[Ibogaine] side note on Heroin music (Sergey)

Sergey Sibirian sibirianfox at gmail.com
Sat Dec 7 09:52:25 CST 2013


Danielle,

You're one of a kind.

:D

Sergey


On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:12 PM, danielle yates
<danielle6175 at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Okay; I don't know how I missed your graphic metaphor on Soul depression
> vs. Bio neurological but I haven't blushed like that in a long time.; )
> Although you paint an exacting picture of the range of those
> experiences...as I'm a visual person I've completely lost what I was going
> to say except for feeling ACID RAGE in one second then swinging back on up
> to Eurphoric Rapture the next moment.
>
> Lol; you are too funny.  You really caught me off guard.  I would like
> some more of that please...; P
>
>
>
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> (Annette Dilucchio) 6. Re: (no subject) (Sergey Sibirian) 7. Re: how do I
> get friends validated inside MindVox? (Valarie) 8. Re: how do I get friends
> validated inside MindVox? (junkboy64) 9. Re: how do I get friends validated
> inside MindVox? (Jim Hadey3) 10. Re: how do I get friends validated inside
> MindVox? (Jeff G) 11. Re: how do I get friends validated inside MindVox?
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> Hadey3) 13. Re: Annette, Sergey, Isabelle...everyone (danielle yates)
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> Message: 1 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 20:32:21 -0800 From: Valarie  To: The
> Ibogaine List  Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how do I get friends validated
> inside MindVox? Message-ID:  Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Pat, hmmm..... That's weird. Jim can help you
> figure it out, he helped me. I know this though my weight is 150 and we
> calculated my dose should be 1.2 grams of HCL, and my provider actually
> gave me more based on my drug history and the fact that I was handling the
> ibogaine really well. Hi Jim, thanks for the reply, actually I have tried
> ibogaine before twice. But I had the session done at a clinic in cancun. So
> I'm comfortable boing it at home now. I only purchased 1 gram of ibogaine
> hcl. I'm wondering if that will be enuf. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5,
> 2013, at 1:30 PM, Jim Hadey3  wrote: Hi Pat In all due respect you should
> learn more before taking it. In answer to your question you compute you
> dose like this: 180 weight ----- == 82 (rounded) KG 2.2 Amount you want to
> take - you convert grams to milligrams by multiplying by 1000. Example 1
> gram weighs 1000 mg 2 grams weighs 2000 mg 1.5 grams weight 1500 mg So take
> you weight into grams and divide into the amount of HCL you think you want
> to take. We will use 2 grams for an example 2000 MG Which is two grams
> ------ 82 divide by weight in KG and you get 24.69 mg/kg - way too high You
> are looking for an number between 15 and 20. Now lets use 1.5 gm which is
> 1500 mg 1500 ------ = 18.29 so round to 18.3 gm 82 For me 18.3 grams did
> the trick, done cracked ma head, but everything is OK now. I would not want
> to go any higher it was the perfect dose for me. Being an addict we all
> want more or the highest dose we can get. It depends on what your trying to
> kick, if you trying to kick Sub or Methadone you will most likely fail,
> most who have tried that failed. They tried hard too but after feeling so
> weak and bad you just can't take it anymore. Also, don't think your now
> clean and can use now and then for that will not work, ask anybody. Again
> you should learn a bit more about the drug for it is not like any other
> drug you have ever taken. This forum is a good place to get info. I thinks
> a few yashoulds may be helpful so ya should have an experienced sitter, ya
> should keep the puke bucket with you at all times, ya should not expect to
> take it Friday and be at work Monday, ya should not be taking any SSRIs or
> NIs and a bunch more. I wish you the best of luck and I am sure the others
> on the forum do too. Ask any questions before taking the Exp. Best, - JIM
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Pat Gallina  wrote: > Hi friends, does
> anyone know what kind of dosage if I take ibogaine > hydrochloride I don't
> know the amount of dosage I should take I am make 35 > years old 180 pounds
> does anybody know what kind of dosage I should take in > milligrams??
> Thanks friends > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:46 PM,
> Valarie  wrote: > > Jeff, Don't scare me! Lol. > I still never found the
> email. Although I did see it with the link Patrick > provided, so it must
> be my email account. > On Dec 4, 2013 6:43 PM, "Jeff G"  wrote: > >> I
> think it's an illuminati conspiracy Val.... >> Watch your back. >> Jeff >>
> On Dec 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie"  wrote: >> >>> Thanks Patrick, That
> must be what it is, because I still don't see it on >>> my end. >>> How
> embarrassing I'm glad I didn't keep posting until I saw it. >>> <3 Val >>>
> On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM, "Patrick K. Kroupa"  wrote: >>> >>>> You've
> actually posted it twice now. >>>> >>>> To see what everybody else sees,
> look at the archives, which are: >>>>
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ >>>> >>>> For December, it'd
> be: >>>> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html>>>> >>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point. >>>> >>>>
> There is occasional lag because the list is very large, new accounts >>>>
> are added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are automagically
> >>>> removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000 subscribers
> for >>>> half a decade or so. >>>> >>>> Lag means: it may take 3 minutes
> from the time you hit send, until the >>>> time everybody receives your
> message, but there is never a time where it'll >>>> take hours or days,
> unless there are technical problems, which can happen, >>>> but it tends to
> happen for everybody, not just one person, and is at our >>>> end. There
> haven't been any issues for a few months since we finished >>>>
> transitioning the list to new servers. >>>> >>>> Not seeing your own posts
> can relate to either your own list settings >>>> -- you've told the mailing
> list not to send duplicate copies, and mail you >>>> back your own posts
> which are already sitting in your Sent mail box -- or >>>> how you've
> configured your email client (look in your spam folder, if >>>> they're in
> there, check them and mark them as Not Spam). >>>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at
> 11:15 AM, Valarie  wrote: >>>> >>>> > A new thread from me? >>>> > Weird,
> I don't see it anywhere, I see Silver's post asking Patrick >>>> how to
> post that's it. >>>> > Thank you for letting me know. >>>> > <3 Val >>>> >
> >>>> > On Dec 4, 2013 8:13 AM, "junkboy64"  wrote: >>>> > It posted. I
> saw it >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first
> nationwide 4G network. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -------- Original
> message -------- >>>> > From: Valarie  >>>> > Date: 12/04/2013 8:11 AM
> (GMT-07:00) >>>> > To: The Ibogaine List  >>>> > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine]
> how do I get friends validated inside MindVox? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I
> created a new post on Monday night and it still hasn't posted. >>>> > So I
> re-sent it last night and it still has not posted. >>>> > I double checked
> my email, it shows I sent it right. >>>> > Is this happening to anyone
> else? >>>> > <3 Val >>>> > >>>> > On Dec 3, 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector" >>>> wrote: >>>> > Ok duh I missed invite friends the first 15 times it got
> mentioned >>>> ;-) Thanks, that clarified a lot. >>>> >>>> >>>> -=[)
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> do I get friends validated inside MindVox? Message-ID:  Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Pat, I found something called the Ibogaine
> Dossier a link from the Dora Weiner Foundation http://www.ibogaine.org/.
> Although I looked for quite a while and could not find the part I read
> before that shows it based on body weight. I am sure someone on here can
> tell you. If it were me I would wait till you get your correct dosage
> before you took the Ibogaine , I would hate for it not to work because you
> took to little, and waste your ibogaine. There are plenty of people here
> who can help you figure out your dose. Lotsof Love, Val Hi Pat, hmmm.....
> That's weird. Jim can help you figure it out, he helped me. I know this
> though my weight is 150 and we calculated my dose should be 1.2 grams of
> HCL, and my provider actually gave me more based on my drug history and the
> fact that I was handling the ibogaine really well. Hi Jim, thanks for the
> reply, actually I have tried ibogaine before twice. But I had the session
> done at a clinic in cancun. So I'm comfortable boing it at home now. I only
> purchased 1 gram of ibogaine hcl. I'm wondering if that will be enuf. Sent
> from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Jim Hadey3  wrote: Hi Pat In
> all due respect you should learn more before taking it. In answer to your
> question you compute you dose like this: 180 weight ----- == 82 (rounded)
> KG 2.2 Amount you want to take - you convert grams to milligrams by
> multiplying by 1000. Example 1 gram weighs 1000 mg 2 grams weighs 2000 mg
> 1.5 grams weight 1500 mg So take you weight into grams and divide into the
> amount of HCL you think you want to take. We will use 2 grams for an
> example 2000 MG Which is two grams ------ 82 divide by weight in KG and you
> get 24.69 mg/kg - way too high You are looking for an number between 15 and
> 20. Now lets use 1.5 gm which is 1500 mg 1500 ------ = 18.29 so round to
> 18.3 gm 82 For me 18.3 grams did the trick, done cracked ma head, but
> everything is OK now. I would not want to go any higher it was the perfect
> dose for me. Being an addict we all want more or the highest dose we can
> get. It depends on what your trying to kick, if you trying to kick Sub or
> Methadone you will most likely fail, most who have tried that failed. They
> tried hard too but after feeling so weak and bad you just can't take it
> anymore. Also, don't think your now clean and can use now and then for that
> will not work, ask anybody. Again you should learn a bit more about the
> drug for it is not like any other drug you have ever taken. This forum is a
> good place to get info. I thinks a few yashoulds may be helpful so ya
> should have an experienced sitter, ya should keep the puke bucket with you
> at all times, ya should not expect to take it Friday and be at work Monday,
> ya should not be taking any SSRIs or NIs and a bunch more. I wish you the
> best of luck and I am sure the others on the forum do too. Ask any
> questions before taking the Exp. Best, - JIM On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:36
> AM, Pat Gallina  wrote: > Hi friends, does anyone know what kind of
> dosage if I take ibogaine > hydrochloride I don't know the amount of dosage
> I should take I am make 35 > years old 180 pounds does anybody know what
> kind of dosage I should take in > milligrams?? Thanks friends > > Sent from
> my iPhone > > On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Valarie  wrote: > > Jeff, Don't
> scare me! Lol. > I still never found the email. Although I did see it with
> the link Patrick > provided, so it must be my email account. > On Dec 4,
> 2013 6:43 PM, "Jeff G"  wrote: > >> I think it's an illuminati conspiracy
> Val.... >> Watch your back. >> Jeff >> On Dec 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie" wrote: >> >>> Thanks Patrick, That must be what it is, because I still
> don't see it on >>> my end. >>> How embarrassing I'm glad I didn't keep
> posting until I saw it. >>> <3 Val >>> On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM, "Patrick K.
> Kroupa"  wrote: >>> >>>> You've actually posted it twice now. >>>> >>>>
> To see what everybody else sees, look at the archives, which are: >>>>
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ >>>> >>>> For December, it'd
> be: >>>> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html>>>> >>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point. >>>> >>>>
> There is occasional lag because the list is very large, new accounts >>>>
> are added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are automagically
> >>>> removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000 subscribers
> for >>>> half a decade or so. >>>> >>>> Lag means: it may take 3 minutes
> from the time you hit send, until the >>>> time everybody receives your
> message, but there is never a time where it'll >>>> take hours or days,
> unless there are technical problems, which can happen, >>>> but it tends to
> happen for everybody, not just one person, and is at our >>>> end. There
> haven't been any issues for a few months since we finished >>>>
> transitioning the list to new servers. >>>> >>>> Not seeing your own posts
> can relate to either your own list settings >>>> -- you've told the mailing
> list not to send duplicate copies, and mail you >>>> back your own posts
> which are already sitting in your Sent mail box -- or >>>> how you've
> configured your email client (look in your spam folder, if >>>> they're in
> there, check them and mark them as Not Spam). >>>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at
> 11:15 AM, Valarie  wrote: >>>> >>>> > A new thread from me? >>>> > Weird,
> I don't see it anywhere, I see Silver's post asking Patrick >>>> how to
> post that's it. >>>> > Thank you for letting me know. >>>> > <3 Val >>>> >
> >>>> > On Dec 4, 2013 8:13 AM, "junkboy64"  wrote: >>>> > It posted. I
> saw it >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first
> nationwide 4G network. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -------- Original
> message -------- >>>> > From: Valarie  >>>> > Date: 12/04/2013 8:11 AM
> (GMT-07:00) >>>> > To: The Ibogaine List  >>>> > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine]
> how do I get friends validated inside MindVox? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I
> created a new post on Monday night and it still hasn't posted. >>>> > So I
> re-sent it last night and it still has not posted. >>>> > I double checked
> my email, it shows I sent it right. >>>> > Is this happening to anyone
> else? >>>> > <3 Val >>>> > >>>> > On Dec 3, 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector" >>>> wrote: >>>> > Ok duh I missed invite friends the first 15 times it got
> mentioned >>>> ;-) Thanks, that clarified a lot. >>>> >>>> >>>> -=[)
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> -0800 From: Valarie  To: The Ibogaine List  Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how
> do I get friends validated inside MindVox? Message-ID:  Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I hate when I post something that has
> already been answered. I didn't see what Jim had already wrote. Jim knows
> what he is talking about. Like I said he helped me figure out my dosage and
> my provider fully agreed with the dosage, because I was being monitored my
> provider gave me a little more. <3 Val On Dec 5, 2013 9:04 PM, "Valarie" wrote: > Pat, I found something called the Ibogaine Dossier a link from the
> Dora > Weiner Foundation http://www.ibogaine.org/. Although I looked for
> quite > a while and could not find the part I read before that shows it
> based on > body weight. I am sure someone on here can tell you. > If it
> were me I would wait till you get your correct dosage before you > took the
> Ibogaine , I would hate for it not to work because you took to > little,
> and waste your ibogaine. > There are plenty of people here who can help you
> figure out your dose. > > Lotsof Love, Val > > Hi Pat, hmmm..... That's
> weird. > Jim can help you figure it out, he helped me. I know this though
> my weight > is 150 and we calculated my dose should be 1.2 grams of HCL,
> and my > provider actually gave me more based on my drug history and the
> fact that I > was handling the ibogaine really well. > Hi Jim, thanks for
> the reply, actually I have tried ibogaine before twice. > But I had the
> session done at a clinic in cancun. So I'm comfortable boing > it at home
> now. I only purchased 1 gram of ibogaine hcl. I'm wondering if > that will
> be enuf. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Jim Hadey3 wrote: > > > Hi Pat > > In all due respect you should learn more before
> taking it. In answer to > your question you compute you dose like this: > >
> 180 weight > ----- == 82 (rounded) KG > 2.2 > > Amount you want to take -
> you convert > grams to milligrams by multiplying by > 1000. > > Example 1
> gram weighs 1000 mg > 2 grams weighs 2000 mg > 1.5 grams weight 1500 mg > >
> So take you weight into grams and > divide into the amount of HCL you >
> think you want to take. > > We will use 2 grams for an example > > 2000 MG
> Which is two grams > ------ > 82 divide by weight in KG > > and you get
> 24.69 mg/kg - way too high > > You are looking for an number between > 15
> and 20. > > Now lets use 1.5 gm which is 1500 mg > > 1500 > ------ = 18.29
> so round to 18.3 gm > 82 > > For me 18.3 grams did the trick, done cracked
> ma head, but everything is > OK now. > I would not want to go any higher it
> was the perfect dose for me. Being > an addict we all want more or the
> highest dose we can get. It depends on > what your trying to kick, if you
> trying to kick Sub or Methadone you will > most likely fail, most who have
> tried that failed. They tried hard too but > after feeling so weak and bad
> you just can't take it anymore. Also, don't > think your now clean and can
> use now and then for that will not work, ask > anybody. > > Again you
> should learn a bit more about the drug for it is not like any > other drug
> you have ever taken. This forum is a good place to get info. I > thinks a
> few yashoulds may be helpful so ya should have an experienced > sitter, ya
> should keep the puke bucket with you at all times, ya should not > expect
> to take it Friday and be at work Monday, ya should not be taking any >
> SSRIs or NIs and a bunch more. > > I wish you the best of luck and I am
> sure the others on the forum do too. > Ask any questions before taking the
> Exp. > > Best, > > - JIM > > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Pat Gallina wrote:
> > >> Hi friends, does anyone know what kind of dosage if I take ibogaine >>
> hydrochloride I don't know the amount of dosage I should take I am make 35
> >> years old 180 pounds does anybody know what kind of dosage I should take
> in >> milligrams?? Thanks friends >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 4,
> 2013, at 9:46 PM, Valarie  wrote: >> >> Jeff, Don't scare me! Lol. >> I
> still never found the email. Although I did see it with the link >> Patrick
> provided, so it must be my email account. >> On Dec 4, 2013 6:43 PM, "Jeff
> G"  wrote: >> >>> I think it's an illuminati conspiracy Val.... >>> Watch
> your back. >>> Jeff >>> On Dec 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie"  wrote: >>>
> >>>> Thanks Patrick, That must be what it is, because I still don't see it
> >>>> on my end. >>>> How embarrassing I'm glad I didn't keep posting until
> I saw it. >>>> <3 Val >>>> On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM, "Patrick K. Kroupa" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You've actually posted it twice now. >>>>> >>>>> To
> see what everybody else sees, look at the archives, which are: >>>>>
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ >>>>> >>>>> For December, it'd
> be: >>>>>
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html >>>>>
> >>>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point. >>>>> >>>>>
> There is occasional lag because the list is very large, new accounts >>>>>
> are added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are automagically
> >>>>> removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000 subscribers
> for >>>>> half a decade or so. >>>>> >>>>> Lag means: it may take 3 minutes
> from the time you hit send, until the >>>>> time everybody receives your
> message, but there is never a time where it'll >>>>> take hours or days,
> unless there are technical problems, which can happen, >>>>> but it tends
> to happen for everybody, not just one person, and is at our >>>>> end.
> There haven't been any issues for a few months since we finished >>>>>
> transitioning the list to new servers. >>>>> >>>>> Not seeing your own
> posts can relate to either your own list settings >>>>> -- you've told the
> mailing list not to send duplicate copies, and mail you >>>>> back your own
> posts which are already sitting in your Sent mail box -- or >>>>> how
> you've configured your email client (look in your spam folder, if >>>>>
> they're in there, check them and mark them as Not Spam). >>>>> >>>>> On Dec
> 4, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Valarie  wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > A new thread from me?
> >>>>> > Weird, I don't see it anywhere, I see Silver's post asking Patrick
> >>>>> how to post that's it. >>>>> > Thank you for letting me know. >>>>> >
> <3 Val >>>>> > >>>>> > On Dec 4, 2013 8:13 AM, "junkboy64"  wrote: >>>>>
> > It posted. I saw it >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > From my Android phone on
> T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >
> -------- Original message -------- >>>>> > From: Valarie  >>>>> > Date:
> 12/04/2013 8:11 AM (GMT-07:00) >>>>> > To: The Ibogaine List  >>>>> >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how do I get friends validated inside >>>>>
> MindVox? >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > I created a new post on Monday night and
> it still hasn't posted. >>>>> > So I re-sent it last night and it still has
> not posted. >>>>> > I double checked my email, it shows I sent it right.
> >>>>> > Is this happening to anyone else? >>>>> > <3 Val >>>>> > >>>>> > On
> Dec 3, 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector"  >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > Ok duh I
> missed invite friends the first 15 times it got mentioned >>>>> ;-) Thanks,
> that clarified a lot. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine |
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> -0500 From: Pat Gallina  To: The Ibogaine List  Subject: Re: [Ibogaine]
> how do I get friends validated inside MindVox? Message-ID: <
> 5336332A-4DA6-4471-BF84-3AE445B419E2 at icloud.com> Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jim, also what is ssri or nis??? New to all
> thoes terms Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:32 PM, Valarie wrote: > > Hi Pat, hmmm..... That's weird. > Jim can help you figure it
> out, he helped me. I know this though my weight is 150 and we calculated my
> dose should be 1.2 grams of HCL, and my provider actually gave me more
> based on my drug history and the fact that I was handling the ibogaine
> really well. > > Hi Jim, thanks for the reply, actually I have tried
> ibogaine before twice. But I had the session done at a clinic in cancun. So
> I'm comfortable boing it at home now. I only purchased 1 gram of ibogaine
> hcl. I'm wondering if that will be enuf. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On
> Dec 5, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Jim Hadey3  wrote: >> >> >> Hi Pat >> >> In all
> due respect you should learn more before taking it. In answer to your
> question you compute you dose like this: >> >> 180 weight >> ----- == 82
> (rounded) KG >> 2.2 >> >> Amount you want to take - you convert >> grams to
> milligrams by multiplying by >> 1000. >> >> Example 1 gram weighs 1000 mg
> >> 2 grams weighs 2000 mg >> 1.5 grams weight 1500 mg >> >> So take you
> weight into grams and >> divide into the amount of HCL you >> think you
> want to take. >> >> We will use 2 grams for an example >> >> 2000 MG Which
> is two grams >> ------ >> 82 divide by weight in KG >> >> and you get 24.69
> mg/kg - way too high >> >> You are looking for an number between >> 15 and
> 20. >> >> Now lets use 1.5 gm which is 1500 mg >> >> 1500 >> ------ = 18.29
> so round to 18.3 gm >> 82 >> >> For me 18.3 grams did the trick, done
> cracked ma head, but everything is OK now. >> I would not want to go any
> higher it was the perfect dose for me. Being an addict we all want more or
> the highest dose we can get. It depends on what your trying to kick, if you
> trying to kick Sub or Methadone you will most likely fail, most who have
> tried that failed. They tried hard too but after feeling so weak and bad
> you just can't take it anymore. Also, don't think your now clean and can
> use now and then for that will not work, ask anybody. >> >> Again you
> should learn a bit more about the drug for it is not like any other drug
> you have ever taken. This forum is a good place to get info. I thinks a few
> yashoulds may be helpful so ya should have an experienced sitter, ya should
> keep the puke bucket with you at all times, ya should not expect to take it
> Friday and be at work Monday, ya should not be taking any SSRIs or NIs and
> a bunch more. >> >> I wish you the best of luck and I am sure the others on
> the forum do too. Ask any questions before taking the Exp. >> >> Best, >>
> >> - JIM >> >> >>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Pat Gallina  wrote:
> >>> Hi friends, does anyone know what kind of dosage if I take ibogaine
> hydrochloride I don't know the amount of dosage I should take I am make 35
> years old 180 pounds does anybody know what kind of dosage I should take in
> milligrams?? Thanks friends >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Dec 4,
> 2013, at 9:46 PM, Valarie  wrote: >>>> >>>> Jeff, Don't scare me! Lol.
> >>>> I still never found the email. Although I did see it with the link
> Patrick provided, so it must be my email account. >>>>> On Dec 4, 2013 6:43
> PM, "Jeff G"  wrote: >>>>> I think it's an illuminati conspiracy Val....
> >>>>> Watch your back. >>>>> Jeff >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013 5:58 PM,
> "Valarie"  wrote: >>>>>> Thanks Patrick, That must be what it is, because
> I still don't see it on my end. >>>>>> How embarrassing I'm glad I didn't
> keep posting until I saw it. >>>>>> <3 Val >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013
> 9:28 AM, "Patrick K. Kroupa"  wrote: >>>>>>> You've actually posted it
> twice now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To see what everybody else sees, look at the
> archives, which are: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For December, it'd be:
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point. >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There is occasional lag because the list is very large, new
> accounts are added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are
> automagically removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000
> subscribers for half a decade or so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lag means: it may take
> 3 minutes from the time you hit send, until the time everybody receives
> your message, but there is never a time where it'll take hours or days,
> unless there are technical problems, which can happen, but it tends to
> happen for everybody, not just one person, and is at our end. There haven't
> been any issues for a few months since we finished transitioning the list
> to new servers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not seeing your own posts can relate to
> either your own list settings -- you've told the mailing list not to send
> duplicate copies, and mail you back your own posts which are already
> sitting in your Sent mail box -- or how you've configured your email client
> (look in your spam folder, if they're in there, check them and mark them as
> Not Spam). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Valarie  wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > A new thread from me? >>>>>>> > Weird, I don't see it
> anywhere, I see Silver's post asking Patrick how to post that's it. >>>>>>>
> > Thank you for letting me know. >>>>>>> > <3 Val >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On
> Dec 4, 2013 8:13 AM, "junkboy64"  wrote: >>>>>>> > It posted. I saw it
> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first
> nationwide 4G network. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > --------
> Original message -------- >>>>>>> > From: Valarie  >>>>>>> > Date:
> 12/04/2013 8:11 AM (GMT-07:00) >>>>>>> > To: The Ibogaine List  >>>>>>> >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how do I get friends validated inside MindVox?
> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I created a new post on Monday night and it
> still hasn't posted. >>>>>>> > So I re-sent it last night and it still has
> not posted. >>>>>>> > I double checked my email, it shows I sent it right.
> >>>>>>> > Is this happening to anyone else? >>>>>>> > <3 Val >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > On Dec 3, 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector"  wrote: >>>>>>> > Ok
> duh I missed invite friends the first 15 times it got mentioned ;-) Thanks,
> that clarified a lot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -=[) ::::::: MindVox |
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> -0800 From: Annette Dilucchio  To: The Ibogaine List  Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] how do I get friends validated inside MindVox? Message-ID: <
> 9AC9AE9A-7F68-4803-9876-4CD38B1C2942 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="us-ascii" Hi pat. I am 105 lbs. and I ingested 1 mg of hcl and 1
> mg of TA and it was not enough. I should add that I did not FEEL anything
> for at least an hour after taking all of the medication which was spaced
> out over several hours. What happened to me and what happens quite often is
> that the "flood dose" makes you puke up the medicine so you are kind of
> screwed then. Even knowing this was a possibility I followed the
> suggestions and did not eat the day of and kept a bucket beside me (I was
> in Mexico of course). I was anticipating fishing the meds out of the bucket
> if necessary and re-ingesting them if I threw up but when the time came it
> was not going to happen. I did not throw up for 5-6 hours after starting
> the dosing AND I took all the pills with some green colored Gatorade (DO
> NOT DO THIS). By the time I threw up, the ibogaine had completely dissolved
> into the Gatorade and I threw up every bit of fluid in my body violently!!
> So unless I wanted to drink it again, no bueno. The tracers I had started
> to see 45 minutes into the EXP promptly ended within minutes after I puked.
> Herein lies the benefit of having a sitter as they will (hopefully) have
> enough meds to dose you, vomit or not. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 5, 2013,
> at 2:58 PM, Pat Gallina  wrote: > > Hi Jim, thanks for the reply,
> actually I have tried ibogaine before twice. But I had the session done at
> a clinic in cancun. So I'm comfortable boing it at home now. I only
> purchased 1 gram of ibogaine hcl. I'm wondering if that will be enuf. > >
> Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Jim Hadey3  wrote:
> >> >> >> Hi Pat >> >> In all due respect you should learn more before
> taking it. In answer to your question you compute you dose like this: >> >>
> 180 weight >> ----- == 82 (rounded) KG >> 2.2 >> >> Amount you want to take
> - you convert >> grams to milligrams by multiplying by >> 1000. >> >>
> Example 1 gram weighs 1000 mg >> 2 grams weighs 2000 mg >> 1.5 grams weight
> 1500 mg >> >> So take you weight into grams and >> divide into the amount
> of HCL you >> think you want to take. >> >> We will use 2 grams for an
> example >> >> 2000 MG Which is two grams >> ------ >> 82 divide by weight
> in KG >> >> and you get 24.69 mg/kg - way too high >> >> You are looking
> for an number between >> 15 and 20. >> >> Now lets use 1.5 gm which is 1500
> mg >> >> 1500 >> ------ = 18.29 so round to 18.3 gm >> 82 >> >> For me 18.3
> grams did the trick, done cracked ma head, but everything is OK now. >> I
> would not want to go any higher it was the perfect dose for me. Being an
> addict we all want more or the highest dose we can get. It depends on what
> your trying to kick, if you trying to kick Sub or Methadone you will most
> likely fail, most who have tried that failed. They tried hard too but after
> feeling so weak and bad you just can't take it anymore. Also, don't think
> your now clean and can use now and then for that will not work, ask
> anybody. >> >> Again you should learn a bit more about the drug for it is
> not like any other drug you have ever taken. This forum is a good place to
> get info. I thinks a few yashoulds may be helpful so ya should have an
> experienced sitter, ya should keep the puke bucket with you at all times,
> ya should not expect to take it Friday and be at work Monday, ya should not
> be taking any SSRIs or NIs and a bunch more. >> >> I wish you the best of
> luck and I am sure the others on the forum do too. Ask any questions before
> taking the Exp. >> >> Best, >> >> - JIM >> >> >>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at
> 12:36 AM, Pat Gallina  wrote: >>> Hi friends, does anyone know what kind
> of dosage if I take ibogaine hydrochloride I don't know the amount of
> dosage I should take I am make 35 years old 180 pounds does anybody know
> what kind of dosage I should take in milligrams?? Thanks friends >>> >>>
> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Valarie  wrote:
> >>>> >>>> Jeff, Don't scare me! Lol. >>>> I still never found the email.
> Although I did see it with the link Patrick provided, so it must be my
> email account. >>>>> On Dec 4, 2013 6:43 PM, "Jeff G"  wrote: >>>>> I
> think it's an illuminati conspiracy Val.... >>>>> Watch your back. >>>>>
> Jeff >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie"  wrote: >>>>>> Thanks
> Patrick, That must be what it is, because I still don't see it on my end.
> >>>>>> How embarrassing I'm glad I didn't keep posting until I saw it.
> >>>>>> <3 Val >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM, "Patrick K. Kroupa" wrote: >>>>>>> You've actually posted it twice now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To see
> what everybody else sees, look at the archives, which are:
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For December,
> it'd be: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html>>>>>>> >>>>>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point.
> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is occasional lag because the list is very large, new
> accounts are added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are
> automagically removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000
> subscribers for half a decade or so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lag means: it may take
> 3 minutes from the time you hit send, until the time everybody receives
> your message, but there is never a time where it'll take hours or days,
> unless there are technical problems, which can happen, but it tends to
> happen for everybody, not just one person, and is at our end. There haven't
> been any issues for a few months since we finished transitioning the list
> to new servers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not seeing your own posts can relate to
> either your own list settings -- you've told the mailing list not to send
> duplicate copies, and mail you back your own posts which are already
> sitting in your Sent mail box -- or how you've configured your email client
> (look in your spam folder, if they're in there, check them and mark them as
> Not Spam). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Valarie  wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > A new thread from me? >>>>>>> > Weird, I don't see it
> anywhere, I see Silver's post asking Patrick how to post that's it. >>>>>>>
> > Thank you for letting me know. >>>>>>> > <3 Val >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On
> Dec 4, 2013 8:13 AM, "junkboy64"  wrote: >>>>>>> > It posted. I saw it
> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first
> nationwide 4G network. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > --------
> Original message -------- >>>>>>> > From: Valarie  >>>>>>> > Date:
> 12/04/2013 8:11 AM (GMT-07:00) >>>>>>> > To: The Ibogaine List  >>>>>>> >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how do I get friends validated inside MindVox?
> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I created a new post on Monday night and it
> still hasn't posted. >>>>>>> > So I re-sent it last night and it still has
> not posted. >>>>>>> > I double checked my email, it shows I sent it right.
> >>>>>>> > Is this happening to anyone else? >>>>>>> > <3 Val >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > On Dec 3, 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector"  wrote: >>>>>>> > Ok
> duh I missed invite friends the first 15 times it got mentioned ;-) Thanks,
> that clarified a lot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -=[) ::::::: MindVox |
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> -0500 From: Sergey Sibirian  To: The Ibogaine List  Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] (no subject) Message-ID:  Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" Val, ME TOO I'm really eager to find a proglumide source!
> It comes back at EVERY serious topic about opioid tolerance reversal. I'll
> keep digging. If you find anything, lmi. PEOPLE, A SOURCE FOR PROGLUMIDE
> NEEDED DESPERATELY. SOS! Sergey On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Valarie wrote: > Sergie, and All . Did you ever find a reliable source for
> Proglumide? > I just would like to hear someone's experience with it. >
> From what I read it seems it would work. > I DO share my experience with
> Ibogaine in my outpatient class and in NA. > I have never been hushed. I
> actually get people coming up to me giving me > their phone number and want
> to hear more about Ibogaine, and my experience. > I just say if you are
> afraid to detox or trapped on maintenance drug, > there is a way out called
> Ibogaine, and that's how I got clean, and going > to my about drug program
> and NA Is how I am STAYING clean. > Then I will refer people to this list.
> > I'm actually going to meet this woman's daughter tonight at an NA
> meeting, > this young lady is trapped on Methadone maintenance and like me
> can not get > any SAOs, so although I agree with what most people said
> about Kratom once > you are clean, for those who are NOT clean Kratom seems
> to be the SAFEST > way to go. > Eric Taub is the one who told me about
> Kratom, he said you CAN go straight > from Kratom to Ibogaine, which is
> also documented here > http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=86136, > I respect other providers who say to go to a SAO for a few days after >
> Kratom and before their treatment. > I am NO expert, I just share what I
> have learned. > As I shared before, > After I had a seizure again and did
> not know wwhy I decided to stop Kratom > and could no longer get any SAOs,
> > I went to heroin for the first time, good for me it s only for 3 days but
> > I was smoking so much. > Then thanks to many here and Junkboy helping me
> with the Poppy Pods > (luckily I could afford them) I didn't have to
> continue with the Heroin, > because that could have spun out of control
> real fast. > I believe people should know that there is a MUCH SAFER way. >
> I didn't really like Heroin and didn't feel it as much as I felt pills and
> > I could have seen myself going down the needle road real quick. > I am so
> thankful that I found other options to get those 3 months off Sub. > And
> like what was told to me on this list I keep very busy now. > > Lotsof
> Love, Val > On Dec 5, 2013 3:19 PM, "Valarie"  wrote: > >> Hi Sergie, >>
> Detox or Die. That was the documentary on PBS right? >> I think I have seen
> every Ibogaine documentary their is. >> But if you, or anyone knows about
> any new ones please let me know. >> Even though I have already done iboga,
> I love those documentaries! >> <3 Val >> On Dec 5, 2013 3:07 PM, "Sergey
> Sibirian"  wrote: >> >>> Val, >>> >>> to be honest Val, I'm not sure
> which video Jim is referring to? >>> >>> I post a lot of stuff, much of
> which is just annoying? >>> >>> :D >>> >>> (it might be the "Detox or Die"
> video) >>> >>> Sergey >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Valarie wrote: >>> >>>> Jim you do your homework! . >>>> Sergie I must have missed
> the video Jim is referring to, can you repost >>>> it or just email it to
> me? Thank you. >>>> <3 Val >>>> On Dec 1, 2013 12:39 AM, "Randy Faulconer" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jim is the man >>>>> >>>>> Randy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Sergey Sibirian < >>>>>
> sibirianfox at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jim! >>>>>> >>>>>> I just put
> a bright star next to this particular thread. >>>>>> SO i can easily spot
> itpo >>>>>> Honestly though, what you did, the research you carried out is
> simply >>>>>> priceless. >>>>>> Or there is a price: HOURS OF MY TIME.
> >>>>>> >>>>>> Plus, to be able to spot the right/mot relevant info is
> nothing short >>>>>> of serious skill >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks agsin. >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sergey >>>>>> >>>>>> So I'm early grateful. >>>>>> I'll go through
> every link >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 wrote:
> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Serge, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Google reverse opiate
> tolerance this is the first page. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (opioids) Is it possible
> to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc...
> >>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors
> >>>>>>> I often hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance
> to >>>>>>> opioids is time without taking the drug, or that you can only
> slow the >>>>>>> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts
> May 11, 2012 >>>>>>> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ
> 25 posts Aug >>>>>>> 18, 2010 >>>>>>> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a
> collection of the ... 25 posts May >>>>>>> 5, 2010 >>>>>>>
> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10, 2007 >>>>>>> More
> results from www.bluelight.ru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tryptophan loading may
> reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics in ... >>>>>>>
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> by Y Hosobuchi -
> ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles >>>>>>> Five patients on chronic
> opiate medication to treat low-back and leg >>>>>>> pain were determined to
> have developed opiate tolerance on the basis of >>>>>>> their failure to
> ... >>>>>>> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity
> ... >>>>>>> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids?
> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author >>>>>>>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... >>>>>>>
> and can prevent or even reverse the development of tolerance to opioid
> >>>>>>> ...Tolerance - Does tolerance never fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6,
> 2012 >>>>>>> Combinations - Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan
> 11, >>>>>>> 2011 >>>>>>> Addiction - Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts
> Apr 8, 2010 >>>>>>> Effects - Possible reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28,
> 2010 >>>>>>> More results from www.drugs-forum.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain - HealingWell.com Forum >>>>>>>
> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases & Conditions ? Chronic Pain? >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4 authors >>>>>>> I have been
> using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and oxycodone) for 6 >>>>>>> years, ...
> Though there are drugs to permanently reverse tolerance for ... >>>>>>>
> Changing concepts of opioid tolerance >>>>>>>
> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
> What these classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop >>>>>>>
> to opioid ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and rapid
> >>>>>>> reversal of tolerance. >>>>>>> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse
> tolerance - Social Anxiety Forum >>>>>>> www.socialanxietysupport.com ?
> ... ? Recovery ? Medication? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nov 11, 2010 - 14
> posts - ?8 authors >>>>>>> According to this research video, they found
> that THC can synergize >>>>>>> with Opioids and decrease and even reverse
> opioid tolerance. I got my ... >>>>>>> Does anything other than TIME lower
> tolerance? [Archive ... >>>>>>>
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Feb 8, 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors >>>>>>> The
> drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough "doubling" of opiate effects >>>>>>> ...
> effectiveness AND the prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use
> >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> [PDF] >>>>>>> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by
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> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related
> articles >>>>>>> The NMDA antagonists were found to inhibit the development
> but not >>>>>>> the expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able to
> prevent but not >>>>>>> reverse tolerance. >>>>>>> This can prevent or even
> reverse opiate tolerance. It's also an >>>>>>> opiate ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc...
> >>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse
> opiate tolerance. >>>>>>> It's also an opiate potentiator and is not a
> controlled substance in the >>>>>>> U.S. but its no longer ... >>>>>>>
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> ScienceDirect >>>>>>>
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles >>>>>>>
> Mar 27, 2003 - Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat >>>>>>>
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> -0800 From: Valarie  To: The Ibogaine List  Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how
> do I get friends validated inside MindVox? Message-ID:  Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Pat, An SSRIs are anti depression
> medication such as Paxil, Zoloft, Prozac, etc.... Annette, I feel so bad
> that you got so sick, I only threw up once and I did not feel nauseous at
> all. I actually walked to the bathroom and couldn't stop laughing. I also
> stood and sat up throughout my experience with no nausea what so ever. I am
> so glad Star had posted that you can take benedryl with Ibogaine, she had
> been VERY sick her first treatment and the next time she took it with
> benedryl she did not puke at all! She was surprised that I got sick at all.
> I took the benedryl at the time of my test dose. I would recommend taking
> benedryl to anyone who is going to do Ibogaine. Jim, also what is ssri or
> nis??? New to all thoes terms Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2013, at 11:32
> PM, Valarie  wrote: Hi Pat, hmmm..... That's weird. Jim can help you
> figure it out, he helped me. I know this though my weight is 150 and we
> calculated my dose should be 1.2 grams of HCL, and my provider actually
> gave me more based on my drug history and the fact that I was handling the
> ibogaine really well. Hi Jim, thanks for the reply, actually I have tried
> ibogaine before twice. But I had the session done at a clinic in cancun. So
> I'm comfortable boing it at home now. I only purchased 1 gram of ibogaine
> hcl. I'm wondering if that will be enuf. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5,
> 2013, at 1:30 PM, Jim Hadey3  wrote: Hi Pat In all due respect you should
> learn more before taking it. In answer to your question you compute you
> dose like this: 180 weight ----- == 82 (rounded) KG 2.2 Amount you want to
> take - you convert grams to milligrams by multiplying by 1000. Example 1
> gram weighs 1000 mg 2 grams weighs 2000 mg 1.5 grams weight 1500 mg So take
> you weight into grams and divide into the amount of HCL you think you want
> to take. We will use 2 grams for an example 2000 MG Which is two grams
> ------ 82 divide by weight in KG and you get 24.69 mg/kg - way too high You
> are looking for an number between 15 and 20. Now lets use 1.5 gm which is
> 1500 mg 1500 ------ = 18.29 so round to 18.3 gm 82 For me 18.3 grams did
> the trick, done cracked ma head, but everything is OK now. I would not want
> to go any higher it was the perfect dose for me. Being an addict we all
> want more or the highest dose we can get. It depends on what your trying to
> kick, if you trying to kick Sub or Methadone you will most likely fail,
> most who have tried that failed. They tried hard too but after feeling so
> weak and bad you just can't take it anymore. Also, don't think your now
> clean and can use now and then for that will not work, ask anybody. Again
> you should learn a bit more about the drug for it is not like any other
> drug you have ever taken. This forum is a good place to get info. I thinks
> a few yashoulds may be helpful so ya should have an experienced sitter, ya
> should keep the puke bucket with you at all times, ya should not expect to
> take it Friday and be at work Monday, ya should not be taking any SSRIs or
> NIs and a bunch more. I wish you the best of luck and I am sure the others
> on the forum do too. Ask any questions before taking the Exp. Best, - JIM
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Pat Gallina  wrote: > Hi friends, does
> anyone know what kind of dosage if I take ibogaine > hydrochloride I don't
> know the amount of dosage I should take I am make 35 > years old 180 pounds
> does anybody know what kind of dosage I should take in > milligrams??
