[Ibogaine] Krockodil

Chris Jenks chris at jenks.us
Sat Oct 5 05:32:03 CDT 2013


On Sun, 29 Sep 2013, Matt S. wrote:

> HI Val
> 
> I don't know the answers to all of those questions.  I knew about krokodil because drug use in general is a topic that is very much of
> interest to me on pretty much every level, so I read a lot about every aspect of it.  There is another thing I read about where people are
> shooting up buproprion (aka wellbutrin, aka zyban) because it has a sort of stimulant effect.  I actually did notice the same and used to
> take like 4 at a time once in a while for the buzz, although thank God I never injected it.  Apparently the filler material causes tissue to
> dissolve.  I read that a few people who had hit unlucky arteries had wound up having massive neural tissue disintegrate within hours of
> injecting it causing paralysis and then death.  Other people have had less severe although still serious tissue damage.
> 
> [...]
> Matt

   It sucks that they can't find a "filler" for buproprion tablets which is 
not neurotoxic.

> On 9/28/2013 5:09 PM, Valarie wrote:
>
>       Matt, it seems you knew about this before the media did (I read what u wrote in the archives) I was wondering why anyone would
>       take this? Is herion hard to get in Russia? I read that this drug was originally made in the U.S, is that true? Do the people
>       who are using Krockodil have any idea what this is going to do to them? Does it happen to everyone who uses Krockodil? Or are
>       people just hopeing it won't happen to them. If they stop using is there a cure for the bacteria to stop eating there skin?
>       Sorry that is a lot of questions but this drug truely baffels me
>
>       Lotsof Love, Val
>
>       On Sep 28, 2013 11:50 AM, "Valarie" <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>             Have you seen pictures of these people? It's so sad. And I thought what I have been through was painful.
>             I wish the best for these people, but what I don't understand instead of mixing all of this crap with morphine. Why
>             don't they just do the morphine?
>             Maybe it's just a small amount of morphine and codeine in it?
>             I wish I could do something for these people.
>             Lotsof Love, Val
>
>             On Sep 28, 2013 11:23 AM, "Vector Vector" <vector620022002 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>                   There have been a lot of threads about Krokodil on the list since 2010 I think, you can tell google to
>                   search the mindvox archives and it finds everything. Here's the first hit which is a thread from 2011
>                   http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2011-June/thread.html#start
>                   http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2011-June/051273.html
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
> From: Jim Hadey3 <jimhadey3 at gmail.com>
> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Krockodil
> 
> Is that the heroin they have in Russia that gives ya snake like skin?  Do you have a link?
> 
>   - JIM
> 
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> On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>       I just saw a short clip online of the effects of Krockdil. It eats your flesh! and people are still doing it!
>       Addiction is a disease Not a choice.How can anybody argue addiction is a choice after seeing this!
>       I feel horrible for these people.
>       Val
> 
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