[Ibogaine] Ibogaine Digest, Vol 67, Issue 2

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: for Jeff and all (Jeff G)
   2. Re: for Jeff and all (Valarie)
   3. Re: for Jeff and all (Valarie)
   4. Re: for Jeff and all (Valarie)
   5. Re: for Jeff and all (Randy Faulconer)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 12:27:59 -0700
From: Jeff G <jeffgallop at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] for Jeff and all
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Thanks Sister..
Nope I won't be picking up anything but a job.....I hope, being broke sucks.
I did pick up a little work this weekend and even went out last night for
some music, dancing, and a couple of beers.
All the heavy stress and anxiety was around a trip I had to make back to
nyc for moms birthday.
I ran into a ten milligram methadone pill  when I was packing , at the time
I was really freaking out about the work, travel, family issues, but when I
found that pill before I could even think about it I walked into the
bathroom and flushed it.
It was surreal and time was moving in slow motion like when your in a car
wreck. (noribogaine ROCKS)...but I really was not tempted to eat it as I
KNOW that one taste of an opiate is all it takes for me....it's just a
matter of time, maybe even hours before I'm downtown copping dope....
To be clear and honest I did use some Benzos when I was on the verge of
freaking out back east, and do have some more but I think I need to give
them to a friend to hold, cause god damn it I like getting high and they
are a temptation I don't need.
Thanks for checking in.
Peace
JeffG
 Hey Jeff,

I apparently have missed your post around the difficulties your facing
now...a few post go straight to spam...if I don't check daily it's goes to
cyberspace forever w/o me reading.  So no clue on what's happening in your
life but will say one thing.  Don't pick up even if your ass falls off.
 This too shall pass.
Thinking about you.

Sister

On Sep 1, 2013, at 4:10 AM, Jeff G <jeffgallop at gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for your kind words and sentiments.
I only recounted my first wife and my rehab experience to try and help Val,
but I think my recent quick trip to NYC where my first wife and I lived and
she died kicked up a bunch of stuff.....it helps to write it out. I thank
you all for indulging me....
I am not using the Benzos regularly.
But I know what a slippery slope it is .
It's been quite a ride and I really don't want to screw it now.
Thanks again
Peace
JeffG


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 02:12:12 -0700
From: Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] for Jeff and all
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Thank you for that personal story Jeff. I have been on xanex for 12 years
and I was on Methadone for 3 years where a rehab told my family they could
detox me no problem. My grandparents paid $15,000 fir a 21 day rehab and my
family believed they would detox me. They lies to my family at the end and
said I was all detoxed. My family would not take me to a hospital they were
told I would "doctor shop" , I know I had seizures and I really think my
mom and dad thought I was being DRAMATIC when I was climbing the walls. I
escaped them by going to a mental hospital, being put on Sub. I told my mom
that I am trying to get off sub,  I told her I was sorry but I could not
tell anyone because grandpa was dying, she was just like ok with no
expression I told her I had another seizure, she is in such denial. I told
her about Ibogaine,  she watched some stuff on it. "Valarie, it's not true
look what happened before" I want to leave my current living situation
except I can't imagine anyone in my family going for it and because of my
addiction I 100% rely on someone else. I guess just stay put, keep moving
forward and changing my life, do Ibogaine and have the self esteem to take
care of myself. I am still doing the intervention on my family. How does
anyone in the US convince their family about Ibogaine. Don't they already
think we are crazy? Or is it just me? Lotsof Love, Val
On Sep 1, 2013 1:48 AM, "Jeff G" <jeffgallop at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for your kind words and sentiments.
> I only recounted my first wife and my rehab experience to try and help
> Val, but I think my recent quick trip to NYC where my first wife and I
> lived and she died kicked up a bunch of stuff.....it helps to write it out.
> I thank you all for indulging me....
> I am not using the Benzos regularly.
> But I know what a slippery slope it is .
> It's been quite a ride and I really don't want to screw it now.
> Thanks again
> Peace
> JeffG
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 02:31:22 -0700
From: Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] for Jeff and all
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Jeff, Your a great soul. It seems to me that most addicts are the most
compassionate people I have ever known. <3 Val
On Sep 1, 2013 2:12 AM, "Valarie" <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for that personal story Jeff. I have been on xanex for 12 years
> and I was on Methadone for 3 years where a rehab told my family they could
> detox me no problem. My grandparents paid $15,000 fir a 21 day rehab and my
> family believed they would detox me. They lies to my family at the end and
> said I was all detoxed. My family would not take me to a hospital they were
> told I would "doctor shop" , I know I had seizures and I really think my
> mom and dad thought I was being DRAMATIC when I was climbing the walls. I
> escaped them by going to a mental hospital, being put on Sub. I told my mom
> that I am trying to get off sub,  I told her I was sorry but I could not
> tell anyone because grandpa was dying, she was just like ok with no
> expression I told her I had another seizure, she is in such denial. I told
> her about Ibogaine,  she watched some stuff on it. "Valarie, it's not true
> look what happened before" I want to leave my current living situation
> except I can't imagine anyone in my family going for it and because of my
> addiction I 100% rely on someone else. I guess just stay put, keep moving
> forward and changing my life, do Ibogaine and have the self esteem to take
> care of myself. I am still doing the intervention on my family. How does
> anyone in the US convince their family about Ibogaine. Don't they already
> think we are crazy? Or is it just me? Lotsof Love, Val
> On Sep 1, 2013 1:48 AM, "Jeff G" <jeffgallop at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your kind words and sentiments.
>> I only recounted my first wife and my rehab experience to try and help
>> Val, but I think my recent quick trip to NYC where my first wife and I
>> lived and she died kicked up a bunch of stuff.....it helps to write it out.
>> I thank you all for indulging me....
>> I am not using the Benzos regularly.
>> But I know what a slippery slope it is .
>> It's been quite a ride and I really don't want to screw it now.
>> Thanks again
>> Peace
>> JeffG
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 13:24:26 -0700
From: Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] for Jeff and all
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Jeff, That is AWSOME you flushed that opiot before having a second thought.
You know.that 1 pill can completely destroy your life. I have my bf hold on
to my anxiety medication, it is to easy for me to take one just because I
am.having a feeling I don't want to deal with, especially with xanex. I
think that is one of the most over prescribed drugs in the..


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