> Thanks friends > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:46 PM,
> Valarie  wrote: > > Jeff, Don't scare me! Lol. > I still never found the
> email. Although I did see it with the link Patrick > provided, so it must
> be my email account. > On Dec 4, 2013 6:43 PM, "Jeff G"  wrote: > >> I
> think it's an illuminati conspiracy Val.... >> Watch your back. >> Jeff >>
> On Dec 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie"  wrote: >> >>> Thanks Patrick, That
> must be what it is, because I still don't see it on >>> my end. >>> How
> embarrassing I'm glad I didn't keep posting until I saw it. >>> <3 Val >>>
> On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM, "Patrick K. Kroupa"  wrote: >>> >>>> You've
> actually posted it twice now. >>>> >>>> To see what everybody else sees,
> look at the archives, which are: >>>>
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ >>>> >>>> For December, it'd
> be: >>>> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html>>>> >>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point. >>>> >>>>
> There is occasional lag because the list is very large, new accounts >>>>
> are added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are automagically
> >>>> removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000 subscribers
> for >>>> half a decade or so. >>>> >>>> Lag means: it may take 3 minutes
> from the time you hit send, until the >>>> time everybody receives your
> message, but there is never a time where it'll >>>> take hours or days,
> unless there are technical problems, which can happen, >>>> but it tends to
> happen for everybody, not just one person, and is at our >>>> end. There
> haven't been any issues for a few months since we finished >>>>
> transitioning the list to new servers. >>>> >>>> Not seeing your own posts
> can relate to either your own list settings >>>> -- you've told the mailing
> list not to send duplicate copies, and mail you >>>> back your own posts
> which are already sitting in your Sent mail box -- or >>>> how you've
> configured your email client (look in your spam folder, if >>>> they're in
> there, check them and mark them as Not Spam). >>>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at
> 11:15 AM, Valarie  wrote: >>>> >>>> > A new thread from me? >>>> > Weird,
> I don't see it anywhere, I see Silver's post asking Patrick >>>> how to
> post that's it. >>>> > Thank you for letting me know. >>>> > <3 Val >>>> >
> >>>> > On Dec 4, 2013 8:13 AM, "junkboy64"  wrote: >>>> > It posted. I
> saw it >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first
> nationwide 4G network. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -------- Original
> message -------- >>>> > From: Valarie  >>>> > Date: 12/04/2013 8:11 AM
> (GMT-07:00) >>>> > To: The Ibogaine List  >>>> > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine]
> how do I get friends validated inside MindVox? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I
> created a new post on Monday night and it still hasn't posted. >>>> > So I
> re-sent it last night and it still has not posted. >>>> > I double checked
> my email, it shows I sent it right. >>>> > Is this happening to anyone
> else? >>>> > <3 Val >>>> > >>>> > On Dec 3, 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector" >>>> wrote: >>>> > Ok duh I missed invite friends the first 15 times it got
> mentioned >>>> ;-) Thanks, that clarified a lot. >>>> >>>> >>>> -=[)
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> -0700 From: junkboy64  To: ibogaine at mindvox.com Subject: Re: [Ibogaine]
> how do I get friends validated inside MindVox? Message-ID:  Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="utf-8" You can take hcl rectally . It works great, is
> fast, and u won't lose your meds From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The
> first nationwide 4G network. -------- Original message -------- From:
> Annette Dilucchio  Date: 12/05/2013 11:02 PM (GMT-07:00) To: The Ibogaine
> List  Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how do I get friends validated inside
> MindVox? Hi pat. ?I am 105 lbs. and I ingested 1 mg of hcl and 1 mg of TA
> and it was not enough. ?I should add that I did not FEEL anything for at
> least an hour after taking all of the medication which was spaced out over
> several hours. ?What happened to me and what happens quite often is that
> the "flood dose" makes you puke up the medicine so you are kind of screwed
> then. ?Even knowing this was a possibility I followed the suggestions and
> did not eat the day of and kept a bucket beside me (I was in Mexico of
> course). ?I was anticipating fishing the meds out of the bucket if
> necessary and re-ingesting them if I threw up but when the time came it was
> not going to happen. ?I did not throw up for 5-6 hours after starting the
> dosing AND I took all the pills with some green colored Gatorade (DO NOT DO
> THIS). ?By the time I threw up, the ibogaine had completely dissolved into
> the Gatorade and I threw up every bit of fluid in my body violently!! ?So
> unless I wanted to drink it again, no bueno. ?The tracers I had started to
> see 45 minutes into the EXP promptly ended within minutes after I puked.
> ?Herein lies the benefit of having a sitter as they will (hopefully) have
> enough meds to dose you, vomit or not. Sent from my iPad On Dec 5, 2013, at
> 2:58 PM, Pat Gallina  wrote: Hi Jim, thanks for the reply, actually I
> have tried ibogaine before twice. But I had the session done at a clinic in
> cancun. So I'm comfortable boing it at home now. I only purchased 1 gram of
> ibogaine hcl. I'm wondering if that will be enuf.? Sent from my iPhone On
> Dec 5, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Jim Hadey3  wrote: Hi Pat In all due respect you
> should learn more before taking it. ?In answer to your question you compute
> you dose like this: 180 ?weight ----- ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? == 82 ?(rounded) ?KG
> 2.2 Amount you want to take - you convert grams to milligrams by
> multiplying ?by 1000. Example? 1 gram ? ?weighs ?1000 mg ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2
> grams weighs? ?2000 mg ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?1.5 grams weight? 1500 mg So take you
> weight into grams and? divide into the amount of HCL you think you want to
> take. We will use 2 grams for an example ? ?2000 MG ?Which is two grams ?
> ?------ ? ? ?82 ? ? ? ? ?divide by weight in KG and you get ?24.69 ?mg/kg -
> way too high You are looking for an number between 15 and 20. Now lets use
> 1.5 gm which is 1500 mg 1500 ------ ? =? 18.29 ?so round to ?18.3 gm ? 82 ?
> ? ? For me 18.3 grams did the trick, done cracked ma head, but everything
> is OK now. I would not want to go any higher it was the perfect dose for
> me. ?Being an addict we all want more or the highest dose we can get. ?It
> depends on what your trying to kick, if you trying to kick Sub or Methadone
> you will most likely fail, most who have tried that failed. ?They tried
> hard too but after feeling so weak and bad you just can't take it anymore.
> ?Also, don't think your now clean and can use now and then for that will
> not work, ask anybody. Again you should learn a bit more about the drug for
> it is not like any other drug you have ever taken. This forum is a good
> place to get info. ?I thinks a few yashoulds may be helpful so ya should
> have an experienced sitter, ya should keep the puke bucket with you at all
> times, ya should not expect to take it Friday and be at work Monday, ya
> should not be taking any SSRIs or NIs and a bunch more. I wish you the best
> of luck and I am sure the others on the forum do too. ?Ask any questions
> before taking the Exp. Best, ? - JIM On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Pat
> Gallina  wrote: Hi friends, does anyone know what kind of dosage if I
> take ibogaine hydrochloride I don't know the amount of dosage I should take
> I am make 35 years old 180 pounds does anybody know what kind of dosage I
> should take in milligrams?? Thanks friends Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4,
> 2013, at 9:46 PM, Valarie  wrote: Jeff, Don't scare me! Lol. I still
> never found the email. Although I did see it with the link Patrick
> provided, so it must be my email account. On Dec 4, 2013 6:43 PM, "Jeff G" wrote: I think it's an illuminati conspiracy Val.... Watch your back. Jeff
> On Dec 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie"  wrote: Thanks Patrick, That must be
> what it is, because I still don't see it on my end. How embarrassing I'm
> glad I didn't keep posting until I saw it. <3 Val On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM,
> "Patrick K. Kroupa"  wrote: You've actually posted it twice now. To see
> what everybody else sees, look at the archives, which are:
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ For December, it'd be:
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html You've
> sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point. There is occasional lag
> because the list is very large, new accounts are added, old ones that
> unsubscribe or start bouncing are automagically removed, but the membership
> has hovered at about 10,000 subscribers for half a decade or so. Lag means:
> it may take 3 minutes from the time you hit send, until the time everybody
> receives your message, but there is never a time where it'll take hours or
> days, unless there are technical problems, which can happen, but it tends
> to happen for everybody, not just one person, and is at our end. There
> haven't been any issues for a few months since we finished transitioning
> the list to new servers. Not seeing your own posts can relate to either
> your own list settings -- you've told the mailing list not to send
> duplicate copies, and mail you back your own posts which are already
> sitting in your Sent mail box -- or how you've configured your email client
> (look in your spam folder, if they're in there, check them and mark them as
> Not Spam). On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Valarie  wrote: > A new thread
> from me? > Weird, I don't see it anywhere, I see Silver's post asking
> Patrick how to post that's it. > Thank you for letting me know. > <3 Val >
> > On Dec 4, 2013 8:13 AM, "junkboy64"  wrote: > It posted. I saw it > > >
> From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. > > > >
> -------- Original message -------- > From: Valarie  > Date: 12/04/2013
> 8:11 AM (GMT-07:00) > To: The Ibogaine List  > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine]
> how do I get friends validated inside MindVox? > > > I created a new post
> on Monday night and it still hasn't posted. > So I re-sent it last night
> and it still has not posted. > I double checked my email, it shows I sent
> it right. > Is this happening to anyone else? > <3 Val > > On Dec 3, 2013
> 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector"  wrote: > Ok duh I missed invite friends the
> first 15 times it got mentioned ;-) Thanks, that clarified a lot. ? -=[)
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> -0500 From: Jim Hadey3  To: The Ibogaine List  Subject: Re: [Ibogaine]
> how do I get friends validated inside MindVox? Message-ID:  Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" About dose I meant 18.3 mg rather than
> grams. - JIM On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Valarie  wrote: > Hi Pat, To
> figure out your dosage you can go to http://www.doraweiner.org/ > That is
> the foundation Howard Lotsof founded. > Lotsof Love, Val > On Dec 5, 2013
> 8:52 AM, "Pat Gallina"  wrote: > >> Hi friends, does anyone know what
> kind of dosage if I take ibogaine >> hydrochloride I don't know the amount
> of dosage I should take I am make 35 >> years old 180 pounds does anybody
> know what kind of dosage I should take in >> milligrams?? Thanks friends >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Valarie  wrote:
> >> >> Jeff, Don't scare me! Lol. >> I still never found the email. Although
> I did see it with the link >> Patrick provided, so it must be my email
> account. >> On Dec 4, 2013 6:43 PM, "Jeff G"  wrote: >> >>> I think it's
> an illuminati conspiracy Val.... >>> Watch your back. >>> Jeff >>> On Dec
> 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie"  wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Patrick, That must be
> what it is, because I still don't see it >>>> on my end. >>>> How
> embarrassing I'm glad I didn't keep posting until I saw it. >>>> <3 Val
> >>>> On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM, "Patrick K. Kroupa"  >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>
> You've actually posted it twice now. >>>>> >>>>> To see what everybody else
> sees, look at the archives, which are: >>>>>
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ >>>>> >>>>> For December, it'd
> be: >>>>>
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html >>>>>
> >>>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point. >>>>> >>>>>
> There is occasional lag because the list is very large, new accounts >>>>>
> are added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are automagically
> >>>>> removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000 subscribers
> for >>>>> half a decade or so. >>>>> >>>>> Lag means: it may take 3 minutes
> from the time you hit send, until the >>>>> time everybody receives your
> message, but there is never a time where it'll >>>>> take hours or days,
> unless there are technical problems, which can happen, >>>>> but it tends
> to happen for everybody, not just one person, and is at our >>>>> end.
> There haven't been any issues for a few months since we finished >>>>>
> transitioning the list to new servers. >>>>> >>>>> Not seeing your own
> posts can relate to either your own list settings >>>>> -- you've told the
> mailing list not to send duplicate copies, and mail you >>>>> back your own
> posts which are already sitting in your Sent mail box -- or >>>>> how
> you've configured your email client (look in your spam folder, if >>>>>
> they're in there, check them and mark them as Not Spam). >>>>> >>>>> On Dec
> 4, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Valarie  wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > A new thread from me?
> >>>>> > Weird, I don't see it anywhere, I see Silver's post asking Patrick
> >>>>> how to post that's it. >>>>> > Thank you for letting me know. >>>>> >
> <3 Val >>>>> > >>>>> > On Dec 4, 2013 8:13 AM, "junkboy64"  wrote: >>>>>
> > It posted. I saw it >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > From my Android phone on
> T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >
> -------- Original message -------- >>>>> > From: Valarie  >>>>> > Date:
> 12/04/2013 8:11 AM (GMT-07:00) >>>>> > To: The Ibogaine List  >>>>> >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how do I get friends validated inside >>>>>
> MindVox? >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > I created a new post on Monday night and
> it still hasn't posted. >>>>> > So I re-sent it last night and it still has
> not posted. >>>>> > I double checked my email, it shows I sent it right.
> >>>>> > Is this happening to anyone else? >>>>> > <3 Val >>>>> > >>>>> > On
> Dec 3, 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector"  >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > Ok duh I
> missed invite friends the first 15 times it got mentioned >>>>> ;-) Thanks,
> that clarified a lot. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine |
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> -0800 From: Jeff G  To: The Ibogaine List  Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how do
> I get friends validated inside MindVox? Message-ID:  Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Shit, I just ate 18 grams of hcl.... Oops.
> On Dec 6, 2013 7:43 AM, "Jim Hadey3"  wrote: > > About dose I meant 18.3
> mg rather than grams. > > - JIM > > > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:02 PM,
> Valarie  wrote: > >> Hi Pat, To figure out your dosage you can go to >>
> http://www.doraweiner.org/ >> That is the foundation Howard Lotsof
> founded. >> Lotsof Love, Val >> On Dec 5, 2013 8:52 AM, "Pat Gallina" wrote: >> >>> Hi friends, does anyone know what kind of dosage if I take
> ibogaine >>> hydrochloride I don't know the amount of dosage I should take
> I am make 35 >>> years old 180 pounds does anybody know what kind of dosage
> I should take in >>> milligrams?? Thanks friends >>> >>> Sent from my
> iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Valarie  wrote: >>> >>> Jeff,
> Don't scare me! Lol. >>> I still never found the email. Although I did see
> it with the link >>> Patrick provided, so it must be my email account. >>>
> On Dec 4, 2013 6:43 PM, "Jeff G"  wrote: >>> >>>> I think it's an
> illuminati conspiracy Val.... >>>> Watch your back. >>>> Jeff >>>> On Dec
> 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie"  wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Patrick, That must
> be what it is, because I still don't see it >>>>> on my end. >>>>> How
> embarrassing I'm glad I didn't keep posting until I saw it. >>>>> <3 Val
> >>>>> On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM, "Patrick K. Kroupa"  >>>>> wrote: >>>>>
> >>>>>> You've actually posted it twice now. >>>>>> >>>>>> To see what
> everybody else sees, look at the archives, which are: >>>>>>
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ >>>>>> >>>>>> For December,
> it'd be: >>>>>>
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point. >>>>>> >>>>>>
> There is occasional lag because the list is very large, new accounts >>>>>>
> are added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are automagically
> >>>>>> removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000 subscribers
> for >>>>>> half a decade or so. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lag means: it may take 3
> minutes from the time you hit send, until >>>>>> the time everybody
> receives your message, but there is never a time where >>>>>> it'll take
> hours or days, unless there are technical problems, which can >>>>>>
> happen, but it tends to happen for everybody, not just one person, and is
> >>>>>> at our end. There haven't been any issues for a few months since we
> >>>>>> finished transitioning the list to new servers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not
> seeing your own posts can relate to either your own list settings >>>>>> --
> you've told the mailing list not to send duplicate copies, and mail you
> >>>>>> back your own posts which are already sitting in your Sent mail box
> -- or >>>>>> how you've configured your email client (look in your spam
> folder, if >>>>>> they're in there, check them and mark them as Not Spam).
> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Valarie  wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>
> > A new thread from me? >>>>>> > Weird, I don't see it anywhere, I see
> Silver's post asking Patrick >>>>>> how to post that's it. >>>>>> > Thank
> you for letting me know. >>>>>> > <3 Val >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Dec 4, 2013
> 8:13 AM, "junkboy64"  wrote: >>>>>> > It posted. I saw it >>>>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> > From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G
> network. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -------- Original message
> -------- >>>>>> > From: Valarie  >>>>>> > Date: 12/04/2013 8:11 AM
> (GMT-07:00) >>>>>> > To: The Ibogaine List  >>>>>> > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] how do I get friends validated inside >>>>>> MindVox? >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I created a new post on Monday night and it still hasn't
> posted. >>>>>> > So I re-sent it last night and it still has not posted.
> >>>>>> > I double checked my email, it shows I sent it right. >>>>>> > Is
> this happening to anyone else? >>>>>> > <3 Val >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Dec 3,
> 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector"  >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > Ok duh I missed
> invite friends the first 15 times it got mentioned >>>>>> ;-) Thanks, that
> clarified a lot. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine |
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> -0500 From: Jim Hadey3  To: The Ibogaine List  Subject: Re: [Ibogaine]
> how do I get friends validated inside MindVox? Message-ID:  Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Val, Where on the Dora does it have the
> dose? Who or what is Dora and what does the foundation do? I have heard of
> it but have no idea what they do. Bee Coo, - JIM On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at
> 11:32 PM, Valarie  wrote: > Hi Pat, hmmm..... That's weird. > Jim can
> help you figure it out, he helped me. I know this though my weight > is 150
> and we calculated my dose should be 1.2 grams of HCL, and my > provider
> actually gave me more based on my drug history and the fact that I > was
> handling the ibogaine really well. > Hi Jim, thanks for the reply, actually
> I have tried ibogaine before twice. > But I had the session done at a
> clinic in cancun. So I'm comfortable boing > it at home now. I only
> purchased 1 gram of ibogaine hcl. I'm wondering if > that will be enuf. > >
> Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Jim Hadey3  wrote: >
> > > Hi Pat > > In all due respect you should learn more before taking it.
> In answer to > your question you compute you dose like this: > > 180 weight
> > ----- == 82 (rounded) KG > 2.2 > > Amount you want to take - you convert
> > grams to milligrams by multiplying by > 1000. > > Example 1 gram weighs
> 1000 mg > 2 grams weighs 2000 mg > 1.5 grams weight 1500 mg > > So take you
> weight into grams and > divide into the amount of HCL you > think you want
> to take. > > We will use 2 grams for an example > > 2000 MG Which is two
> grams > ------ > 82 divide by weight in KG > > and you get 24.69 mg/kg -
> way too high > > You are looking for an number between > 15 and 20. > > Now
> lets use 1.5 gm which is 1500 mg > > 1500 > ------ = 18.29 so round to 18.3
> gm > 82 > > For me 18.3 grams did the trick, done cracked ma head, but
> everything is > OK now. > I would not want to go any higher it was the
> perfect dose for me. Being > an addict we all want more or the highest dose
> we can get. It depends on > what your trying to kick, if you trying to kick
> Sub or Methadone you will > most likely fail, most who have tried that
> failed. They tried hard too but > after feeling so weak and bad you just
> can't take it anymore. Also, don't > think your now clean and can use now
> and then for that will not work, ask > anybody. > > Again you should learn
> a bit more about the drug for it is not like any > other drug you have ever
> taken. This forum is a good place to get info. I > thinks a few yashoulds
> may be helpful so ya should have an experienced > sitter, ya should keep
> the puke bucket with you at all times, ya should not > expect to take it
> Friday and be at work Monday, ya should not be taking any > SSRIs or NIs
> and a bunch more. > > I wish you the best of luck and I am sure the others
> on the forum do too. > Ask any questions before taking the Exp. > > Best, >
> > - JIM > > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Pat Gallina wrote: > >> Hi
> friends, does anyone know what kind of dosage if I take ibogaine >>
> hydrochloride I don't know the amount of dosage I should take I am make 35
> >> years old 180 pounds does anybody know what kind of dosage I should take
> in >> milligrams?? Thanks friends >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 4,
> 2013, at 9:46 PM, Valarie  wrote: >> >> Jeff, Don't scare me! Lol. >> I
> still never found the email. Although I did see it with the link >> Patrick
> provided, so it must be my email account. >> On Dec 4, 2013 6:43 PM, "Jeff
> G"  wrote: >> >>> I think it's an illuminati conspiracy Val.... >>> Watch
> your back. >>> Jeff >>> On Dec 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie"  wrote: >>>
> >>>> Thanks Patrick, That must be what it is, because I still don't see it
> >>>> on my end. >>>> How embarrassing I'm glad I didn't keep posting until
> I saw it. >>>> <3 Val >>>> On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM, "Patrick K. Kroupa" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You've actually posted it twice now. >>>>> >>>>> To
> see what everybody else sees, look at the archives, which are: >>>>>
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ >>>>> >>>>> For December, it'd
> be: >>>>>
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html >>>>>
> >>>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point. >>>>> >>>>>
> There is occasional lag because the list is very large, new accounts >>>>>
> are added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are automagically
> >>>>> removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000 subscribers
> for >>>>> half a decade or so. >>>>> >>>>> Lag means: it may take 3 minutes
> from the time you hit send, until the >>>>> time everybody receives your
> message, but there is never a time where it'll >>>>> take hours or days,
> unless there are technical problems, which can happen, >>>>> but it tends
> to happen for everybody, not just one person, and is at our >>>>> end.
> There haven't been any issues for a few months since we finished >>>>>
> transitioning the list to new servers. >>>>> >>>>> Not seeing your own
> posts can relate to either your own list settings >>>>> -- you've told the
> mailing list not to send duplicate copies, and mail you >>>>> back your own
> posts which are already sitting in your Sent mail box -- or >>>>> how
> you've configured your email client (look in your spam folder, if >>>>>
> they're in there, check them and mark them as Not Spam). >>>>> >>>>> On Dec
> 4, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Valarie  wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > A new thread from me?
> >>>>> > Weird, I don't see it anywhere, I see Silver's post asking Patrick
> >>>>> how to post that's it. >>>>> > Thank you for letting me know. >>>>> >
> <3 Val >>>>> > >>>>> > On Dec 4, 2013 8:13 AM, "junkboy64"  wrote: >>>>>
> > It posted. I saw it >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > From my Android phone on
> T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >
> -------- Original message -------- >>>>> > From: Valarie  >>>>> > Date:
> 12/04/2013 8:11 AM (GMT-07:00) >>>>> > To: The Ibogaine List  >>>>> >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how do I get friends validated inside >>>>>
> MindVox? >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > I created a new post on Monday night and
> it still hasn't posted. >>>>> > So I re-sent it last night and it still has
> not posted. >>>>> > I double checked my email, it shows I sent it right.
> >>>>> > Is this happening to anyone else? >>>>> > <3 Val >>>>> > >>>>> > On
> Dec 3, 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector"  >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > Ok duh I
> missed invite friends the first 15 times it got mentioned >>>>> ;-) Thanks,
> that clarified a lot. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine |
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> -0500 From: Jim Hadey3  To: The Ibogaine List  Subject: Re: [Ibogaine]
> how do I get friends validated inside MindVox? Message-ID:  Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Jeff, Yeah, that's what happens when ya
> get old and senile, I did correct it thou. I should be having a good time
> in my second childhood but things are not the same as the first childhood.
> Last week I tried to find someone to go out and soap windows with as I used
> to do on Halloween eve and couldn't find anyone that wanted to go. Now you
> watch and see this winter no one will want to go out throwing snowballs at
> cars, yeah a boring life. BTW, I have found a pretty good way to pick up
> chicks. See, I find a nice looking chick about 35-45 and start talking to
> her and ask how her parents are doing and find out if they are divorced or
> dead. Now if they are divorced or the old man kicked the bucket I tell her
> oh your mom sounds like a wonderful lady I would like to meet her. I'm
> sorry you took the 18 gm, quick have someone get you some Ipecac Syrup and
> two boxes of Exlax and some prune juice, not grapefruit juice but prune
> juice and you should be all right. If your not feeling better you should
> call the poison control folks and maybe even go the the hospital. Now with
> a little luck you will be clean for years to come. You'll be ok, - JIM On
> Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Jim Hadey3  wrote: > > Hi Val, > > Where on
> the Dora does it have the dose? > > Who or what is Dora and what does the
> foundation do? I have heard of it > but have no idea what they do. > > Bee
> Coo, > > - JIM > > > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Valarie  wrote: >
> >> Hi Pat, hmmm..... That's weird. >> Jim can help you figure it out, he
> helped me. I know this though my >> weight is 150 and we calculated my dose
> should be 1.2 grams of HCL, and my >> provider actually gave me more based
> on my drug history and the fact that I >> was handling the ibogaine really
> well. >> Hi Jim, thanks for the reply, actually I have tried ibogaine
> before >> twice. But I had the session done at a clinic in cancun. So I'm
> comfortable >> boing it at home now. I only purchased 1 gram of ibogaine
> hcl. I'm >> wondering if that will be enuf. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>
> On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Jim Hadey3  wrote: >> >> >> Hi Pat >> >> In
> all due respect you should learn more before taking it. In answer to >>
> your question you compute you dose like this: >> >> 180 weight >> ----- ==
> 82 (rounded) KG >> 2.2 >> >> Amount you want to take - you convert >> grams
> to milligrams by multiplying by >> 1000. >> >> Example 1 gram weighs 1000
> mg >> 2 grams weighs 2000 mg >> 1.5 grams weight 1500 mg >> >> So take you
> weight into grams and >> divide into the amount of HCL you >> think you
> want to take. >> >> We will use 2 grams for an example >> >> 2000 MG Which
> is two grams >> ------ >> 82 divide by weight in KG >> >> and you get 24.69
> mg/kg - way too high >> >> You are looking for an number between >> 15 and
> 20. >> >> Now lets use 1.5 gm which is 1500 mg >> >> 1500 >> ------ = 18.29
> so round to 18.3 gm >> 82 >> >> For me 18.3 grams did the trick, done
> cracked ma head, but everything is >> OK now. >> I would not want to go any
> higher it was the perfect dose for me. Being >> an addict we all want more
> or the highest dose we can get. It depends on >> what your trying to kick,
> if you trying to kick Sub or Methadone you will >> most likely fail, most
> who have tried that failed. They tried hard too but >> after feeling so
> weak and bad you just can't take it anymore. Also, don't >> think your now
> clean and can use now and then for that will not work, ask >> anybody. >>
> >> Again you should learn a bit more about the drug for it is not like any
> >> other drug you have ever taken. This forum is a good place to get info.
> I >> thinks a few yashoulds may be helpful so ya should have an experienced
> >> sitter, ya should keep the puke bucket with you at all times, ya should
> not >> expect to take it Friday and be at work Monday, ya should not be
> taking any >> SSRIs or NIs and a bunch more. >> >> I wish you the best of
> luck and I am sure the others on the forum do too. >> Ask any questions
> before taking the Exp. >> >> Best, >> >> - JIM >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013
> at 12:36 AM, Pat Gallina wrote: >> >>> Hi friends, does anyone know what
> kind of dosage if I take ibogaine >>> hydrochloride I don't know the amount
> of dosage I should take I am make 35 >>> years old 180 pounds does anybody
> know what kind of dosage I should take in >>> milligrams?? Thanks friends
> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Valarie wrote: >>> >>> Jeff, Don't scare me! Lol. >>> I still never found the
> email. Although I did see it with the link >>> Patrick provided, so it must
> be my email account. >>> On Dec 4, 2013 6:43 PM, "Jeff G"  wrote: >>>
> >>>> I think it's an illuminati conspiracy Val.... >>>> Watch your back.
> >>>> Jeff >>>> On Dec 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie"  wrote: >>>> >>>>>
> Thanks Patrick, That must be what it is, because I still don't see it >>>>>
> on my end. >>>>> How embarrassing I'm glad I didn't keep posting until I
> saw it. >>>>> <3 Val >>>>> On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM, "Patrick K. Kroupa" >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You've actually posted it twice now. >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To see what everybody else sees, look at the archives, which are:
> >>>>>> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ >>>>>> >>>>>> For
> December, it'd be: >>>>>>
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point. >>>>>> >>>>>>
> There is occasional lag because the list is very large, new accounts >>>>>>
> are added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are automagically
> >>>>>> removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000 subscribers
> for >>>>>> half a decade or so. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lag means: it may take 3
> minutes from the time you hit send, until >>>>>> the time everybody
> receives your message, but there is never a time where >>>>>> it'll take
> hours or days, unless there are technical problems, which can >>>>>>
> happen, but it tends to happen for everybody, not just one person, and is
> >>>>>> at our end. There haven't been any issues for a few months since we
> >>>>>> finished transitioning the list to new servers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not
> seeing your own posts can relate to either your own list settings >>>>>> --
> you've told the mailing list not to send duplicate copies, and mail you
> >>>>>> back your own posts which are already sitting in your Sent mail box
> -- or >>>>>> how you've configured your email client (look in your spam
> folder, if >>>>>> they're in there, check them and mark them as Not Spam).
> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Valarie  wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>
> > A new thread from me? >>>>>> > Weird, I don't see it anywhere, I see
> Silver's post asking Patrick >>>>>> how to post that's it. >>>>>> > Thank
> you for letting me know. >>>>>> > <3 Val >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Dec 4, 2013
> 8:13 AM, "junkboy64"  wrote: >>>>>> > It posted. I saw it >>>>>> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> > From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G
> network. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -------- Original message
> -------- >>>>>> > From: Valarie  >>>>>> > Date: 12/04/2013 8:11 AM
> (GMT-07:00) >>>>>> > To: The Ibogaine List  >>>>>> > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] how do I get friends validated inside >>>>>> MindVox? >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I created a new post on Monday night and it still hasn't
> posted. >>>>>> > So I re-sent it last night and it still has not posted.
> >>>>>> > I double checked my email, it shows I sent it right. >>>>>> > Is
> this happening to anyone else? >>>>>> > <3 Val >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Dec 3,
> 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector"  >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > Ok duh I missed
> invite friends the first 15 times it got mentioned >>>>>> ;-) Thanks, that
> clarified a lot. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine |
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> -0800 (PST) From: danielle yates  To: "ibogaine at mindvox.com"  Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] Annette, Sergey, Isabelle...everyone Message-ID: <
> 1386346356.16128.YahooMailNeo at web184303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" @ Annette; I know it wasn't funny but when
> you shared your "Green Gatorade" warning I did accidentally laugh some of
> my coffee into my nose. ?NOT because addiction is funny; but when you just
> step back and think about the things we are willing to do to fix ourselves
> it's a dark comedy. ?Except it's happening to us so it isn't funny. ?Hang
> in there honey...I have no logistical advice but I got your back. ?You
> don't even want to know some of things I was willing to do to get my hands
> on Ibogaine (I'll p.m. you the Saga). ?There was something so intoxicating
> about the hope of being freed from the torture of my compulsions. ?There
> still is... ?P.S. ?I will never look @ green Gatorade the same again. @
> Sergey; thank God we are learning & evolving! ?I never understood addiction
> being referred to as a "disease" but I can absolutely see how a
> physiological, genetic, chemical, and/or environmental predisposition can
> create a perfect storm. ?I watched a Documentary about the opiate epidemic
> in Afghanistan. ?Sadly; their rehab clinics were very primitive. ?I felt
> their approach was well meaning but their whole recovery model was centered
> around shame and toughening up, with a condemning religious overtures
> thrown in. ?Maybe they didn't get the memo on how an addict will beat
> themselves down and damn themselves to Hell far better than any external
> source so if confessing and embracing that their a piece of shit would've
> solved their problem they'd have put this behind them a long time ago. ?
> Evidence based information that not only offers cause & effect
> understanding but nuts-and-bolts practical application are the most
> refreshing and effective sources of change for me. ?Also; this type of
> human interaction where I'm in a safe, loving environment but completely
> transparent. That's a whole new concept for me and I love it. @ Isabelle if
> you could look through your computer and have seen me after your
> encouraging words to Eddie you would have seen me giving you a Standing
> Ovation Whooping Round-of-Applause. ?Every word you said resonated with
> me...I know you were talking to Eddie but there was a lot of wisdom I had
> no problem applying to me. ?I hope you speak up more! ? So let me ask you
> this: ?I want a genuine Body, Soul, and Spirit recovery. ?Right now I'm on
> a "clean streak" but I'm by no means liberated. ?My brain, emotions, body,
> EVERYTHING is just waiting for when I get to "check out again." ?If I told
> myself that I was never going to abuse whatever it is again I'd probably
> give myself a nervous breakdown because the life sentence of being trapped
> in my own head uninterrupted is a fate worse than death to me and I mean
> that literally. ?I'll go in these cycles where I get so frustrated with all
> my dysfunction and I feel panicked to fix myself so I'll think to myself:
> "What is it that brought me to this place? ?What am I not facing or dealing
> with that is causing me to run?" ?Inevitably that thought process brings me
> to rehashing memories that I still don't know how to understand. ?Which
> starts a self destructive spiral of trying to make sense or find closure on
> things that will never unhappen. ?They will be trapped in my fucking skull
> forever. ?No matter where I go they be there...ready for me to remember.
> ?So then I slip into a victim mentality, and I know I'm doing it but
> usually by this stage of the spiral I'm so pissed about everything I just
> feel like I just relived that I feel justified in the fact that there were
> some legitimate sadistic fucking bullshit that I need to get over. ?Then I
> ping pong from victim mentality to anger because when I feel angry I feel
> strong. ?Almost all the other form of emotions make me feel weak, which
> makes me feel scared which makes me furious!! ?Are you seeing the cycle
> here? ?So how do I reconcile the undealt with factors that "feed my need"
> without caving into the victim mentality, self hatred, self destructive, or
> despairing way of thinking? ?How do I wrap my mind around my history,
> present, or future without sending myself into a full blown tail spin YET
> being real with myself about the factors that I need to acknowledge??
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> note on heroin music (Danielle) (SergeySibirian)
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> Message: 1 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 13:30:30 -0500 From: Jim Hadey3 To: The
> Ibogaine List Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how do I get friends validated inside
> MindVox? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Pat
> In all due respect you should learn more before taking it. In answer to
> your question you compute you dose like this: 180 weight ----- == 82
> (rounded) KG 2.2 Amount you want to take - you convert grams to milligrams
> by multiplying by 1000. Example 1 gram weighs 1000 mg 2 grams weighs 2000
> mg 1.5 grams weight 1500 mg So take you weight into grams and divide into
> the amount of HCL you think you want to take. We will use 2 grams for an
> example 2000 MG Which is two grams ------ 82 divide by weight in KG and you
> get 24.69 mg/kg - way too high You are looking for an number between 15 and
> 20. Now lets use 1.5 gm which is 1500 mg 1500 ------ = 18.29 so round to
> 18.3 gm 82 For me 18.3 grams did the trick, done cracked ma head, but
> everything is OK now. I would not want to go any higher it was the perfect
> dose for me. Being an addict we all want more or the highest dose we can
> get. It depends on what your trying to kick, if you trying to kick Sub or
> Methadone you will most likely fail, most who have tried that failed. They
> tried hard too but after feeling so weak and bad you just can't take it
> anymore. Also, don't think your now clean and can use now and then for that
> will not work, ask anybody. Again you should learn a bit more about the
> drug for it is not like any other drug you have ever taken. This forum is a
> good place to get info. I thinks a few yashoulds may be helpful so ya
> should have an experienced sitter, ya should keep the puke bucket with you
> at all times, ya should not expect to take it Friday and be at work Monday,
> ya should not be taking any SSRIs or NIs and a bunch more. I wish you the
> best of luck and I am sure the others on the forum do too. Ask any
> questions before taking the Exp. Best, - JIM On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:36
> AM, Pat Gallinawrote: > Hi friends, does anyone know what kind of dosage if
> I take ibogaine > hydrochloride I don't know the amount of dosage I should
> take I am make 35 > years old 180 pounds does anybody know what kind of
> dosage I should take in > milligrams?? Thanks friends > > Sent from my
> iPhone > > On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Valarie wrote: > > Jeff, Don't scare
> me! Lol. > I still never found the email. Although I did see it with the
> link Patrick > provided, so it must be my email account. > On Dec 4, 2013
> 6:43 PM, "Jeff G" wrote: > >> I think it's an illuminati conspiracy Val....
> >> Watch your back. >> Jeff >> On Dec 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie" wrote: >>
> >>> Thanks Patrick, That must be what it is, because I still don't see it
> on >>> my end. >>> How embarrassing I'm glad I didn't keep posting until I
> saw it. >>> <3 Val >>> On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM, "Patrick K. Kroupa" wrote:
> >>> >>>> You've actually posted it twice now. >>>> >>>> To see what
> everybody else sees, look at the archives, which are: >>>>
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ >>>> >>>> For December, it'd
> be: >>>> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html>>>> >>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point. >>>> >>>>
> There is occasional lag because the list is very large, new accounts >>>>
> are added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are automagically
> >>>> removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000 subscribers
> for >>>> half a decade or so. >>>> >>>> Lag means: it may take 3 minutes
> from the time you hit send, until the >>>> time everybody receives your
> message, but there is never a time where it'll >>>> take hours or days,
> unless there are technical problems, which can happen, >>>> but it tends to
> happen for everybody, not just one person, and is at our >>>> end. There
> haven't been any issues for a few months since we finished >>>>
> transitioning the list to new servers. >>>> >>>> Not seeing your own posts
> can relate to either your own list settings >>>> -- you've told the mailing
> list not to send duplicate copies, and mail you >>>> back your own posts
> which are already sitting in your Sent mail box -- or >>>> how you've
> configured your email client (look in your spam folder, if >>>> they're in
> there, check them and mark them as Not Spam). >>>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at
> 11:15 AM, Valarie wrote: >>>> >>>> > A new thread from me? >>>> > Weird, I
> don't see it anywhere, I see Silver's post asking Patrick >>>> how to post
> that's it. >>>> > Thank you for letting me know. >>>> > <3 Val >>>> > >>>>
> > On Dec 4, 2013 8:13 AM, "junkboy64" wrote: >>>> > It posted. I saw it
> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first
> nationwide 4G network. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -------- Original
> message -------- >>>> > From: Valarie >>>> > Date: 12/04/2013 8:11 AM
> (GMT-07:00) >>>> > To: The Ibogaine List >>>> > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how
> do I get friends validated inside MindVox? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I created a
> new post on Monday night and it still hasn't posted. >>>> > So I re-sent it
> last night and it still has not posted. >>>> > I double checked my email,
> it shows I sent it right. >>>> > Is this happening to anyone else? >>>> >
> <3 Val >>>> > >>>> > On Dec 3, 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector" >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > Ok duh I missed invite friends the first 15 times it got mentioned
> >>>> ;-) Thanks, that clarified a lot. >>>> >>>> >>>> -=[) ::::::: MindVox
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> -0500 From: SergeySibirianTo: The Ibogaine List Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no
> subject) Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Val, to be
> honest Val, I'm not sure which video Jim is referring to? I post a lot of
> stuff, much of which is just annoying? :D (it might be the "Detox or Die"
> video) Sergey On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Valarie wrote: > Jim you do
> your homework! . > Sergie I must have missed the video Jim is referring to,
> can you repost it > or just email it to me? Thank you. > <3 Val > On Dec 1,
> 2013 12:39 AM, "Randy Faulconer" wrote: > >> Jim is the man >> >> Randy >>
> >> >> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM, SergeySibirianwrote: >> >>> Jim! >>>
> >>> I just put a bright star next to this particular thread. >>> SO i can
> easily spot itpo >>> Honestly though, what you did, the research you
> carried out is simply >>> priceless. >>> Or there is a price: HOURS OF MY
> TIME. >>> >>> Plus, to be able to spot the right/mot relevant info is
> nothing short of >>> serious skill >>> >>> Thanks agsin. >>> >>> Sergey >>>
> >>> So I'm early grateful. >>> I'll go through every link >>> >>> >>> On
> Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Serge,
> >>>> >>>> Google reverse opiate tolerance this is the first page. >>>> >>>>
> (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight >>>> >>>>
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc...
