parents, no money worries, no biill issues, a great job,,
> lots of money in the bank, good  friends etc basically no side issues of
> life to worry about... Pluss according to several reports the Iboga only
> nitially helps with some acute withrawals, but I got by that pretty rasoly,
> and pretty normal now, so dont need anything..
>
> Good luck people.
>
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>  *From:* Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>
> *To:* The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 September 2013, 8:47
> *Subject:* Re: [Ibogaine] star here :)
>
> Star, I am no expert, but I have been on Suboxone 3x. I always was told
> that if I took a SAO while on Sub that was a relapsed. ( drug rehabs)  so
> anyways that is how I have gone on and off.  You are on such a low amount,
> I would test it, the thing is no matter how low your dose is (speaking from
> experience) it is still hard for opiots to break through.  When I was on
> Sub I could go 3 days before I felt anything near a detox, much of the time
> I actually forgot to take my Sub. But even after 2-3 days I would not get a
> buzz off opiots! It was very frustrating to me. I am an addict and I wanted
> to get that feeling. Anyway this is my suggestion,  go as long as you can
> without the Sub, from my experience I don't feel any withdrawal for 3-4
> days But everyone is different, so when you feel the slightest detox take
> these SAOs, just watch out for the Tylenol and Ibuprofen that can kill your
> liver.  Anyways, take the SAOs get off the Sub for as long as possible then
> do your treatment.  It does matter how long you are off Sub (from
> whatvibubderstand) So stay off as long as you can. I believe Eric Taub when
> he tells me even a low dose of sub, can keep the ibogaine from clearing
> your receptors.  I love you, and I just want the best for you. I consider
> you my friend,  and I deeply care about you. Keep me posted. And its so
> AWESOME that you were able to quit the valium, benzos are more dangerous
> then opiots. Your doing a great job! And your an insperation.
> Lotsof Love,  Val
> On Sep 25, 2013 6:57 PM, "Jim Hadey3" <jimhadey3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Star,
>
> You gave us some good info, oh man did I get the heaves on 18.3 or 1.5gm.
>  I almost went to the hospital but called a bud and she said quit drinking
> water for 24 hours and it worked - thank God.
>
> I once took something like a mini dose, less than a 1 grammer, and was
> sick as hell.  But I took it while in a very bad mood.  Never take it when
> your in a bad mood.  But anyway I have heard if you take too small of a
> dose you go through a w/d and sickness, just from what I heard.
>
> I have tapered two or three times in my life.  You got to get very low and
> it seemed that catapress may of helped for it got me feeling week and I was
> driving to FL.  Imodium or better yet if you can get Lomotil it can help
> somewhat.  It seems sometime I can not cut down a speak and other times I
> can and had very little pain and suffering.  Oh I hope I never have to go
> through w/d again.
>
> Best,
>
>   - JIM
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:34 PM, star ray <earthshealing at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>
> I have done ibogaine a few times and the ONLY time I had no nausea was
> when I took it with Benadryl,  it was a miracle.  It blocks some receptors
> in the stomach, that is as much as I know.  I was at the peak of the
> experience and i was like "WOW, no nausea at all" Sorry to be disgusting
> but I always have trouble with my bowels,  passed some parasites... it
> kills them, it is amazing, amazing stuff for healing the body. IN ADDITION
> my liver enzymes have been normal since my last treatment 2 1/2 years ago
> and my viral load (I have hep c) has remained low,  So i was mostly
> treating for my liver in the past.  I never had a heavy duty addiction
> problem, to some it might not seem to be a problem, to me it did .. oh
> whatever!! :)  I screwed up bottom line, due to body pain.
> Yes Val, I have 40 vicoprohen, hopefully that will do it,  and I have some
> ultram so I can switch over, I have the date set to stop sub.. 11-20,
> although that could change as I also have a right to change my mind
> .....hahahah......I may do some TA boosters instead,  I am still
> contemplating it... UGH, I hate boosters..........who knows maybe i can
> keep tapering down to nothing before then, that is my plan.  I would like
> to only take a 1/2 dose of HCL and maybe some boosters after.  With the
> small amount that i am on, which may be smaller (.25 mg presently)  by the
> time I get off. I think this might work, any comments would be appreciated.
> Most people jump off at 1 mg,  ALL i can say is NEVER AGAIN
>
> peace to all STAR
>
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