[Ibogaine] hcl sniffable?

Jim Hadey3 jimhadey3 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 9 07:24:57 CDT 2013


Hi,

Where was he a detox center or mental hospital?  Some people need a lot but
when they start to nod they have enough.  He might be on it all his life, I
hope they give him something for constipation.

Best,

  - JIM



On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Sergey Sibirian <sibirianfox at gmail.com>wrote:

> High doses of Methadone, makes me remember...
>
> You know, I once met a guy who was on 265mg of Methadone.
> (!!!)
> Two-hundred-sixty-five ml of Methadone.
> I know the number for a fact coz it took place in a therapy cure.
> And also simply from the fact that this guy looked, behaved, moved, spoke,
> responded, moved his eyeballs, had the coloration of skin, etc., etc. LIKE
> A ZOMBIE, a walking corpse out of a horror movie.
> The only thing similar I ever saw were starters nodding and puking from
> heroin introduction.
> But this poor fella was in that perpetual corpse state 24/7.
>
> A funny detail: his forehead had an always-fresh, reddish-blue bump. That,
> from hitting the table head first on a constant basis during meals.
> EVERYDAY people would wait for the "dive" during meals and burst in huge
> laughter. The therapy staff already knew why whenever they heard the crowd
> laugh from their office...
> Why did his doctor ("doctor"???) put him on 265mg???
> Nobody knew,- confidentiality and all that... But I know of NO REASON ON
> EARTH to inundate somebody's consciousness with an ocean of black poison in
> form of 265mg of Methadone....
> He was sleeping 15 hours a day, nodding for another 7, and S L O W L Y
> chewing 'n S L O W L Y moving his clouded eye-balls around for the
> remaining 2 hours
>
> That's the short "tragicomedy".
> :)
>
> Sergey
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> People die from that all the time, so sad.
>> I am lucky to be alive when I was on methadone 90mgs, I constantly drank
>> and took handfuls of xanex bars, nodding out, dropping my cigarettes and
>> burning wholes in the couch.
>> I am so lucky I didn't o.d, or burn the house down!
>> √a|
>> On Oct 8, 2013 5:22 PM, "Sergey Sibirian" <sibirianfox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-GRhEgeHyc&list=TLJN6xq918AEvso3emvBZDgxeHJ0IpSv-E
>>>
>>> Greg Giraldo, the great comedian.
>>> I just f..ckn love this guy, he's so damn smart and funny.
>>>
>>> Died in 2010. Alcohol and benzos...
>>>
>>> Highly recommended for a non-stop hour of laughing. (Pumps endorphins in
>>> your system, a nice way to get "high", :-D  )
>>>
>>> Sergey
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Jim Hadey3 <jimhadey3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Surge,
>>>>
>>>> I'm glad we're ok for I don't like arguing either.  If ya think about
>>>> it it is kind of silly arguing with someone hundreds of miles away.  Yeah,
>>>> America is in bad shape but it's worse over there.  Very few people escape
>>>> from the US and go to Cuba.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>>   - JIM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Glad your in a beautiful country and pretty free compared to the rest
>>>> of the world.
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian <sibirianfox at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey, np Jim,
>>>>>
>>>>> If I saw Sergey Sibirian,- who's me, who talks a lot and takes space,-
>>>>> talk like Donnie,
>>>>> I would freak out myself.
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I usually don't like conflicts, or being really mean, but when I saw
>>>>> that blatant fascism, I let myself loose, kind of...
>>>>>
>>>>> I lived in Israel for 3 years after being born and raised for 10 years
>>>>> in Ukraine, USSR, and BEFORE coming to Canada.
>>>>> It's a country in constant war. Alarms go off as training sessions
>>>>> once a month and every household has gas masks and a concrete bunker, both
>>>>> mandatory by law.
>>>>> When families with two or more children have to take a bus, parents go
>>>>> on separate ones.
>>>>> Why? If one explodes, at least the other survive...
>>>>> The whole country live in that state of mind.
>>>>> You leave a back-pack unwatched, a military robot is unleashed upon it
>>>>> in a matter of minutes and the whole block is cleared off...
>>>>> Night-clubs get pulverized full of young people.
>>>>> 18 year old children walk every morning,- while I was walking to
>>>>> school,- wearing camouflage uniforms holding UZI's, marching to army camp.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm mentioning all this coz xenophobia and racism have traumatized me.
>>>>> Child trauma, ya know...
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Sergey