> >>>> ? >>>> >>>> >>>> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors >>>> I often
> hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to >>>> opioids
> is time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the >>>>
> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012 >>>>
> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18, >>>>
> 2010 >>>> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25 posts
> May 5, >>>> 2010 >>>> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10,
> 2007 >>>> More results from www.bluelight.ru >>>> >>>> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics in ... >>>>
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? >>>> >>>> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles >>>> Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat low-back and leg >>>> pain were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance on the basis of >>>> their failure to ... >>>>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... >>>>
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? >>>> >>>>
> >>>> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author >>>> Pharmacology - Opioid
> Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and >>>> can prevent or even
> reverse the development of tolerance to opioid >>>> ...Tolerance - Does
> tolerance never fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 >>>> Combinations -
> Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 >>>> Addiction -
> Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 >>>> Effects - Possible
> reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, 2010 >>>> More results from
> www.drugs-forum.com >>>> >>>> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain -
> HealingWell.com Forum >>>> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases &
> Conditions ? Chronic Pain? >>>> >>>> >>>> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4
> authors >>>> I have been using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and oxycodone)
> for 6 >>>> years, ... Though there are drugs to permanently reverse
> tolerance for ... >>>> Changing concepts of opioid tolerance >>>>
> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? >>>> >>>> >>>> What these
> classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop to >>>> opioid
> ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and rapid >>>>
> reversal of tolerance. >>>> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance -
> Social Anxiety Forum >>>> www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery ?
> Medication? >>>> >>>> >>>> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors >>>>
> According to this research video, they found that THC can synergize >>>>
> with Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ...
> >>>> Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... >>>>
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? >>>> >>>> >>>> Feb 8,
> 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors >>>> The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough
> "doubling" of opiate effects ... >>>> effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use ... >>>> [PDF] >>>>
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue >>>>
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1?
> >>>> >>>> >>>> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles >>>> The NMDA
> antagonists were found to inhibit the development but not the >>>>
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not >>>>
> reverse tolerance. >>>> This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance.
> It's also an opiate >>>> ... >>>>
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc...
> >>>> ? >>>> >>>> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. It's >>>> also an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled
> substance in the U.S. >>>> but its no longer ... >>>> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect >>>>
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? >>>> >>>> by
> Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles >>>> Mar 27, 2003 -
> Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat >>>> low-back and leg
> pain were determined to have developed opiate tolerance on >>>> the basis
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> -0800 From: Valarie To: The Ibogaine List Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how do I
> get friends validated inside MindVox? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Pat, To figure out your dosage you can go to
> http://www.doraweiner.org/ That is the foundation Howard Lotsof founded.
> Lotsof Love, Val On Dec 5, 2013 8:52 AM, "Pat Gallina" wrote: > Hi friends,
> does anyone know what kind of dosage if I take ibogaine > hydrochloride I
> don't know the amount of dosage I should take I am make 35 > years old 180
> pounds does anybody know what kind of dosage I should take in >
> milligrams?? Thanks friends > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 4, 2013, at
> 9:46 PM, Valarie wrote: > > Jeff, Don't scare me! Lol. > I still never
> found the email. Although I did see it with the link Patrick > provided, so
> it must be my email account. > On Dec 4, 2013 6:43 PM, "Jeff G" wrote: > >>
> I think it's an illuminati conspiracy Val.... >> Watch your back. >> Jeff
> >> On Dec 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie" wrote: >> >>> Thanks Patrick, That
> must be what it is, because I still don't see it on >>> my end. >>> How
> embarrassing I'm glad I didn't keep posting until I saw it. >>> <3 Val >>>
> On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM, "Patrick K. Kroupa" wrote: >>> >>>> You've actually
> posted it twice now. >>>> >>>> To see what everybody else sees, look at the
> archives, which are: >>>> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ >>>>
> >>>> For December, it'd be: >>>>
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html >>>>
> >>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point. >>>> >>>> There
> is occasional lag because the list is very large, new accounts >>>> are
> added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are automagically >>>>
> removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000 subscribers for
> >>>> half a decade or so. >>>> >>>> Lag means: it may take 3 minutes from
> the time you hit send, until the >>>> time everybody receives your message,
> but there is never a time where it'll >>>> take hours or days, unless there
> are technical problems, which can happen, >>>> but it tends to happen for
> everybody, not just one person, and is at our >>>> end. There haven't been
> any issues for a few months since we finished >>>> transitioning the list
> to new servers. >>>> >>>> Not seeing your own posts can relate to either
> your own list settings >>>> -- you've told the mailing list not to send
> duplicate copies, and mail you >>>> back your own posts which are already
> sitting in your Sent mail box -- or >>>> how you've configured your email
> client (look in your spam folder, if >>>> they're in there, check them and
> mark them as Not Spam). >>>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Valarie
> wrote: >>>> >>>> > A new thread from me? >>>> > Weird, I don't see it
> anywhere, I see Silver's post asking Patrick >>>> how to post that's it.
> >>>> > Thank you for letting me know. >>>> > <3 Val >>>> > >>>> > On Dec 4,
> 2013 8:13 AM, "junkboy64" wrote: >>>> > It posted. I saw it >>>> > >>>> >
> >>>> > From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.
> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -------- Original message -------- >>>> > From:
> Valarie >>>> > Date: 12/04/2013 8:11 AM (GMT-07:00) >>>> > To: The Ibogaine
> List >>>> > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how do I get friends validated inside
> MindVox? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I created a new post on Monday night and it
> still hasn't posted. >>>> > So I re-sent it last night and it still has not
> posted. >>>> > I double checked my email, it shows I sent it right. >>>> >
> Is this happening to anyone else? >>>> > <3 Val >>>> > >>>> > On Dec 3,
> 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector" >>>> wrote: >>>> > Ok duh I missed invite
> friends the first 15 times it got mentioned >>>> ;-) Thanks, that clarified
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> -0500 From: SergeySibirianTo: The Ibogaine List Subject: Re: [Ibogaine]
> side note on Heroin music Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="windows-1252" Danielle, In a very short version, I'd like to tell
> you that our society has reached the level of evolution of a 5 year old.
> Maybe less. And that's a crude comparison. Our society is primitive and
> centred around self adoration, consumerism, and separation/seclusion. But
> we are evolving. Just 200 years ago people would plow land 12/24 and die at
> 40 years old. Today we have countries like Canada, where healthcare is free
> and a safety-net for the most vulnerable in society is in place. There's
> internet. We went to the moon, mars, Venus jupiter, and one of our probes
> is leaving the solar system?. Robots are getting into our homes. The human
> genome has been sequenced. Life expectancy doesn't stop increasing. Etc.,
> Etc., Etc,?. As soon as we pass on to the next level as a species, as a
> society, things will be different. It might not happen in our life-time,
> but it is inevitable. Wish you well Stay positive, nature balances things
> out. Sergey On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:57 PM, danielle yates wrote: > >
> Okay; I have to say I got a HUUUUUUUGE education on the Heroin Music >
> forum. I've never used Heroin but I feel opiates in general are headed in >
> the same direction so I like to here or see what people that are struggling
> > or overcoming are listening to. > > DISCLAIMER ~ NO ONE IS ALOUD TO LAUGH
> AT ME!!! (Deep cleansing breath > in) Honest to God; I had no idea who any
> of them were. Mostly in regards > to never hearing their music. Of course I
> know who John Lennon is but I > had no idea he had a song called "Cold
> Turkey". Most especially I didn't > know who Alice In Chains are (they were
> around during my teen years). I > have no idea how I missed that (in my
> adult life). The reason for my lack > of exposure, is I was raised in a
> community very similar to the Amish as > I've mentioned before. For those
> who don't know what that is, it's > basically a very strict, and
> disciplined lifestyle centered around the > Christian Faith. I had no T.V.,
> NO secular music, no pants (for females) > and all the other stuff. > >
> When I watched the AIC video I was like; "HOLY HELL WHO'S THE BEAUTIFUL >
> BLOND DUDE?" I mean really; he had that whole Greek God thanggoin ON! So >
> naturally I googled his name (Layne Staley) because I wanted to stalk >
> him...er; um, I mean hear more of his music. ; ) > > I CAN'T BELIEVE HE'S
> DEAD!! I know you all dealt with that about 10 years > ago; but let me have
> this. What a sad waste of friggin talent and beauty! > His story is so
> depressing! He went to 13 different rehab centers and > then gave up. At
> one point he told one of his band mates that; "he wasn't > coming back from
> this. This is it." (referring to Heroin) That statement > ferments and
> oozes despair...a despair I'm sure many of us have felt while > contending
> with the same demons. > > Clearly I need a crash course on the Grunge time
> period as I was in Church > while all that was going on (not by my own free
> will). Well wait; I was > in Church mostly. The rest of the time I was in
> Sin City learning about > all the things I wasn't supposed to look at. : D
> > > So this is my question: Was Ibogaine available or known in those social
> > circles? Was the concept of a "maintenance program" with methadone or sub
> > being utilized? Did rehabs have meds to allow for a detox that didn't >
> involve wanting to off yourself? Feel free to volunteer any pertinent >
> details. > > This begs the question; who has died or is curled up in their
> home, more > consumed with feeding their habit than getting busy with the
> God given > gifts they have? What if one of those fatalities would've found
> a cure for > Cancer? What if one of those lives could have made the
> difference between > war and peace in the Middle East Crisis? What about
> all the beautiful > babies that will never take their first breadth, or the
> love stories that > were robbed of their season to bloom? It's beyond my
> ability to wrap my > mind around the catastrophic damage that happens every
> where, all the time, > on a daily basis because of addiction. > > It makes
> me so utterly sad to think about. > > > > > ------------------------------
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> Re: wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice xmas, happy > new year and
> everything! (Valarie) > 3. Re: wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice
> xmas, happy > new year and everything! (Jeff G) > 4. Re: Homeland (Valarie)
> > 5. Re: Homeland (NycLabret?) > 6. Re: Homeland (Jim Hadey3) > 7. (no
> subject) (Jim Hadey3) > 8. eddie (star ray) > 9. Re: Homeland
> (SergeySibirian) > 10. Re: wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice xmas,
> happy > new year and everything! (SergeySibirian) > 11. Star, Val and all
> (danielle yates) > 12. Re: (no subject) (SergeySibirian) > 13. Re: Homeland
> (Randy Faulconer) > 14. Re: (no subject) (Randy Faulconer) > 15. Re: (no
> subject) (Jim Hadey3) > 16. Re: (no subject) (Valarie) > 17. Re: eddie
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> Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 10:38:26 -0800 > From: Valarie > To:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Leo, I definitely
> agree with Sergie. > It is very dangerous to stop taking benzodiazepine
> before you do ibogaine, > do to risk of seizures. > This one ibogaine
> facility I called told me to stop taking xanex one week > before my
> treatment which is absolutely CRAZY and I told them that they > were going
> to kill someone. > Once I found out about Ibogaine I made a hard decision
> to go from Xanex to > Colonzapam. I have had plenty of seizures due to
> benzodiazepine > withdrawal, and had to be careful. > I don't know if the
> Ibogaine helped with not needing as much but my benzo > intake has gone
> down significantly since I did my treatment. > I am actually only taking
> half of the dose which is prescribed to me, and > find it easier to taper
> since I did my ibogaine treatment. > Because I had to take the colonzapam
> during my treatment I did not have > very many visions, Ibogaine of course
> was still greatly beneficial as I am > now off opiots after 13 years of
> use. > I hope to be completely off the colonzapam within 3 months and would
> like > to do Ibogaine again for spiritual purposes. > Which is why I asked
> about HCL vs TA. > > Lotsof Love, Val > On Nov 30, 2013 7:54 AM,
> "SergeySibirian" wrote: > > > Val, Leo > > > > Benzos addiction is by far
> the worst IN TERMS OF PHYSICAL DEPENDANCY. > > I'm not talking ADDICTION AS
> A WHOLE. > > From what I read and researched, Ibo does NOT reset benzo
> addiction. > > And it makes sense, to me at least. > > If opioids fuck with
> the endorphine system in our brain, the benzos fuck > > with > > Our brains
> much more basic system: homeostasys and GABBA. > > Homeostatys is basically
> a state of balance the brain has to maintain at > > any price between the
> "up" and "down" states. > > Between stimulation/action and
> depression/deactivation. > > And this is exactly what delirium tremens is:
> > > The brain has been long "down" stimulated by alcohol, which also acts
> on > > GABBA receptors. > > So when a person abruptly stops drinking, the
> "up" part of brain is > > active, while the "down" waits for alcohol to do
> its job. > > The result is a loss of balance in favor of the "up", and
> delirium > tremens > > sets in. > > Convulsions, hallucinations, and
> ultimately possible coma or death... > > > > With heroin/opioids, no matter
> the severity of WD, there's no danger of > > death. > > With GABBAagonists,
> such as benzos and alcohol, there is. > > All that to point out that benzo
> addiction is very serious and in my > > humble opinion, should NEVER be
> interrupted > > But rather tapered down. > > But then again, I'm no expert
> on benzo addiction, although I've > personally > > witnessed two persons
> being brought to the hospital > > In state of coma due to alcohol WD. > >
> That pretty much shocked me so I did some research and NEVER touch >
> benzos. > > > > Wish you well > > > > Sergey > > > > > > On Saturday, 30
> November 2013, leomroz24 wrote: > > > >> So it did help you with the
> Benzodt's? I have heard from some people > >> that it does not take away
> the withdrawals from benzo and also I have > heard > >> many people getting
> rid of there addiction since it took them to the > root > >> of why they
> had anxiety to begin with. I have been on benzo's for 7 > years > >> or so
> and have cut my dose down to about 1mg per day, sometimes less > but I > >>
> just cant seem to kick these damn things. > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Nov 30,
> 2013 at 1:48 AM, Valarie wrote: > >> > >>> As most of you know I did not
> get very many visions during my ibogaine > >>> treatment which was a
> disappointment to me. > >>> Since I did Ibogaine I have cut my Colonzapam
> intake in half from 6mgs > >>> to 3 mgs. > >>> Before treatment and
> tapering to Colonzapam I had been on 6-14mgs of > >>> xanex a day for over
> 10years > >>> I am sure this is why bidding get very many visions. > >>> I
> plan to be off the colonzapam completely in about 3 months and want > to >
> >>> do another treatment > >>> Should I get the TA or HCL again? > >>> My
> boyfriend will probably watch me since my favorite person in the > >>>
> world who treated me lives in a different state. > >>> I heard the TA is
> more for visions, and HCL is more for the addiction > >>> is this true? >
> >>> Thanks for your continued help. > >>> Lotsof Love, Val > >>> > >>> >
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> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Have a nice trip MiGo! > Love ya, Val > On Nov 30,
> 2013 7:39 AM, "Mi Go" wrote: > > > hey good people from the forum, > > > >
> first of all i really appreciate to be member of that forum, first time i >
> > found a forum or people with a lot of knowledge about that plant and > >
> medicine where im much interested in, its really hard often to get any > >
> usefull information! > > > > i wanna say thx for all the replies and infos
> i got til now and wish you > > all a happy xmas etc. etc. i dont know if i
> have any inet connection > there > > where i go, i have a doubt on that
> hehe, anyway i will log in, as often > its > > possible, > > > > stand
> strong and take care everybody, have fun and keep up the good work, > >
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> from the forum, > > > > first of all i really appreciate to be member of
> that forum, first time i > > found a forum or people with a lot of
> knowledge about that plant and > > medicine where im much interested in,
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> 2013 11:09:36 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Wow Eddie, You have a lot going on. When I was on
> Subutex my depression got > really bad the 2nd year. I hope you continue to
> post on here, and I will > keep you in my thoughts. > Lotsof Love, Val > On
> Nov 30, 2013 7:24 AM, "Eddie Caceres" wrote: > > > Hey Serg > > Long story
> I'll try keep it short. Was an H addict for some time used > > everything
> under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, got clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > >
> after trying countless detoxes and col turkey. Stood clean and sober thru >
> > 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had an injury in my job that required >
> shoulder > > surgery. Didn't really abuse the medsvics,Percocet. But the
> monster was > > released. And I'm hooked tried the done for a while 2mons
> 30mgs couldn't > > deal with that shit. So I tried this wonder drug subutex
> so I thought > been > > on it since about 6months 2-3mg a day even though
> my doctor wanted me on > > 8-16 a day. Can't tell you the world of
> depression I'm in. But I've been > > researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister
> and the guy that was on the Hbo > > program for ibo (vice). EKG was good
> but my liver is in bad shape (hepc > +) > > can't really afford to go to a
> clinic but most of all I can't even break > > the news to my family. I've
> been hiding my addiction. But we all know > what > > doesn't come out in
> the wash comes out in the rinse.lol. I truly respect > > you all on this
> forum and know what I have to do but drugs and > > procrastination is a
> mother -ucker. And no one in a 12 step program would > > even understand
> Ibo so I don't mention it to them. I consider myself a > > spiritual person
> and been relying on that a lot . Got a good job good > > family but
> emotionally I'm falling apart. Especially after experiencing > all > >
> those years without using. This disease is brutal to say the least. Hope >
> I > > answered your question. Feel free to ask away I'm open to suggestion.
> > P.S. > > I've been working out a bit since my shoulder is still messed
> up. I've > been > > feeling better,my appetite is getting better and
> started talking my > > vitamins again. I was big on that and had stopped.
> Or one more thing I'm > > also a diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and
> respect Ed. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM,
> SergeySibirian> > wrote: > > > > Hi Eddie, > > > > How do you relate to Ibo
> yourself? > > If you don't mind sharing. > > > > Wish you well > > > >
> Sergey > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Cacereswrote: > >
> > >> > >> Hi all. I'm Eddie been following this list for a while I just
> don't > >> comment much. But respect you all. Just wanted to share that on
> last > nights > >> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main
> character Hooked > on > >> H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested
> Ibogaine and they gave it > to > >> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges
> it. Hooray. Peace > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> -=[) ::::::: MindVox |
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> 2013 14:45:53 -0500 > From: Nyc Labret? > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
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> charset="utf-8" > > Yours is a more common AA/NA story than you may
> realize. > > This is anecdotal but when I was in those rooms in the late
> 80s early/mid > 90s anecdotal lore was that the highest suicide rate was
> among those with > +20 years of sobriety. > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at
> 2:09 PM, Valarie wrote: > > > Wow Eddie, You have a lot going on. When I
> was on Subutex my depression > > got really bad the 2nd year. I hope you
> continue to post on here, and I > > will keep you in my thoughts. > >
> Lotsof Love, Val > > On Nov 30, 2013 7:24 AM, "Eddie Caceres" wrote: > > >
> >> Hey Serg > >> Long story I'll try keep it short. Was an H addict for
> some time used > >> everything under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, got
> clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > >> after trying countless detoxes and col
> turkey. Stood clean and sober > thru > >> 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had
> an injury in my job that required > shoulder > >> surgery. Didn't really
> abuse the meds vics,Percocet. But the monster was > >> released. And I'm
> hooked tried the done for a while 2mons 30mgs couldn't > >> deal with that
> shit. So I tried this wonder drug subutex so I thought > been > >> on it
> since about 6months 2-3mg a day even though my doctor wanted me on > >>
> 8-16 a day. Can't tell you the world of depression I'm in. But I've been >
> >> researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister and the guy that was on the Hbo >
> >> program for ibo (vice). EKG was good but my liver is in bad shape (hepc
> > +) > >> can't really afford to go to a clinic but most of all I can't
> even break > >> the news to my family. I've been hiding my addiction. But
> we all know > what > >> doesn't come out in the wash comes out in the
> rinse.lol. I truly respect > >> you all on this forum and know what I have
> to do but drugs and > >> procrastination is a mother -ucker. And no one in
> a 12 step program > would > >> even understand Ibo so I don't mention it to
> them. I consider myself a > >> spiritual person and been relying on that a
> lot . Got a good job good > >> family but emotionally I'm falling apart.
> Especially after experiencing > all > >> those years without using. This
> disease is brutal to say the least. > Hope I > >> answered your question.
> Feel free to ask away I'm open to suggestion. > P.S. > >> I've been working
> out a bit since my shoulder is still messed up. I've > been > >> feeling
> better,my appetite is getting better and started talking my > >> vitamins
> again. I was big on that and had stopped. Or one more thing I'm > >> also a
> diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect Ed. > >> > >> Sent from my
> iPad > >> > >> On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian > >> wrote: >
> >> > >> Hi Eddie, > >> > >> How do you relate to Ibo yourself? > >> If you
> don't mind sharing. > >> > >> Wish you well > >> > >> Sergey > >> > >> > >>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi
> all. I'm Eddie been following this list for a while I just don't > >>>
> comment much. But respect you all. Just wanted to share that on last >
> nights > >>> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main
> character > Hooked on > >>> H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested
> Ibogaine and they gave > it to > >>> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges
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> charset="utf-8" > > Hi Eddie, > > Yeah once you get hooked on opiates it
> does not take much to get it > rekindled. Since you used to use H you know
> what the early symptoms of w/d > are and you will have cravings and have
> the urge; you could say your back > to square one but this time it will be
> a little different. Most people no > matter how hard they try can not get
> off that wonderful Sub; they got to go > to SAOs (short acting opiates -
> perks, codiene, oxy and morphine) for 3 > months they do an Ibo detox. That
> is you take SAOs and try to get as low > as you can get, but no Sub or
> Methadone for they are too long lasting. If > you try and skip the SAO step
> your setting yourself up for failure. That > is just what I have heard for
> I never been on Sub and glad. > > Best, > > - JIM > > > > On Sat, Nov 30,
> 2013 at 2:45 PM, Nyc Labret? >wrote: > > > Yours is a more common AA/NA
> story than you may realize. > > > > This is anecdotal but when I was in
> those rooms in the late 80s early/mid > > 90s anecdotal lore was that the
> highest suicide rate was among those with > > +20 years of sobriety. > > >
> > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Valarie wrote: > > > >> Wow Eddie,
> You have a lot going on. When I was on Subutex my depression > >> got
> really bad the 2nd year. I hope you continue to post on here, and I > >>
> will keep you in my thoughts. > >> Lotsof Love, Val > >> On Nov 30, 2013
> 7:24 AM, "Eddie Caceres" wrote: > >> > >>> Hey Serg > >>> Long story I'll
> try keep it short. Was an H addict for some time used > >>> everything
> under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, got clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > >>>
> after trying countless detoxes and col turkey. Stood clean and sober > thru
> > >>> 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had an injury in my job that required >
> shoulder > >>> surgery. Didn't really abuse the meds vics,Percocet. But the
> monster > was > >>> released. And I'm hooked tried the done for a while
> 2mons 30mgs > couldn't > >>> deal with that shit. So I tried this wonder
> drug subutex so I thought > been > >>> on it since about 6months 2-3mg a
> day even though my doctor wanted me > on > >>> 8-16 a day. Can't tell you
> the world of depression I'm in. But I've > been > >>> researching ibo spoke
> to Buddy, Sister and the guy that was on the Hbo > >>> program for ibo
> (vice). EKG was good but my liver is in bad shape > (hepc +) > >>> can't
> really afford to go to a clinic but most of all I can't even > break > >>>
> the news to my family. I've been hiding my addiction. But we all know >
> what > >>> doesn't come out in the wash comes out in the rinse.lol. I truly
> > respect > >>> you all on this forum and know what I have to do but drugs
> and > >>> procrastination is a mother -ucker. And no one in a 12 step
> program > would > >>> even understand Ibo so I don't mention it to them. I
> consider myself a > >>> spiritual person and been relying on that a lot .
> Got a good job good > >>> family but emotionally I'm falling apart.
> Especially after > experiencing all > >>> those years without using. This
> disease is brutal to say the least. > Hope I > >>> answered your question.
> Feel free to ask away I'm open to suggestion. > P.S. > >>> I've been
> working out a bit since my shoulder is still messed up. I've > been > >>>
> feeling better,my appetite is getting better and started talking my > >>>
> vitamins again. I was big on that and had stopped. Or one more thing > I'm
> > >>> also a diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect Ed. > >>> >
> >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>> On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey
> Sibirian > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Eddie, > >>> > >>> How do you relate
> to Ibo yourself? > >>> If you don't mind sharing. > >>> > >>> Wish you well
> > >>> > >>> Sergey > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie
> Caceres > wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi all. I'm Eddie been following this
> list for a while I just don't > >>>> comment much. But respect you all.
> Just wanted to share that on last > nights > >>>> episode of Homeland on
> Showtime showed one of the main character > Hooked on > >>>> H and going
> thru bad wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they gave > it to > >>>>
> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > >>>> Sent from my
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> > Hi Serge, > > Google reverse opiate tolerance this is the first page. > >
> (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc..
> > .? > > > Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > I often hear people say
> the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > opioids is time without
> taking the drug, or that you can only slow the > ...(opioids) Using
> naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012 > DXM - The Opiate
> Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18, 2010 > NMDA
> antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25 posts May 5, > 2010 >
> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10, 2007 > More results
> from www.bluelight.ru > > Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to
> opiate analgesics in ... > www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > > by Y
> Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > Five patients on
> chronic opiate medication to treat low-back and leg pain > were determined
> to have developed opiate tolerance on the basis of their > failure to ... >
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... >
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > > > Oct
> 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance:
> Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and can > prevent or even reverse the
> development of tolerance to opioid ...Tolerance > - Does tolerance never
> fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > Combinations - Dandelion Root for
> Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > Addiction - Resetting a Kratom
> tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > Effects - Possible reverse tolerance? 10
> posts Jan 28, 2010 > More results from www.drugs-forum.com > > Reversing
> Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain - HealingWell.com Forum >
> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases & Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > > >
> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4 authors > I have been using opioid (tramadol,
> hydrocodone and oxycodone) for 6 years, > ... Though there are drugs to
> permanently reverse tolerance for ... > Changing concepts of opioid
> tolerance > www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > > > What
> these classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop to > opioid
> ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and rapid > reversal
> of tolerance. > Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance - Social
> Anxiety Forum > www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery ?
> Medication? > > > Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > According to this
> research video, they found that THC can synergize with > Opioids and
> decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ... > Does anything
> other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... >
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > > > Feb 8, 2006 - 16
> posts - ?11 authors > The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough "doubling" of
> opiate effects ... > effectiveness AND the prevention/reversal of tolerance
> through the use ... > [PDF] > Inhibition of opiate tolerance by
> non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue >
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? > >
> > by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > The NMDA antagonists were
> found to inhibit the development but not the > expression of opiate
> tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not > reverse tolerance. >
> This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance. It's also an opiate ...
> > www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc...?
> > > Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance. It's
> also > an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled substance in the U.S.
> but its > no longer ... > Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to
> opiate ... - ScienceDirect >
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > > by Y
> Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > Mar 27, 2003 - Five
> patients on chronic opiate medication to treat low-back > and leg pain were
> determined to have developed opiate tolerance on the > basis of ... >
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> 2013 18:42:39 -0600 > From: star ray > To: "ibogaine at mindvox.com" >
> Subject: [Ibogaine] eddie > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey Eddie, I pretty much have the same story you
> do, did some crazy drugs > when young, got pregnant and straight for 25
> years.. had three surgeries, > right knee, left knee (made it through those
> with no pain pills and > constant pain) Finally the rotator cuff shoulder
> surgery was the breaking > point. Had to take 1 vicoprophen to go through
> rehab, and then started > taking some daily. I never have taken a lot of
> anything but just enough to > mess me up, been battling with that for seven
> years and i have hep > c.......I have done ibogaine a few times and it
> always helped and also > helped my liver and reduced my viral load and
> enzymes. i am currently off > a low dose of suboxone (.25 mg) for about 16
> days, just plain > tired....anyway good luck on your journey... are you
> still on subutex?? > > Val and junkboy.... what nice messages, you are the
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> 2013 20:32:35 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddie, > > I hear you. > 20 years
> of sobriety is already saying a lot about you. > Every life story is
> unique, contrary to an opinion I saw above, and a > person's suffering
> cannot be measured in comparison to anothers. > That's my opinion. > > Hep
> C and Diabetes are a big weight, I can only imagine. > So does that mean
> you cannot use Ibo? > There are compounds being isolated from Iboga, which
> are BELIEVED to be > responsible for WD interuption. > MC-18 is one of
> those. > There's some interesting info about the subject on > Ibogamind.com
> > Very resourceful website: stands out from the rest FOR ME. > > I wish you
> well Eddie, we'll talk more. > > Sergey > > On Friday, 29 November 2013,
> Eddie Caceres wrote: > > > Hey Serg > > Long story I'll try keep it short.
> Was an H addict for some time used > > everything under the sun coke, ups,
> crack, acid, got clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > > after trying countless
> detoxes and col turkey. Stood clean and sober thru > > 12 step programs for
> 21 yrs. Had an injury in my job that required > shoulder > > surgery.
> Didn't really abuse the meds vics,Percocet. But the monster was > >
> released. And I'm hooked tried the done for a while 2mons 30mgs couldn't >
> > deal with that shit. So I tried this wonder drug subutex so I thought >
> been > > on it since about 6months 2-3mg a day even though my doctor wanted
> me on > > 8-16 a day. Can't tell you the world of depression I'm in. But
> I've been > > researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister and the guy that was
> on the Hbo > > program for ibo (vice). EKG was good but my liver is in bad
> shape (hepc > +) > > can't really afford to go to a clinic but most of all
> I can't even break > > the news to my family. I've been hiding my
> addiction. But we all know > what > > doesn't come out in the wash comes
> out in the rinse.lol. I truly respect > > you all on this forum and know
> what I have to do but drugs and > > procrastination is a mother -ucker. And
> no one in a 12 step program would > > even understand Ibo so I don't
> mention it to them. I consider myself a > > spiritual person and been
> relying on that a lot . Got a good job good > > family but emotionally I'm
> falling apart. Especially after experiencing > all > > those years without
> using. This disease is brutal to say the least. Hope > I > > answered your
> question. Feel free to ask away I'm open to suggestion. > P.S. > > I've
> been working out a bit since my shoulder is still messed up. I've > been >
> > feeling better,my appetite is getting better and started talking my > >
> vitamins again. I was big on that and had stopped. Or one more thing I'm >
> > also a diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect Ed. > > > > Sent
> from my iPad > > > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian 'cvml', '
> sibirianfox at gmail.com');>> > > wrote: > > > > Hi Eddie, > > > > How do
> you relate to Ibo yourself? > > If you don't mind sharing. > > > > Wish you
> well > > > > Sergey > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie
> Caceres 'cvml', 'ebrvwarr at aol.com');> > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi all.
> I'm Eddie been following this list for a while I just don't > >> comment
> much. But respect you all. Just wanted to share that on last > nights > >>
> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main character Hooked >
> on > >> H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they
> gave it > to > >> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace >
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> 2013 20:40:10 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice > xmas,
> happy new year and everything! > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Mi go, > > Mi go, mein freund! > Ich wunsche dir
> ein freuliche Weinachten und viel Spass! > > Enjoy yourself and the new
> year. > > Sergey > > On Saturday, 30 November 2013, Mi Go wrote: > > > hey
> good people from the forum, > > > > first of all i really appreciate to be
> member of that forum, first time i > > found a forum or people with a lot
> of knowledge about that plant and > > medicine where im much interested in,
> its really hard often to get any > > usefull information! > > > > i wanna
> say thx for all the replies and infos i got til now and wish you > > all a
> happy xmas etc. etc. i dont know if i have any inet connection > there > >
> where i go, i have a doubt on that hehe, anyway i will log in, as often >
> its > > possible, > > > > stand strong and take care everybody, have fun
> and keep up the good work, > > maybe you can sent me over some positive
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> 2013 10:51:53 -0800 (PST) > From: danielle yates > To: "
> ibogaine at mindvox.com" > Subject: [Ibogaine] Star, Val and all >
> Message-ID: > <1385837513.43534.YahooMailNeo at web184302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello... > Star and
> Val thanks for the kind words, I've considered Kratom. ?Right now > it's a
> white knuckle ride with nothing...other than a face plant before >
> Thanksgiving. ?I'm under no illusions about how temporary my current state
> > of "clean" will be if I don't implement real, tangible intervention. ?All
> I > know is I'm taking bb steps...(as advised on this very forum). > > Also
> to those that shared your Thanksgiving thoughts I think you're > incredibly
> inspirational and I'm so, so, so very glad that I don't have to > be alone
> when facing major obstacles that seem overwhelming. ?If it weren't > for
> you Trail Blazers I don't think I would even attempt such a harrowing >
> journey. ? > @ Eddie, Hello and nice to meet you. > > > >
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> > Today's Topics: > > ? 1. Re: Iboganights (junkboy) > ? 2. Re: Iboganights
> (Valarie) > ? 3. Re: Danielle (Valarie) > ? 4. Re: Iboganights (Sergey
> Sibirian) > ? 5. Re: Homeland (Valarie) > ? 6. Anyone remember??? (Sergey
> Sibirian) > ? 7. Re: Homeland (Sergey Sibirian) > ? 8. Re: Homeland (Nyc
> Labret?) > ? 9. Iboga Vissions (Valarie) > ? 10. Re: Iboga Vissions
> (leomroz24) > ? 11. Re: Homeland (Eddie Caceres) > ? 12. wanna say goodbye,
> wanna wish you all nice xmas,??? happy new > ? ? ? year and everything! (Mi
> Go) > ? 13. Re: Iboga Vissions (Sergey Sibirian) > ? 14. Re: IBOGA SEEDS
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> Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:43:53 -0700 > From: junkboy > To:
> The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboganights > Message-ID: > ???
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > jeffg, > im glad you
> posted being grateful. it helped me to remember how grateful i > am to not
> have that damned monkey on my back anymore. this list has helped > me a
> ton. thanks for everyone who has reached out and helped me on my > journey
> from being a drug addicted crazy person to a clean crazy person. > ibogaine
> is definitely a tool that has helped change my life. it actually > did not
> FIX me.. it just helped me along on my journey. > ? ive learned that i have
> to do the work to help myself, to find something > that fills that
> emptiness that is inside me that wants to be filled with > drugs, self
> destructive behavior, and chaos. im working to overcome myself. > its not
> an easy process, but so far has been totally worth it. > i like quick
> fixes. well, im learning that there there are no quick fixes. > quoting
> from NA its one day at a time. > plugging away at my issues, trying to let
> go of beliefs that are not > working, and letting other people into my
> heart seems to be working for me. > other than a stint earler this year
> involving the emergency room, morphine > and a take home script of perc's,
> its been good. > i want to say thank you to everyone on this list, everyone
> who has emailed > me privately and chatted with me, my wife who can somehow
> put up with me, > my NA group, and others who have helped take this broken,
> sad, depressed > and desperate shell of a human being, and helped me to
> grow into a person > who is healing and becoming whole again. > there is
> hope. > all it takes is a little work every day. > some support > some
> love. > some taking, > some giving > some compromise, > some pain, > some
> compassion > some random acts of kindness > and a letting go of hate, self
> loathing, pride, and thinking you are the > cock of the walk. > your not..
> just human like all the rest of us.. > love you guys and gals.. > junkboy >
> > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Jeff G wrote: > > > Saw this inside
> mindvox, thought it might be something the list here > would > > like to
> see. > > Sergey?? > > > > http://iboganights.co.uk/ > > > > And happy
> thanksgiving to all of you, I'm grateful for you, this list, > and > > for
> being unsprung from my methadone habit....and for finally seeing that > >
> all the 'reasons' I had to be high were basically full of shit. > >
> Sometimes I wish I didn't, but mostly I'm really glad. > > Peace > > JeffG
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> 2013 15:12:13 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] Iboganights > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Yes, Thank you too all who have helped me get
> clean and stay clean. > Ibogaine was a big part in my recovery. > I have
> gone cold turkey plenty of times but once I had been on Methadone >
> maintenance then Sub maintenance then methadone again then Sub again all of
> > these maintenance for 12 years left me to afraid to detox. > If it were
> not for Ibogaine I would have never got off that merry go round. > In order
> for me to stay clean I am going to an outpatient program from > 10-1pm then
> I go to a place called the Wellness Center from 1-5pm and it > gets dark so
> early now because of daylights savings it's already dark by > 5pm, > I go
> home have dinner then go to bed, so my day is now full. Before I could >
> not stop thinking about getting high, Now I am keeping myself busy. You all
> > kept telling me but I was being lazy . > Thank you to everyone on this
> list. I could not have gotten sober without > you. > Now I get to go on
> here to keep my recovery going with all your help and > help others by
> sharing my experience. You can get off Methadone! You can > get off Sub! >
> You don't need to go back to heroin and end up dying to do ibogaine you can
> > use kratom for that short time. Then depending on how your provider feels
> > detox from that or they might put you on a SAO for a couple days. Then >
> Ibogaine!!!!! > Don't let the 3 months scare you. > Love you all. > Lotsof
> Love, Val > On Nov 29, 2013 11:28 AM, "junkboy" wrote: > > > jeffg, > > im
> glad you posted being grateful. it helped me to remember how grateful > i >
> > am to not have that damned monkey on my back anymore. this list has >
> helped > > me a ton. thanks for everyone who has reached out and helped me
> on my > > journey from being a drug addicted crazy person to a clean crazy
> person. > > ibogaine is definitely a tool that has helped change my life.
> it actually > > did not FIX me.. it just helped me along on my journey. >
> >? ? ive learned that i have to do the work to help myself, to find > >
> something that fills that emptiness that is inside me that wants to be > >
> filled with drugs, self destructive behavior, and chaos. im working to > >
> overcome myself. its not an easy process, but so far has been totally >
> worth > > it. > > i like quick fixes. well, im learning that there there
> are no quick > fixes. > > quoting from NA its one day at a time. > >
> plugging away at my issues, trying to let go of beliefs that are not > >
> working, and letting other people into my heart seems to be working for >
> me. > > other than a stint earler this year involving the emergency room, >
> morphine > > and a take home script of perc's, its been good. > > i want to
> say thank you to everyone on this list, everyone who has > emailed > > me
> privately and chatted with me, my wife who can somehow put up with me, > >
> my NA group, and others who have helped take this broken, sad, depressed >
> > and desperate shell of a human being, and helped me to grow into a person
> > > who is healing and becoming whole again. > > there is hope. > > all it
> takes is a little work every day. > > some support > > some love. > > some
> taking, > > some giving > > some compromise, > > some pain, > > some
> compassion > > some random acts of kindness > > and a letting go of hate,
> self loathing, pride, and thinking you are the > > cock of the walk. > >
> your not.. just human like all the rest of us.. > > love you guys and
> gals.. > > junkboy > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Jeff G
> wrote: > > > >> Saw this inside mindvox, thought it might be something the
> list here > >> would like to see. > >> Sergey?? > >> > >>
> http://iboganights.co.uk/ > >> > >> And happy thanksgiving to all of you,
> I'm grateful for you, this list, > >> and for being unsprung from my
> methadone habit....and for finally seeing > >> that all the 'reasons' I had
> to be high were basically full of shit. > >> Sometimes I wish I didn't, but
> mostly I'm really glad. > >> Peace > >> JeffG > >> > >> > >>? -=[) :::::::
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> 2013 15:24:05 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] Danielle > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Daniel, I don't know if you have looked into this
> but it is safer then > going on pills that will be abused and not to
> mention expensive, or go to > heroin. > Kratomassociation.org > I know of a
> few people personally who are staying off Methadone this way, > and I
> personally used it to help me get off Subutex, untill I had a > seizure.?
