[Ibogaine] Poppy Pods

Valarie val.needis at gmail.com
Sat Oct 12 18:06:16 CDT 2013


Thanks.for your concern Jim.

I do not and will not be mixing Clonidine with pods, and benzodiazepines.

Does anyone know of anything natural to help with the glass in the legs
feeling?

Just trying to keep myself comfortable,  I'm smoking a lot of pot. ;-)

Lotsof Love, Val
On Oct 12, 2013 3:41 PM, "Jim Hadey3" <jimhadey3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Again,
>
> I would in no way take Colnidine within a day or two of Ibo.  When you
> take the Ibo you want to be 100% free of all drugs.
>
>   - JIM
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Jim Hadey3 <jimhadey3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Val,
>>
>> Colnidine did not do much when they gave it to me at the treatment
>> center.  If you take too much you become very fatigued of course your
>> detoxing which causes fatigue.  Colnidine is suppose to help the hot and
>> cold running flashes.  I did a taper once and used it and was very low and
>> it may of helped.
>>
>> Glad you got the pods,
>>
>>   - JIM
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I got my Pods,  Thank you for all your help Junkboy
>>>
>>> The are helping, but my tolerence jumped
>>> when I ran out of pills and went to heroin for the last 3 days. (I had
>>> never used heroin before but i was desperate and that's all I could get, I
>>> smoked it)
>>>
>>> Now I have completely stopped smoking herion and its Pods only.
>>>
>>> I can fill a slight buzz from the Pods but I am also smoking pot, but
>>> the pain in my legs is still very bad.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of anything besides Colnidine, to help with the leg
>>> cramps?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lotsof  Love, Val
>>> On Oct 11, 2013 11:44 AM, "Sergey Sibirian" <sibirianfox at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> lol!!!
>>>>
>>>> look what I first found when searched for MangDa:
>>>>
>>>> "Mangda are large insects about 8 cms long, that live in rice fields
>>>> in Northern Thailand. During the evening they fly around lights and are
>>>> easily netted and eaten. Mang-da is also the name given to boyfriends who
>>>> live off their girlfriends. They get the name because they flit from light
>>>> to light. Similar to the English phrase 'bar-fly'. Someone is said to be a
>>>> mang-da if their girlfriends work and they don't..."
>>>>
>>>> lol....
>>>>
>>>> Sergey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A good site to order your Kratom is Nomadbotanicals.com , the man is
>>>>> really nice and always sends extra :)
>>>>> But do not write or say anything about consuming the Kratom. It is "
>>>>> incense" .
>>>>> I found the strongest and the most opiot like to be MangDa, I found on
>>>>> Kratom  that your tolerence will shoot up quickly, if you take to much you
>>>>> will end up vometing. Also it is from the coffie family so some nights I
>>>>> found it hard to sleep. But I would say it does a lot more then people give
>>>>> it credit for, like I said I was still able to maintaine going to class and
>>>>> focus.
>>>>> Beware of getting it from head shops ,you don't know how old it is,
>>>>> but if you want to try it out before ordering it that's a good way.
>>>>> I hope this email made since. I am sick and my vision is blurry
>>>>> . Consintraiting on something else is helping me right now.
>>>>> My bf should be home soon with something to help me.
>>>>> Lotof Love, Val
>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 7:29 PM, "Jim Hadey3" <jimhadey3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sergie and Val,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe it also goes to the D opiate receptor also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Opiate detox
>>>>>> Kratom can lessen the severity of withdrawals with causing little
>>>>>> itself. This gives it a huge advantage over modern treatment methods
>>>>>> involving such drugs as . Though it is not fully known as to how Kratom
>>>>>> eases , there are some likely reasons. tend to bind to mu and delta opioid
>>>>>> receptors in the brain. This is the reason that users experience the
>>>>>> powerful euphoric effects. The , however, is a result of the binding that
>>>>>> occurs with the mu opioid receptors. Kratom's active alkaloids tend to bind
>>>>>> only with the delta opioid receptors, and this binding action causes
>>>>>> little, if any, addiction. It is possible that a small amount of binding
>>>>>> occurs with the mu receptors, but this would be at a level to low to cause
>>>>>> moderate addiction. Some claim that the mu binding action can increase if
>>>>>> large amounts of mitragynine are consumed, but this is not clear.
>>>>>> [hide] - [top]
>>>>>> Kratom as a Opiate substitute
>>>>>> Since Kratom affects the brain much like ; Kratom has been a popular
>>>>>> opiate substitute in some parts of South-East Asia. Many opium addicts in
>>>>>> Thailand are reported to chew Kratom leaves if opium is not available. In
>>>>>> most cases, Kratom is just used as a substitute until more can be acquired,
>>>>>> though some users do combine the two drugs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Val you might want to check out this link.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=Kratom
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   - JIM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read more:
>>>>>> http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=Kratom#ixzz2hNIWXPo7
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sergie, yes they both hit the μ receptor in the brain. I don't
>>>>>>> remeber where I found this information it might have been on
>>>>>>> http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/.
>>>>>>> I am not feeling good right now so its hard for me to look right
>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>> I just remember the receptor it hits and I also read that in high
>>>>>>> doses of Kratom can cause seizures.
>>>>>>> I will testify to the fact that Kratom is amazing, I wish I could
>>>>>>> still take it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lotsof  Love, Val
>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2013 4:44 PM, "Sergey Sibirian" <sibirianfox at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey Val,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Kratom attaches to the same receptors as Ultram"
>>>>>>>> ????
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It attaches to the same receptors as most opioids, including
>>>>>>>> Heroin, hydromorphone,  morphine, oxycontin, methadone, Subaxone, etc,
>>>>>>>> etc...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's a quote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *"Kratom behaves as a μ-opioid receptor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%9C-opioid_receptor> agonist
>>>>>>>> like morphine <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphine>[4]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kratom#cite_note-ward_2011-4> and
>>>>>>>> is used in the management of chronic pain, as well as recreationally"
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> It's from wikipedia, here's the link:
>>>>>>>> *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kratom*
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> Hope it helps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sergey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:43 AM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm all out of SAOs tomorrow,  I did order some Kratom, but after
>>>>>>>>> speaking with a few people I feel it's not the best move. I had a seizure
>>>>>>>>> on Kratom and upon further investigation I learned that it hits the same
>>>>>>>>> receptors as Ultram (which I am allergic to and gives me seizures),.So
>>>>>>>>> after speaking with a few people I learned the ibogaine makes you more
>>>>>>>>> susceptible to seizures. So I surely should not be taking anything that has
>>>>>>>>> caused a seizure in my past before my treatment.  Ok sorry let me get to
>>>>>>>>> the point. Poppy Pods seem to be very expensive so I would like to know
>>>>>>>>> How long a half a pound would last?
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any good referrals to buy the pods?
>>>>>>>>> How well do they work?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone after tomorrow I may be detoxing,  so I just want
>>>>>>>>> to thank you all for your love and support if it wasn't for all of you, I
>>>>>>>>> would have just said Fuck It!  Back to Subutex and being a Stepford Wife,
>>>>>>>>> just going along with anything , not carrying about anyone but myself. Its
>>>>>>>>> been a hard journey, thanks for guiding me through the Jungle.
>>>>>>>>> Lotsof Love, Val
>>>>>>>>>
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