[Ibogaine] Star here

Valarie val.needis at gmail.com
Wed Sep 25 10:57:54 CDT 2013

Star, sorry for righting on your thread, but I have tried to start a new
thread and nothing has happened and it has been 24hours . Anyways maybe
someone here could give me some advice. My friend is 9 weeks pregnant she
is on 16mgs of Subutex the doctors told her she can transfer to methadone
and she asked my oppinion.  My oppinion was that since Methadone has been
around a lot longer That may be the way to go, not many doctors know about
Subutex. Last time she got pregnant she was on.Suboxone and the doctor
just.cut her off completely, so.she went to SAOs and at the end she was on
2mgs of Subutex. The baby had no withdrawal and was able to do go with her
that night, But just because you get lucky once doesn't mean you are going
to get the same result. I know there both bad, but it is her decision to
keep the baby. If this was your friend or family member what would you
Lotsof Love, Val
On Sep 24, 2013 10:51 AM, "Valarie" <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Star, Can you get SAOs for a short amount of time? Then you can transfer
> to those and still be able to keep all your commitments and put some time
> between your ibogaine and the Sub.
> Lotsof Love, Val
> On Sep 20, 2013 6:35 PM, "star ray" <earthshealing at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey Val,  I had my real name also at the beginning, then later i googled
>> myself and saw a conversation come up... Oh crud, I freaked out so that is
>> why I am now Star...........
>> Now I have another question  for you guys... what about closed groups on
>> facebook, no one can see that group from your profile right??  I know if
>> they go to some closed groups you are on they may see your name, I am not
>> going to worry about that.... I feel like I live a double
>> life..............arggghhhh
>> OK, on to more disturbing stuff, I am now 11 weeks off valium cold
>> turkey, I was taking 2.5 to 5 mg daily for two weeks,  getting better but
>> still don't feel like myself,  probably or maybe because I have tapered own
>> to about .10 to .15 mg sub daily,  I want to just get off of it completely
>> but my friends will kill me cause the tennis season is hot and heavy an I
>> know I will be tired and not able to play.... isn't that stupid, neglecting
>> my health and emotions for tennis.  I know I am not taking much but I still
>> feel like I have lost my sense of joy........I have about 25 vicoprophen
>> and 900 mg hcl............I suppose I will wait to first of December and
>> just stop and do a flood a couple weeks later..............arggghhh, maybe
>> I won't do a flood and with the limited amount I am on I won't have much
>> withdrawal... and right at Christmas..............oh what a tangled web we
>> weave when we touch any DRUG at all........any suggestions would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>> Peace to all, STAR (hopefully shining soon)
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