> If you have a history of seizures high doses of Kratom can make > you
> easily seizure susceptible. > Lotsof Love, Val > On Nov 28, 2013 5:33 PM,
> "star ray" wrote: > > > > > Wow Danielle, thanks for sharing your
> story....you have been through > > alot... now personally i am not sure how
> long you have to be off > methadone > > to have a successful ibogaine
> treatment but i am sure someone on this > list > > knows... I think
> ibogaine is definitely a good idea for you... whatever > you > > do, if
> ibogaine is your plan, do not go back on methadone or suboxone!!!! > > > >
> Happy Thanksgiving, gotta go , my son and i are bonding over a movie > > >
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> 2013 21:06:46 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboganights > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Jeff, > > Very interesting! > I
> understand it's the guy's website,-David Graham Scott,- the one who made >
> the movie "Detox or Die" > > There's one thing I find funny. > At the
> "home" page, if you let the pics slide by, the last pic to appear, > it's a
> guy, Iain. > But he looks like he just OD'd on smack and has foam and like
> clouded eyes! > ? > :D > > I really respect that David Graham Scott
> character. > He's a smart fella, and he really put his Ibo EXP to everyones
> benefit. > > Wish you well > > Sergey > > > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:55
> PM, Jeff G wrote: > > > Saw this inside mindvox, thought it might be
> something the list here > would > > like to see. > > Sergey?? > > > >
> http://iboganights.co.uk/ > > > > And happy thanksgiving to all of you,
> I'm grateful for you, this list, > and > > for being unsprung from my
> methadone habit....and for finally seeing that > > all the 'reasons' I had
> to be high were basically full of shit. > > Sometimes I wish I didn't, but
> mostly I'm really glad. > > Peace > > JeffG > > > > > >? -=[) :::::::
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> 2013 18:29:37 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddie: ) > On Nov 25, 2013 10:59 AM, "Eddie
> Caceres" wrote: > > > > > Hi all. I'm Eddie been following this list for a
> while I just don't > > comment much. But respect you all. Just wanted to
> share that on last > nights > > episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one
> of the main character Hooked > on > > H and going thru bad wds so someone
> suggested Ibogaine and they gave it > to > > him. At least Hollywood
> acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >? -=[)
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> 2013 21:38:03 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: [Ibogaine] Anyone remember??? > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hi crowd, > > A few weeks ago I was
> researching all kinds > of molecules THAT REVERSE TOLERANCE. > > Proglumide
> is a top example, > but there were much more. > > All kinds of compounds
> that have different medical uses, usually > not at all associated with
> substance abuse? > > CAN ANYONE REMEMBER THE NAMES? > I would really
> appreciate since I lost track and can't find any? > > Thanks! > > Sergey >
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> 2013 22:36:35 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddie, > > How do you relate to Ibo
> yourself? > If you don't mind sharing. > > Wish you well > > Sergey > > >
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres wrote: > > > > > Hi all. I'm
> Eddie been following this list for a while I just don't > > comment much.
> But respect you all. Just wanted to share that on last > nights > > episode
> of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main character Hooked > on > > H
> and going thru bad wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they gave it > to
> > > him. At least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > > Sent from my
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> 2013 22:46:19 -0500 > From: Nyc Labret? > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > I edited out all the sideplots and posted the entire
> sequence here, > >
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rvyytmfum5pkl99/BrodyTreatedWithIbogaineOnHL.movfeel> free to pass along the link or download it. > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at
> 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres wrote: > > > > > Hi all. I'm Eddie been following
> this list for a while I just don't > > comment much. But respect you all.
> Just wanted to share that on last > nights > > episode of Homeland on
> Showtime showed one of the main character Hooked > on > > H and going thru
> bad wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they gave it > to > > him. At
> least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > > Sent from my iPhone > >
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> 2013 23:48:22 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > As most of you know I did not get very many
> visions during my ibogaine > treatment which was a disappointment to me. >
> Since I did Ibogaine I have cut my Colonzapam intake in half from 6mgs to 3
> > mgs. > Before treatment and tapering to Colonzapam? I had been on 6-14mgs
> of xanex > a day for over 10years > I am sure this is why bidding get very
> many visions. > I plan to be off the colonzapam completely in about 3
> months and want to do > another treatment > Should I get the TA or HCL
> again? > My boyfriend will probably watch me since my favorite person in
> the world > who treated me lives in a different state. > I heard the TA is
> more for visions,? and HCL is more for the addiction is > this true? >
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> 2013 05:00:30 -0600 > From: leomroz24 > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > So it did help you with the Benzo
> dt's? I have heard from some people that > it does not take away the
> withdrawals from benzo and also I have heard many > people getting rid of
> there addiction since it took them to the root of why > they had anxiety to
> begin with. I have been on benzo's for 7 years or so > and have cut my dose
> down to about 1mg per day, sometimes less but I just > cant seem to kick
> these damn things. > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Valarie wrote: >
> > > As most of you know I did not get very many visions during my ibogaine
> > > treatment which was a disappointment to me. > > Since I did Ibogaine I
> have cut my Colonzapam intake in half from 6mgs to > > 3 mgs. > > Before
> treatment and tapering to Colonzapam? I had been on 6-14mgs of > > xanex a
> day for over 10years > > I am sure this is why bidding get very many
> visions. > > I plan to be off the colonzapam completely in about 3 months
> and want to > > do another treatment > > Should I get the TA or HCL again?
> > > My boyfriend will probably watch me since my favorite person in the
> world > > who treated me lives in a different state. > > I heard the TA is
> more for visions,? and HCL is more for the addiction is > > this true? > >
> Thanks for your continued help. > > Lotsof Love,? Val > > > > > >? -=[)
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> 2013 23:30:26 -0500 > From: Eddie Caceres > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: <
> 459AC0AD-8376-4C98-BFF1-10FAC9902D46 at aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="us-ascii" > > Hey Serg > Long story I'll try keep it short. Was an
> H addict for some time used > everything under the sun coke, ups, crack,
> acid, got clean in 1990 ( rehab) > after trying countless detoxes and col
> turkey. Stood clean and sober thru > 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had an
> injury in my job that required shoulder > surgery. Didn't really abuse the
> meds vics,Percocet. But the monster was > released. And I'm hooked tried
> the done for a while 2mons 30mgs couldn't > deal with that shit. So I tried
> this wonder drug subutex so I thought been > on it since about 6months
> 2-3mg a day even though my doctor wanted me on > 8-16 a day. Can't tell you
> the world of depression I'm in. But I've been > researching ibo spoke to
> Buddy, Sister and the guy that was on the Hbo > program for ibo (vice). EKG
> was good but my liver is in bad shape (hepc +) > can't really afford to go
> to a clinic but most of all I can't even break > the news to my family.
> I've been hiding my addiction. But we all know what > doesn't > come out in
> the wash comes out i > n the rinse.lol. I truly respect you all on this
> forum and know what I > have to do but drugs and procrastination is a
> mother -ucker. And no one in > a 12 step program would even understand Ibo
> so I don't mention it to them. > I consider myself a spiritual person and
> been relying on that a lot . Got a > good job good family but emotionally
> I'm falling apart. Especially after > experiencing all those years without
> using. This disease is brutal to say > the least. Hope I answered your
> question. Feel free to ask away I'm open to > suggestion. P.S. I've been
> working out a bit since my shoulder is still > messed up. I've been feeling
> better,my appetite is getting better and > started talking my vitamins
> again. I was big on that and had stopped. Or > one more thing I'm also a
> diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect > Ed. > > Sent from my iPad
> > > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian > wrote: > > > > Hi
> Eddie, > > > > How do you relate to Ibo yourself? > > If you don't mind
> sharing. > > > > Wish you well > > > > Sergey > > > > > >> On Mon, Nov 25,
> 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres > wrote: > >> > >> Hi all. I'm Eddie been
> following this list for a while I just don't > comment much. But respect
> you all. Just wanted to share that on last nights > episode of Homeland on
> Showtime showed one of the main character Hooked on > H and going thru bad
> wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they gave it to > him. At least
> Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> >
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> 2013 13:15:42 +0100 > From: Mi Go > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> [Ibogaine] wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice xmas, > ??? happy new
> year and everything! > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > hey good people from the forum, > > first of all i
> really appreciate to be member of that forum, first time i > found a forum
> or people with a lot of knowledge about that plant and > medicine where im
> much interested in, its really hard often to get any > usefull information!
> > > i wanna say thx for all the replies and infos i got til now and wish
> you > all a happy xmas etc. etc. i dont know if i have any inet connection
> there > where i go, i have a doubt on that hehe, anyway i will log in, as
> often its > possible, > > stand strong and take care everybody, have fun
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> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Val, Leo > > Benzos addiction is by
> far the worst IN TERMS OF PHYSICAL DEPENDANCY. > I'm not talking ADDICTION
> AS A WHOLE. > >From what I read and researched, Ibo does NOT reset benzo
> addiction. > And it makes sense, to me at least. > If opioids fuck with the
> endorphine system in our brain, the benzos fuck > with > Our brains much
> more basic system: homeostasys and GABBA. > Homeostatys is basically a
> state of balance the brain has to maintain at > any price between the "up"
> and "down" states. > Between stimulation/action and
> depression/deactivation. > And this is exactly what delirium tremens is: >
> The brain has been long "down" stimulated by alcohol, which also acts on >
> GABBA receptors. > So when a person abruptly stops drinking, the "up" part
> of brain is active, > while the "down" waits for alcohol to do its job. >
> The result is a loss of balance in favor of the "up", and delirium tremens
> > sets in. > Convulsions, hallucinations, and ultimately possible coma or
> death... > > With heroin/opioids, no matter the severity of WD, there's no
> danger of > death. > With GABBA agonists, such as benzos and alcohol, there
> is. > All that to point out that benzo addiction is very serious and in my
> humble > opinion, should NEVER be interrupted > But rather tapered down. >
> But then again, I'm no expert on benzo addiction, although I've personally
> > witnessed two persons being brought to the hospital > In state of coma
> due to alcohol WD. > That pretty much shocked me so I did some research and
> NEVER touch benzos. > > Wish you well > > Sergey > > > On Saturday, 30
> November 2013, leomroz24 wrote: > > > So it did help you with the Benzo
> dt's? I have heard from some people > that > > it does not take away the
> withdrawals from benzo and also I have heard > many > > people getting rid
> of there addiction since it took them to the root of > why > > they had
> anxiety to begin with. I have been on benzo's for 7 years or so > > and
> have cut my dose down to about 1mg per day, sometimes less but I just > >
> cant seem to kick these damn things. > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at
> 1:48 AM, Valarie 'cvml', 'val.needis at gmail.com');> > > > wrote: > > > >>
> As most of you know I did not get very many visions during my ibogaine > >>
> treatment which was a disappointment to me. > >> Since I did Ibogaine I
> have cut my Colonzapam intake in half from 6mgs > to > >> 3 mgs. > >>
> Before treatment and tapering to Colonzapam? I had been on 6-14mgs of > >>
> xanex a day for over 10years > >> I am sure this is why bidding get very
> many visions. > >> I plan to be off the colonzapam completely in about 3
> months and want to > >> do another treatment > >> Should I get the TA or
> HCL again? > >> My boyfriend will probably watch me since my favorite
> person in the > world > >> who treated me lives in a different state. > >>
> I heard the TA is more for visions,? and HCL is more for the addiction > is
> > >> this true? > >> Thanks for your continued help. > >> Lotsof Love,? Val
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> 2013 07:34:23 -0800 (PST) > From: Chris Jenks > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] IBOGA SEEDS > Message-ID: > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" > > > ? Dear Friends, >
> > ? I'm in the middle of purchasing iboga seeds from Emmanuel Lih. His >
> price > is typical, and one advantage is that his seeds come from
> cultivated > plants so their harvest won't interfere with wild iboga
> propagation. These > were paid for October 22nd but shipping to South
> Africa is very slow and I > didn't suspect a problem until November 16th,
> when the package had to be > resent because of a problem at the Cameroon
> post office. That problem made > us even, since Emmanuel was hassled when
> picking up payment because > Western Union charged me dollars when I
> clearly specified euros on the > form. > > ? From the start I intended to
> write a complete report of my seed > purchasing experiences once my
> transactions are complete, but wanted to > post what I have in response to
> this thread. > > ? I don't recommend having the seeds come in the pods
> because iboga seems > to stay viable even when dried and the pods are
> likely to spoil before > arriving from Cameroon, or get unwanted attention
> from customs. The > viability of fresh but separated seeds from
> CerberusExtract.com has been > over 50%. > > ? There is a lot of recent
> information about growing iboga on facebook if > anyone is planning to
> study this seriously. If you want to start with the > discussions on my
> page my facebook id is chris.jenks.129 > > ? Yours, > > ? ? Chris > > On
> Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Valarie wrote: > > > YES! > > > > On Nov 28, 2013 12:33
> PM, "Sergey Sibirian" > wrote: > >? ? ? Emmanuel, > > seeds to plant... > >
> Of course! > > I mean, I would love to,? > > but I don't want to impose or
> intrude? > > I'm kind of new here. > > > > Sergey > > > > > > On Wed, Nov
> 20, 2013 at 10:45 AM, M. Emmanuel Lih > wrote: > > > >? ? ? I have seeds
> harvested. Anybody needs to plant??? > > > > > > > >? ? ? ? -=[) :::::::
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> text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Jim! > > I just put a bright star next to
> this particular thread. > SO i can easily spot itpo > Honestly though, what
> you did, the research you carried out is simply > priceless. > Or there is
> a price: HOURS OF MY TIME. > > Plus, to be able to spot the right/mot
> relevant info is nothing short of > serious skill > > Thanks agsin. > >
> Sergey > > So I'm early grateful. > I'll go through every link > > > On
> Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 wrote: > > > > > Hi Serge, > > > >
> Google reverse opiate tolerance this is the first page. > > > > (opioids)
> Is it possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight > > >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > > ? > > > > > > Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > > I often
> hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > > opioids is
> time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the > >
> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012 > >
> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18, >
> 2010 > > NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25 posts
> May 5, > > 2010 > > Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10,
> 2007 > > More results from www.bluelight.ru > > > > Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics in ... > >
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > > > > by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > > Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat low-back and leg pain > > were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance on the basis of their > > failure to ... > >
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... > >
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > > > > > >
> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > > Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance:
> Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and > > can prevent or even reverse the
> development of tolerance to opioid > > ...Tolerance - Does tolerance never
> fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > > Combinations - Dandelion Root for
> Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > > Addiction - Resetting a Kratom
> tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > > Effects - Possible reverse tolerance? 10
> posts Jan 28, 2010 > > More results from www.drugs-forum.com > > > >
> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain - HealingWell.com Forum > >
> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases & Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > > > >
> > > May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4 authors > > I have been using opioid
> (tramadol, hydrocodone and oxycodone) for 6 > > years, ... Though there are
> drugs to permanently reverse tolerance for > ... > > Changing concepts of
> opioid tolerance > > www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >
> > > > > What these classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop
> to > > opioid ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and
> rapid > > reversal of tolerance. > > Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse
> tolerance - Social Anxiety Forum > > www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ?
> Recovery ? Medication? > > > > > > Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > >
> According to this research video, they found that THC can synergize with >
> > Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ... > >
> Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... > >
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > > > > > > Feb 8,
> 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > > The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough
> "doubling" of opiate effects ... > > effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use > ... > > [PDF] > >
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue > >
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? > >
> > > > > by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > > The NMDA antagonists
> were found to inhibit the development but not the > > expression of opiate
> tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not > > reverse tolerance. >
> > This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance. It's also an opiate >
> ... > >
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc.. >
> .? > > > > Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance.
> It's > also > > an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled substance in
> the U.S. but > its > > no longer ... > > Tryptophan loading may reverse
> tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect > >
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > > > > by Y
> Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > > Mar 27, 2003 -
> Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat > > low-back and leg
> pain were determined to have developed opiate tolerance > on > > the basis
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> 2013 03:08:52 -0500 > From: Randy Faulconer > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello Eddie, your story sounds a lot >
> like..........................well......................all of us. I went >
> through interferon for hep C, have had hep B twice, had major colon surgery
> > for God knows what reason (I once did a gig with a colostomy bag hanging
> > off of me and took a dump while playing the keyboard part to Material
> Girl) > and thanx to this list I am still here to tell the tale. We all
> hang > together and give each other all the love we can express over the
> internet. > You are most def in the right place. Don't give up on trying to
> find a way > to better yourself. I have never seen anybody with a liver so
> bad that they > were refused an Ibogaine treatment. Heart problems? Yea
> that will scare > providers away. But I have heard of people being yellow
> from liver problems > and still got healthy enough to do an Ibo treatment.
> Ask for help, take > milk thistle, talk to a liver expert, anything you can
> do to get yourself > in a position to be able to get the help you need. > >
> What do your liver panels look like? I'm not saying that you should >
> ignore the blood work, just make sure that you get more then one opinion >
> about whether you can handle an Ibogaine treatment. There are some really >
> good clinics that have docs willing to work with problems like this.Check >
> around, you might be surprised at just what is available to you. > > I
> know, money is always the biggest problem, just stick around here > and get
> to know people. Things just might come around for you. Even if you > have
> to hang around here for ever, it could be worse, we even make each > other
> laugh from time to time so what do you have to lose? > > Peace Love and The
> Underground > Randy > BiscuitBoy Blues > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 8:32
> PM, Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > > > Hi Eddie, > > > > I hear you. > > 20
> years of sobriety is already saying a lot about you. > > Every life story
> is unique, contrary to an opinion I saw above, and a > > person's suffering
> cannot be measured in comparison to anothers. > > That's my opinion. > > >
> > Hep C and Diabetes are a big weight, I can only imagine. > > So does that
> mean you cannot use Ibo? > > There are compounds being isolated from Iboga,
> which are BELIEVED to be > > responsible for WD interuption. > > MC-18 is
> one of those. > > There's some interesting info about the subject on > >
> Ibogamind.com > > Very resourceful website: stands out from the rest FOR
> ME. > > > > I wish you well Eddie, we'll talk more. > > > > Sergey > > > >
> On Friday, 29 November 2013, Eddie Caceres wrote: > > > >> Hey Serg > >>
> Long story I'll try keep it short. Was an H addict for some time used > >>
> everything under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, got clean in 1990 ( >
> rehab) > >> after trying countless detoxes and col turkey. Stood clean and
> sober > thru > >> 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had an injury in my job that
> required > shoulder > >> surgery. Didn't really abuse the meds
> vics,Percocet. But the monster was > >> released. And I'm hooked tried the
> done for a while 2mons 30mgs couldn't > >> deal with that shit. So I tried
> this wonder drug subutex so I thought > been > >> on it since about 6months
> 2-3mg a day even though my doctor wanted me on > >> 8-16 a day. Can't tell
> you the world of depression I'm in. But I've been > >> researching ibo
> spoke to Buddy, Sister and the guy that was on the Hbo > >> program for ibo
> (vice). EKG was good but my liver is in bad shape (hepc > +) > >> can't
> really afford to go to a clinic but most of all I can't even break > >> the
> news to my family. I've been hiding my addiction. But we all know > what >
> >> doesn't come out in the wash comes out in the rinse.lol. I truly respect
> > >> you all on this forum and know what I have to do but drugs and > >>
> procrastination is a mother -ucker. And no one in a 12 step program > would
> > >> even understand Ibo so I don't mention it to them. I consider myself a
> > >> spiritual person and been relying on that a lot . Got a good job good
> > >> family but emotionally I'm falling apart. Especially after
> experiencing > all > >> those years without using. This disease is brutal
> to say the least. > Hope I > >> answered your question. Feel free to ask
> away I'm open to suggestion. > P.S. > >> I've been working out a bit since
> my shoulder is still messed up. I've > been > >> feeling better,my appetite
> is getting better and started talking my > >> vitamins again. I was big on
> that and had stopped. Or one more thing I'm > >> also a diabetic with an
> insulin pump. Love and respect Ed. > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> On
> Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Eddie,
> > >> > >> How do you relate to Ibo yourself? > >> If you don't mind
> sharing. > >> > >> Wish you well > >> > >> Sergey > >> > >> > >> On Mon,
> Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi all.
> I'm Eddie been following this list for a while I just don't > >>> comment
> much. But respect you all. Just wanted to share that on last > nights > >>>
> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main character > Hooked
> on > >>> H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they
> gave > it to > >>> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace >
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> 2013 03:11:12 -0500 > From: Randy Faulconer > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject) > Message-ID: > > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Jim is the man > > Randy > > > On Sun, Dec
> 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > > > Jim! > > > > I just put
> a bright star next to this particular thread. > > SO i can easily spot itpo
> > > Honestly though, what you did, the research you carried out is simply >
> > priceless. > > Or there is a price: HOURS OF MY TIME. > > > > Plus, to be
> able to spot the right/mot relevant info is nothing short of > > serious
> skill > > > > Thanks agsin. > > > > Sergey > > > > So I'm early grateful. >
> > I'll go through every link > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM,
> Jim Hadey3 wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi Serge, > >> > >> Google reverse opiate
> tolerance this is the first page. > >> > >> (opioids) Is it possible to
> reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight > >> > >> >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > >> ? > >> > >> > >> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > >> I
> often hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > >>
> opioids is time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the > >>
> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012 > >>
> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18, >
> 2010 > >> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25 posts
> May 5, > >> 2010 > >> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10,
> 2007 > >> More results from www.bluelight.ru > >> > >> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics in ... > >>
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > >> > >> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >> Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat low-back and leg > pain > >> were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance on the basis of their > >> failure to ... > >>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... > >>
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > >> > >> >
> >> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > >> Pharmacology - Opioid
> Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and > >> can prevent or even
> reverse the development of tolerance to opioid > >> ...Tolerance - Does
> tolerance never fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > >> Combinations -
> Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > >> Addiction -
> Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > >> Effects - Possible
> reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, 2010 > >> More results from
> www.drugs-forum.com > >> > >> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain -
> HealingWell.com Forum > >> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases &
> Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > >> > >> > >> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4
> authors > >> I have been using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and oxycodone)
> for 6 > >> years, ... Though there are drugs to permanently reverse
> tolerance for > ... > >> Changing concepts of opioid tolerance > >>
> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >> > >> > >> What these
> classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop to > >> opioid
> ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and rapid > >>
> reversal of tolerance. > >> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance -
> Social Anxiety Forum > >> www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery ?
> Medication? > >> > >> > >> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > >>
> According to this research video, they found that THC can synergize with >
> >> Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ... >
> >> Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... > >>
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > >> > >> > >> Feb 8,
> 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > >> The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough
> "doubling" of opiate effects ... > >> effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use > ... > >> [PDF] > >>
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue > >>
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? >
> >> > >> > >> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > >> The NMDA
> antagonists were found to inhibit the development but not the > >>
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not > >>
> reverse tolerance. > >> This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance.
> It's also an opiate > ... > >>
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc.. >
> .? > >> > >> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. It's > >> also an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled
> substance in the U.S. > >> but its no longer ... > >> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect > >>
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > >> > >> by
> Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >> Mar 27, 2003 -
> Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat > >> low-back and leg
> pain were determined to have developed opiate > tolerance on > >> the basis
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> 2013 03:19:54 -0500 > From: Jim Hadey3 > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject) > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > I saw that film you posted a link to and it was pretty
> good. It was not > bad when you take it but when you come out of it maybe
> 20 hours later you > may feel rough or you may have the Ibo glow. 24 or so
> hours after you take > you don't feel that great but not that bad
> considering you have just been > through a detox. I put it like this you
> will go from the worst flu in the > world to a bad cold. When ya got a cold
> ya just gotta hack it. > > As far as being scared it is not a scared
> feeling like spiders and snakes. > I seen something I wanted to change and
> I asked that it be changed and it > asked what to and I said whatever you
> think I need and the vision changed. > I am surprised the guy had a ECG
> done also he went from met to Ibo which > can be pretty rough and sometimes
> dangerous. I believed he said something > about the QT syndrome can't say
> for sure. > > Hey Sis do you have any idea if a person has Prolonger QT
> Syndrome how > long should you wait before taking to the hospital and how
> would a person > know - just curious. That was a nice video Serge posted a
> link to, short > and pretty informative. It did seem to imply that after a
> couple of days > he was alright. For me the effects lasted a good week or
> two. I am not > saying I was buzzing around but knew it would be better to
> stay in the > house and not drive. It also affected my eating habits as
> cutting down 95% > on sugar like ice cream and cola mainly. > > Best, > > -
> JIM > > > > On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > > >
> Jim! > > > > I just put a bright star next to this particular thread. > >
> SO i can easily spot itpo > > Honestly though, what you did, the research
> you carried out is simply > > priceless. > > Or there is a price: HOURS OF
> MY TIME. > > > > Plus, to be able to spot the right/mot relevant info is
> nothing short of > > serious skill > > > > Thanks agsin. > > > > Sergey > >
> > > So I'm early grateful. > > I'll go through every link > > > > > > On
> Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi Serge, >
> >> > >> Google reverse opiate tolerance this is the first page. > >> > >>
> (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight > >> > >>
> > www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > >> ? > >> > >> > >> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > >> I
> often hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > >>
> opioids is time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the > >>
> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012 > >>
> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18, >
> 2010 > >> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25 posts
> May 5, > >> 2010 > >> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10,
> 2007 > >> More results from www.bluelight.ru > >> > >> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics in ... > >>
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > >> > >> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >> Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat low-back and leg > pain > >> were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance on the basis of their > >> failure to ... > >>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... > >>
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > >> > >> >
> >> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > >> Pharmacology - Opioid
> Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and > >> can prevent or even
> reverse the development of tolerance to opioid > >> ...Tolerance - Does
> tolerance never fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > >> Combinations -
> Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > >> Addiction -
> Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > >> Effects - Possible
> reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, 2010 > >> More results from
> www.drugs-forum.com > >> > >> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain -
> HealingWell.com Forum > >> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases &
> Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > >> > >> > >> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4
> authors > >> I have been using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and oxycodone)
> for 6 > >> years, ... Though there are drugs to permanently reverse
> tolerance for > ... > >> Changing concepts of opioid tolerance > >>
> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >> > >> > >> What these
> classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop to > >> opioid
> ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and rapid > >>
> reversal of tolerance. > >> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance -
> Social Anxiety Forum > >> www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery ?
> Medication? > >> > >> > >> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > >>
> According to this research video, they found that THC can synergize with >
> >> Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ... >
> >> Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... > >>
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > >> > >> > >> Feb 8,
> 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > >> The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough
> "doubling" of opiate effects ... > >> effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use > ... > >> [PDF] > >>
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue > >>
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? >
> >> > >> > >> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > >> The NMDA
> antagonists were found to inhibit the development but not the > >>
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not > >>
> reverse tolerance. > >> This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance.
> It's also an opiate > ... > >>
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc.. >
> .? > >> > >> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. It's > >> also an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled
> substance in the U.S. > >> but its no longer ... > >> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect > >>
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > >> > >> by
> Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >> Mar 27, 2003 -
> Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat > >> low-back and leg
> pain were determined to have developed opiate > tolerance on > >> the basis
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> 2013 01:03:08 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] (no subject) > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > Jim you do your homework! . > Sergie I must have missed
> the video Jim is referring to, can you repost it > or just email it to me?
> Thank you. > <3 Val > On Dec 1, 2013 12:39 AM, "Randy Faulconer" wrote: > >
> > Jim is the man > > > > Randy > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM,
> Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > > > >> Jim! > >> > >> I just put a bright star
> next to this particular thread. > >> SO i can easily spot itpo > >>
> Honestly though, what you did, the research you carried out is simply > >>
> priceless. > >> Or there is a price: HOURS OF MY TIME. > >> > >> Plus, to
> be able to spot the right/mot relevant info is nothing short of > >>
> serious skill > >> > >> Thanks agsin. > >> > >> Sergey > >> > >> So I'm
> early grateful. > >> I'll go through every link > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Nov
> 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi Serge, > >>> >
> >>> Google reverse opiate tolerance this is the first page. > >>> > >>>
> (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight > >>> >
> >>> >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > >>> ? > >>> > >>> > >>> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > >>>
> I often hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > >>>
> opioids is time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the >
> >>> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012
> > >>> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18,
> > >>> 2010 > >>> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25
> posts May 5, > >>> 2010 > >>> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts
> Jul 10, 2007 > >>> More results from www.bluelight.ru > >>> > >>>
> Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics in ... > >>>
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > >>> > >>> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >>> Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat low-back and leg > >>> pain were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance on the basis of > >>> their failure to ... > >>>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... > >>>
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > >>> > >>>
> > >>> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > >>> Pharmacology - Opioid
> Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and > >>> can prevent or even
> reverse the development of tolerance to opioid > >>> ...Tolerance - Does
> tolerance never fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > >>> Combinations -
> Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > >>> Addiction -
> Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > >>> Effects - Possible
> reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, 2010 > >>> More results from
> www.drugs-forum.com > >>> > >>> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain
> - HealingWell.com Forum > >>> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases &
> Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > >>> > >>> > >>> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4
> authors > >>> I have been using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and
> oxycodone) for 6 > >>> years, ... Though there are drugs to permanently
> reverse tolerance for > ... > >>> Changing concepts of opioid tolerance >
> >>> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >>> > >>> > >>>
> What these classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop to > >>>
> opioid ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and rapid > >>>
> reversal of tolerance. > >>> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance -
> Social Anxiety Forum > >>> www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery
> ? Medication? > >>> > >>> > >>> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > >>>
> According to this research video, they found that THC can synergize > with
> > >>> Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ...
> > >>> Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... > >>>
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > >>> > >>> > >>> Feb
> 8, 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > >>> The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a
> rough "doubling" of opiate effects ... > >>> effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use > ... > >>> [PDF] > >>>
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue > >>>
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? >
> >>> > >>> > >>> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > >>> The NMDA
> antagonists were found to inhibit the development but not the > >>>
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not >
> >>> reverse tolerance. > >>> This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. It's also an opiate > >>> ... > >>>
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc. >
> .. > >>> ? > >>> > >>> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse
> opiate tolerance. It's > >>> also an opiate potentiator and is not a
> controlled substance in the > U.S. > >>> but its no longer ... > >>>
> Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect >
> >>> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > >>> >
> >>> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >>> Mar 27,
> 2003 - Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat > >>> low-back
> and leg pain were determined to have developed opiate > tolerance on > >>>
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> 2013 23:46:50 -0500 > From: Eddie Caceres > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] eddie > Message-ID: <
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> charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks all for the kind words and the warm welcome.
> Yes Star still on sub > about 2-3 mg depends on my day don't want to go
> above that. I've been since > July ( sub). I haven't considered IBO not
> because of my Hep c but my > finances and situation at home. Won't be easy
> breaking the news to family. > Love and respect to all > > Sent from my
> iPhone > > > On Nov 30, 2013, at 7:42 PM, star ray wrote: > > > > Hey
> Eddie, I pretty much have the same story you do, did some crazy > drugs
> when young, got pregnant and straight for 25 years.. had three > surgeries,
> right knee, left knee (made it through those with no pain pills > and
> constant pain) Finally the rotator cuff shoulder surgery was the > breaking
> point. Had to take 1 vicoprophen to go through rehab, and then > started
> taking some daily. I never have taken a lot of anything but just > enough
> to mess me up, been battling with that for seven years and i have > hep
> c.......I have done ibogaine a few times and it always helped and also >
> helped my liver and reduced my viral load and enzymes. i am currently off >
> a low dose of suboxone (.25 mg) for about 16 days, just plain >
> tired....anyway good luck on your journey... are you still on subutex?? > >
> > > Val and junkboy.... what nice messages, you are the best > > > > peace
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> 2013 10:26:11 -0500 > From: Jim Hadey3 > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] eddie > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddi, > > I and many other people took Ibo with
> Hep C and are alive to talk about it. > I know nothing about medicine but
> if your in mediocre health I think you > will make it. I did it 4 times and
> ta ta as you know I am still around. > Of course everyone is different,
> maybe you could find out how bad you > liver is then make a decision. > >
> Best, > > - JIM > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Eddie Caceres
> wrote: > > > Thanks all for the kind words and the warm welcome. Yes Star
> still on sub > > about 2-3 mg depends on my day don't want to go above
> that. I've been > since > > July ( sub). I haven't considered IBO not
> because of my Hep c but my > > finances and situation at home. Won't be
> easy breaking the news to > family. > > Love and respect to all > > > >
> Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Nov 30, 2013, at 7:42 PM, star ray wrote: >
> > > > Hey Eddie, I pretty much have the same story you do, did some crazy >
> drugs > > when young, got pregnant and straight for 25 years.. had three
> surgeries, > > right knee, left knee (made it through those with no pain
> pills and > > constant pain) Finally the rotator cuff shoulder surgery was
> the breaking > > point. Had to take 1 vicoprophen to go through rehab, and
> then > > started taking some daily. I never have taken a lot of anything
> but just > > enough to mess me up, been battling with that for seven years
> and i have > > hep c.......I have done ibogaine a few times and it always
> helped and > also > > helped my liver and reduced my viral load and
> enzymes. i am currently > off > > a low dose of suboxone (.25 mg) for about
> 16 days, just plain > > tired....anyway good luck on your journey... are
> you still on subutex?? > > > > Val and junkboy.... what nice messages, you
> are the best > > > > peace and love, STAR > > > > > > > > -=[) :::::::
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> -0800 From: Valarie To: The Ibogaine List Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no
> subject) Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Sergie,
> Detox or Die. That was the documentary on PBS right? I think I have seen
> every Ibogaine documentary their is. But if you, or anyone knows about any
> new ones please let me know. Even though I have already done iboga, I love
> those documentaries! <3 Val On Dec 5, 2013 3:07 PM, "Sergey Sibirian"
> wrote: > Val, > > to be honest Val, I'm not sure which video Jim is
> referring to? > > I post a lot of stuff, much of which is just annoying? >
> > :D > > (it might be the "Detox or Die" video) > > Sergey > > > On Sun,
> Dec 1, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Valarie wrote: > >> Jim you do your homework! . >>
> Sergie I must have missed the video Jim is referring to, can you repost >>
> it or just email it to me? Thank you. >> <3 Val >> On Dec 1, 2013 12:39 AM,
> "Randy Faulconer" >> wrote: >> >>> Jim is the man >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Sergey Sibirian wrote: >>> >>>> Jim! >>>>
> >>>> I just put a bright star next to this particular thread. >>>> SO i can
> easily spot itpo >>>> Honestly though, what you did, the research you
> carried out is simply >>>> priceless. >>>> Or there is a price: HOURS OF MY
> TIME. >>>> >>>> Plus, to be able to spot the right/mot relevant info is
> nothing short >>>> of serious skill >>>> >>>> Thanks agsin. >>>> >>>>
> Sergey >>>> >>>> So I'm early grateful. >>>> I'll go through every link
> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 wrote: >>>>
> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Serge, >>>>> >>>>> Google reverse opiate tolerance this is
> the first page. >>>>> >>>>> (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid
> tolerance? - Bluelight >>>>> >>>>>
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc...
> >>>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors >>>>> I
> often hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to >>>>>
> opioids is time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the
> >>>>> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11,
> 2012 >>>>> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts
> Aug 18, >>>>> 2010 >>>>> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of
> the ... 25 posts May >>>>> 5, 2010 >>>>> Preventing/reducing opiate
> tolerance 25 posts Jul 10, 2007 >>>>> More results from www.bluelight.ru>>>>> >>>>> Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics
> in ... >>>>> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? >>>>> >>>>> by Y
> Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles >>>>> Five patients on
> chronic opiate medication to treat low-back and leg >>>>> pain were
> determined to have developed opiate tolerance on the basis of >>>>> their
> failure to ... >>>>> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor
> Sensitivity ... >>>>> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates &
> Opioids? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author >>>>>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... >>>>>
> and can prevent or even reverse the development of tolerance to opioid
> >>>>> ...Tolerance - Does tolerance never fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6,
> 2012 >>>>> Combinations - Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan
> 11, 2011 >>>>> Addiction - Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts Apr 8,
> 2010 >>>>> Effects - Possible reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, 2010
> >>>>> More results from www.drugs-forum.com >>>>> >>>>> Reversing Opioid
> Tolerance - Chronic Pain - HealingWell.com Forum >>>>> www.healingwell.com? ... ? Diseases & Conditions ? Chronic Pain? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> May 23,
> 2010 - 8 posts - ?4 authors >>>>> I have been using opioid (tramadol,
> hydrocodone and oxycodone) for 6 >>>>> years, ... Though there are drugs to
> permanently reverse tolerance for ... >>>>> Changing concepts of opioid
> tolerance >>>>> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>> What these classical studies showed is that tolerance does
> develop to >>>>> opioid ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in
> pain and rapid >>>>> reversal of tolerance. >>>>> Opioids, Cannabinoids,
> and reverse tolerance - Social Anxiety Forum >>>>>
> www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery ? Medication? >>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors >>>>> According to this research
> video, they found that THC can synergize >>>>> with Opioids and decrease
> and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ... >>>>> Does anything other
> than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... >>>>>
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Feb
> 8, 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors >>>>> The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a
> rough "doubling" of opiate effects >>>>> ... effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use >>>>> ... >>>>> [PDF]
> >>>>> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue
> >>>>> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1?
> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles >>>>> The NMDA
> antagonists were found to inhibit the development but not the >>>>>
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not
> >>>>> reverse tolerance. >>>>> This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. It's also an opiate >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>>
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc...
> >>>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. It's >>>>> also an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled
> substance in the U.S. >>>>> but its no longer ... >>>>> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect >>>>>
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? >>>>> >>>>>
> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles >>>>> Mar 27,
> 2003 - Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat >>>>> low-back
> and leg pain were determined to have developed opiate tolerance on >>>>>
> the basis of ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List
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> -0500 From: Sergey Sibirian To: The Ibogaine List Subject: Re: [Ibogaine]
> Anyone remember??? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="windows-1252" Annette, I was just discussing Tryptophan with
> Danielle for a whole different reason? Its a bit different though?. QUOTE!
> For many organisms (including humans), tryptophan is an essential amino
> acid. This means that it is essential for human life, cannot be synthesized
> by the organism, and therefore must be part of our diet. Amino acids,
> including tryptophan, act as building blocks in protein biosynthesis. In
> addition, tryptophan functions as a biochemical precursorfor the following
> compounds (see also figure to the right): - Serotonin (a neurotransmitter),
> synthesized via tryptophan hydroxylase.[8] [9]Serotonin, in turn, can be
> converted to melatonin(aneurohormone ), via N-acetyltransferase and
> 5-hydroxyindole-O-methyltransferaseactivities.[10]- Niacin is synthesized
> from tryptophan via kynurenine and quinolinic acids as key biosynthetic
> intermediates.[11]- Auxin (a phytohormone) when sieve tube elementsundergo
> apoptosis tryptophan is converted to auxins. Wish you well Sergey *P.S.
> Ever tried DMT?* On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Annette Dilucchio wrote: >
> Tryptophan?? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 6:38 PM,
> Sergey Sibirian > wrote: > > Hi crowd, > > A few weeks ago I was
> researching all kinds > of molecules THAT REVERSE TOLERANCE. > > Proglumide
> is a top example, > but there were much more. > > All kinds of compounds
> that have different medical uses, usually > not at all associated with
> substance abuse? > > CAN ANYONE REMEMBER THE NAMES? > I would really
> appreciate since I lost track and can't find any? > > Thanks! > > Sergey >
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> -0500 From: Sergey Sibirian To: The Ibogaine List Subject: Re: [Ibogaine]
> Ibogaine affordably? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" V. Bird, Hi and welcome! Seems like you have a similar
> ind-set to other members of the list. The fact that you were able to get
> off a hellish long-life opioid tells me a lot about your personality. Check
> all the websites related to Ibo use in addiction interruption. ALL THE INFO
> IS THERE. (general and more tailored, its a mix) Ibogamind.com
> http://iceers.org/use-of-iboga.php#.UqEUBqUzL1p
> http://opioidaddiction.weebly.com http://www.ibogaine.org/index.html
> http://www.ibogaworld.com subsux.com
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proglumide http://www.myeboga.org Ibo
> fatalities- Google Searchhttp://ibogalife.com/iboga-judgement-day-iceers/
> http://kratomassociation.org
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUPFHF8khxY&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL1DF6F7219910257BHope those help Wish you well Sergey On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:17 PM,
> Valerie Bird wrote: > I'm new here. This is my first posting. Hope I'm
> doing it right. I spent > 14 years on opiates. 14 years of increasing hell.
> I've been off the hard > core opiates and in a 12 step program for 3.5
> years now. I spent 2.5 years > on suboxone and I thought I'd never get off
> it...it sucked because I > couldn't wrap my head around the withdrawals.