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Jim Hadey3 <jimhadey3 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry Serg, it was Don for some reason I thought you signed it again
>>>>>> my mistake and I already talked with him and there is no use continuing on.
>>>>>>  I already asked Don to please be a little more considerate.  Val has been
>>>>>> through a lot and is trying just like anyone else and she does ask
>>>>>> intelligent questions.  Usually this forum runs smooth but there is always
>>>>>> a bump here and there.  I will be more careful and I apologize if I
>>>>>> offended anyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Sister <sistereboga at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL... see Sergey...  we do see eye to eye on many levels.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    *From:* Sergey Sibirian <sibirianfox at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To:* The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 7, 2013 10:44 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ibogaine] hcl sniffable?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WTF....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHAT THA FUCK!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> |"...but I do know that many women who were on drug and quit before
>>>>>>> rhe age of 25,27 28, are settled down, married, got children, a respectable
>>>>>>> career./job, got money int he bank, got enough to go on vacations
>>>>>>> regularly..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the GOLDEN STANDARD of life?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Settled down": shackled down by an iron prisoner ball, in form of
>>>>>>> House, Mortgage, Car, Bills, Kids, College, etc., etc...
>>>>>>> "married": Chained to the ball together
>>>>>>> "Got children": produced innocent souls into a world she rots in.
>>>>>>> "A respectable career/job": Modern slavery, they teach you how to
>>>>>>> carry the iron ball
>>>>>>> "money in the bank": barter for slavery, a trap to coerce you into
>>>>>>> dragging the iron ball always further, into the grave...
>>>>>>> "got enough to go on vacations regularly...":" WOW! That is the
>>>>>>> cherry on the top! That is the utopian dream, the orgasm, the volcano!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    or, it's two weeks in a year where you're allowed to takes the shackles
>>>>>>> off, but stick a vodka            '
>>>>>>>                              bottle up the ass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "... half intelligent, eeducated, attractive and white tend to not
>>>>>>> be on drugs or tend to get clean, without any treatment..."
>>>>>>> "...Yes I agree many Hispanic women tend to be on dope & long
>>>>>>> acting meds more then WASP/white/cacausian women,..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow!...
>>>>>>> I'll be brutally honest here: I do judge this dickwad of a redneck,
>>>>>>> who's probably seen as much life as a rat born on a sinking ship full of
>>>>>>> "white-power" god-fearing, church going, bush voting, ass fucking...
>>>>>>>  :) people? Nah...
>>>>>>> So, where was I?
>>>>>>> yea, judging... At least I feel like this Gollum deserves my
>>>>>>> attention.
>>>>>>> Unless I'm missing something???
>>>>>>> Heil Hitler!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sergey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Donny Drake <
>>>>>>> donnydrake18 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You seem very naive..Your talking about something you have no clue
>>>>>>> about as of yet, your only repeating what few other people have said, point
>>>>>>> am making is you shouldd talk when your experienced in something, you
>>>>>>> should take from experience and not by guess work or from some other
>>>>>>> peoples eperience, otherwise it seems your just looking for attention, get
>>>>>>> a grip already man...First make sure you get through the Ibogaie treatment
>>>>>>> alright, hope there are not complications, no death, no damage and no
>>>>>>> hospital trips, then hope your pshycall ok at least and hope your also at
>>>>>>> least mentally ok, then you can tell your experience, the proper American
>>>>>>> civlized way- "do first and talk later"...Some will also say your putting
>>>>>>> too faith into this and relying on this too muh, you have no clue how it
>>>>>>> will work for you, how you will feel, whether your expereience will be good
>>>>>>> or bad, or if it will expose any traumas in your chold hoob because not
>>>>>>> everybody has wonderful experience, for sme it can phyclogically  scar
>>>>>>> them, so please be object abot htisand stop making t look you know it
>>>>>>> al..You also seem to not have much knowlege eod FDA laws and how
