[Ibogaine] Kratom and Phenibut is saving me.....

Matt S. ibogamail at gmail.com
Fri Oct 11 21:55:58 CDT 2013


Here is a question for you Sergey, what do you plan to do after you take 
ibogaine?  Because that plan is what will probably determine whether or 
not you stay "sober".  You and your girlfriend should also allow for 
contingency plans in the event one of you does not succeed at staying off.

Matt

On 10/11/2013 6:53 PM, Sergey Sibirian wrote:
> Mroz,
>
> Yes, here it is.
> It's been more than two weeks that you're off Sub, if I'm not mistaken 
> (I was asking that same thing on another post, just overlook it... :))
>
> Are you weening off really fast on Kratom, or are you going more 
> slowly but steady?
> Do you have your Iboga yet, or a place ready?
>
> I wish you success in whatever way you choose.
> I'm sure interested in how people go about the details of "sobering 
> up", as I'm preparing myself
> capitally, thoroughly. Or at least I try to do my best. For next 
> spring, me and my girl.
>
> Sergey
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 7:13 PM, L.N. Mroz <leomroz24 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:leomroz24 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Yes it acts very similar to hydrocodone or oxy, just not as strong
>     and without the intense rush. I also am getting off subs for Iboga
>     and didnt think kratom would be strong enough to keep me from
>     taking my sub, but once you get down to a very low dose this stuff
>     works very well. Surprised me honestly.
>
>     Today I got some norcos so didnt take the kratom but 2mrw will be
>     back on it.
>
>     Thanks Sergey.
>
>     Eddie good to hear from you, im still in the process as well
>     getting very close though. I hope you can get things figured out I
>     wish you well buddy.
>
>
>
>     On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:09 AM, Eddie Caceres <ebrvwarr at aol.com
>     <mailto:ebrvwarr at aol.com>> wrote:
>
>         What's up Mroz it's Eddie just wanted to wish you well and to
>         hang in there buddy you've given me a lot of hope. I'm still
>         in the same situation. Peace.
>
>         Sent from my iPhone
>
>         On Oct 8, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Sergey Sibirian
>         <sibirianfox at gmail.com <mailto:sibirianfox at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>>         Hi Mroz,
>>
>>         You said it's been day five OFF SUB.
>>         Even though you're substituting with an opioid agonist,
>>         albeit much, much of a different, BETTER type,- Kratom-, I
>>         would still love to know how things are "feeling"?
>>         Sub has a particularity, SLOW RECEPTOR DISSOCIATION, which
>>         should translate in a very slow onset of withdrawals,
>>         although ultimately not necessarily less painful/suffering.
>>
>>         So how many days you're off Sub?
>>         How long have you been taking it AND what was the initial dose?
>>         How does it feel?
>>
>>         Hope these questions are not too intrusive.
>>
>>         Tnx
>>
>>         Sergey
>>
>>
>>         On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM, L.N. Mroz
>>         <leomroz24 at gmail.com <mailto:leomroz24 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             I recently stopped taking my 1-2mg of Suboxone and also
>>             started to cut my Benzo intake as well. I tried to cold
>>             turkey the sub and that did not work out well at all.
>>             Insomnia, restless legs and full body aches.
>>             I remember trying Kratom a few months ago, but since I
>>             was still on the low dose of sub, I really didn't feel it
>>             and thus give it a real chance.
>>             Its now been day 5 of no sub and the ONLY reason I have
>>             not gone back on my subs is because I have kratom....
>>
>>             This blew me away at how powerful this stuff can be, my
>>             withdrawals were reduced down to ZERO, my energy shoots
>>             up and also I feel all around a sense of well being and
>>             social.
>>             I buy my kratom from
>>             www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com?ref=4813
>>             <http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com?ref=4813> and the
>>             Phenibut from www.liftmode.com <http://www.liftmode.com>
>>             Has anybody had the same experience? Also has anyone herd
>>             of Phenibut, it is supposed to act on the GABA B receptor
>>             and GABA A receptor just like Benzo's.
>>
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