> They came in later and were > even worse than the opiate withdrawal. I
> finally got off it using > tramadol. Unfortunately it took a lot of
> tramadol! I am finally off that > too! I saw an episode of Law and Order
> SVU where a heroin addict was > treated with ibogaine. .that started my
> research. I'm disgusted with the > elite capitalist bullshit reasons that
> ibogaine is not legal in the US. The > pharmaceutical manufacturers had all
> my money on opiates then on suboxone, > then tramadol..and now I sit 3.5
> years later and I still have the damn hole > inside me that I started with
> and I'm broke!. I did the 12 steps, have a > sponsor, and got real involved
> in the recovery movement. I'm sick that > now that the "medical" treatment
> is over I still crave filling the void! I > am in Florida and I want
> ibogaine but I can't afford to turn this into a > luxury vacation for God's
> sake! I need the deep cleansing and the > emotional, spiritual, and
> intellectual insights that ibogaine can give. > Meditation and prayer still
> have not been enough. Any advise on where to > go safely and affordably? >
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> -0800 From: Valarie To: The Ibogaine List Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no
> subject) Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Sergie, and
> All . Did you ever find a reliable source for Proglumide? I just would like
> to hear someone's experience with it. >From what I read it seems it would
> work. I DO share my experience with Ibogaine in my outpatient class and in
> NA. I have never been hushed. I actually get people coming up to me giving
> me their phone number and want to hear more about Ibogaine, and my
> experience. I just say if you are afraid to detox or trapped on maintenance
> drug, there is a way out called Ibogaine, and that's how I got clean, and
> going to my about drug program and NA Is how I am STAYING clean. Then I
> will refer people to this list. I'm actually going to meet this woman's
> daughter tonight at an NA meeting, this young lady is trapped on Methadone
> maintenance and like me can not get any SAOs, so although I agree with what
> most people said about Kratom once you are clean, for those who are NOT
> clean Kratom seems to be the SAFEST way to go. Eric Taub is the one who
> told me about Kratom, he said you CAN go straight from Kratom to Ibogaine,
> which is also documented here
> http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=86136 , I respect other
> providers who say to go to a SAO for a few days after Kratom and before
> their treatment. I am NO expert, I just share what I have learned. As I
> shared before, After I had a seizure again and did not know wwhy I decided
> to stop Kratom and could no longer get any SAOs, I went to heroin for the
> first time, good for me it s only for 3 days but I was smoking so much.
> Then thanks to many here and Junkboy helping me with the Poppy Pods
> (luckily I could afford them) I didn't have to continue with the Heroin,
> because that could have spun out of control real fast. I believe people
> should know that there is a MUCH SAFER way. I didn't really like Heroin and
> didn't feel it as much as I felt pills and I could have seen myself going
> down the needle road real quick. I am so thankful that I found other
> options to get those 3 months off Sub. And like what was told to me on this
> list I keep very busy now. Lotsof Love, Val On Dec 5, 2013 3:19 PM,
> "Valarie" wrote: > Hi Sergie, > Detox or Die. That was the documentary on
> PBS right? > I think I have seen every Ibogaine documentary their is. > But
> if you, or anyone knows about any new ones please let me know. > Even
> though I have already done iboga, I love those documentaries! > <3 Val > On
> Dec 5, 2013 3:07 PM, "Sergey Sibirian" wrote: > >> Val, >> >> to be honest
> Val, I'm not sure which video Jim is referring to? >> >> I post a lot of
> stuff, much of which is just annoying? >> >> :D >> >> (it might be the
> "Detox or Die" video) >> >> Sergey >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 4:03 AM,
> Valarie wrote: >> >>> Jim you do your homework! . >>> Sergie I must have
> missed the video Jim is referring to, can you repost >>> it or just email
> it to me? Thank you. >>> <3 Val >>> On Dec 1, 2013 12:39 AM, "Randy
> Faulconer" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Jim is the man >>>> >>>> Randy >>>> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Sergey Sibirian >>> > wrote: >>>>
> >>>>> Jim! >>>>> >>>>> I just put a bright star next to this particular
> thread. >>>>> SO i can easily spot itpo >>>>> Honestly though, what you
> did, the research you carried out is simply >>>>> priceless. >>>>> Or there
> is a price: HOURS OF MY TIME. >>>>> >>>>> Plus, to be able to spot the
> right/mot relevant info is nothing short >>>>> of serious skill >>>>> >>>>>
> Thanks agsin. >>>>> >>>>> Sergey >>>>> >>>>> So I'm early grateful. >>>>>
> I'll go through every link >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15
> PM, Jim Hadey3 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Serge, >>>>>> >>>>>> Google
> reverse opiate tolerance this is the first page. >>>>>> >>>>>> (opioids) Is
> it possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight >>>>>> >>>>>>
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc...
> >>>>>> ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors >>>>>>
> I often hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to >>>>>>
> opioids is time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the
> >>>>>> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11,
> 2012 >>>>>> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts
> Aug 18, >>>>>> 2010 >>>>>> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of
> the ... 25 posts May >>>>>> 5, 2010 >>>>>> Preventing/reducing opiate
> tolerance 25 posts Jul 10, 2007 >>>>>> More results from www.bluelight.ru>>>>>> >>>>>> Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics
> in ... >>>>>> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? >>>>>> >>>>>> by Y
> Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles >>>>>> Five patients
> on chronic opiate medication to treat low-back and leg >>>>>> pain were
> determined to have developed opiate tolerance on the basis of >>>>>> their
> failure to ... >>>>>> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor
> Sensitivity ... >>>>>> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates
> & Opioids? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author >>>>>>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... >>>>>>
> and can prevent or even reverse the development of tolerance to opioid
> >>>>>> ...Tolerance - Does tolerance never fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6,
> 2012 >>>>>> Combinations - Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan
> 11, >>>>>> 2011 >>>>>> Addiction - Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts
> Apr 8, 2010 >>>>>> Effects - Possible reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28,
> 2010 >>>>>> More results from www.drugs-forum.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Reversing
> Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain - HealingWell.com Forum >>>>>>
> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases & Conditions ? Chronic Pain? >>>>>>
> >>>>>> >>>>>> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4 authors >>>>>> I have been using
> opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and oxycodone) for 6 >>>>>> years, ... Though
> there are drugs to permanently reverse tolerance for ... >>>>>> Changing
> concepts of opioid tolerance >>>>>>
> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What
> these classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop to >>>>>>
> opioid ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and rapid
> >>>>>> reversal of tolerance. >>>>>> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse
> tolerance - Social Anxiety Forum >>>>>> www.socialanxietysupport.com ?
> ... ? Recovery ? Medication? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts -
> ?8 authors >>>>>> According to this research video, they found that THC can
> synergize >>>>>> with Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid
> tolerance. I got my ... >>>>>> Does anything other than TIME lower
> tolerance? [Archive ... >>>>>>
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
> Feb 8, 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors >>>>>> The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces
> a rough "doubling" of opiate effects >>>>>> ... effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use >>>>>> ... >>>>>> [PDF]
> >>>>>> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue
> >>>>>>
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1?
> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles >>>>>> The
> NMDA antagonists were found to inhibit the development but not >>>>>> the
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not
> >>>>>> reverse tolerance. >>>>>> This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. It's also an >>>>>> opiate ... >>>>>> >>>>>>
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc...
> >>>>>> ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse
> opiate tolerance. It's >>>>>> also an opiate potentiator and is not a
> controlled substance in the U.S. >>>>>> but its no longer ... >>>>>>
> Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect
> >>>>>> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? >>>>>>
> >>>>>> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles >>>>>> Mar
> 27, 2003 - Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat >>>>>>
> low-back and leg pain were determined to have developed opiate tolerance on
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> -0500 From: Pat Gallina To: The Ibogaine List Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how
> do I get friends validated inside MindVox? Message-ID: <
> 2AFF3578-52BA-4883-8640-0A23E8D33017 at icloud.com> Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Jim, thanks for the reply, actually I
> have tried ibogaine before twice. But I had the session done at a clinic in
> cancun. So I'm comfortable boing it at home now. I only purchased 1 gram of
> ibogaine hcl. I'm wondering if that will be enuf. Sent from my iPhone > On
> Dec 5, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Jim Hadey3 wrote: > > > Hi Pat > > In all due
> respect you should learn more before taking it. In answer to your question
> you compute you dose like this: > > 180 weight > ----- == 82 (rounded) KG >
> 2.2 > > Amount you want to take - you convert > grams to milligrams by
> multiplying by > 1000. > > Example 1 gram weighs 1000 mg > 2 grams weighs
> 2000 mg > 1.5 grams weight 1500 mg > > So take you weight into grams and >
> divide into the amount of HCL you > think you want to take. > > We will use
> 2 grams for an example > > 2000 MG Which is two grams > ------ > 82 divide
> by weight in KG > > and you get 24.69 mg/kg - way too high > > You are
> looking for an number between > 15 and 20. > > Now lets use 1.5 gm which is
> 1500 mg > > 1500 > ------ = 18.29 so round to 18.3 gm > 82 > > For me 18.3
> grams did the trick, done cracked ma head, but everything is OK now. > I
> would not want to go any higher it was the perfect dose for me. Being an
> addict we all want more or the highest dose we can get. It depends on what
> your trying to kick, if you trying to kick Sub or Methadone you will most
> likely fail, most who have tried that failed. They tried hard too but after
> feeling so weak and bad you just can't take it anymore. Also, don't think
> your now clean and can use now and then for that will not work, ask
> anybody. > > Again you should learn a bit more about the drug for it is not
> like any other drug you have ever taken. This forum is a good place to get
> info. I thinks a few yashoulds may be helpful so ya should have an
> experienced sitter, ya should keep the puke bucket with you at all times,
> ya should not expect to take it Friday and be at work Monday, ya should not
> be taking any SSRIs or NIs and a bunch more. > > I wish you the best of
> luck and I am sure the others on the forum do too. Ask any questions before
> taking the Exp. > > Best, > > - JIM > > >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:36 AM,
> Pat Gallina wrote: >> Hi friends, does anyone know what kind of dosage if I
> take ibogaine hydrochloride I don't know the amount of dosage I should take
> I am make 35 years old 180 pounds does anybody know what kind of dosage I
> should take in milligrams?? Thanks friends >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>
> On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Valarie wrote: >>> >>> Jeff, Don't scare me!
> Lol. >>> I still never found the email. Although I did see it with the link
> Patrick provided, so it must be my email account. >>>> On Dec 4, 2013 6:43
> PM, "Jeff G" wrote: >>>> I think it's an illuminati conspiracy Val.... >>>>
> Watch your back. >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>>> On Dec 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie"
> wrote: >>>>> Thanks Patrick, That must be what it is, because I still don't
> see it on my end. >>>>> How embarrassing I'm glad I didn't keep posting
> until I saw it. >>>>> <3 Val >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM, "Patrick
> K. Kroupa" wrote: >>>>>> You've actually posted it twice now. >>>>>> >>>>>>
> To see what everybody else sees, look at the archives, which are:
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ >>>>>> >>>>>> For December,
> it'd be: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html>>>>>> >>>>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point. >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There is occasional lag because the list is very large, new accounts
> are added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are automagically
> removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000 subscribers for
> half a decade or so. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lag means: it may take 3 minutes from
> the time you hit send, until the time everybody receives your message, but
> there is never a time where it'll take hours or days, unless there are
> technical problems, which can happen, but it tends to happen for everybody,
> not just one person, and is at our end. There haven't been any issues for a
> few months since we finished transitioning the list to new servers. >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not seeing your own posts can relate to either your own list
> settings -- you've told the mailing list not to send duplicate copies, and
> mail you back your own posts which are already sitting in your Sent mail
> box -- or how you've configured your email client (look in your spam
> folder, if they're in there, check them and mark them as Not Spam). >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Valarie wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > A new
> thread from me? >>>>>> > Weird, I don't see it anywhere, I see Silver's
> post asking Patrick how to post that's it. >>>>>> > Thank you for letting
> me know. >>>>>> > <3 Val >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Dec 4, 2013 8:13 AM,
> "junkboy64" wrote: >>>>>> > It posted. I saw it >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >
> From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -------- Original message -------- >>>>>> >
> From: Valarie >>>>>> > Date: 12/04/2013 8:11 AM (GMT-07:00) >>>>>> > To:
> The Ibogaine List >>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how do I get friends
> validated inside MindVox? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I created a new post
> on Monday night and it still hasn't posted. >>>>>> > So I re-sent it last
> night and it still has not posted. >>>>>> > I double checked my email, it
> shows I sent it right. >>>>>> > Is this happening to anyone else? >>>>>> >
> <3 Val >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Dec 3, 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector" wrote:
> >>>>>> > Ok duh I missed invite friends the first 15 times it got mentioned
> ;-) Thanks, that clarified a lot. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -=[) ::::::: MindVox
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> -0500 From: Pat Gallina To: The Ibogaine List Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how
> do I get friends validated inside MindVox? Message-ID: Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Val & thank you for the reply.
> Unfortunately I couldn't find anything on dose amount. Sent from my iPhone
> > On Dec 5, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Valarie wrote: > > Hi Pat, To figure out your
> dosage you can go to http://www.doraweiner.org/ > That is the foundation
> Howard Lotsof founded. > Lotsof Love, Val > >> On Dec 5, 2013 8:52 AM, "Pat
> Gallina" wrote: >> Hi friends, does anyone know what kind of dosage if I
> take ibogaine hydrochloride I don't know the amount of dosage I should take
> I am make 35 years old 180 pounds does anybody know what kind of dosage I
> should take in milligrams?? Thanks friends >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>
> On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Valarie wrote: >>> >>> Jeff, Don't scare me!
> Lol. >>> I still never found the email. Although I did see it with the link
> Patrick provided, so it must be my email account. >>>> On Dec 4, 2013 6:43
> PM, "Jeff G" wrote: >>>> I think it's an illuminati conspiracy Val.... >>>>
> Watch your back. >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>>> On Dec 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie"
> wrote: >>>>> Thanks Patrick, That must be what it is, because I still don't
> see it on my end. >>>>> How embarrassing I'm glad I didn't keep posting
> until I saw it. >>>>> <3 Val >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM, "Patrick
> K. Kroupa" wrote: >>>>>> You've actually posted it twice now. >>>>>> >>>>>>
> To see what everybody else sees, look at the archives, which are:
> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/ >>>>>> >>>>>> For December,
> it'd be: http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html>>>>>> >>>>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point. >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There is occasional lag because the list is very large, new accounts
> are added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are automagically
> removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000 subscribers for
> half a decade or so. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lag means: it may take 3 minutes from
> the time you hit send, until the time everybody receives your message, but
> there is never a time where it'll take hours or days, unless there are
> technical problems, which can happen, but it tends to happen for everybody,
> not just one person, and is at our end. There haven't been any issues for a
> few months since we finished transitioning the list to new servers. >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not seeing your own posts can relate to either your own list
> settings -- you've told the mailing list not to send duplicate copies, and
> mail you back your own posts which are already sitting in your Sent mail
> box -- or how you've configured your email client (look in your spam
> folder, if they're in there, check them and mark them as Not Spam). >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Valarie wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > A new
> thread from me? >>>>>> > Weird, I don't see it anywhere, I see Silver's
> post asking Patrick how to post that's it. >>>>>> > Thank you for letting
> me know. >>>>>> > <3 Val >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Dec 4, 2013 8:13 AM,
> "junkboy64" wrote: >>>>>> > It posted. I saw it >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >
> From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -------- Original message -------- >>>>>> >
> From: Valarie >>>>>> > Date: 12/04/2013 8:11 AM (GMT-07:00) >>>>>> > To:
> The Ibogaine List >>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how do I get friends
> validated inside MindVox? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I created a new post
> on Monday night and it still hasn't posted. >>>>>> > So I re-sent it last
> night and it still has not posted. >>>>>> > I double checked my email, it
> shows I sent it right. >>>>>> > Is this happening to anyone else? >>>>>> >
> <3 Val >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Dec 3, 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector" wrote:
> >>>>>> > Ok duh I missed invite friends the first 15 times it got mentioned
> ;-) Thanks, that clarified a lot. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -=[) ::::::: MindVox
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> -0500 From: Sergey Sibirian To: The Ibogaine List Subject: Re: [Ibogaine]
> side note on heroin music (Danielle) Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="windows-1252" Danielle, You seem to understand the difference
> between "SOUL depression" and Bio-neurological one. So yea, if you felt
> like everything is black and the walls are closing in on you, the whole
> world only wants you to suffer, etc., etc.,?.it's pretty clear that you had
> a MAJOR misbalance in your brain in terms of neurotransmitters/hormones. I
> mean, the feeling that you get when, say, a huge hairy spider crawls on
> your face LIVE or you spot your loved one fucking and moaning while he/she
> thinks you're away VS the feeling of falling in love for the first time or
> finding out that you won the lottery for 79 million dollars and the rest of
> your life you'll be doing WHATEVER this world has to offer?. Well, those
> two scenarios are part of a system of states-of-mind that everyone of us
> can experience in different depths. But if one is *ucked, and you get stuck
> with the other: "spider on your face" feeling? And all that is due to a
> chemical imbalance THAT CAN BE FIXED OR IMPROVED WITH ANTI-DEPRESSANTS????
> Go for it! Obviously? That should remain a temporary tool though while the
> underlying real cause of the misbalance is treated. I think so at least.
> Wish you well Sergey On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:27 PM, danielle yates wrote:
> > > Thanks for posting that link Vector. Very interesting... I'm still >
> learning how all of this is intertwined. > @Annette; I watched the (AIC)
> live uncut performance. It was sad because > I felt like I was watching a
> ghost. Or the last remaining remnants of what > was once a strong, vibrant,
> creative, intelligent, AND GOOOOOD LOOKING > mayaan. I also looked at his
> different photos over the years and the only > word I can think of that
> kind of describes the way he changed is "ravaged". > I'm relieved I'm
> facing things during a time period that there's real help > available
> because science and technology are starting to catch up a little > (not a
> lot; but I'll take what I can get). > I know the over all mentality is
> negative toward Methadone and other types > of "maintenance" but to have
> SOMETHING that brings stability for a long > enough amount of time for you
> to put together an informed plan of attack is > an absolute gift. > I agree
> with you about the style they administer Methadone. The only way > I got
> around that was I had legitimate health stuff and I'm pretty sure my > Doc
> was tuned in to the spiral I was engaging so he offered that as a >
> treatment for pain. Which means that I got 3 month supplies at a time. >
> I'm thankful for that; but I know that people who don't have a underlying >
> health issues have to go to a Methadone Clinic daily and subject themselves
> > to those requirements. Which corners those that want to utilize this >
> method to either lie to a doc or buy it off the streets for a RIDICULOUS >
> price. The Meth clinics make a pretty penny too. I didn't know until I >
> got on this list that the Clinics charge $85 a month just to get their >
> dose. I think I paid roughly $45-$55 for 190 pills and I only had to apps >
> that year to go to. > In the case with Layne Stayler if the dude went to
> rehab 13 times he > wanted to change. That's desperation. It sounds like
> rehab in those days > was a brow beating, feelings approach (correct me if
> I'm wrong) which is > fine if addiction was a temporary lapse of our moral
> fiber. However; now > we know that long term abuse (especially heroin and
> speed balls as was his > situation) leads to a change in your brain on a
> molecular level. Your > pleasure zone has been rewired to perceive the
> state of being "High" has > normal and when there is a lack of opiates your
> body goes completely > haywire in it's state of natural homeostasis.
> Depending on the longevity > and severity of addiction that takes a very
> long time to heal and some (not > all) may find themselves in a place where
> these types of meds give them a > quality of life they otherwise wouldn't
> have. There should not be any > shame in that. > I know the accidental
> overdoses is through the roof with Meth users > because they want the
> Euphoric feeling and such so they use on top of the > Meth. We can't
> control that. We can only give people accurate information > (which should
> go into detail of the "blocking effect" so they know using is > a waste of
> time), and what their options are after they get stable such as > a slow
> taper, aftercare, whatever. > I view methadone in the same way I view anti
> depressants. After I had my > daughter I got plowed down by sever
> Postpartum Depression. I loved my bb > and all but I TRULY THOUGHT that if
> I really loved her I would kill myself. > I thought that in the long run,
> without me around she would be better off. > I felt that my life was
> nothing but an infection on the people I love. > Bare in mind I was not
> dealing with any addictions at that time. That was > pure unadulterated
> hormonal crash-and-burn. Luckily I had a moment of > clarity enough to call
> my Doc. I asked about depression and just made some > hints. Long story
> short he prescribed me antidepressants and I feel they > saved my life. I
> was drowning. > There is a HUGE stigma attached to antidepressants too
> especially 10 yrs > ago and maybe even MORE especially among my community
> of friends because > turning to anti depressants was considered a "lack of
> faith". > Be-that-as-it may I needed EMERGENCY help and my situation was
> not getting > "prayed away". So I accepted my first script for anti
> depressants. I took > them for 6 months. After I got a strong footing I
> tapered off. However; > if for some reason what I was dealing with was
> consistent manic Depression > and I had to take antidepressants for the
> rest of my life; I would not have > felt guilty for that. > Depression as
> in Addiction in MANY ways is a medical condition. Of course > the "whole
> person" must be treated. Counseling has it's place but to make > the
> medicinal necessity unreachable is inhumane and demoralizing. Quality >
> healthcare that respects the dignity of the patient is a reasonable >
> expectation. > ------------------------------ > *From:* "
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> Monday, December 2, 2013 8:44 AM > *Subject:* Ibogaine Digest, Vol 70,
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> Ibogaine affordably? (Valerie Bird) > 3. Re: Ibogaine affordably? (Jim
> Hadey3) > 4. Re: side note on Heroin music (danielle yates) > 5. Re: side
> note on Heroin music (danielle yates) > 6. Re: side note on Heroin music
> (Annette Dilucchio) > 7. Re: side note on Heroin music (Vector Vector) > >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >
> > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 11:12:18 -0500 > From: Eddie Caceres >
> To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] eddie > Message-ID: <
> 45FE2C7F-8521-47A9-9F15-9BDD7DDD2863 at aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks Jim.. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 1,
> 2013, at 10:26 AM, Jim Hadey3 wrote: > > > > Hi Eddi, > > > > I and many
> other people took Ibo with Hep C and are alive to talk about > it. I know
> nothing about medicine but if your in mediocre health I think > you will
> make it. I did it 4 times and ta ta as you know I am still > around. Of
> course everyone is different, maybe you could find out how bad > you liver
> is then make a decision. > > > > Best, > > > > - JIM > > > > > > > >> On
> Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Eddie Caceres > wrote: > >> Thanks all for
> the kind words and the warm welcome. Yes Star still on > sub about 2-3 mg
> depends on my day don't want to go above that. I've been > since July (
> sub). I haven't considered IBO not because of my Hep c but my > finances
> and situation at home. Won't be easy breaking the news to family. > Love
> and respect to all > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Nov 30,
> 2013, at 7:42 PM, star ray > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hey Eddie, I pretty much
> have the same story you do, did some crazy > drugs when young, got pregnant
> and straight for 25 years.. had three > surgeries, right knee, left knee
> (made it through those with no pain pills > and constant pain) Finally the
> rotator cuff shoulder surgery was the > breaking point. Had to take 1
> vicoprophen to go through rehab, and then > started taking some daily. I
> never have taken a lot of anything but just > enough to mess me up, been
> battling with that for seven years and i have > hep c.......I have done
> ibogaine a few times and it always helped and also > helped my liver and
> reduced my viral load and enzymes. i am currently off > a low dose of
> suboxone (.25 mg) for about 16 days, just plain > tired....anyway good luck
> on your journey... are you still on subutex?? > >>> > >>> Val and
> junkboy.... what nice messages, you are the best > >>> > >>> peace and
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> 2013 11:17:49 -0600 > From: Valerie Bird > To: ibogaine at mindvox.com >
> Subject: [Ibogaine] Ibogaine affordably? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I'm new here. This is my first
> posting. Hope I'm doing it right. I spent 14 > years on opiates. 14 years
> of increasing hell. I've been off the hard core > opiates and in a 12 step
> program for 3.5 years now. I spent 2.5 years on > suboxone and I thought
> I'd never get off it...it sucked because I couldn't > wrap my head around
> the withdrawals. They came in later and were even > worse than the opiate
> withdrawal. I finally got off it using tramadol. > Unfortunately it took a
> lot of tramadol! I am finally off that too! I saw > an episode of Law and
> Order SVU where a heroin addict was treated with > ibogaine. .that started
> my research. I'm disgusted with the elite > capitalist bullshit reasons
> that ibogaine is not legal in the US. The > pharmaceutical manufacturers
> had all my money on opiates then on suboxone, > then tramadol..and now I
> sit 3.5 years later and I still have the damn hole > inside me that I
> started with and I'm broke!. I did the 12 steps, have a > sponsor, and got
> real involved in the recovery movement. I'm sick that > now that the
> "medical" treatment is over I still crave filling the void! I > am in
> Florida and I want ibogaine but I can't afford to turn this into a > luxury
> vacation for God's sake! I need the deep cleansing and the > emotional,
> spiritual, and intellectual insights that ibogaine can give. > Meditation
> and prayer still have not been enough. Any advise on where to > go safely
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> 2013 21:35:36 -0500 > From: Jim Hadey3 > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] Ibogaine affordably? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Val B, > > So your off the sub and
> clean now, right? I must tell you that Ibo is not > like any other kind of
> drug and can be dangerous. Learn all you can on > this forum and others
> like eboka.info and maybe check out erowid.org. It > is not like acid or
> any other drug and there is a lot to know beforehand. > For example you can
> not be taking SSRIs, SSNIs or many other drugs. It > also helps to have
> some kind of after plan like CBT, NA or whatever for it > is hard to do it
> all by yourself. You must have a good sitter for DIY does > not mean all by
> yourself. Stick around this forum for there is a lot of > experience here.
> > > Fell to ask questions all you want, > > - JIM > > > > On Sun, Dec 1,
> 2013 at 12:17 PM, Valerie Bird wrote: > > > I'm new here. This is my first
> posting. Hope I'm doing it right. I spent > > 14 years on opiates. 14 years
> of increasing hell. I've been off the hard > > core opiates and in a 12
> step program for 3.5 years now. I spent 2.5 > years > > on suboxone and I
> thought I'd never get off it...it sucked because I > > couldn't wrap my
> head around the withdrawals. They came in later and > were > > even worse
> than the opiate withdrawal. I finally got off it using > > tramadol.
> Unfortunately it took a lot of tramadol! I am finally off that > > too! I
> saw an episode of Law and Order SVU where a heroin addict was > > treated
> with ibogaine. .that started my research. I'm disgusted with the > > elite
> capitalist bullshit reasons that ibogaine is not legal in the US. > The > >
> pharmaceutical manufacturers had all my money on opiates then on >
> suboxone, > > then tramadol..and now I sit 3.5 years later and I still have
> the damn > hole > > inside me that I started with and I'm broke!. I did the
> 12 steps, have a > > sponsor, and got real involved in the recovery
> movement. I'm sick that > > now that the "medical" treatment is over I
> still crave filling the > void! I > > am in Florida and I want ibogaine but
> I can't afford to turn this into a > > luxury vacation for God's sake! I
> need the deep cleansing and the > > emotional, spiritual, and intellectual
> insights that ibogaine can give. > > Meditation and prayer still have not
> been enough. Any advise on where to > > go safely and affordably? > > > >
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> 2013 19:57:01 -0800 (PST) > From: danielle yates > To: "
> ibogaine at mindvox.com" > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] side note on Heroin music
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Okay; I have to say
> I got a HUUUUUUUGE education on the Heroin Music > forum. ?I've never used
> Heroin but I feel opiates in general are headed in > the same direction so
> I like to here or see what people that are struggling > or overcoming are
> listening to. ? > > DISCLAIMER ~ NO ONE IS ALOUD TO LAUGH AT ME!!! ? (Deep
> cleansing breath > in) ?Honest to God; I had no idea who any of them were.
> ?Mostly in regards > to never hearing their music. ?Of course I know who
> John Lennon is but I > had no idea he had a song called "Cold Turkey".
> ?Most especially ?I didn't > know who Alice In Chains are (they were around
> during my teen years). ?I > have no idea how I missed that (in my adult
> life). ?The reason for my lack > of exposure, is I was raised in a
> community very similar to the Amish as > I've mentioned before. ?For those
> who don't know what that is, it's > basically a very strict, and
> disciplined lifestyle centered around the > Christian Faith. ?I had no
> T.V., NO secular music, no pants (for females) > and all the other stuff. >
> > When I watched the AIC video I was like; "HOLY HELL WHO'S THE BEAUTIFUL >
> BLOND DUDE?" ?I mean really; he had that whole Greek God thang goin ON! ?So
> > naturally I googled his name (Layne Staley) because I wanted to stalk >
> him...er; um, I mean hear more of his music. ?; ) ? > > I CAN'T BELIEVE
> HE'S DEAD!! ?I know you all dealt with that about 10 years > ago; but let
> me have this. ?What a sad waste of friggin talent and beauty! > ?His story
> is so depressing! ?He went to 13 different rehab centers and > then gave
> up. ?At one point he told one of his band mates that; "he wasn't > coming
> back from this. ?This is it." (referring to Heroin) That statement >
> ferments and oozes despair...a despair I'm sure many of us have felt while
> > contending with the same demons. > > Clearly I need a crash course on the
> Grunge time period as I was in Church > while all that was going on (not by
> my own free will). ? Well wait; I was > in Church mostly. ?The rest of the
> time I was in Sin City learning about > all the things I wasn't supposed to
> look at. ?: D > > So this is my question: ?Was Ibogaine available or known
> in those social > circles? ?Was the concept of a "maintenance program" with
> methadone or sub > being utilized? ?Did rehabs have meds to allow for a
> detox that didn't > involve wanting to off yourself? ?Feel free to
> volunteer any pertinent > details. > > This begs the question; who has died
> or is curled up in their home, more > consumed with feeding their habit
> than getting busy with the God given > gifts they have? ?What if one of
> those fatalities would've found a cure for > Cancer? ?What if one of those
> lives could have made the difference between > war and peace in the Middle
> East Crisis? ?What about all the beautiful > babies that will never take
> their first breadth, or the love stories that > were robbed of their season
> to bloom? ?It's beyond my ability to wrap my > mind around the catastrophic
> damage that happens every where, all the time, > on a daily basis because
> of addiction. ? > > It makes me so utterly sad to think about. > > > > > >
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> > Today's Topics: > > ? 1. Re: Iboga Vissions (Valarie) > ? 2. Re: wanna
> say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice xmas, happy > ? ? ? new year and
> everything! (Valarie) > ? 3. Re: wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice
> xmas, happy > ? ? ? new year and everything! (Jeff G) > ? 4. Re: Homeland
> (Valarie) > ? 5. Re: Homeland (Nyc Labret?) > ? 6. Re: Homeland (Jim
> Hadey3) > ? 7. (no subject) (Jim Hadey3) > ? 8. eddie (star ray) > ? 9. Re:
> Homeland (Sergey Sibirian) > ? 10. Re: wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you
> all nice xmas, happy > ? ? ? new year and everything! (Sergey Sibirian) > ?
> 11. Star, Val? and all (danielle yates) > ? 12. Re: (no subject) (Sergey
> Sibirian) > ? 13. Re: Homeland (Randy Faulconer) > ? 14. Re: (no subject)
> (Randy Faulconer) > ? 15. Re: (no subject) (Jim Hadey3) > ? 16. Re: (no
> subject) (Valarie) > ? 17. Re: eddie (Eddie Caceres) > ? 18. Re: eddie (Jim
> Hadey3) > > >
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> Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 10:38:26 -0800 > From: Valarie > To:
> The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: >
> ??? > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Leo, I
> definitely agree with Sergie. > It is very dangerous to stop taking
> benzodiazepine before you do ibogaine, > do to risk of seizures. > This one
> ibogaine facility I called told me to stop taking xanex one week > before
> my treatment which is absolutely CRAZY and I told them that they > were
> going to kill someone. > Once I found out about Ibogaine I made a hard
> decision to go from Xanex to > Colonzapam.? I have had plenty of seizures
> due to benzodiazepine > withdrawal, and had to be careful. > I don't know
> if the Ibogaine helped with not needing as much but my benzo > intake has
> gone down significantly since I did my treatment. > I am actually only
> taking half of the dose which is prescribed to me, and > find it easier to
> taper since I did my ibogaine treatment. > Because I had to take the
> colonzapam during my treatment I did not have > very many visions, Ibogaine
> of course was still greatly beneficial as I am > now off opiots after 13
> years of use. > I hope to be completely off the colonzapam within 3 months
> and would like > to do Ibogaine again for spiritual purposes. > Which is
> why I asked about HCL vs TA. > > Lotsof Love,? Val > On Nov 30, 2013 7:54
> AM, "Sergey Sibirian" wrote: > > > Val, Leo > > > > Benzos addiction is by
> far the worst IN TERMS OF PHYSICAL DEPENDANCY. > > I'm not talking
> ADDICTION AS A WHOLE. > > From what I read and researched, Ibo does NOT
> reset benzo addiction. > > And it makes sense, to me at least. > > If
> opioids fuck with the endorphine system in our brain, the benzos fuck > >
> with > > Our brains much more basic system: homeostasys and GABBA. > >
> Homeostatys is basically a state of balance the brain has to maintain at >
> > any price between the "up" and "down" states. > > Between
> stimulation/action and depression/deactivation. > > And this is exactly
> what delirium tremens is: > > The brain has been long "down" stimulated by
> alcohol, which also acts on > > GABBA receptors. > > So when a person
> abruptly stops drinking, the "up" part of brain is > > active, while the
> "down" waits for alcohol to do its job. > > The result is a loss of balance
> in favor of the "up", and delirium > tremens > > sets in. > > Convulsions,
> hallucinations, and ultimately possible coma or death... > > > > With
> heroin/opioids, no matter the severity of WD, there's no danger of > >
> death. > > With GABBA agonists, such as benzos and alcohol, there is. > >
> All that to point out that benzo addiction is very serious and in my > >
> humble opinion, should NEVER be interrupted > > But rather tapered down. >
> > But then again, I'm no expert on benzo addiction, although I've >
> personally > > witnessed two persons being brought to the hospital > > In
> state of coma due to alcohol WD. > > That pretty much shocked me so I did
> some research and NEVER touch > benzos. > > > > Wish you well > > > >
> Sergey > > > > > > On Saturday, 30 November 2013, leomroz24 wrote: > > > >>
> So it did help you with the Benzo dt's? I have heard from some people > >>
> that it does not take away the withdrawals from benzo and also I have >
> heard > >> many people getting rid of there addiction since it took them to
> the > root > >> of why they had anxiety to begin with. I have been on
> benzo's for 7 > years > >> or so and have cut my dose down to about 1mg per
> day, sometimes less > but I > >> just cant seem to kick these damn things.
> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Valarie wrote: > >> > >>>
> As most of you know I did not get very many visions during my ibogaine >
> >>> treatment which was a disappointment to me. > >>> Since I did Ibogaine
> I have cut my Colonzapam intake in half from 6mgs > >>> to 3 mgs. > >>>
> Before treatment and tapering to Colonzapam? I had been on 6-14mgs of > >>>
> xanex a day for over 10years > >>> I am sure this is why bidding get very
> many visions. > >>> I plan to be off the colonzapam completely in about 3
> months and want > to > >>> do another treatment > >>> Should I get the TA
> or HCL again? > >>> My boyfriend will probably watch me since my favorite
> person in the > >>> world who treated me lives in a different state. > >>>
> I heard the TA is more for visions,? and HCL is more for the addiction >
> >>> is this true? > >>> Thanks for your continued help. > >>> Lotsof Love,?
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> 2013 11:06:43 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice > ??? xmas, happy new
> year and everything! > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Have a nice trip MiGo! > Love ya, Val > On Nov 30,
> 2013 7:39 AM, "Mi Go" wrote: > > > hey good people from the forum, > > > >
> first of all i really appreciate to be member of that forum, first time i >
> > found a forum or people with a lot of knowledge about that plant and > >
> medicine where im much interested in, its really hard often to get any > >
> usefull information! > > > > i wanna say thx for all the replies and infos
> i got til now and wish you > > all a happy xmas etc. etc. i dont know if i
> have any inet connection > there > > where i go, i have a doubt on that
> hehe, anyway i will log in, as often > its > > possible, > > > > stand
> strong and take care everybody, have fun and keep up the good work, > >
> maybe you can sent me over some positive vibes every often, i will do the >
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> 2013 11:09:01 -0800 > From: Jeff G > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
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> year and everything! > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Good luck... > Stay safe. > Freak Freely! > Peace
> > JeffG > On Nov 30, 2013 7:09 AM, "Mi Go" wrote: > > > hey good people
> from the forum, > > > > first of all i really appreciate to be member of
> that forum, first time i > > found a forum or people with a lot of
> knowledge about that plant and > > medicine where im much interested in,
> its really hard often to get any > > usefull information! > > > > i wanna
> say thx for all the replies and infos i got til now and wish you > > all a
> happy xmas etc. etc. i dont know if i have any inet connection > there > >
> where i go, i have a doubt on that hehe, anyway i will log in, as often >
> its > > possible, > > > > stand strong and take care everybody, have fun
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> 2013 11:09:36 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Wow Eddie, You have a lot going on. When I was on
> Subutex my depression got > really bad the 2nd year. I hope you continue to
> post on here, and I will > keep you in my thoughts. > Lotsof Love, Val > On
> Nov 30, 2013 7:24 AM, "Eddie Caceres" wrote: > > > Hey Serg > >? Long story
> I'll try keep it short. Was an H addict for some time used > > everything
> under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, got clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > >
> after trying countless detoxes and col turkey. Stood clean and sober thru >
> > 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had an injury in my job that required >
> shoulder > > surgery. Didn't really abuse the meds vics,Percocet. But the
> monster was > > released. And I'm hooked tried the done for a while 2mons
> 30mgs couldn't > > deal with that shit. So I tried this wonder drug subutex
> so I thought > been > > on it since about 6months 2-3mg a day even though
> my doctor wanted me on > > 8-16 a day. Can't tell you the world of
> depression I'm in. But I've been > > researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister
> and the guy that was on the Hbo > > program for ibo (vice). EKG was good
> but my liver is in bad shape (hepc > +) > > can't really afford to go to a
> clinic but most of all I can't even break > > the news to my family. I've
> been hiding my addiction. But we all know > what > > doesn't come out in
> the wash comes out in the rinse.lol. I truly respect > > you all on this
> forum and know what I have to do but drugs and > > procrastination is a
> mother -ucker. And no one in a 12 step program would > > even understand
> Ibo so I don't mention it to them. I consider myself a > > spiritual person
> and been relying on that a lot . Got a good job good > > family but
> emotionally I'm falling apart. Especially after experiencing > all > >
> those years without using. This disease is brutal to say the least. Hope >
> I > > answered your question. Feel free to ask away I'm open to suggestion.
> > P.S. > > I've been working out a bit since my shoulder is still messed
> up. I've > been > > feeling better,my appetite is getting better and
> started talking my > > vitamins again. I was big on that and had stopped.
> Or one more thing I'm > > also a diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and
> respect Ed. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM,
> Sergey Sibirian > > wrote: > > > > Hi Eddie, > > > > How do you relate to
> Ibo yourself? > > If you don't mind sharing. > > > > Wish you well > > > >
> Sergey > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres wrote: >
> > > >> > >> Hi all. I'm Eddie been following this list for a while I just
> don't > >> comment much. But respect you all. Just wanted to share that on
> last > nights > >> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main
> character Hooked > on > >> H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested
> Ibogaine and they gave it > to > >> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges
> it. Hooray. Peace > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>? -=[) ::::::: MindVox
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> Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > Yours is a more common AA/NA story than you may
> realize. > > This is anecdotal but when I was in those rooms in the late
> 80s early/mid > 90s anecdotal lore was that the highest suicide rate was
> among those with > +20 years of sobriety. > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at
> 2:09 PM, Valarie wrote: > > > Wow Eddie, You have a lot going on. When I
> was on Subutex my depression > > got really bad the 2nd year. I hope you
> continue to post on here, and I > > will keep you in my thoughts. > >
> Lotsof Love, Val > > On Nov 30, 2013 7:24 AM, "Eddie Caceres" wrote: > > >
> >> Hey Serg > >>? Long story I'll try keep it short. Was an H addict for
> some time used > >> everything under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, got
> clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > >> after trying countless detoxes and col
> turkey. Stood clean and sober > thru > >> 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had
> an injury in my job that required > shoulder > >> surgery. Didn't really
> abuse the meds vics,Percocet. But the monster was > >> released. And I'm
> hooked tried the done for a while 2mons 30mgs couldn't > >> deal with that
> shit. So I tried this wonder drug subutex so I thought > been > >> on it
> since about 6months 2-3mg a day even though my doctor wanted me on > >>
> 8-16 a day. Can't tell you the world of depression I'm in. But I've been >
> >> researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister and the guy that was on the Hbo >
> >> program for ibo (vice). EKG was good but my liver is in bad shape (hepc
> > +) > >> can't really afford to go to a clinic but most of all I can't
> even break > >> the news to my family. I've been hiding my addiction. But
> we all know > what > >> doesn't come out in the wash comes out in the
> rinse.lol. I truly respect > >> you all on this forum and know what I have
> to do but drugs and > >> procrastination is a mother -ucker. And no one in
> a 12 step program > would > >> even understand Ibo so I don't mention it to
> them. I consider myself a > >> spiritual person and been relying on that a
> lot . Got a good job good > >> family but emotionally I'm falling apart.
> Especially after experiencing > all > >> those years without using. This
> disease is brutal to say the least. > Hope I > >> answered your question.