>>>>>>> pharmacuticals work, your only going by what others have said and copying
>>>>>>> tem....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am not saying your not intelligent or anything but no mater what the
>>>>>>> ossue is you should talk from experience, dont make it look you now it all
>>>>>>> when you dont, it can show arrogance and kind of insecurity...I  dont
>>>>>>> know your age but I do know that many women who were on drug and quit
>>>>>>> before rhe age of 25,27 28, are settled down, married, got children, a
>>>>>>> respectable career./job, got money int he bank, got enough to go on
>>>>>>> vacations regularly, and I admit I never seen my women over 25 on  opiates
>>>>>>> or subs or meth..My doctor says that women who are half intelligent,
>>>>>>> eeducated, attractive and white tend to not be on drugs or tend to get
>>>>>>> clean, without any treatment, she was trying to say a lot depends on
>>>>>>> personality levels, your outlook in life, and how far educate you are. She
>>>>>>> also said women whi have high sef estrem, are , tallish thin and attractive
>>>>>>> wth hadsome eduated husbands have better sexlife and ths keeps rhem away
>>>>>>> from drugs or sadness...Yes I agree many Hispanic women tend to be on dope
>>>>>>> & long acting meds more then WASP/white/cacausian women, but I dont think
>>>>>>> its onyl down to Hispanicss being more insecure and inferior and
>>>>>>> uneducated, it also has a lot to do with choice...An American girl said
>>>>>>> your not reallly an American if you are not white or not fair light skinned
>>>>>>> blondish or white brunette, and she is very intelilgent nd wors as a
>>>>>>> Lawyer, but it doesnt mean shes right 100%, again the point am making is
>>>>>>> you are meant to research for yourself whatever ot is, dont go by othe
>>>>>>> rpeople or their views, dont jump the gun...Be prepared for any outcome, by
>>>>>>> being too unrealistic can show dopiness and naivety, these trais only make
>>>>>>> people fail in life..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It wont be legal just like that because it has anddoes cause deaths,
>>>>>>> does rule out many people becaquse o mental health issues and other
>>>>>>> illnesses, and has hallucugenic proprties, perhaps if they tok the
>>>>>>> hallugenic aspect out and was medically safe for everybody then you never
>>>>>>> know...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is also no guarantee it help the way u want, for some people
>>>>>>> it can take some withdrawals away and fro others only minor withdrawals
>>>>>>> away..You still have todeal with some depression, sleep issues andlethargy,
>>>>>>> there was someone whi stillf elt lethargic 9 months after 2 Iboga flood
>>>>>>> dosses to get off subutex, so there are many variables here...The younger
>>>>>>> you are the more advantage, Iknow its much harder on women over 24, worse
>>>>>>> if they are in their 30s, this is why u need to stay in shape, eat right,
>>>>>>> enhance ur personality levels, not cry like a baby over tny small issues
>>>>>>> but face them head on...Sub issticky and ca stay in receptors for 6
>>>>>>> monthsto some people or shall Osay feel the effects for that long, so u
>>>>>>> gotta be prepared for PAWS...For some espeacilly guys under 28 and 25 can
>>>>>>> get off quite easy..Recovery is shortned with excercise, vigerous
>>>>>>> excericise, a good decent well paid job and high self-esteem..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    *From:* Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> *To:* The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 September 2013, 0:03
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ibogaine] hcl sniffable?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this person serious?  I haven't done My treatment yet. But I have
>>>>>>> a lot of respect for this plant. Sniffing just seems like your using it
>>>>>>> like it was any other drug. Ibogaine deserves respect.  I am sorry if this
>>>>>>> comes off rude, that is not my intention. I believe addiction is a
>>>>>>> crippling disease, Ibogaine can help us if we are serious about getting and
>>>>>>> remaining clean,  if we just take it with no real feeling of wanting to
>>>>>>> change our lives, just so we can continue to have a low tolerance and get
>>>>>>> fucked up   (I am not saying your doing this) but it discredits everything
>>>>>>> Howard faught his whole life for. I would like to think that maybe one day
>>>>>>> it will be legal in the states. I know mot would agree that will never
>>>>>>> happen., but I don't believe in the word "NEVER"  If we all rise above, and
>>>>>>> take a stand maybe its not so far fetched after all.  Lotsof Love, Val
>>>>>>>
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