> Feel free to ask away I'm open to suggestion. > P.S. > >> I've been working
> out a bit since my shoulder is still messed up. I've > been > >> feeling
> better,my appetite is getting better and started talking my > >> vitamins
> again. I was big on that and had stopped. Or one more thing I'm > >> also a
> diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect Ed. > >> > >> Sent from my
> iPad > >> > >> On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian > >> wrote: >
> >> > >> Hi Eddie, > >> > >> How do you relate to Ibo yourself? > >> If you
> don't mind sharing. > >> > >> Wish you well > >> > >> Sergey > >> > >> > >>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi
> all. I'm Eddie been following this list for a while I just don't > >>>
> comment much. But respect you all. Just wanted to share that on last >
> nights > >>> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main
> character > Hooked on > >>> H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested
> Ibogaine and they gave > it to > >>> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges
> it. Hooray. Peace > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>>? -=[) :::::::
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> 2013 15:06:27 -0500 > From: Jim Hadey3 > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > Hi Eddie, > > Yeah once you get hooked on opiates it
> does not take much to get it > rekindled.? Since you used to use H you know
> what the early symptoms of w/d > are and you will have cravings and have
> the urge; you could say your back > to square one but this time it will be
> a little different.? Most people no > matter how hard they try can not get
> off that wonderful Sub; they got to go > to SAOs (short acting opiates -
> perks, codiene, oxy and morphine) for 3 > months they do an Ibo detox.?
> That is you take SAOs and try to get as low > as you can get, but no Sub or
> Methadone for they are too long lasting.? If > you try and skip the SAO
> step your setting yourself up for failure.? That > is just what I have
> heard for I never been on Sub and glad. > > Best, > > ? - JIM > > > > On
> Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Nyc Labret? >wrote: > > > Yours is a more
> common AA/NA story than you may realize. > > > > This is anecdotal but when
> I was in those rooms in the late 80s early/mid > > 90s anecdotal lore was
> that the highest suicide rate was among those with > > +20 years of
> sobriety. > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Valarie wrote: > > >
> >> Wow Eddie, You have a lot going on. When I was on Subutex my depression
> > >> got really bad the 2nd year. I hope you continue to post on here, and
> I > >> will keep you in my thoughts. > >> Lotsof Love, Val > >> On Nov 30,
> 2013 7:24 AM, "Eddie Caceres" wrote: > >> > >>> Hey Serg > >>>? Long story
> I'll try keep it short. Was an H addict for some time used > >>> everything
> under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, got clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > >>>
> after trying countless detoxes and col turkey. Stood clean and sober > thru
> > >>> 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had an injury in my job that required >
> shoulder > >>> surgery. Didn't really abuse the meds vics,Percocet. But the
> monster > was > >>> released. And I'm hooked tried the done for a while
> 2mons 30mgs > couldn't > >>> deal with that shit. So I tried this wonder
> drug subutex so I thought > been > >>> on it since about 6months 2-3mg a
> day even though my doctor wanted me > on > >>> 8-16 a day. Can't tell you
> the world of depression I'm in. But I've > been > >>> researching ibo spoke
> to Buddy, Sister and the guy that was on the Hbo > >>> program for ibo
> (vice). EKG was good but my liver is in bad shape > (hepc +) > >>> can't
> really afford to go to a clinic but most of all I can't even > break > >>>
> the news to my family. I've been hiding my addiction. But we all know >
> what > >>> doesn't come out in the wash comes out in the rinse.lol. I truly
> > respect > >>> you all on this forum and know what I have to do but drugs
> and > >>> procrastination is a mother -ucker. And no one in a 12 step
> program > would > >>> even understand Ibo so I don't mention it to them. I
> consider myself a > >>> spiritual person and been relying on that a lot .
> Got a good job good > >>> family but emotionally I'm falling apart.
> Especially after > experiencing all > >>> those years without using. This
> disease is brutal to say the least. > Hope I > >>> answered your question.
> Feel free to ask away I'm open to suggestion. > P.S. > >>> I've been
> working out a bit since my shoulder is still messed up. I've > been > >>>
> feeling better,my appetite is getting better and started talking my > >>>
> vitamins again. I was big on that and had stopped. Or one more thing > I'm
> > >>> also a diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect Ed. > >>> >
> >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>> On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey
> Sibirian > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>? Hi Eddie, > >>> > >>> How do you relate
> to Ibo yourself? > >>> If you don't mind sharing. > >>> > >>> Wish you well
> > >>> > >>> Sergey > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie
> Caceres > wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi all. I'm Eddie been following this
> list for a while I just don't > >>>> comment much. But respect you all.
> Just wanted to share that on last > nights > >>>> episode of Homeland on
> Showtime showed one of the main character > Hooked on > >>>> H and going
> thru bad wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they gave > it to > >>>>
> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > >>>> Sent from my
> iPhone > >>>> > >>>>? -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands
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> 2013 15:15:46 -0500 > From: Jim Hadey3 > To: Ibogaine > Subject: [Ibogaine]
> (no subject) > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > Hi Serge, > > Google? ? reverse opiate tolerance? this
> is the first page. > > (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid
> tolerance? - Bluelight >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc..
> > .? > > > Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > I often hear people say
> the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > opioids is time without
> taking the drug, or that you can only slow the > ...(opioids) Using
> naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012 > DXM - The Opiate
> Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18, 2010 > NMDA
> antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25 posts May 5, > 2010 >
> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10, 2007 > More results
> from www.bluelight.ru > > Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to
> opiate analgesics in ... > www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > > by Y
> Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > Five patients on
> chronic opiate medication to treat low-back and leg pain > were determined
> to have developed opiate tolerance on the basis of their > failure to ... >
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... >
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > > > Oct
> 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance:
> Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and can > prevent or even reverse the
> development of tolerance to opioid ...Tolerance > - Does tolerance never
> fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > Combinations - Dandelion Root for
> Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > Addiction - Resetting a Kratom
> tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > Effects - Possible reverse tolerance? 10
> posts Jan 28, 2010 > More results from www.drugs-forum.com > > Reversing
> Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain - HealingWell.com Forum >
> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases & Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > > >
> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4 authors > I have been using opioid (tramadol,
> hydrocodone and oxycodone) for 6 years, > ... Though there are drugs to
> permanently reverse tolerance for ... > Changing concepts of opioid
> tolerance > www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > > > What
> these classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop to > opioid
> ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and rapid > reversal
> of tolerance. > Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance - Social
> Anxiety Forum > www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery ?
> Medication? > > > Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > According to this
> research video, they found that THC can synergize with > Opioids and
> decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ... > Does anything
> other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... >
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > > > Feb 8, 2006 - 16
> posts - ?11 authors > The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough "doubling" of
> opiate effects ... > effectiveness AND the prevention/reversal of tolerance
> through the use ... > [PDF] > Inhibition of opiate tolerance by
> non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue >
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? > >
> > by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > The NMDA antagonists were
> found to inhibit the development but not the > expression of opiate
> tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not > reverse tolerance. >
> This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance. It's also an opiate ...
> > www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc...?
> > > Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance. It's
> also > an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled substance in the U.S.
> but its > no longer ... > Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to
> opiate ... - ScienceDirect >
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > > by Y
> Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > Mar 27, 2003 - Five
> patients on chronic opiate medication to treat low-back > and leg pain were
> determined to have developed opiate tolerance on the > basis of ... >
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> 2013 18:42:39 -0600 > From: star ray > To: "ibogaine at mindvox.com" >
> Subject: [Ibogaine] eddie > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey Eddie, I pretty much have the same story you
> do,? did some crazy drugs > when young, got pregnant and straight for 25
> years.. had three surgeries, > right knee, left knee (made it through those
> with no pain pills and > constant pain) Finally the rotator cuff shoulder
> surgery was the breaking > point.? Had to take 1 vicoprophen to go through
> rehab, and then started > taking some daily.? I never have taken a lot of
> anything but just enough to > mess me up, been battling with that for seven
> years and i have hep > c.......I have done ibogaine a few times and it
> always helped and also > helped my liver and reduced my viral load and
> enzymes.? i am currently off > a low dose of suboxone (.25 mg)? for about
> 16 days,? just plain > tired....anyway good luck on your journey... are you
> still on subutex??? > > Val and junkboy.... what nice messages, you are the
> best > > peace and love,? STAR > > ??? ??? ??? ? ??? ??? ? > --------------
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> 2013 20:32:35 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddie, > > I hear you. > 20 years
> of sobriety is already saying a lot about you. > Every life story is
> unique, contrary to an opinion I saw above, and a > person's suffering
> cannot be measured in comparison to anothers. > That's my opinion. > > Hep
> C and Diabetes are a big weight, I can only imagine. > So does that mean
> you cannot use Ibo? > There are compounds being isolated from Iboga, which
> are BELIEVED to be > responsible for WD interuption. > MC-18 is one of
> those. > There's some interesting info about the subject on > Ibogamind.com
> > Very resourceful website: stands out from the rest FOR ME. > > I wish you
> well Eddie, we'll talk more. > > Sergey > > On Friday, 29 November 2013,
> Eddie Caceres wrote: > > > Hey Serg > >? Long story I'll try keep it short.
> Was an H addict for some time used > > everything under the sun coke, ups,
> crack, acid, got clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > > after trying countless
> detoxes and col turkey. Stood clean and sober thru > > 12 step programs for
> 21 yrs. Had an injury in my job that required > shoulder > > surgery.
> Didn't really abuse the meds vics,Percocet. But the monster was > >
> released. And I'm hooked tried the done for a while 2mons 30mgs couldn't >
> > deal with that shit. So I tried this wonder drug subutex so I thought >
> been > > on it since about 6months 2-3mg a day even though my doctor wanted
> me on > > 8-16 a day. Can't tell you the world of depression I'm in. But
> I've been > > researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister and the guy that was
> on the Hbo > > program for ibo (vice). EKG was good but my liver is in bad
> shape (hepc > +) > > can't really afford to go to a clinic but most of all
> I can't even break > > the news to my family. I've been hiding my
> addiction. But we all know > what > > doesn't come out in the wash comes
> out in the rinse.lol. I truly respect > > you all on this forum and know
> what I have to do but drugs and > > procrastination is a mother -ucker. And
> no one in a 12 step program would > > even understand Ibo so I don't
> mention it to them. I consider myself a > > spiritual person and been
> relying on that a lot . Got a good job good > > family but emotionally I'm
> falling apart. Especially after experiencing > all > > those years without
> using. This disease is brutal to say the least. Hope > I > > answered your
> question. Feel free to ask away I'm open to suggestion. > P.S. > > I've
> been working out a bit since my shoulder is still messed up. I've > been >
> > feeling better,my appetite is getting better and started talking my > >
> vitamins again. I was big on that and had stopped. Or one more thing I'm >
> > also a diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect Ed. > > > > Sent
> from my iPad > > > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian 'cvml', '
> sibirianfox at gmail.com');>> > > wrote: > > > > Hi Eddie, > > > > How do
> you relate to Ibo yourself? > > If you don't mind sharing. > > > > Wish you
> well > > > > Sergey > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie
> Caceres 'cvml', 'ebrvwarr at aol.com');> > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi all.
> I'm Eddie been following this list for a while I just don't > >> comment
> much. But respect you all. Just wanted to share that on last > nights > >>
> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main character Hooked >
> on > >> H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they
> gave it > to > >> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace >
> >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>? -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List
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> 2013 20:40:10 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice > ???
> xmas, happy new year and everything! > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Mi go, > > Mi go, mein freund! > Ich
> wunsche dir ein freuliche Weinachten und viel Spass! > > Enjoy yourself and
> the new year. > > Sergey > > On Saturday, 30 November 2013, Mi Go wrote: >
> > > hey good people from the forum, > > > > first of all i really
> appreciate to be member of that forum, first time i > > found a forum or
> people with a lot of knowledge about that plant and > > medicine where im
> much interested in, its really hard often to get any > > usefull
> information! > > > > i wanna say thx for all the replies and infos i got
> til now and wish you > > all a happy xmas etc. etc. i dont know if i have
> any inet connection > there > > where i go, i have a doubt on that hehe,
> anyway i will log in, as often > its > > possible, > > > > stand strong and
> take care everybody, have fun and keep up the good work, > > maybe you can
> sent me over some positive vibes every often, i will do the > > same!! > >
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> 2013 10:51:53 -0800 (PST) > From: danielle yates > To: "
> ibogaine at mindvox.com" > Subject: [Ibogaine] Star, Val? and all >
> Message-ID: > ??? <
> 1385837513.43534.YahooMailNeo at web184302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello... > Star and Val
> thanks for the kind words, I've considered Kratom. ?Right now > it's a
> white knuckle ride with nothing...other than a face plant before >
> Thanksgiving. ?I'm under no illusions about how temporary my current state
> > of "clean" will be if I don't implement real, tangible intervention. ?All
> I > know is I'm taking bb steps...(as advised on this very forum). > > Also
> to those that shared your Thanksgiving thoughts I think you're > incredibly
> inspirational and I'm so, so, so very glad that I don't have to > be alone
> when facing major obstacles that seem overwhelming. ?If it weren't > for
> you Trail Blazers I don't think I would even attempt such a harrowing >
> journey. ? > @ Eddie, Hello and nice to meet you. > > > >
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> > Today's Topics: > > ?? 1. Re: Iboganights (junkboy) > ?? 2. Re:
> Iboganights (Valarie) > ?? 3. Re: Danielle (Valarie) > ?? 4. Re:
> Iboganights (Sergey Sibirian) > ?? 5. Re: Homeland (Valarie) > ?? 6. Anyone
> remember??? (Sergey Sibirian) > ?? 7. Re: Homeland (Sergey Sibirian) > ??
> 8. Re: Homeland (Nyc Labret?) > ?? 9. Iboga Vissions (Valarie) > ? 10. Re:
> Iboga Vissions (leomroz24) > ? 11. Re: Homeland (Eddie Caceres) > ? 12.
> wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice xmas,??? happy new > ? ? ? year
> and everything! (Mi Go) > ? 13. Re: Iboga Vissions (Sergey Sibirian) > ?
> 14. Re: IBOGA SEEDS (Chris Jenks) > > >
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> Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:43:53 -0700 > From: junkboy > To:
> The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboganights > Message-ID: > ???
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > jeffg, > im glad you
> posted being grateful. it helped me to remember how grateful i > am to not
> have that damned monkey on my back anymore. this list has helped > me a
> ton. thanks for everyone who has reached out and helped me on my > journey
> from being a drug addicted crazy person to a clean crazy person. > ibogaine
> is definitely a tool that has helped change my life. it actually > did not
> FIX me.. it just helped me along on my journey. > ?? ive learned that i
> have to do the work to help myself, to find something > that fills that
> emptiness that is inside me that wants to be filled with > drugs, self
> destructive behavior, and chaos. im working to overcome myself. > its not
> an easy process, but so far has been totally worth it. > i like quick
> fixes. well, im learning that there there are no quick fixes. > quoting
> from NA its one day at a time. > plugging away at my issues, trying to let
> go of beliefs that are not > working, and letting other people into my
> heart seems to be working for me. > other than a stint earler this year
> involving the emergency room, morphine > and a take home script of perc's,
> its been good. > i want to say thank you to everyone on this list, everyone
> who has emailed > me privately and chatted with me, my wife who can somehow
> put up with me, > my NA group, and others who have helped take this broken,
> sad, depressed > and desperate shell of a human being, and helped me to
> grow into a person > who is healing and becoming whole again. > there is
> hope. > all it takes is a little work every day. > some support > some
> love. > some taking, > some giving > some compromise, > some pain, > some
> compassion > some random acts of kindness > and a letting go of hate, self
> loathing, pride, and thinking you are the > cock of the walk. > your not..
> just human like all the rest of us.. > love you guys and gals.. > junkboy >
> > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Jeff G wrote: > > > Saw this inside
> mindvox, thought it might be something the list here > would > > like to
> see. > > Sergey?? > > > > http://iboganights.co.uk/ > > > > And happy
> thanksgiving to all of you, I'm grateful for you, this list, > and > > for
> being unsprung from my methadone habit....and for finally seeing that > >
> all the 'reasons' I had to be high were basically full of shit. > >
> Sometimes I wish I didn't, but mostly I'm really glad. > > Peace > > JeffG
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> 2013 15:12:13 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
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> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Yes, Thank you too all who have helped me get
> clean and stay clean. > Ibogaine was a big part in my recovery. > I have
> gone cold turkey plenty of times but once I had been on Methadone >
> maintenance then Sub maintenance then methadone again then Sub again all of
> > these maintenance for 12 years left me to afraid to detox. > If it were
> not for Ibogaine I would have never got off that merry go round. > In order
> for me to stay clean I am going to an outpatient program from > 10-1pm then
> I go to a place called the Wellness Center from 1-5pm and it > gets dark so
> early now because of daylights savings it's already dark by > 5pm, > I go
> home have dinner then go to bed, so my day is now full. Before I could >
> not stop thinking about getting high, Now I am keeping myself busy. You all
> > kept telling me but I was being lazy . > Thank you to everyone on this
> list. I could not have gotten sober without > you. > Now I get to go on
> here to keep my recovery going with all your help and > help others by
> sharing my experience. You can get off Methadone! You can > get off Sub! >
> You don't need to go back to heroin and end up dying to do ibogaine you can
> > use kratom for that short time. Then depending on how your provider feels
> > detox from that or they might put you on a SAO for a couple days. Then >
> Ibogaine!!!!! > Don't let the 3 months scare you. > Love you all. > Lotsof
> Love, Val > On Nov 29, 2013 11:28 AM, "junkboy" wrote: > > > jeffg, > > im
> glad you posted being grateful. it helped me to remember how grateful > i >
> > am to not have that damned monkey on my back anymore. this list has >
> helped > > me a ton. thanks for everyone who has reached out and helped me
> on my > > journey from being a drug addicted crazy person to a clean crazy
> person. > > ibogaine is definitely a tool that has helped change my life.
> it actually > > did not FIX me.. it just helped me along on my journey. >
> >? ? ive learned that i have to do the work to help myself, to find > >
> something that fills that emptiness that is inside me that wants to be > >
> filled with drugs, self destructive behavior, and chaos. im working to > >
> overcome myself. its not an easy process, but so far has been totally >
> worth > > it. > > i like quick fixes. well, im learning that there there
> are no quick > fixes. > > quoting from NA its one day at a time. > >
> plugging away at my issues, trying to let go of beliefs that are not > >
> working, and letting other people into my heart seems to be working for >
> me. > > other than a stint earler this year involving the emergency room, >
> morphine > > and a take home script of perc's, its been good. > > i want to
> say thank you to everyone on this list, everyone who has > emailed > > me
> privately and chatted with me, my wife who can somehow put up with me, > >
> my NA group, and others who have helped take this broken, sad, depressed >
> > and desperate shell of a human being, and helped me to grow into a person
> > > who is healing and becoming whole again. > > there is hope. > > all it
> takes is a little work every day. > > some support > > some love. > > some
> taking, > > some giving > > some compromise, > > some pain, > > some
> compassion > > some random acts of kindness > > and a letting go of hate,
> self loathing, pride, and thinking you are the > > cock of the walk. > >
> your not.. just human like all the rest of us.. > > love you guys and
> gals.. > > junkboy > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Jeff G
> wrote: > > > >> Saw this inside mindvox, thought it might be something the
> list here > >> would like to see. > >> Sergey?? > >> > >>
> http://iboganights.co.uk/ > >> > >> And happy thanksgiving to all of you,
> I'm grateful for you, this list, > >> and for being unsprung from my
> methadone habit....and for finally seeing > >> that all the 'reasons' I had
> to be high were basically full of shit. > >> Sometimes I wish I didn't, but
> mostly I'm really glad. > >> Peace > >> JeffG > >> > >> > >>?? -=[) :::::::
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> 2013 15:24:05 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] Danielle > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Daniel, I don't know if you have looked into this
> but it is safer then > going on pills that will be abused and not to
> mention expensive, or go to > heroin. > Kratomassociation.org > I know of a
> few people personally who are staying off Methadone this way, > and I
> personally used it to help me get off Subutex, untill I had a > seizure.?
> If you have a history of seizures high doses of Kratom can make > you
> easily seizure susceptible. > Lotsof Love, Val > On Nov 28, 2013 5:33 PM,
> "star ray" wrote: > > > > > Wow Danielle, thanks for sharing your
> story....you have been through > > alot... now personally i am not sure how
> long you have to be off > methadone > > to have a successful ibogaine
> treatment but i am sure someone on this > list > > knows... I think
> ibogaine is definitely a good idea for you... whatever > you > > do, if
> ibogaine is your plan, do not go back on methadone or suboxone!!!! > > > >
> Happy Thanksgiving, gotta go , my son and i are bonding over a movie > > >
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> 2013 21:06:46 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboganights > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Jeff, > > Very interesting! > I
> understand it's the guy's website,-David Graham Scott,- the one who made >
> the movie "Detox or Die" > > There's one thing I find funny. > At the
> "home" page, if you let the pics slide by, the last pic to appear, > it's a
> guy, Iain. > But he looks like he just OD'd on smack and has foam and like
> clouded eyes! > ? > :D > > I really respect that David Graham Scott
> character. > He's a smart fella, and he really put his Ibo EXP to everyones
> benefit. > > Wish you well > > Sergey > > > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:55
> PM, Jeff G wrote: > > > Saw this inside mindvox, thought it might be
> something the list here > would > > like to see. > > Sergey?? > > > >
> http://iboganights.co.uk/ > > > > And happy thanksgiving to all of you,
> I'm grateful for you, this list, > and > > for being unsprung from my
> methadone habit....and for finally seeing that > > all the 'reasons' I had
> to be high were basically full of shit. > > Sometimes I wish I didn't, but
> mostly I'm really glad. > > Peace > > JeffG > > > > > >?? -=[) :::::::
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> 2013 18:29:37 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
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> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddie: ) > On Nov 25, 2013 10:59 AM, "Eddie
> Caceres" wrote: > > > > > Hi all. I'm Eddie been following this list for a
> while I just don't > > comment much. But respect you all. Just wanted to
> share that on last > nights > > episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one
> of the main character Hooked > on > > H and going thru bad wds so someone
> suggested Ibogaine and they gave it > to > > him. At least Hollywood
> acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >?? -=[)
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> 2013 21:38:03 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: [Ibogaine] Anyone remember??? > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hi crowd, > > A few weeks ago I was
> researching all kinds > of molecules THAT REVERSE TOLERANCE. > > Proglumide
> is a top example, > but there were much more. > > All kinds of compounds
> that have different medical uses, usually > not at all associated with
> substance abuse? > > CAN ANYONE REMEMBER THE NAMES? > I would really
> appreciate since I lost track and can't find any? > > Thanks! > > Sergey >
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> 2013 22:36:35 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddie, > > How do you relate to Ibo
> yourself? > If you don't mind sharing. > > Wish you well > > Sergey > > >
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres wrote: > > > > > Hi all. I'm
> Eddie been following this list for a while I just don't > > comment much.
> But respect you all. Just wanted to share that on last > nights > > episode
> of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main character Hooked > on > > H
> and going thru bad wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they gave it > to
> > > him. At least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > > Sent from my
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> 2013 22:46:19 -0500 > From: Nyc Labret? > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > I edited out all the sideplots and posted the entire
> sequence here, > >
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rvyytmfum5pkl99/BrodyTreatedWithIbogaineOnHL.movfeel> free to pass along the link or download it. > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at
> 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres wrote: > > > > > Hi all. I'm Eddie been following
> this list for a while I just don't > > comment much. But respect you all.
> Just wanted to share that on last > nights > > episode of Homeland on
> Showtime showed one of the main character Hooked > on > > H and going thru
> bad wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they gave it > to > > him. At
> least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > > Sent from my iPhone > >
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> 2013 23:48:22 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > As most of you know I did not get very many
> visions during my ibogaine > treatment which was a disappointment to me. >
> Since I did Ibogaine I have cut my Colonzapam intake in half from 6mgs to 3
> > mgs. > Before treatment and tapering to Colonzapam? I had been on 6-14mgs
> of xanex > a day for over 10years > I am sure this is why bidding get very
> many visions. > I plan to be off the colonzapam completely in about 3
> months and want to do > another treatment > Should I get the TA or HCL
> again? > My boyfriend will probably watch me since my favorite person in
> the world > who treated me lives in a different state. > I heard the TA is
> more for visions,? and HCL is more for the addiction is > this true? >
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> 2013 05:00:30 -0600 > From: leomroz24 > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > So it did help you with the Benzo
> dt's? I have heard from some people that > it does not take away the
> withdrawals from benzo and also I have heard many > people getting rid of
> there addiction since it took them to the root of why > they had anxiety to
> begin with. I have been on benzo's for 7 years or so > and have cut my dose
> down to about 1mg per day, sometimes less but I just > cant seem to kick
> these damn things. > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Valarie wrote: >
> > > As most of you know I did not get very many visions during my ibogaine
> > > treatment which was a disappointment to me. > > Since I did Ibogaine I
> have cut my Colonzapam intake in half from 6mgs to > > 3 mgs. > > Before
> treatment and tapering to Colonzapam? I had been on 6-14mgs of > > xanex a
> day for over 10years > > I am sure this is why bidding get very many
> visions. > > I plan to be off the colonzapam completely in about 3 months
> and want to > > do another treatment > > Should I get the TA or HCL again?
> > > My boyfriend will probably watch me since my favorite person in the
> world > > who treated me lives in a different state. > > I heard the TA is
> more for visions,? and HCL is more for the addiction is > > this true? > >
> Thanks for your continued help. > > Lotsof Love,? Val > > > > > >?? -=[)
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> 2013 23:30:26 -0500 > From: Eddie Caceres > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: <
> 459AC0AD-8376-4C98-BFF1-10FAC9902D46 at aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="us-ascii" > > Hey Serg > Long story I'll try keep it short. Was an
> H addict for some time used > everything under the sun coke, ups, crack,
> acid, got clean in 1990 ( rehab) > after trying countless detoxes and col
> turkey. Stood clean and sober thru > 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had an
> injury in my job that required shoulder > surgery. Didn't really abuse the
> meds vics,Percocet. But the monster was > released. And I'm hooked tried
> the done for a while 2mons 30mgs couldn't > deal with that shit. So I tried
> this wonder drug subutex so I thought been > on it since about 6months
> 2-3mg a day even though my doctor wanted me on > 8-16 a day. Can't tell you
> the world of depression I'm in. But I've been > researching ibo spoke to
> Buddy, Sister and the guy that was on the Hbo > program for ibo (vice). EKG
> was good but my liver is in bad shape (hepc +) > can't really afford to go
> to a clinic but most of all I can't even break > the news to my family.
> I've been hiding my addiction. But we all know what > doesn't > come out in
> the wash comes out i > n the rinse.lol. I truly respect you all on this
> forum and know what I > have to do but drugs and procrastination is a
> mother -ucker. And no one in > a 12 step program would even understand Ibo
> so I don't mention it to them. > I consider myself a spiritual person and
> been relying on that a lot . Got a > good job good family but emotionally
> I'm falling apart. Especially after > experiencing all those years without
> using. This disease is brutal to say > the least. Hope I answered your
> question. Feel free to ask away I'm open to > suggestion. P.S. I've been
> working out a bit since my shoulder is still > messed up. I've been feeling
> better,my appetite is getting better and > started talking my vitamins
> again. I was big on that and had stopped. Or > one more thing I'm also a
> diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect > Ed. > > Sent from my iPad
> > > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian > wrote: > > > > Hi
> Eddie, > > > > How do you relate to Ibo yourself? > > If you don't mind
> sharing. > > > > Wish you well > > > > Sergey > > > > > >> On Mon, Nov 25,
> 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres > wrote: > >> > >> Hi all. I'm Eddie been
> following this list for a while I just don't > comment much. But respect
> you all. Just wanted to share that on last nights > episode of Homeland on
> Showtime showed one of the main character Hooked on > H and going thru bad
> wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they gave it to > him. At least
> Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> >
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> 2013 13:15:42 +0100 > From: Mi Go > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> [Ibogaine] wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice xmas, > ??? happy new
> year and everything! > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > hey good people from the forum, > > first of all i
> really appreciate to be member of that forum, first time i > found a forum
> or people with a lot of knowledge about that plant and > medicine where im
> much interested in, its really hard often to get any > usefull information!
> > > i wanna say thx for all the replies and infos i got til now and wish
> you > all a happy xmas etc. etc. i dont know if i have any inet connection
> there > where i go, i have a doubt on that hehe, anyway i will log in, as
> often its > possible, > > stand strong and take care everybody, have fun
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> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Val, Leo > > Benzos addiction is by
> far the worst IN TERMS OF PHYSICAL DEPENDANCY. > I'm not talking ADDICTION
> AS A WHOLE. > >From what I read and researched, Ibo does NOT reset benzo
> addiction. > And it makes sense, to me at least. > If opioids fuck with the
> endorphine system in our brain, the benzos fuck > with > Our brains much
> more basic system: homeostasys and GABBA. > Homeostatys is basically a
> state of balance the brain has to maintain at > any price between the "up"
> and "down" states. > Between stimulation/action and
> depression/deactivation. > And this is exactly what delirium tremens is: >
> The brain has been long "down" stimulated by alcohol, which also acts on >
> GABBA receptors. > So when a person abruptly stops drinking, the "up" part
> of brain is active, > while the "down" waits for alcohol to do its job. >
> The result is a loss of balance in favor of the "up", and delirium tremens
> > sets in. > Convulsions, hallucinations, and ultimately possible coma or
> death... > > With heroin/opioids, no matter the severity of WD, there's no
> danger of > death. > With GABBA agonists, such as benzos and alcohol, there
> is. > All that to point out that benzo addiction is very serious and in my
> humble > opinion, should NEVER be interrupted > But rather tapered down. >
> But then again, I'm no expert on benzo addiction, although I've personally
> > witnessed two persons being brought to the hospital > In state of coma
> due to alcohol WD. > That pretty much shocked me so I did some research and
> NEVER touch benzos. > > Wish you well > > Sergey > > > On Saturday, 30
> November 2013, leomroz24 wrote: > > > So it did help you with the Benzo
> dt's? I have heard from some people > that > > it does not take away the
> withdrawals from benzo and also I have heard > many > > people getting rid
> of there addiction since it took them to the root of > why > > they had
> anxiety to begin with. I have been on benzo's for 7 years or so > > and
> have cut my dose down to about 1mg per day, sometimes less but I just > >
> cant seem to kick these damn things. > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at
> 1:48 AM, Valarie 'cvml', 'val.needis at gmail.com');> > > > wrote: > > > >>
> As most of you know I did not get very many visions during my ibogaine > >>
> treatment which was a disappointment to me. > >> Since I did Ibogaine I
> have cut my Colonzapam intake in half from 6mgs > to > >> 3 mgs. > >>
> Before treatment and tapering to Colonzapam? I had been on 6-14mgs of > >>
> xanex a day for over 10years > >> I am sure this is why bidding get very
> many visions. > >> I plan to be off the colonzapam completely in about 3
> months and want to > >> do another treatment > >> Should I get the TA or
> HCL again? > >> My boyfriend will probably watch me since my favorite
> person in the > world > >> who treated me lives in a different state. > >>
> I heard the TA is more for visions,? and HCL is more for the addiction > is
> > >> this true? > >> Thanks for your continued help. > >> Lotsof Love,? Val
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> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] IBOGA SEEDS > Message-ID: > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" > > > ?? Dear Friends,
> > > ?? I'm in the middle of purchasing iboga seeds from Emmanuel Lih. His >
> price > is typical, and one advantage is that his seeds come from
> cultivated > plants so their harvest won't interfere with wild iboga
> propagation. These > were paid for October 22nd but shipping to South
> Africa is very slow and I > didn't suspect a problem until November 16th,
> when the package had to be > resent because of a problem at the Cameroon
> post office. That problem made > us even, since Emmanuel was hassled when
> picking up payment because > Western Union charged me dollars when I
> clearly specified euros on the > form. > > ?? From the start I intended to
> write a complete report of my seed > purchasing experiences once my
> transactions are complete, but wanted to > post what I have in response to
> this thread. > > ?? I don't recommend having the seeds come in the pods
> because iboga seems > to stay viable even when dried and the pods are
> likely to spoil before > arriving from Cameroon, or get unwanted attention
> from customs. The > viability of fresh but separated seeds from
> CerberusExtract.com has been > over 50%. > > ?? There is a lot of recent
> information about growing iboga on facebook if > anyone is planning to
> study this seriously. If you want to start with the > discussions on my
> page my facebook id is chris.jenks.129 > > ?? Yours, > > ? ?? Chris > > On
> Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Valarie wrote: > > > YES! > > > > On Nov 28, 2013 12:33
> PM, "Sergey Sibirian" > wrote: > >? ? ?? Emmanuel, > > seeds to plant... >
> > Of course! > > I mean, I would love to,? > > but I don't want to impose
> or intrude? > > I'm kind of new here. > > > > Sergey > > > > > > On Wed,
> Nov 20, 2013 at 10:45 AM, M. Emmanuel Lih > wrote: > > > >? ? ?? I have
> seeds harvested. Anybody needs to plant??? > > > > > > > >? ? ?? ? -=[)
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> 2013 00:47:21 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject) > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Jim! > > I just put a bright star next to
> this particular thread. > SO i can easily spot itpo > Honestly though, what
> you did, the research you carried out is simply > priceless. > Or there is
> a price: HOURS OF MY TIME. > > Plus, to be able to spot the right/mot
> relevant info is nothing short of > serious skill > > Thanks agsin. > >
> Sergey > > So I'm early grateful. > I'll go through every link > > > On
> Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 wrote: > > > > > Hi Serge, > > > >
> Google? ? reverse opiate tolerance? this is the first page. > > > >
> (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight > > >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > > ? > > > > > > Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > > I often
> hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > > opioids is
> time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the > >
> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012 > >
> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18, >
> 2010 > > NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25 posts
> May 5, > > 2010 > > Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10,
> 2007 > > More results from www.bluelight.ru > > > > Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics in ... > >
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > > > > by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > > Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat low-back and leg pain > > were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance on the basis of their > > failure to ... > >
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... > >
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > > > > > >
> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > > Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance:
> Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and > > can prevent or even reverse the
> development of tolerance to opioid > > ...Tolerance - Does tolerance never
> fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > > Combinations - Dandelion Root for
> Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > > Addiction - Resetting a Kratom
> tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > > Effects - Possible reverse tolerance? 10
> posts Jan 28, 2010 > > More results from www.drugs-forum.com > > > >
> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain - HealingWell.com Forum > >
> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases & Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > > > >
> > > May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4 authors > > I have been using opioid
> (tramadol, hydrocodone and oxycodone) for 6 > > years, ... Though there are
> drugs to permanently reverse tolerance for > ... > > Changing concepts of
> opioid tolerance > > www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >
> > > > > What these classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop
> to > > opioid ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and
> rapid > > reversal of tolerance. > > Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse
> tolerance - Social Anxiety Forum > > www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ?
> Recovery ? Medication? > > > > > > Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > >
> According to this research video, they found that THC can synergize with >
> > Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ... > >
> Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... > >
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > > > > > > Feb 8,
> 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > > The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough
> "doubling" of opiate effects ... > > effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use > ... > > [PDF] > >
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue > >
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? > >
> > > > > by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > > The NMDA antagonists
> were found to inhibit the development but not the > > expression of opiate
> tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not > > reverse tolerance. >
> > This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance. It's also an opiate >
> ... > >
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc.. >
> .? > > > > Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance.
> It's > also > > an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled substance in
> the U.S. but > its > > no longer ... > > Tryptophan loading may reverse
> tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect > >
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > > > > by Y
> Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > > Mar 27, 2003 -
> Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat > > low-back and leg
> pain were determined to have developed opiate tolerance > on > > the basis
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> 2013 03:08:52 -0500 > From: Randy Faulconer > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > ? ? ? Hello Eddie, your story sounds a
> lot > like..........................well......................all of us. I
> went > through interferon for hep C, have had hep B twice, had major colon
> surgery > for God knows what reason (I once did a gig with a colostomy bag
> hanging > off of me and took a dump while playing the keyboard part to
> Material Girl) > and thanx to this list I am still here to tell the tale.
> We all hang > together and give each other all the love we can express over
> the internet. > You are most def in the right place. Don't give up on
> trying to find a way > to better yourself. I have never seen anybody with a
> liver so bad that they > were refused an Ibogaine treatment. Heart
> problems? Yea that will scare > providers away. But I have heard of people
> being yellow from liver problems > and still got healthy enough to do an
> Ibo treatment. Ask for help, take > milk thistle, talk to a liver expert,
> anything you can do to get yourself > in a position to be able to get the
> help you need. > > ? ? What do your liver panels look like? I'm not saying
> that you should > ignore the blood work, just make sure that you get more
> then one opinion > about whether you can handle an Ibogaine treatment.
> There are some really > good clinics that have docs willing to work with
> problems like this.Check > around, you might be surprised at just what is
> available to you. > > ? ? ? ? I know, money is always the biggest problem,
> just stick around here > and get to know people. Things just might come
> around for you. Even if you > have to hang around here for ever, it could
> be worse, we even make each > other laugh from time to time so what do you
> have to lose? > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Peace Love and The Underground > ? ? ? ? ?
> ? ? ? ? ? Randy > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? BiscuitBoy Blues > > > On Sat,
> Nov 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > > > Hi Eddie, > > > > I
> hear you. > > 20 years of sobriety is already saying a lot about you. > >
> Every life story is unique, contrary to an opinion I saw above, and a > >
> person's suffering cannot be measured in comparison to anothers. > > That's
> my opinion. > > > > Hep C and Diabetes are a big weight, I can only
> imagine. > > So does that mean you cannot use Ibo? > > There are compounds
> being isolated from Iboga, which are BELIEVED to be > > responsible for WD
> interuption. > > MC-18 is one of those. > > There's some interesting info
> about the subject on > > Ibogamind.com > > Very resourceful website: stands
> out from the rest FOR ME. > > > > I wish you well Eddie, we'll talk more. >
> > > > Sergey > > > > On Friday, 29 November 2013, Eddie Caceres wrote: > >
> > >> Hey Serg > >>? Long story I'll try keep it short. Was an H addict for
> some time used > >> everything under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, got
> clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > >> after trying countless detoxes and col
> turkey. Stood clean and sober > thru > >> 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had
> an injury in my job that required > shoulder > >> surgery. Didn't really
> abuse the meds vics,Percocet. But the monster was > >> released. And I'm
> hooked tried the done for a while 2mons 30mgs couldn't > >> deal with that
> shit. So I tried this wonder drug subutex so I thought > been > >> on it
> since about 6months 2-3mg a day even though my doctor wanted me on > >>
> 8-16 a day. Can't tell you the world of depression I'm in. But I've been >
> >> researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister and the guy that was on the Hbo >
> >> program for ibo (vice). EKG was good but my liver is in bad shape (hepc
> > +) > >> can't really afford to go to a clinic but most of all I can't
> even break > >> the news to my family. I've been hiding my addiction. But
> we all know > what > >> doesn't come out in the wash comes out in the
> rinse.lol. I truly respect > >> you all on this forum and know what I have
> to do but drugs and > >> procrastination is a mother -ucker. And no one in
> a 12 step program > would > >> even understand Ibo so I don't mention it to
> them. I consider myself a > >> spiritual person and been relying on that a
> lot . Got a good job good > >> family but emotionally I'm falling apart.
> Especially after experiencing > all > >> those years without using. This
> disease is brutal to say the least. > Hope I > >> answered your question.
> Feel free to ask away I'm open to suggestion. > P.S. > >> I've been working
> out a bit since my shoulder is still messed up. I've > been > >> feeling
> better,my appetite is getting better and started talking my > >> vitamins
> again. I was big on that and had stopped. Or one more thing I'm > >> also a
> diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect Ed. > >> > >> Sent from my
> iPad > >> > >> On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian > >> wrote: >
> >> > >> Hi Eddie, > >> > >> How do you relate to Ibo yourself? > >> If you
> don't mind sharing. > >> > >> Wish you well > >> > >> Sergey > >> > >> > >>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi
> all. I'm Eddie been following this list for a while I just don't > >>>
> comment much. But respect you all. Just wanted to share that on last >
> nights > >>> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main
> character > Hooked on > >>> H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested
> Ibogaine and they gave > it to > >>> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges
> it. Hooray. Peace > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>>? -=[) :::::::
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> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject) > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Jim is the man > > Randy > > > On Sun, Dec
> 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > > > Jim! > > > > I just put
> a bright star next to this particular thread. > > SO i can easily spot itpo
> > > Honestly though, what you did, the research you carried out is simply >
> > priceless. > > Or there is a price: HOURS OF MY TIME. > > > > Plus, to be
> able to spot the right/mot relevant info is nothing short of > > serious
> skill > > > > Thanks agsin. > > > > Sergey > > > > So I'm early grateful. >
> > I'll go through every link > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM,
> Jim Hadey3 wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi Serge, > >> > >> Google? ? reverse
> opiate tolerance? this is the first page. > >> > >> (opioids) Is it
> possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight > >> > >> >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > >> ? > >> > >> > >> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > >> I
> often hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > >>
> opioids is time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the > >>
> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012 > >>
> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18, >
> 2010 > >> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25 posts
> May 5, > >> 2010 > >> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10,
> 2007 > >> More results from www.bluelight.ru > >> > >> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics in ... > >>
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > >> > >> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >> Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat low-back and leg > pain > >> were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance on the basis of their > >> failure to ... > >>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... > >>
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > >> > >> >
> >> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > >> Pharmacology - Opioid
> Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and > >> can prevent or even
> reverse the development of tolerance to opioid > >> ...Tolerance - Does
> tolerance never fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > >> Combinations -
> Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > >> Addiction -
> Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > >> Effects - Possible
> reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, 2010 > >> More results from
> www.drugs-forum.com > >> > >> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain -
> HealingWell.com Forum > >> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases &
> Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > >> > >> > >> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4
> authors > >> I have been using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and oxycodone)
> for 6 > >> years, ... Though there are drugs to permanently reverse
> tolerance for > ... > >> Changing concepts of opioid tolerance > >>
> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >> > >> > >> What these
> classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop to > >> opioid
> ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and rapid > >>
> reversal of tolerance. > >> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance -
> Social Anxiety Forum > >> www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery ?
> Medication? > >> > >> > >> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > >>
> According to this research video, they found that THC can synergize with >
> >> Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ... >
> >> Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... > >>
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > >> > >> > >> Feb 8,
> 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > >> The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough
> "doubling" of opiate effects ... > >> effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use > ... > >> [PDF] > >>
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue > >>
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? >
> >> > >> > >> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > >> The NMDA
> antagonists were found to inhibit the development but not the > >>
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not > >>
> reverse tolerance. > >> This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance.
> It's also an opiate > ... > >>
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc.. >
> .? > >> > >> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. It's > >> also an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled
> substance in the U.S. > >> but its no longer ... > >> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect > >>
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > >> > >> by
> Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >> Mar 27, 2003 -
> Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat > >> low-back and leg
> pain were determined to have developed opiate > tolerance on > >> the basis
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> Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject) > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > I saw that film you posted a link to and it was pretty
> good.? It was not > bad when you take it but when you come out of it maybe
> 20 hours later you > may feel rough or you may have the Ibo glow.? 24 or so
> hours after you take > you don't feel that great but not that bad
> considering you have just been > through a detox.? I put it like this you
> will go from the worst flu in the > world to a bad cold.? When ya got a
> cold ya just gotta hack it. > > As far as being scared it is not a scared
> feeling like spiders and snakes. > I seen something I wanted to change and
> I asked that it be changed and it > asked what to and I said whatever you
> think I need and the vision changed. > I am surprised the guy had a ECG
> done also he went from met to Ibo which > can be pretty rough and sometimes
> dangerous.? I believed he said something > about the QT syndrome can't say
> for sure. > > Hey Sis? do you have any idea if a person has Prolonger QT
> Syndrome how > long should you wait before taking to the hospital and how
> would a person > know - just curious.? That was a nice video Serge posted a
> link to, short > and pretty informative.? It did seem to imply that after a
> couple of days > he was alright.? For me the effects lasted a good week or
> two.? I am not > saying I was buzzing around but knew it would be better to
> stay in the > house and not drive.? It also affected my eating habits as
> cutting down 95% > on sugar like ice cream and cola mainly. > > Best, > > ?
> - JIM > > > > On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > >
> > Jim! > > > > I just put a bright star next to this particular thread. > >
> SO i can easily spot itpo > > Honestly though, what you did, the research
> you carried out is simply > > priceless. > > Or there is a price: HOURS OF
> MY TIME. > > > > Plus, to be able to spot the right/mot relevant info is
> nothing short of > > serious skill > > > > Thanks agsin. > > > > Sergey > >
> > > So I'm early grateful. > > I'll go through every link > > > > > > On
> Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi Serge, >
> >> > >> Google? ? reverse opiate tolerance? this is the first page. > >> >
> >> (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight > >> >
> >> >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > >> ? > >> > >> > >> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > >> I
> often hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > >>
> opioids is time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the > >>
> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012 > >>
> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18, >
> 2010 > >> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25 posts
> May 5, > >> 2010 > >> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10,
> 2007 > >> More results from www.bluelight.ru > >> > >> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics in ... > >>
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > >> > >> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >> Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat low-back and leg > pain > >> were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance on the basis of their > >> failure to ... > >>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... > >>
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > >> > >> >
> >> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > >> Pharmacology - Opioid
> Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and > >> can prevent or even
> reverse the development of tolerance to opioid > >> ...Tolerance - Does
> tolerance never fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > >> Combinations -
> Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > >> Addiction -
> Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > >> Effects - Possible
> reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, 2010 > >> More results from
> www.drugs-forum.com > >> > >> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain -
> HealingWell.com Forum > >> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases &
> Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > >> > >> > >> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4
> authors > >> I have been using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and oxycodone)
> for 6 > >> years, ... Though there are drugs to permanently reverse
> tolerance for > ... > >> Changing concepts of opioid tolerance > >>
> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >> > >> > >> What these
> classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop to > >> opioid
> ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and rapid > >>
> reversal of tolerance. > >> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance -
> Social Anxiety Forum > >> www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery ?
> Medication? > >> > >> > >> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > >>
> According to this research video, they found that THC can synergize with >
> >> Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ... >
> >> Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... > >>
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > >> > >> > >> Feb 8,
> 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > >> The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough
> "doubling" of opiate effects ... > >> effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use > ... > >> [PDF] > >>
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue > >>
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? >
> >> > >> > >> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > >> The NMDA
> antagonists were found to inhibit the development but not the > >>
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not > >>
> reverse tolerance. > >> This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance.
> It's also an opiate > ... > >>
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc.. >
> .? > >> > >> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. It's > >> also an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled
> substance in the U.S. > >> but its no longer ... > >> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect > >>
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > >> > >> by
> Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >> Mar 27, 2003 -
> Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat > >> low-back and leg
> pain were determined to have developed opiate > tolerance on > >> the basis
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> 2013 01:03:08 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] (no subject) > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > Jim you do your homework! . > Sergie I must have missed
> the video Jim is referring to, can you repost it > or just email it to me??
> Thank you. > <3 Val > On Dec 1, 2013 12:39 AM, "Randy Faulconer" wrote: > >
> > Jim is the man > > > > Randy > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM,
> Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > > > >> Jim! > >> > >> I just put a bright star
> next to this particular thread. > >> SO i can easily spot itpo > >>
> Honestly though, what you did, the research you carried out is simply > >>
> priceless. > >> Or there is a price: HOURS OF MY TIME. > >> > >> Plus, to
> be able to spot the right/mot relevant info is nothing short of > >>
> serious skill > >> > >> Thanks agsin. > >> > >> Sergey > >> > >> So I'm
> early grateful. > >> I'll go through every link > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Nov
> 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi Serge, > >>> >
> >>> Google? ? reverse opiate tolerance? this is the first page. > >>> > >>>
> (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight > >>> >
> >>> >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > >>> ? > >>> > >>> > >>> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > >>>
> I often hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > >>>
> opioids is time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the >
> >>> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012
> > >>> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18,
> > >>> 2010 > >>> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25
> posts May 5, > >>> 2010 > >>> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts
> Jul 10, 2007 > >>> More results from www.bluelight.ru > >>> > >>>
> Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics in ... > >>>
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > >>> > >>> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >>> Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat low-back and leg > >>> pain were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance on the basis of > >>> their failure to ... > >>>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... > >>>
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > >>> > >>>
> > >>> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > >>> Pharmacology - Opioid
> Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and > >>> can prevent or even
> reverse the development of tolerance to opioid > >>> ...Tolerance - Does
> tolerance never fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > >>> Combinations -
> Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > >>> Addiction -
> Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > >>> Effects - Possible
> reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, 2010 > >>> More results from
> www.drugs-forum.com > >>> > >>> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain
> - HealingWell.com Forum > >>> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases &
> Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > >>> > >>> > >>> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4
> authors > >>> I have been using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and
> oxycodone) for 6 > >>> years, ... Though there are drugs to permanently
> reverse tolerance for > ... > >>> Changing concepts of opioid tolerance >
> >>> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >>> > >>> > >>>
> What these classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop to > >>>
> opioid ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and rapid > >>>
> reversal of tolerance. > >>> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance -
> Social Anxiety Forum > >>> www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery
> ? Medication? > >>> > >>> > >>> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > >>>
> According to this research video, they found that THC can synergize > with
> > >>> Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ...
> > >>> Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... > >>>
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > >>> > >>> > >>> Feb
> 8, 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > >>> The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a
> rough "doubling" of opiate effects ... > >>> effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use > ... > >>> [PDF] > >>>
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue > >>>
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? >
> >>> > >>> > >>> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > >>> The NMDA
> antagonists were found to inhibit the development but not the > >>>
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not >
> >>> reverse tolerance. > >>> This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. It's also an opiate > >>> ... > >>>
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc. >
> .. > >>> ? > >>> > >>> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse
> opiate tolerance. It's > >>> also an opiate potentiator and is not a
> controlled substance in the > U.S. > >>> but its no longer ... > >>>
> Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect >
> >>> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > >>> >
> >>> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >>> Mar 27,
> 2003 - Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat > >>> low-back
> and leg pain were determined to have developed opiate > tolerance on > >>>
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> 2013 23:46:50 -0500 > From: Eddie Caceres > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] eddie > Message-ID: <
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> charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks all for the kind words and the warm welcome.
> Yes Star still on sub > about 2-3 mg depends on my day don't want to go
> above that. I've been since > July ( sub). I haven't considered IBO not
> because of my Hep c but my > finances and situation at home. Won't be easy
> breaking the news to family. > Love and respect to all > > Sent from my
> iPhone > > > On Nov 30, 2013, at 7:42 PM, star ray wrote: > > > > Hey
> Eddie, I pretty much have the same story you do,? did some crazy > drugs
> when young, got pregnant and straight for 25 years.. had three > surgeries,
> right knee, left knee (made it through those with no pain pills > and
> constant pain) Finally the rotator cuff shoulder surgery was the > breaking
> point.? Had to take 1 vicoprophen to go through rehab, and then > started
> taking some daily.? I never have taken a lot of anything but just > enough
> to mess me up, been battling with that for seven years and i have > hep
> c.......I have done ibogaine a few times and it always helped and also >
> helped my liver and reduced my viral load and enzymes.? i am currently off
> > a low dose of suboxone (.25 mg)? for about 16 days,? just plain >
> tired....anyway good luck on your journey... are you still on subutex??? >
> >? > > Val and junkboy.... what nice messages, you are the best > >? > >
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> 2013 10:26:11 -0500 > From: Jim Hadey3 > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] eddie > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddi, > > I and many other people took Ibo with
> Hep C and are alive to talk about it. > I know nothing about medicine but
> if your in mediocre health I think you > will make it.? I did it 4 times
> and ta ta as you know I am still around. > Of course everyone is different,
> maybe you could find out how bad you > liver is then make a decision. > >
> Best, > > ? - JIM > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Eddie Caceres
> wrote: > > > Thanks all for the kind words and the warm welcome. Yes Star
> still on sub > > about 2-3 mg depends on my day don't want to go above
> that. I've been > since > > July ( sub). I haven't considered IBO not
> because of my Hep c but my > > finances and situation at home. Won't be
> easy breaking the news to > family. > > Love and respect to all > > > >
> Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Nov 30, 2013, at 7:42 PM, star ray wrote: >
> > > > Hey Eddie, I pretty much have the same story you do,? did some crazy
> > drugs > > when young, got pregnant and straight for 25 years.. had three
> surgeries, > > right knee, left knee (made it through those with no pain
> pills and > > constant pain) Finally the rotator cuff shoulder surgery was
> the breaking > > point.? Had to take 1 vicoprophen to go through rehab, and
> then > > started taking some daily.? I never have taken a lot of anything
> but just > > enough to mess me up, been battling with that for seven years
> and i have > > hep c.......I have done ibogaine a few times and it always
> helped and > also > > helped my liver and reduced my viral load and
> enzymes.? i am currently > off > > a low dose of suboxone (.25 mg)? for
> about 16 days,? just plain > > tired....anyway good luck on your journey...
> are you still on subutex?? > > > > Val and junkboy.... what nice messages,
> you are the best > > > > peace and love,? STAR > > > > > > > >? -=[)
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> 2013 21:00:13 -0800 (PST) > From: danielle yates > To: "
> ibogaine at mindvox.com" > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] side note on Heroin music
> > Message-ID: > <
> 1385960413.95409.YahooMailNeo at web184306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > P.S. ?I'm thinking of
> taking down the house on Open Mic Night belting out, > "Cold Turkey" loud
> and proud which is coincidentally after the weekly PTA > meeting. ?Any
> Thoughts...? ? ? > > > > > ________________________________ > From:
> danielle yates > To: "ibogaine at mindvox.com" > Sent: Sunday, December 1,
> 2013 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: side note on Heroin music > > > > > > Okay; I
> have to say I got a HUUUUUUUGE education on the Heroin Music > forum. ?I've
> never used Heroin but I feel opiates in general are headed in > the same
> direction so I like to here or see what people that are struggling > or
> overcoming are listening to. ? > > DISCLAIMER ~ NO ONE IS ALOUD TO LAUGH AT
> ME!!! ? (Deep cleansing breath > in) ?Honest to God; I had no idea who any
> of them were. ?Mostly in regards > to never hearing their music. ?Of course
> I know who John Lennon is but I > had no idea he had a song called "Cold
> Turkey". ?Most especially ?I didn't > know who Alice In Chains are (they
> were around during my teen years). ?I > have no idea how I missed that (in
> my adult life). ?The reason for my lack > of exposure, is I was raised in a
> community very similar to the Amish as > I've mentioned before. ?For those
> who don't know what that is, it's > basically a very strict, and
> disciplined lifestyle centered around the > Christian Faith. ?I had no
> T.V., NO secular music, no pants (for females) > and all the other stuff. >
> > When I watched the AIC video I was like; "HOLY HELL WHO'S THE BEAUTIFUL >
> BLOND DUDE?" ?I mean really; he had that whole Greek God thang goin ON! ?So
> > naturally I googled his name (Layne Staley) because I wanted to stalk >
> him...er; um, I mean hear more of his music. ?; ) ? > > I CAN'T BELIEVE
> HE'S DEAD!! ?I know you all dealt with that about 10 years > ago; but let
> me have this. ?What a sad waste of friggin talent and beauty! > ?His story
> is so depressing! ?He went to 13 different rehab centers and > then gave
> up. ?At one point he told one of his band mates that; "he wasn't > coming
> back from this. ?This is it." (referring to Heroin) That statement >
> ferments and oozes despair...a despair I'm sure many of us have felt while
> > contending with the same demons. > > Clearly I need a crash course on the
> Grunge time period as I was in Church > while all that was going on (not by
> my own free will). ? Well wait; I was > in Church mostly. ?The rest of the
> time I was in Sin City learning about > all the things I wasn't supposed to
> look at. ?: D > > So this is my question: ?Was Ibogaine available or known
> in those social > circles? ?Was the concept of a "maintenance program" with
> methadone or sub > being utilized? ?Did rehabs have meds to allow for a
> detox that didn't > involve wanting to off yourself? ?Feel free to
> volunteer any pertinent > details. > > This begs the question; who has died
> or is curled up in their home, more > consumed with feeding their habit
> than getting busy with the God given > gifts they have? ?What if one of
> those fatalities would've found a cure for > Cancer? ?What if one of those
> lives could have made the difference between > war and peace in the Middle
> East Crisis? ?What about all the beautiful > babies that will never take
> their first breadth, or the love stories that > were robbed of their season
> to bloom? ?It's beyond my ability to wrap my > mind around the catastrophic
> damage that happens every where, all the time, > on a daily basis because
> of addiction. ? > > It makes me so utterly sad to think about. > > > > > >
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> > > Today's Topics: > > ? 1. Re: Iboga Vissions (Valarie) > ? 2. Re: wanna
> say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice xmas, happy > ? ? ? new year and
> everything! (Valarie) > ? 3. Re: wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice
> xmas, happy > ? ? ? new year and everything! (Jeff G) > ? 4. Re: Homeland
> (Valarie) > ? 5. Re: Homeland (Nyc Labret?) > ? 6. Re: Homeland (Jim
> Hadey3) > ? 7. (no subject) (Jim Hadey3) > ? 8. eddie (star ray) > ? 9. Re:
> Homeland (Sergey Sibirian) > ? 10. Re: wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you
> all nice xmas, happy > ? ? ? new year and everything! (Sergey Sibirian) > ?
> 11. Star, Val? and all (danielle yates) > ? 12. Re: (no subject) (Sergey
> Sibirian) > ? 13. Re: Homeland (Randy Faulconer) > ? 14. Re: (no subject)
> (Randy Faulconer) > ? 15. Re: (no subject) (Jim > Hadey3) > ? 16. Re: (no
> subject) (Valarie) > ? 17. Re: eddie (Eddie Caceres) > ? 18. Re: eddie (Jim
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> Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 10:38:26 -0800 > From: Valarie > To:
> The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: >
> ??? > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Leo, I
> definitely agree with Sergie. > It is very dangerous to stop taking
> benzodiazepine before you do > ibogaine, > do to risk of seizures. > This
> one ibogaine facility I called told me to stop taking xanex one week >
> before my treatment which is absolutely CRAZY and I told them that they >
> were going to kill someone. > Once I found out about Ibogaine I made a hard
> decision to go from Xanex to > Colonzapam.? I have had plenty of seizures
> due to benzodiazepine > withdrawal, and had to be careful. > I don't know
> if the Ibogaine helped with not needing as much but my benzo > intake has
> gone down significantly since I did my treatment. > I am actually only
> taking half of the dose which is prescribed to me, and > find it easier to
> taper since I did my ibogaine treatment. > Because I had to take the
> colonzapam during my treatment I did not have > very many visions, Ibogaine
> of course was still greatly beneficial as I am > now off opiots after 13
> years of use. > I hope to be completely off the colonzapam within 3 months
> and would like > to > do Ibogaine again for spiritual purposes. > Which is
> why I asked about HCL vs TA. > > Lotsof Love,? Val > On Nov 30, 2013 7:54
> AM, "Sergey Sibirian" wrote: > > > Val, Leo > > > > Benzos addiction is by
> far the worst IN TERMS OF PHYSICAL DEPENDANCY. > > I'm not talking
> ADDICTION AS A WHOLE. > > From what I read and researched, Ibo does NOT
> reset benzo addiction. > > And it makes sense, to me at least. > > If
> opioids fuck with the endorphine system in our brain, the benzos fuck > >
> with > > Our brains much more basic system: homeostasys and GABBA. > >
> Homeostatys is basically a state of balance the brain has to maintain at >
> > any price between the "up" and "down" states. > > Between
> stimulation/action and depression/deactivation. > > And this is exactly
> what delirium tremens > is: > > The brain has been long "down" stimulated
> by alcohol, which also acts on > > GABBA receptors. > > So when a person
> abruptly stops drinking, the "up" part of brain is > > active, while the
> "down" waits for alcohol to do its job. > > The result is a loss of balance
> in favor of the "up", and delirium > tremens > > sets in. > > Convulsions,
> hallucinations, and ultimately possible coma or death... > > > > With
> heroin/opioids, no matter the severity of WD, there's no danger of > >
> death. > > With GABBA agonists, such as benzos and alcohol, there is. > >
> All that to point out that benzo addiction is very serious and in my > >
> humble opinion, should NEVER be interrupted > > But rather tapered down. >
> > But then again, I'm no expert on benzo addiction, although I've >
> personally > > witnessed two persons being brought to the hospital > > In
> state of coma due to alcohol WD. > > That > pretty much shocked me so I did
> some research and NEVER touch benzos. > > > > Wish you well > > > > Sergey
> > > > > > > On Saturday, 30 November 2013, leomroz24 wrote: > > > >> So it
> did help you with the Benzo dt's? I have heard from some people > >> that
> it does not take away the withdrawals from benzo and also I have > heard >
> >> many people getting rid of there addiction since it took them to the >
> root > >> of why they had anxiety to begin with. I have been on benzo's for
> 7 > years > >> or so and have cut my dose down to about 1mg per day,
> sometimes less > but I > >> just cant seem to kick these damn things. > >>
> > >> > >> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Valarie wrote: > >> > >>> As
> most of you know I did not get very many visions during > my ibogaine > >>>
> treatment which was a disappointment to me. > >>> Since I did Ibogaine I
> have cut my Colonzapam intake in half from 6mgs > >>> to 3 mgs. > >>>
> Before treatment and tapering to Colonzapam? I had been on 6-14mgs of > >>>
> xanex a day for over 10years > >>> I am sure this is why bidding get very
> many visions. > >>> I plan to be off the colonzapam completely in about 3
> months and want > to > >>> do another treatment > >>> Should I get the TA
> or HCL again? > >>> My boyfriend will probably watch me since my favorite
> person in the > >>> world who treated me lives in a different state. > >>>
> I heard the TA is more for visions,? and HCL is more for the addiction >
> >>> is this true? > >>> Thanks for your continued help. > >>> Lotsof Love,?
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> 30, 2013 7:39 AM, "Mi Go" wrote: > > > hey good people from the forum, > >
> > > first of all i really appreciate to be member of that forum, first time
> i > > found a forum or people with a lot of knowledge about that plant and
> > > medicine where im much interested in, its really hard often to get any
> > > usefull information! > > > > i wanna say thx for all the replies and
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> that hehe, anyway i will log in, as often > its > > possible, > > > > stand
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> from the forum, > > > > first of all i really appreciate to be member of
> that forum, first time i > > found a forum or people with a lot of
> knowledge about that plant > and > > medicine where im much interested in,
> its really hard often to get any > > usefull information! > > > > i wanna
> say thx for all the replies and infos i got til now and wish you > > all a
> happy xmas etc. etc. i dont know if i have any inet connection > there > >
> where i go, i have a doubt on that hehe, anyway i will log in, as often >
> its > > possible, > > > > stand strong and take care everybody, have fun
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> [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain; >
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Wow Eddie, You have a lot going on. When I was on
> Subutex my depression got > really bad the 2nd year. I hope you continue to
> post on here, and I will > keep you in my thoughts. > Lotsof Love, Val > On
> Nov 30, 2013 7:24 AM, "Eddie Caceres" wrote: > > > Hey Serg > >? Long story
> I'll try keep it short. Was an H addict for some time used > > everything
> under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, got clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > >
> after trying countless detoxes and col turkey. Stood clean and sober thru >
> > 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had an injury in my job that required >
> shoulder > > surgery. Didn't really abuse the meds vics,Percocet. But the
> monster was > > released. And I'm hooked tried the done for a while 2mons
> 30mgs couldn't > > deal with that shit. So I tried this wonder drug subutex
> so I > thought been > > on it since about 6months 2-3mg a day even though
> my doctor wanted me on > > 8-16 a day. Can't tell you the world of
> depression I'm in. But I've been > > researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister
> and the guy that was on the Hbo > > program for ibo (vice). EKG was good
> but my liver is in bad shape (hepc > +) > > can't really afford to go to a
> clinic but most of all I can't even break > > the news to my family. I've
> been hiding my addiction. But we all know > what > > doesn't come out in
> the wash comes out in the rinse.lol. I truly respect > > you all on this
> forum and know what I have to do but drugs and > > procrastination is a
> mother -ucker. And no one in a 12 step program would > > even understand
> Ibo so I don't mention it to them. I consider myself a > > spiritual person
> and been relying on that a lot . Got a good job good > > family but
> emotionally I'm falling apart. Especially after > experiencing all > >
> those years without using. This disease is brutal to say the least. Hope >
> I > > answered your question. Feel free to ask away I'm open to suggestion.
> > P.S. > > I've been working out a bit since my shoulder is still messed
> up. I've > been > > feeling better,my appetite is getting better and
> started talking my > > vitamins again. I was big on that and had stopped.
> Or one more thing I'm > > also a diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and
> respect Ed. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM,
> Sergey Sibirian > > wrote: > > > > Hi Eddie, > > > > How do you relate to
> Ibo yourself? > > If you don't mind sharing. > > > > Wish you well > > > >
> Sergey > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres wrote: >
> > > >> > >> Hi all. I'm Eddie been following this list for a while I just
> don't > >> comment much. But respect you all. Just wanted to share that on
> last > nights > >> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main
> character Hooked > on > >> H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested
> Ibogaine and they gave it > to > >> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges
> it. Hooray. Peace > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>? -=[) ::::::: MindVox
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> 2013 14:45:53 -0500 > From: Nyc Labret? > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > Yours is a more common AA/NA story than you may
> realize. > > This is anecdotal but when I was in those rooms in the late
> 80s > early/mid > 90s anecdotal lore was that the highest suicide rate was
> among those with > +20 years of sobriety. > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at
> 2:09 PM, Valarie wrote: > > > Wow Eddie, You have a lot going on. When I
> was on Subutex my depression > > got really bad the 2nd year. I hope you
> continue to post on here, and I > > will keep you in my thoughts. > >
> Lotsof Love, Val > > On Nov 30, 2013 7:24 AM, "Eddie Caceres" wrote: > > >
> >> Hey Serg > >>? Long story I'll try keep it short. Was an H addict for
> some time used > >> everything under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, got
> clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > >> after trying countless detoxes and col
> turkey. Stood clean and sober > thru > >> 12 > step programs for 21 yrs.
> Had an injury in my job that required shoulder > >> surgery. Didn't really
> abuse the meds vics,Percocet. But the monster was > >> released. And I'm
> hooked tried the done for a while 2mons 30mgs couldn't > >> deal with that
> shit. So I tried this wonder drug subutex so I thought > been > >> on it
> since about 6months 2-3mg a day even though my doctor wanted me on > >>
> 8-16 a day. Can't tell you the world of depression I'm in. But I've been >
> >> researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister and the guy that was on the Hbo >
> >> program for ibo (vice). EKG was good but my liver is in bad shape (hepc
> > +) > >> can't really afford to go to a clinic but most of all I can't
> even break > >> the news to my family. I've been hiding my addiction. But
> we all know > what > >> doesn't come out in the wash comes out in the
> rinse.lol. I truly respect > >> you all on this forum and > know what I
> have to do but drugs and > >> procrastination is a mother -ucker. And no
> one in a 12 step program > would > >> even understand Ibo so I don't
> mention it to them. I consider myself a > >> spiritual person and been
> relying on that a lot . Got a good job good > >> family but emotionally I'm
> falling apart. Especially after experiencing > all > >> those years without
> using. This disease is brutal to say the least. > Hope I > >> answered your
> question. Feel free to ask away I'm open to suggestion. > P.S. > >> I've
> been working out a bit since my shoulder is still messed up. I've > been >
> >> feeling better,my appetite is getting better and started talking my > >>
> vitamins again. I was big on that and had stopped. Or one more thing I'm >
> >> also a diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect Ed. > >> > >>
> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 > PM, Sergey Sibirian
> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Eddie, > >> > >> How do you relate to Ibo
> yourself? > >> If you don't mind sharing. > >> > >> Wish you well > >> > >>
> Sergey > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres >
> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi all. I'm Eddie been following this list for a
> while I just don't > >>> comment much. But respect you all. Just wanted to
> share that on last > nights > >>> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed
> one of the main character > Hooked on > >>> H and going thru bad wds so
> someone suggested Ibogaine and they gave > it to > >>> him. At least
> Hollywood > acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>
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> Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > Hi Eddie, > > Yeah once you get hooked on opiates it
> does not take much to get it > rekindled.? Since you used to use H you know
> what the early symptoms of > w/d > are and you will have cravings and have
> the urge; you could say your back > to square one but this time it will be
> a little different.? Most people no > matter how hard they try can not get
> off that wonderful Sub; they got to go > to SAOs (short acting opiates -
> perks, codiene, oxy and morphine) for 3 > months they do an Ibo detox.?
> That is you take SAOs and try to get as low > as you can get, but no Sub or
> Methadone for they are too long lasting.? If > you try and skip the SAO
> step your setting yourself up for failure.? That > is just what I have
> heard for I never been on Sub and glad. > > Best, > > ? - JIM > > > > On
> Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Nyc Labret? >wrote: > > > Yours is a more
> common AA/NA story than you may realize. > > > > This is anecdotal but >
> when I was in those rooms in the late 80s early/mid > > 90s anecdotal lore
> was that the highest suicide rate was among those with > > +20 years of
> sobriety. > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Valarie wrote: > > >
> >> Wow Eddie, You have a lot going on. When I was on Subutex my depression
> > >> got really bad the 2nd year. I hope you continue to post on here, and
> I > >> will keep you in my thoughts. > >> Lotsof Love, Val > >> On Nov 30,
> 2013 7:24 AM, "Eddie Caceres" wrote: > >> > >>> Hey Serg > >>>? Long story
> I'll try keep it short. Was an H addict for some time used > >>> everything
> under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, got clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > >>>
> after trying countless detoxes and col turkey. Stood clean and sober > thru
> > >>> 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had an injury in my job that required >
> shoulder > >>> surgery. Didn't really abuse the meds vics,Percocet. But the
> monster > was > >>> released. And I'm hooked tried the done for a while
> 2mons 30mgs > couldn't > >>> deal with that shit. So I tried this wonder
> drug subutex so I thought > been > >>> on it since about 6months 2-3mg a
> day even though my doctor wanted me > on > >>> 8-16 a day. Can't tell you
> the world of depression I'm in. But I've > been > >>> researching ibo spoke
> to Buddy, Sister and the guy that was on the Hbo > >>> program for ibo
> (vice). EKG was good but my liver is in bad shape > (hepc +) > >>> can't
> really afford to go to a clinic but most of all I can't even > break > >>>
> the news to my family. I've been hiding my > addiction. But we all know
> what > >>> doesn't come out in the wash comes out in the rinse.lol. I truly
> > respect > >>> you all on this forum and know what I have to do but drugs
> and > >>> procrastination is a mother -ucker. And no one in a 12 step
> program > would > >>> even understand Ibo so I don't mention it to them. I
> consider myself a > >>> spiritual person and been relying on that a lot .
> Got a good job good > >>> family but emotionally I'm falling apart.
> Especially after > experiencing all > >>> those years without using. This
> disease is brutal to say the least. > Hope I > >>> answered your question.
> Feel free to ask away I'm open to suggestion. > P.S. > >>> I've been
> working out a bit since my shoulder is still messed up. I've > been > >>>
> feeling better,my appetite is getting better and started talking my > >>>
> vitamins again. I was big on that and > had stopped. Or one more thing I'm
> > >>> also a diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect Ed. > >>> >
> >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>> On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey
> Sibirian > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>? Hi Eddie, > >>> > >>> How do you relate
> to Ibo yourself? > >>> If you don't mind sharing. > >>> > >>> Wish you well
> > >>> > >>> Sergey > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie
> Caceres > wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi all. I'm Eddie been following this
> list for a while I just don't > >>>> comment > much. But respect you all.
> Just wanted to share that on last nights > >>>> episode of Homeland on
> Showtime showed one of the main character > Hooked on > >>>> H and going
> thru bad wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they gave > it to > >>>>
> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > >>>> Sent from my
> iPhone > >>>> > >>>>? -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List Commands
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> charset="utf-8" > > Hi Serge, > > Google? ? reverse opiate tolerance? this
> is the first page. > > (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid
> tolerance? - Bluelight >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc..
> > .? > > > Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > I often hear people say
> the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > opioids is time without
> taking the drug, or that you can only slow > the > ...(opioids) Using
> naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012 > DXM - The Opiate
> Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18, 2010 > NMDA
> antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25 posts May 5, > 2010 >
> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10, 2007 > More results
> from www.bluelight.ru > > Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to
> opiate analgesics in ... > www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > > by Y
> Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > Five patients on
> chronic opiate medication to treat low-back and leg pain > were determined
> to have developed opiate tolerance on the basis of their > failure to ... >
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... >
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > > > Oct
> 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance:
> Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and can > prevent or > even reverse the
> development of tolerance to opioid ...Tolerance > - Does tolerance never
> fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > Combinations - Dandelion Root for
> Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > Addiction - Resetting a Kratom
> tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > Effects - Possible reverse tolerance? 10
> posts Jan 28, 2010 > More results from www.drugs-forum.com > > Reversing
> Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain - HealingWell.com Forum >
> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases & Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > > >
> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4 authors > I have been using opioid (tramadol,
> hydrocodone and oxycodone) for 6 years, > ... Though there are drugs to
> permanently reverse tolerance for ... > Changing concepts of opioid
> tolerance > www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > > > What
> these classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop to > opioid
> ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and > rapid > reversal
> of tolerance. > Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance - Social
> Anxiety Forum > www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery ?
> Medication? > > > Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > According to this
> research video, they found that THC can synergize with > Opioids and
> decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ... > Does anything
> other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... >
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > > > Feb 8, 2006 - 16
> posts - ?11 authors > The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough "doubling" of
> opiate effects ... > effectiveness AND the prevention/reversal of tolerance
> through the use ... > [PDF] > Inhibition of opiate tolerance by
> non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue >
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? > >
> > by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > The NMDA antagonists were
> found to inhibit the development but not > the > expression of opiate
> tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not > reverse tolerance. >
> This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance. It's also an opiate ...
> > www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc...?
> > > Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance. It's
> also > an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled substance in the U.S.
> but its > no longer ... > Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to
> opiate ... - ScienceDirect >
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > > by Y
> Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > Mar 27, 2003 - Five
> patients on chronic opiate medication to treat low-back > and leg pain were
> determined to have developed opiate tolerance on the > basis of ... >
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> 2013 18:42:39 -0600 > From: star ray > To: "ibogaine at mindvox.com" >
> Subject: [Ibogaine] eddie > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey Eddie, I > pretty much have the same story you
> do,? did some crazy drugs when young, > got pregnant and straight for 25
> years.. had three surgeries, right knee, > left knee (made it through those
> with no pain pills and constant pain) > Finally the rotator cuff shoulder
> surgery was the breaking point.? Had to > take 1 vicoprophen to go through
> rehab, and then started taking some > daily.? I never have taken a lot of
> anything but just enough to mess me up, > been battling with that for seven
> years and i have hep c.......I have done > ibogaine a few times and it
> always helped and also helped my liver and > reduced my viral load and
> enzymes.? i am currently off a low dose of > suboxone (.25 mg)? for about
> 16 days,? just plain tired....anyway good luck > on your journey... are you
> still on subutex??? > > Val and junkboy.... what nice messages, you are the
> best > > peace and love,? STAR > > ??? ??? > ??? ? ??? ??? ? >
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> 2013 20:32:35 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddie, > > I hear you. > 20 years
> of sobriety is already saying a lot about you. > Every life story is
> unique, contrary to an opinion I saw above, and a > person's suffering
> cannot be measured in comparison to anothers. > That's my opinion. > > Hep
> C and Diabetes are a big weight, I can only imagine. > So does that mean
> you cannot use Ibo? > There are compounds being isolated from Iboga, which
> are BELIEVED to be > responsible for WD interuption. > MC-18 is one of
> those. > There's some interesting info about the subject on > Ibogamind.com
> > Very resourceful website: stands out from the rest FOR ME. > > I wish you
> well Eddie, we'll talk more. > > Sergey > > On Friday, 29 November 2013,
> Eddie Caceres wrote: > > > > Hey Serg > >? Long story I'll try keep it
> short. Was an H addict for some time used > > everything under the sun
> coke, ups, crack, acid, got clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > > after trying
> countless detoxes and col turkey. Stood clean and sober thru > > 12 step
> programs for 21 yrs. Had an injury in my job that required > shoulder > >
> surgery. Didn't really abuse the meds vics,Percocet. But the monster was >
> > released. And I'm hooked tried the done for a while 2mons 30mgs couldn't
> > > deal with that shit. So I tried this wonder drug subutex so I thought >
> been > > on it since about 6months 2-3mg a day even though my doctor wanted
> me on > > 8-16 a day. Can't tell you the world of depression I'm in. But
> I've been > > researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister and the guy that was
> on the Hbo > > program for ibo (vice). EKG was good but my liver is in bad
> shape (hepc > +) > > can't really afford to go to a clinic but most > of
> all I can't even break > > the news to my family. I've been hiding my
> addiction. But we all know > what > > doesn't come out in the wash comes
> out in the rinse.lol. I truly respect > > you all on this forum and know
> what I have to do but drugs and > > procrastination is a mother -ucker. And
> no one in a 12 step program would > > even understand Ibo so I don't
> mention it to them. I consider myself a > > spiritual person and been
> relying on that a lot . Got a good job good > > family but emotionally I'm
> falling apart. Especially after experiencing > all > > those years without
> using. This disease is brutal to say the least. Hope > I > > answered your
> question. Feel free to ask away I'm open to suggestion. > P.S. > > I've
> been working out a bit since my shoulder is still messed up. I've > been >
> > feeling better,my appetite is getting better and started talking my > >
> vitamins again. I was big on that and had > stopped. Or one more thing I'm
> > > also a diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect Ed. > > > > Sent
> from my iPad > > > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian 'cvml', '
> sibirianfox at gmail.com');>> > > wrote: > > > > Hi Eddie, > > > > How do
> you relate to Ibo yourself? > > If you don't mind sharing. > > > > Wish you
> well > > > > Sergey > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie
> Caceres 'cvml', 'ebrvwarr at aol.com');> > > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi
> all. I'm Eddie been following this list for a while I just don't > >>
> comment much. But respect you all. Just wanted to share that on last >
> nights > >> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main
> character Hooked > on > >> H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested
> Ibogaine and they gave it > to > >> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges
> it. Hooray. Peace > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>? -=[) ::::::: MindVox
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> 2013 20:40:10 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you > all nice > ???
> xmas, happy new year and everything! > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Mi go, > > Mi go, mein freund! > Ich
> wunsche dir ein freuliche Weinachten und viel Spass! > > Enjoy yourself and
> the new year. > > Sergey > > On Saturday, 30 November 2013, Mi Go wrote: >
> > > hey good people from the forum, > > > > first of all i really
> appreciate to be member of that forum, first time i > > found a forum or
> people with a lot of knowledge about that plant and > > medicine where im
> much interested in, its really hard often to get any > > usefull
> information! > > > > i wanna say thx for all the replies and infos i got
> til now and wish you > > all a > happy xmas etc. etc. i dont know if i have
> any inet connection there > > where i go, i have a doubt on that hehe,
> anyway i will log in, as often > its > > possible, > > > > stand strong and
> take care everybody, have fun and keep up the good work, > > maybe you can
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> 2013 10:51:53 -0800 (PST) > From: danielle yates > To: "
> ibogaine at mindvox.com" > Subject: [Ibogaine] Star, Val? and all >
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> 1385837513.43534.YahooMailNeo at web184302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello... > Star and Val
> thanks for the kind words, I've considered Kratom. ?Right now > it's a
> white knuckle ride with nothing...other than a face plant before >
> Thanksgiving. ?I'm under no illusions about how temporary my current state
> > of "clean" will be if I don't implement real, tangible intervention. ?All
> I > know is I'm taking bb steps...(as advised on this very forum). > > Also
> to those > that shared your Thanksgiving thoughts I think you're incredibly
> > inspirational and I'm so, so, so very glad that I don't have to be alone
> > when facing major obstacles that seem overwhelming. ?If it weren't for
> you > Trail Blazers I don't think I would even attempt such a harrowing
> journey. ? > @ Eddie, Hello and nice to meet you. > > > >
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> > Today's Topics: > > ?? 1. Re: Iboganights (junkboy) > ?? 2. Re:
> Iboganights (Valarie) > ?? 3. Re: Danielle (Valarie) > ?? 4. Re:
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> Anyone remember??? (Sergey Sibirian) > ?? 7. Re: Homeland (Sergey Sibirian)
> > ?? 8. Re: Homeland (Nyc Labret?) > ?? 9. Iboga Vissions (Valarie) > ? 10.
> Re: Iboga Vissions (leomroz24) > ? 11. Re: Homeland (Eddie Caceres) > ? 12.
> wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice xmas,??? happy new > ? ? ? year
> and everything! (Mi Go) > ? 13. Re: Iboga Vissions (Sergey Sibirian) > ?
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> Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:43:53 -0700 > From: junkboy > To:
> The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboganights > Message-ID: > ???
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > jeffg, > im glad you
> posted being grateful. it helped me to remember how grateful i > am to not
> have that damned monkey on my back anymore. this list has helped > me a
> ton. thanks for everyone who has reached out and helped me on my > journey
> from being a drug addicted crazy person to a clean crazy person. > ibogaine
> is definitely a tool that has helped change my life. it actually > did not
> FIX me.. it just helped me along on my journey. > ?? ive learned that i
> have to do the work to help myself, to find something > that fills that
> emptiness that is inside me that wants to be filled with > drugs, self
> destructive behavior, and chaos. im working to overcome myself. > its > not
> an easy process, but so far has been totally worth it. > i like quick
> fixes. well, im learning that there there are no quick fixes. > quoting
> from NA its one day at a time. > plugging away at my issues, trying to let
> go of beliefs that are not > working, and letting other people into my
> heart seems to be working for me. > other than a stint earler this year
> involving the emergency room, morphine > and a take home script of perc's,
> its been good. > i want to say thank you to everyone on this list, everyone
> who has emailed > me privately and chatted with me, my wife who can somehow
> put up with me, > my NA group, and others who have helped take this broken,
> sad, depressed > and desperate shell of a human being, and helped me to
> grow into a person > who is healing and becoming whole again. > there is
> hope. > all it takes is a little work every day. > some support > some
> love. > some taking, > some giving > some compromise, > some > pain, > some
> compassion > some random acts of kindness > and a letting go of hate, self
> loathing, pride, and thinking you are the > cock of the walk. > your not..
> just human like all the rest of us.. > love you guys and gals.. > junkboy >
> > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Jeff G wrote: > > > Saw this inside
> mindvox, thought it might be something the list here > would > > like to
> see. > > Sergey?? > > > > http://iboganights.co.uk/ > > > > And happy
> thanksgiving to all of you, I'm grateful for you, this list, > and > > for
> being unsprung from my methadone habit....and for finally seeing that > >
> all the 'reasons' I had to be high were basically full of shit. > >
> Sometimes I wish I didn't, but mostly I'm really glad. > > Peace > > >
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> 2013 15:12:13 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] Iboganights > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Yes, Thank you too all who have helped me get
> clean and stay clean. > Ibogaine was a big part in my recovery. > I have
> gone cold turkey plenty of times but once I had been on Methadone >
> maintenance then Sub maintenance then methadone again then Sub again all of
> > these maintenance for 12 years left me to afraid to detox. > If it were
> not for Ibogaine I would have never got off that merry go round. > In order
> for me to stay clean I am going to an outpatient program from > 10-1pm then
> I go to a place called the Wellness Center from 1-5pm and it > gets dark so
> early now > because of daylights savings it's already dark by > 5pm, > I go
> home have dinner then go to bed, so my day is now full. Before I could >
> not stop thinking about getting high, Now I am keeping myself busy. You all
> > kept telling me but I was being lazy . > Thank you to everyone on this
> list. I could not have gotten sober without > you. > Now I get to go on
> here to keep my recovery going with all your help and > help others by
> sharing my experience. You can get off Methadone! You can > get off Sub! >
> You don't need to go back to heroin and end up dying to do ibogaine you can
> > use kratom for that short time. Then depending on how your provider feels
> > detox from that or they might put you on a SAO for a couple days. Then >
> Ibogaine!!!!! > Don't let the 3 months scare you. > Love you all. > Lotsof
> Love, Val > On Nov 29, 2013 11:28 AM, "junkboy" wrote: > > > jeffg, > > im
> glad you posted being grateful. it helped me to remember how grateful > i >
> > am to not have that damned monkey on my back anymore. this list has >
> helped > > me a ton. thanks for everyone who has reached out and helped me
> on my > > journey from being a drug addicted crazy person to a clean crazy
> person. > > ibogaine is definitely a tool that has helped change my life.
> it actually > > did not FIX me.. it just helped me along on my journey. >
> >? ? ive learned that i have to do the work to help myself, to find > >
> something that fills that emptiness that is inside me that wants to be > >
> filled with drugs, self destructive behavior, and chaos. im working to > >
> overcome myself. its not an easy process, but so far has been totally >
> worth > > it. > > i like quick fixes. well, im learning that there there
> are no quick > fixes. > > quoting from NA its one day at a time. > >
> plugging away at my issues, trying to let go of beliefs that are not > >
> working, and letting other people into my heart seems to be working for >
> me. > > other than a stint earler this year involving the emergency room, >
> morphine > > and a take home script of perc's, its been good. > > i want to
> say thank you to everyone on this list, everyone who has > emailed > > me
> privately and chatted with me, my wife who can somehow put up with me, > >
> my NA group, and others who have helped take this broken, sad, depressed >
> > and desperate shell of a human being, and helped me to grow into a person
> > > who is healing and becoming whole again. > > there is hope. > > all it
> takes is a little work every day. > > some support > > some love. > > some
> taking, > > some giving > > some compromise, > > some pain, > > some
> compassion > > some > random acts of kindness > > and a letting go of hate,
> self loathing, pride, and thinking you are the > > cock of the walk. > >
> your not.. just human like all the rest of us.. > > love you guys and
> gals.. > > junkboy > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Jeff G
> wrote: > > > >> Saw this inside mindvox, thought it might be something the
> list here > >> would like to see. > >> Sergey?? > >> > >>
> http://iboganights.co.uk/ > >> > >> And happy thanksgiving to all of you,
> I'm grateful for you, this list, > >> and for being unsprung from my
> methadone habit....and for finally seeing > >> that all the 'reasons' I had
> to be high were basically full of shit. > >> Sometimes I wish I didn't, but
> > mostly I'm really glad. > >> Peace > >> JeffG > >> > >> > >>?? -=[)
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> 2013 15:24:05 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] Danielle > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Daniel, I don't know if you have looked into this
> but it is safer then > going on pills that will be abused and not to
> mention expensive, or go to > heroin. > Kratomassociation.org > I know of >
> a few people personally who are staying off Methadone this way, > and I
> personally used it to help me get off Subutex, untill I had a > seizure.?
> If you have a history of seizures high doses of Kratom can make > you
> easily seizure susceptible. > Lotsof Love, Val > On Nov 28, 2013 5:33 PM,
> "star ray" wrote: > > > > > Wow Danielle, thanks for sharing your
> story....you have been through > > alot... now personally i am not sure how
> long you have to be off > methadone > > to have a successful ibogaine
> treatment but i am sure someone on this > list > > knows... I think
> ibogaine is definitely a good idea for you... whatever > you > > do, if
> ibogaine is your plan, do not go back on methadone or suboxone!!!! > > > >
> Happy Thanksgiving, gotta go , my son and i are bonding over a movie > > >
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> 2013 21:06:46 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboganights > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Jeff, > > Very interesting! > I
> understand it's the guy's website,-David Graham Scott,- the one who made >
> the movie "Detox or Die" > > There's one thing I find funny. > At the
> "home" page, if you let the pics slide by, the last pic to appear, > it's a
> guy, Iain. > But he looks like he just OD'd on smack and has foam and like
> clouded eyes! > ? > :D > > I really respect that David Graham Scott
> character. > He's a smart fella, and he really put his Ibo EXP to everyones
> benefit. > > Wish you well > > Sergey > > > > On Fri, Nov 29, > 2013 at
> 12:55 PM, Jeff G wrote: > > > Saw this inside mindvox, thought it might be
> something the list here > would > > like to see. > > Sergey?? > > > >
> http://iboganights.co.uk/ > > > > And happy thanksgiving to all of you,
> I'm grateful for you, this list, > and > > for being unsprung from my
> methadone habit....and for finally seeing that > > all the 'reasons' I had
> to be high were basically full of shit. > > Sometimes I wish I didn't, but
> mostly I'm really glad. > > Peace > > JeffG > > > > > >?? -=[) :::::::
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> 2013 18:29:37 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddie: ) > On Nov 25, 2013 10:59 AM, "Eddie
> Caceres" wrote: > > > > > Hi all. I'm Eddie been following this list for a
> while I just don't > > comment much. But respect you all. Just wanted to
> share that on last > nights > > episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one
> of the main character Hooked > on > > H and going thru bad wds so someone
> suggested Ibogaine and they gave it > to > > him. At least Hollywood
> acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >?? -=[)
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> 2013 21:38:03 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: [Ibogaine] Anyone remember??? > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hi crowd, > > A few weeks ago I was
> researching all kinds > of molecules THAT REVERSE TOLERANCE. > > Proglumide
> is a top example, > but there were much more. > > All kinds of compounds
> that have different medical uses, usually > not at all associated with
> substance abuse? > > CAN ANYONE REMEMBER THE NAMES? > I would really
> appreciate since I lost track and can't find any? > > Thanks! > > Sergey >
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> 2013 22:36:35 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddie, > > How do you relate to Ibo
> yourself? > If you don't mind sharing. > > Wish you well > > Sergey > > >
> On Mon, > Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres wrote: > > > > > Hi all.
> I'm Eddie been following this list for a while I just don't > > comment
> much. But respect you all. Just wanted to share that on last > nights > >
> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main character Hooked >
> on > > H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they gave
> it > to > > him. At least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > > Sent
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> 2013 22:46:19 -0500 > From: Nyc Labret? > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > I edited out all > the sideplots and posted the entire
> sequence here, > >
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rvyytmfum5pkl99/BrodyTreatedWithIbogaineOnHL.movfeel> free to pass along the link or download it. > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at
> 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres wrote: > > > > > Hi all. I'm Eddie been following
> this list for a while I just don't > > comment much. But respect you all.
> Just wanted to share that on last > nights > > episode of Homeland on
> Showtime showed one of the main character Hooked > on > > H and going thru
> bad wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they gave it > to > > him. At
> least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > > Sent from my iPhone > >
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> 2013 23:48:22 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The > Ibogaine List > Subject:
> [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > As most of you know I did not get very many
> visions during my ibogaine > treatment which was a disappointment to me. >
> Since I did Ibogaine I have cut my Colonzapam intake in half from 6mgs to 3
> > mgs. > Before treatment and tapering to Colonzapam? I had been on 6-14mgs
> of xanex > a day for over 10years > I am sure this is why bidding get very
> many visions. > I plan to be off the colonzapam completely in about 3
> months and want to do > another treatment > Should I get the TA or HCL
> again? > My boyfriend will probably watch me > since my favorite person in
> the world > who treated me lives in a different state. > I heard the TA is
> more for visions,? and HCL is more for the addiction is > this true? >
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> Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: > ??? > > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > So it did help you with the Benzo
> dt's? I have heard from some people that > it does not take away the
> withdrawals from benzo and also I have heard many > people getting rid of
> there addiction since it took them to the root of why > they had anxiety to
> begin with. I have been on benzo's for 7 years or so > and have cut my dose
> down to about 1mg per day, sometimes less but I just > cant seem to kick
> these damn things. > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Valarie wrote: >
> > > As most of you know I did not get very many visions > during my
> ibogaine > > treatment which was a disappointment to me. > > Since I did
> Ibogaine I have cut my Colonzapam intake in half from 6mgs to > > 3 mgs. >
> > Before treatment and tapering to Colonzapam? I had been on 6-14mgs of > >
> xanex a day for over 10years > > I am sure this is why bidding get very
> many visions. > > I plan to be off the colonzapam completely in about 3
> months and want to > > do another treatment > > Should I get the TA or HCL
> again? > > My boyfriend will probably watch me since my favorite person in
> the world > > who treated me lives in a different state. > > I heard the TA
> is more for visions,? and HCL is more for the addiction is > > this true? >
> > Thanks for your continued help. > > Lotsof Love,? Val > > > > > >?? -=[)
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> 2013 23:30:26 -0500 > From: Eddie Caceres > To: The Ibogaine List >
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> charset="us-ascii" > > Hey Serg > Long story I'll try keep it short. Was an
> H addict for some time used > everything under the sun coke, ups, crack,
> acid, got clean in 1990 ( rehab) > after trying countless detoxes and col
> turkey. Stood clean and sober thru > 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had an
> injury in my job that required shoulder > surgery. Didn't really abuse the
> meds vics,Percocet. But the monster was > released. And I'm hooked tried
> the done for a while 2mons 30mgs couldn't > deal with that shit. So I tried
> this wonder drug subutex so I thought been > on it since about 6months
> 2-3mg a day even though my doctor wanted me on > 8-16 a day. Can't tell you
> the world of depression I'm in. But I've been > researching ibo spoke to
> Buddy, Sister and the guy that was on the Hbo > program for ibo (vice). EKG
> was good but my liver is > in bad shape (hepc +) can't really afford to go
> to a clinic but most of > all I can't even break the news to my family.
> I've been hiding my > addiction. But we all know what doesn't > come out in
> the wash comes out i > n the rinse.lol. I truly respect you all on this
> forum and know what I > have to do but drugs and procrastination is a
> mother -ucker. And no one in > a 12 step program would even understand Ibo
> so I don't mention it to them. > I consider myself a spiritual person and
> been relying on that a lot . Got a > good job good family but emotionally
> I'm falling apart. Especially after > experiencing all those years without
> using. This disease is brutal to say > the least. Hope I answered your
> question. Feel free to ask away I'm open to > suggestion. P.S. I've been
> working out a bit since my shoulder is still > messed up. I've been feeling
> better,my appetite is getting better and > started talking my vitamins
> again. I was big on that and had stopped. Or > one more thing > I'm also a
> diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect Ed. > > Sent from my iPad >
> > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian > wrote: > > > > Hi
> Eddie, > > > > How do you relate to Ibo yourself? > > If you don't mind
> sharing. > > > > Wish you well > > > > Sergey > > > > > >> On Mon, Nov 25,
> 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres > wrote: > >> > >> Hi all. I'm Eddie been
> following this list for a while I just don't > comment much. But respect
> you all. Just wanted to share that on last nights > episode of Homeland on
> Showtime showed one of the main character Hooked on > H and going thru bad
> wds so someone suggested Ibogaine and they gave it to > him. At least
> Hollywood > acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> >
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> 2013 13:15:42 +0100 > From: Mi Go > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> [Ibogaine] wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice xmas, > ??? happy new
> year and everything! > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > hey good people from the forum, > > first of all i
> > really appreciate to be member of that forum, first time i > found a
> forum or people with a lot of knowledge about that plant and > medicine
> where im much interested in, its really hard often to get any > usefull
> information! > > i wanna say thx for all the replies and infos i got til
> now and wish you > all a happy xmas etc. etc. i dont know if i have any
> inet connection there > where i go, i have a doubt on that hehe, anyway i
> will log in, as often its > possible, > > stand strong and take care
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> 2013 10:26:43 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Val, Leo > > Benzos addiction is by
> far the worst IN TERMS OF PHYSICAL DEPENDANCY. > I'm not talking ADDICTION
> AS A WHOLE. > >From what I read and researched, Ibo does NOT reset > benzo
> addiction. > And it makes sense, to me at least. > If opioids fuck with the
> endorphine system in our brain, the benzos fuck > with > Our brains much
> more basic system: homeostasys and GABBA. > Homeostatys is basically a
> state of balance the brain has to maintain at > any price between the "up"
> and "down" states. > Between stimulation/action and
> depression/deactivation. > And this is exactly what delirium tremens is: >
> The brain has been long "down" stimulated by alcohol, which also acts on >
> GABBA receptors. > So when a person abruptly stops drinking, the "up" part
> of brain is active, > while the "down" waits for alcohol to do its job. >
> The result is a loss of balance in favor of the "up", and delirium tremens
> > sets in. > Convulsions, hallucinations, and ultimately possible coma or
> death... > > With heroin/opioids, no matter the severity of WD, there's no
> danger of > death. > With GABBA agonists, such as benzos and alcohol, >
> there is. > All that to point out that benzo addiction is very serious and
> in my humble > opinion, should NEVER be interrupted > But rather tapered
> down. > But then again, I'm no expert on benzo addiction, although I've
> personally > witnessed two persons being brought to the hospital > In state
> of coma due to alcohol WD. > That pretty much shocked me so I did some
> research and NEVER touch benzos. > > Wish you well > > Sergey > > > On
> Saturday, 30 November 2013, leomroz24 wrote: > > > So it did help you with
> the Benzo dt's? I have heard from some people > that > > it does not take
> away the withdrawals from benzo and also I have heard > many > > people
> getting rid of there addiction since it took them to the root of > why > >
> they had anxiety to begin with. I have been on benzo's for 7 years or so >
> > and have cut my dose down to about 1mg per day, sometimes less but I just
> > > cant seem to kick these damn > things. > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013
> at 1:48 AM, Valarie 'cvml', 'val.needis at gmail.com');> > > > wrote: > > >
> >> As most of you know I did not get very many visions during my ibogaine >
> >> treatment which was a disappointment to me. > >> Since I did Ibogaine I
> have cut my Colonzapam intake in half from 6mgs > to > >> 3 mgs. > >>
> Before treatment and tapering to Colonzapam? I had been on 6-14mgs of > >>
> xanex a day for over 10years > >> I am sure this is why bidding get very
> many visions. > >> I plan to be off the colonzapam completely in about 3
> months and want to > >> do another treatment > >> Should I get the TA or
> HCL again? > >> My boyfriend > will probably watch me since my favorite
> person in the world > >> who treated me lives in a different state. > >> I
> heard the TA is more for visions,? and HCL is more for the addiction > is >
> >> this true? > >> Thanks for your continued help. > >> Lotsof Love,? Val >
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> 2013 07:34:23 -0800 (PST) > From: Chris Jenks > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] IBOGA SEEDS > Message-ID: > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" > > > ?? Dear Friends,
> > > ?? I'm in the middle of purchasing iboga seeds from Emmanuel Lih. His >
> price > is typical, and one advantage is that his seeds come from >
> cultivated > plants so their harvest won't interfere with wild iboga
> propagation. These > were paid for October 22nd but shipping to South
> Africa is very slow and I > didn't suspect a problem until November 16th,
> when the package had to be > resent because of a problem at the Cameroon
> post office. That problem made > us even, since Emmanuel was hassled when
> picking up payment because > Western Union charged me dollars when I
> clearly specified euros on the > form. > > ?? From the start I intended to
> write a complete report of my seed > purchasing experiences once my
> transactions are complete, but wanted to > post what I have in response to
> this thread. > > ?? I don't recommend having the seeds come in the pods
> because iboga seems > to stay viable even when dried and the pods are
> likely to spoil before > arriving from Cameroon, or get unwanted attention
> from customs. The > viability of fresh but separated seeds from >
> CerberusExtract.com has been > over 50%. > > ?? There is a lot of recent
> information about growing iboga on facebook if > anyone is planning to
> study this seriously. If you want to start with the > discussions on my
> page my facebook id is chris.jenks.129 > > ?? Yours, > > ? ?? Chris > > On
> Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Valarie wrote: > > > YES! > > > > On Nov 28, 2013 12:33
> PM, "Sergey Sibirian" > wrote: > >? ? ?? Emmanuel, > > seeds to plant... >
> > Of course! > > I mean, I would love to,? > > but I don't want to impose
> or intrude? > > I'm kind of new here. > > > > Sergey > > > > > > On Wed,
> Nov 20, 2013 at 10:45 AM, M. Emmanuel Lih > wrote: > > > >? ? ?? I have
> seeds harvested. Anybody needs to plant??? > > > > > > > >? ? ?? ? -=[)
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> 2013 00:47:21 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no > subject) > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Jim! > > I just put a bright star next to
> this particular thread. > SO i can easily spot itpo > Honestly though, what
> you did, the research you carried out is simply > priceless. > Or there is
> a price: HOURS OF MY TIME. > > Plus, to be able to spot the right/mot
> relevant info is nothing short of > serious skill > > Thanks agsin. > >
> Sergey > > So I'm early grateful. > I'll go through every link > > > On
> Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 wrote: > > > > > Hi > Serge, > > >
> > Google? ? reverse opiate tolerance? this is the first page. > > > >
> (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight > > >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > > ? > > > > > > Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > > I often
> hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > > opioids is
> time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the > >
> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012 > >
> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18, >
> 2010 > > NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25 posts
> May 5, > > 2010 > > Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10,
> 2007 > > More results from www.bluelight.ru > > > > Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics in ... > > >
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > > > > by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > > Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat low-back and leg pain > > were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance on the basis of their > > failure to ... > >
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... > >
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > > > > > >
> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > > Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance:
> Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and > > can prevent or even reverse the
> development of tolerance to opioid > > ...Tolerance - Does tolerance never
> fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > > Combinations - Dandelion Root for
> Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > > Addiction - Resetting a Kratom
> tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > > Effects - Possible reverse tolerance? 10
> posts Jan 28, 2010 > > > More results from www.drugs-forum.com > > > >
> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain - HealingWell.com Forum > >
> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases & Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > > > >
> > > May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4 authors > > I have been using opioid
> (tramadol, hydrocodone and oxycodone) for 6 > > years, ... Though there are
> drugs to permanently reverse tolerance for > ... > > Changing concepts of
> opioid tolerance > > www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >
> > > > > What these classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop
> to > > opioid ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and
> rapid > > reversal of tolerance. > > Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse
> tolerance - Social Anxiety Forum > > www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ?
> Recovery ? Medication? > > > > > > Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > >
> According to this research > video, they found that THC can synergize with
> > > Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ... >
> > Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... > >
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > > > > > > Feb 8,
> 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > > The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough
> "doubling" of opiate effects ... > > effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use > ... > > [PDF] > >
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue > >
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? > >
> > > > > by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > > The NMDA antagonists
> were found to inhibit the development but not the > > expression of opiate
> tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not > > reverse tolerance. >
> > This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance. It's also an > opiate
> ... > >
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc.. >
> .? > > > > Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance.
> It's > also > > an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled substance in
> the U.S. but > its > > no longer ... > > Tryptophan loading may reverse
> tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect > >
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > > > > by Y
> Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > > Mar 27, 2003 -
> Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat > > low-back and leg
> pain were determined to have developed opiate tolerance > on > > the basis
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> 2013 03:08:52 -0500 > From: Randy Faulconer > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > ? ? ? Hello Eddie, your story sounds a
> lot > like..........................well......................all of us. I
> went > through interferon for hep C, have had hep B twice, had major colon
> surgery > for God knows what reason (I once did a gig with a colostomy bag
> hanging > off of me and took a dump while playing the keyboard part to
> Material Girl) > and thanx to this list I am still here to tell the tale.
> We all hang > together and give each other all the love we can express over
> the internet. > You are most def in the right place. Don't give up on
> trying to find a way > to better yourself. I have never seen anybody with a
> liver so bad that they > were refused an Ibogaine treatment. Heart
> problems? Yea that will scare > providers away. But I have heard of people
> being yellow from liver problems > and still got > healthy enough to do an
> Ibo treatment. Ask for help, take > milk thistle, talk to a liver expert,
> anything you can do to get yourself > in a position to be able to get the
> help you need. > > ? ? What do your liver panels look like? I'm not saying
> that you should > ignore the blood work, just make sure that you get more
> then one opinion > about whether you can handle an Ibogaine treatment.
> There are some really > good clinics that have docs willing to work with
> problems like this.Check > around, you might be surprised at just what is
> available to you. > > ? ? ? ? I know, money is always the biggest problem,
> just stick around here > and get to know people. Things just might come
> around for you. Even if you > have to hang around here for ever, it could
> be worse, we even make each > other laugh from time to time so what do you
> have to lose? > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Peace Love and > The Underground > ? ? ? ?
> ? ? ? ? ? ? Randy > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? BiscuitBoy Blues > > > On Sat,
> Nov 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > > > Hi Eddie, > > > > I
> hear you. > > 20 years of sobriety is already saying a lot about you. > >
> Every life story is unique, contrary to an opinion I saw above, and a > >
> person's suffering cannot be measured in comparison to anothers. > > That's
> my opinion. > > > > Hep C and Diabetes are a big weight, I can only
> imagine. > > So does that mean you cannot use Ibo? > > There are compounds
> being isolated from Iboga, which are BELIEVED to be > > responsible for WD
> interuption. > > MC-18 is one of those. > > There's some > interesting info
> about the subject on > > Ibogamind.com > > Very resourceful website: stands
> out from the rest FOR ME. > > > > I wish you well Eddie, we'll talk more. >
> > > > Sergey > > > > On Friday, 29 November 2013, Eddie Caceres wrote: > >
> > >> Hey Serg > >>? Long story I'll try keep it short. Was an H addict for
> some time used > >> everything under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, got
> clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > >> after trying countless detoxes and col
> turkey. Stood clean and sober > thru > >> 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had
> an injury in my job that required > shoulder > >> surgery. Didn't really
> abuse the meds vics,Percocet. But the monster was > >> released. And I'm
> hooked tried the done for a while 2mons 30mgs couldn't > >> deal with that
> shit. So I tried this wonder drug subutex so I thought > been > >> on it
> since about 6months 2-3mg a day even > though my doctor wanted me on > >>
> 8-16 a day. Can't tell you the world of depression I'm in. But I've been >
> >> researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister and the guy that was on the Hbo >
> >> program for ibo (vice). EKG was good but my liver is in bad shape (hepc
> > +) > >> can't really afford to go to a clinic but most of all I can't
> even break > >> the news to my family. I've been hiding my addiction. But
> we all know > what > >> doesn't come out in the wash comes out in the
> rinse.lol. I truly respect > >> you all on this forum and know what I have
> to do but drugs and > >> procrastination is a mother -ucker. And no one in
> a 12 step program > would > >> even understand Ibo so I don't mention it to
> them. I consider myself a > >> spiritual person and been relying on that a
> lot . Got a good job good > >> family but emotionally I'm falling apart.
> Especially after experiencing > all > >> > those years without using. This
> disease is brutal to say the least. Hope I > >> answered your question.
> Feel free to ask away I'm open to suggestion. > P.S. > >> I've been working
> out a bit since my shoulder is still messed up. I've > been > >> feeling
> better,my appetite is getting better and started talking my > >> vitamins
> again. I was big on that and had stopped. Or one more thing I'm > >> also a
> diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect Ed. > >> > >> Sent from my
> iPad > >> > >> On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian > >> wrote: >
> >> > >> Hi Eddie, > >> > >> How do you relate to Ibo yourself? > >> If you
> don't mind sharing. > >> > >> Wish you well > >> > >> Sergey > >> > >> > >>
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi
> all. I'm Eddie been following this list for a while I just don't > >>>
> comment much. But respect you all. Just wanted to share that on last >
> nights > >>> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main
> character > Hooked on > >>> H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested
> Ibogaine and they gave > it to > >>> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges
> it. Hooray. Peace > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>>? -=[) :::::::
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> a bright star next to this particular thread. > > SO i can easily spot itpo
> > > Honestly though, what you did, the research you carried out is simply >
> > priceless. > > Or there is a price: HOURS OF MY TIME. > > > > Plus, to be
> able to spot the right/mot relevant info is nothing short of > > serious
> skill > > > > Thanks agsin. > > > > Sergey > > > > So I'm early grateful. >
> > I'll go through every link > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM,
> Jim Hadey3 wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi Serge, > >> > >> Google? ? reverse
> opiate tolerance? this is the first page. > >> > >> > (opioids) Is it
> possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight > >> > >> >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > >> ? > >> > >> > >> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > >> I
> often hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > >>
> opioids is time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the > >>
> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012 > >>
> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18, >
> 2010 > >> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25 posts
> May 5, > >> 2010 > >> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10,
> 2007 > >> More results from www.bluelight.ru > >> > >> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics in ... > >> >
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > >> > >> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >> Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat low-back and leg > pain > >> were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance on the basis of their > >> failure to ... > >>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... > >>
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > >> > >> >
> >> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > >> Pharmacology - Opioid
> Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and > >> can prevent or even
> reverse the development of tolerance to opioid > >> ...Tolerance - Does
> tolerance never fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > >> Combinations -
> Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > >> Addiction -
> Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > >> > Effects - Possible
> reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, 2010 > >> More results from
> www.drugs-forum.com > >> > >> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain -
> HealingWell.com Forum > >> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases &
> Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > >> > >> > >> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4
> authors > >> I have been using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and oxycodone)
> for 6 > >> years, ... Though there are drugs to permanently reverse
> tolerance for > ... > >> Changing concepts of opioid tolerance > >>
> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >> > >> > >> What these
> classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop to > >> opioid
> ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and rapid > >>
> reversal of tolerance. > >> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance -
> Social Anxiety Forum > >> > www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery
> ? Medication? > >> > >> > >> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > >>
> According to this research video, they found that THC can synergize with >
> >> Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ... >
> >> Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... > >>
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > >> > >> > >> Feb 8,
> 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > >> The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough
> "doubling" of opiate effects ... > >> effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use > ... > >> [PDF] > >>
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue > >>
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? >
> >> > >> > >> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > >> The NMDA >
> antagonists were found to inhibit the development but not the > >>
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not > >>
> reverse tolerance. > >> This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance.
> It's also an opiate > ... > >>
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc.. >
> .? > >> > >> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. It's > >> also an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled
> substance in the U.S. > >> but its no longer ... > >> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect > >>
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > >> > >> by
> Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >> Mar 27, 2003 -
> Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat > >> low-back and leg
> pain were determined to have developed opiate tolerance > on > >> the basis
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> 2013 03:19:54 -0500 > From: Jim Hadey3 > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject) > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > I saw that film you posted a link to and it was pretty
> good.? It was not > bad when you take it but when you come out of it maybe
> 20 hours later you > may feel rough or you may have the Ibo glow.? > 24 or
> so hours after you take > you don't feel that great but not that bad
> considering you have just been > through a detox.? I put it like this you
> will go from the worst flu in the > world to a bad cold.? When ya got a
> cold ya just gotta hack it. > > As far as being scared it is not a scared
> feeling like spiders and snakes. > I seen something I wanted to change and
> I asked that it be changed and it > asked what to and I said whatever you
> think I need and the vision changed. > I am surprised the guy had a ECG
> done also he went from met to Ibo which > can be pretty rough and sometimes
> dangerous.? I believed he said something > about the QT syndrome can't say
> for sure. > > Hey Sis? do you have any idea if a person has Prolonger QT
> Syndrome how > long should you wait before taking to the hospital and how
> would a person > know - just curious.? That was a nice video Serge posted a
> link to, short > and pretty > informative.? It did seem to imply that after
> a couple of days > he was alright.? For me the effects lasted a good week
> or two.? I am not > saying I was buzzing around but knew it would be better
> to stay in the > house and not drive.? It also affected my eating habits as
> cutting down 95% > on sugar like ice cream and cola mainly. > > Best, > > ?
> - JIM > > > > On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > >
> > Jim! > > > > I just put a bright star next to this particular thread. > >
> SO i can easily spot itpo > > Honestly though, what you did, the research
> you carried out is simply > > priceless. > > Or there is a price: HOURS OF
> MY TIME. > > > > Plus, to be able to spot the right/mot relevant info is
> nothing short of > > serious skill > > > > > Thanks agsin. > > > > Sergey >
> > > > So I'm early grateful. > > I'll go through every link > > > > > > On
> Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi Serge, >
> >> > >> Google? ? reverse opiate tolerance? this is the first page. > >> >
> >> (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight > >> >
> >> >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > >> ? > >> > >> > >> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > >> I
> often hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > >>
> opioids is time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the > >>
> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, > 2012 >
> >> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18, >
> 2010 > >> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25 posts
> May 5, > >> 2010 > >> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10,
> 2007 > >> More results from www.bluelight.ru > >> > >> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics in ... > >>
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > >> > >> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >> Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat low-back and leg > pain > >> were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance on the basis of their > >> failure to ... > >>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... > >>
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > >> > >> >
> >> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 > author > >> Pharmacology - Opioid
> Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and > >> can prevent or even
> reverse the development of tolerance to opioid > >> ...Tolerance - Does
> tolerance never fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > >> Combinations -
> Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > >> Addiction -
> Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > >> Effects - Possible
> reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, 2010 > >> More results from
> www.drugs-forum.com > >> > >> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain -
> HealingWell.com Forum > >> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases &
> Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > >> > >> > >> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4
> authors > >> I have been using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and oxycodone)
> for 6 > >> years, ... Though there are drugs to permanently reverse
> tolerance for > ... > >> Changing > concepts of opioid tolerance > >>
> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >> > >> > >> What these
> classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop to > >> opioid
> ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and rapid > >>
> reversal of tolerance. > >> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance -
> Social Anxiety Forum > >> www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery ?
> Medication? > >> > >> > >> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > >>
> According to this research video, they found that THC can synergize with >
> >> Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I got my ... >
> >> Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... > >>
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > >> > >> > >> Feb 8,
> 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > >> The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough >
> "doubling" of opiate effects ... > >> effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use > ... > >> [PDF] > >>
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue > >>
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? >
> >> > >> > >> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > >> The NMDA
> antagonists were found to inhibit the development but not the > >>
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not > >>
> reverse tolerance. > >> This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance.
> It's also an opiate > ... > >>
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc.. >
> .? > >> > >> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. It's > >> also an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled
> substance in the U.S. > >> but its no longer > ... > >> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect > >>
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > >> > >> by
> Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >> Mar 27, 2003 -
> Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat > >> low-back and leg
> pain were determined to have developed opiate > tolerance on > >> the basis
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> 2013 01:03:08 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] (no > subject) > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > Jim you do your homework! . > Sergie I must have missed
> the video Jim is referring to, can you repost it > or just email it to me??
> Thank you. > <3 Val > On Dec 1, 2013 12:39 AM, "Randy Faulconer" wrote: > >
> > Jim is the man > > > > Randy > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM,
> Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > > > >> Jim! > >> > >> I just put a bright star
> next to this particular thread. > >> SO i can easily > spot itpo > >>
> Honestly though, what you did, the research you carried out is simply > >>
> priceless. > >> Or there is a price: HOURS OF MY TIME. > >> > >> Plus, to
> be able to spot the right/mot relevant info is nothing short of > >>
> serious skill > >> > >> Thanks agsin. > >> > >> Sergey > >> > >> So I'm
> early grateful. > >> I'll go through every link > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Nov
> 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi Serge, > >>> >
> >>> Google? ? reverse opiate tolerance? this is the first page. > >>> > >>>
> (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - Bluelight > >>> >
> >>> >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > >>> ? > >>> > >>> > >>> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > >>>
> I often hear people say the only thing that can reverse tolerance to > >>>
> opioids is time without taking the drug, or that you can only slow the >
> >>> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts May 11, 2012
> > >>> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 posts Aug 18,
> > >>> 2010 > >>> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25
> posts May 5, > >>> 2010 > >>> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts
> Jul 10, 2007 > >>> More results from www.bluelight.ru > >>> > >>>
> Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to opiate analgesics in ... > >>>
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > >>> > >>> > by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980
> - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >>> Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat low-back and leg > >>> pain were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance on the basis of > >>> their failure to ... > >>>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... > >>>
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & Opioids? > >>> > >>>
> > >>> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > >>> Pharmacology - Opioid
> Tolerance: Reversing Receptor Sensitivity ... and > >>> can prevent or even
> reverse the development of tolerance to opioid > >>> ...Tolerance - Does
> tolerance never fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > >>> Combinations -
> Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > >>> Addiction -
> Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, 2010 > >>> Effects - >
> Possible reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, 2010 > >>> More results from
> www.drugs-forum.com > >>> > >>> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain
> - HealingWell.com Forum > >>> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases &
> Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > >>> > >>> > >>> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4
> authors > >>> I have been using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and
> oxycodone) for 6 > >>> years, ... Though there are drugs to permanently
> reverse tolerance for > ... > >>> Changing concepts of opioid tolerance >
> >>> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >>> > >>> > >>>
> What these classical studies showed is that tolerance does develop to > >>>
> opioid ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in pain and rapid > >>>
> reversal of tolerance. > >>> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse > tolerance
> - Social Anxiety Forum > >>> www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ?
> Recovery ? Medication? > >>> > >>> > >>> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8
> authors > >>> According to this research video, they found that THC can
> synergize > with > >>> Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid
> tolerance. I got my ... > >>> Does anything other than TIME lower
> tolerance? [Archive ... > >>>
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > >>> > >>> > >>> Feb
> 8, 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > >>> The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a
> rough "doubling" of opiate effects ... > >>> effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance through the use > ... > >>> [PDF] > >>>
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue > >>> >
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? >
> >>> > >>> > >>> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > >>> The NMDA
> antagonists were found to inhibit the development but not the > >>>
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able to prevent but not >
> >>> reverse tolerance. > >>> This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. It's also an opiate > >>> ... > >>>
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc. >
> .. > >>> ? > >>> > >>> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse
> opiate tolerance. It's > >>> also an opiate potentiator and is not a
> controlled substance in the > U.S. > >>> but its no longer ... > >>>
> Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to opiate ... - ScienceDirect >
> >>> > www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > >>> >
> >>> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >>> Mar 27,
> 2003 - Five patients on chronic opiate medication to treat > >>> low-back
> and leg pain were determined to have developed opiate > tolerance on > >>>
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> 2013 23:46:50 -0500 > From: Eddie Caceres > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] eddie > Message-ID: <
> 31AB4E4F-33E6-471A-A44D-D575672F638F at aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks all for the kind words and the warm welcome.
> Yes Star still on sub > about 2-3 mg depends on my day don't want to go
> above that. I've been since > July ( sub). I haven't considered IBO not
> because of my Hep c but my > finances and situation at home. Won't be easy
> breaking the news to family. > Love and respect to all > > Sent from my
> iPhone > > > On Nov 30, 2013, at 7:42 PM, star ray wrote: > > > > Hey
> Eddie, I pretty much have the same story you do,? did some crazy > drugs
> when young, got pregnant and straight for 25 years.. had three > surgeries,
> right knee, left knee (made it through those with no pain pills > and
> constant pain) Finally the rotator cuff shoulder surgery was the > breaking
> point.? Had to take 1 vicoprophen to go through rehab, and then > started
> taking some daily.? I never have taken a lot of anything but just > enough
> to mess me up, been battling with that for seven years and i have > hep
> c.......I have done ibogaine a few times and it always helped and also >
> helped my liver and reduced my viral load and enzymes.? i am currently off
> > a low dose of suboxone (.25 mg)? for about 16 days,? just plain >
> tired....anyway good luck on your journey... are you still on subutex??? >
> >? > > Val and junkboy.... > what nice messages, you are the best > >? > >
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> 2013 10:26:11 -0500 > From: Jim Hadey3 > To: > The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] eddie > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddi, > > I and many other people took Ibo with
> Hep C and are alive to talk about it. > I know nothing about medicine but
> if your in mediocre health I think you > will make it.? I did it 4 times
> and ta ta as you know I am still around. > Of course everyone is different,
> maybe you could find out how bad you > liver is then make a decision. > >
> Best, > > ? - JIM > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Eddie Caceres
> wrote: > > > Thanks all for the kind words and the warm welcome. Yes Star
> still on sub > > about 2-3 mg depends on my day don't want to go above
> that. I've been > since > > July ( sub). I haven't considered IBO not
> because of my Hep c but my > > finances and situation at home. Won't be
> easy breaking the news to > family. > > Love and respect to all > > > >
> Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Nov 30, 2013, at 7:42 PM, star ray wrote: >
> > > > Hey Eddie, I pretty much have the same story you do,? did some crazy
> > drugs > > when young, got pregnant and straight for 25 years.. had three
> surgeries, > > right knee, left knee (made it through those with no pain
> pills and > > constant pain) Finally > the rotator cuff shoulder surgery
> was the breaking > > point.? Had to take 1 vicoprophen to go through rehab,
> and then > > started taking some daily.? I never have taken a lot of
> anything but just > > enough to mess me up, been battling with that for
> seven years and i have > > hep c.......I have done ibogaine a few times and
> it always helped and > also > > helped my liver and reduced my viral load
> and enzymes.? i am currently > off > > a low dose of suboxone (.25 mg)? for
> about 16 days,? just plain > > tired....anyway good luck on your journey...
> are you still on subutex?? > > > > Val and junkboy.... what nice messages,
> you are the best > > > > peace and love,? STAR > > > > > > > >? -=[)
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> 2013 00:07:04 -0800 > From: Annette Dilucchio > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] side note on Heroin music > Message-ID: >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I saw Alice in chains in
> concert my first year of college. They actually > played in the cafeteria
> at University of Arizona. Layne Stanley was > amazing. They remain today,
> one of my all time favorite bands. To > answer your question...Bc I also
> had my first stay in a rehab right around > that time, no, Methadone was
> not available except for in a select few > States and it was highly looked
> down upon. Even today, you cannot just go > get on Methadone (correct me if
> I am wrong) w/o having to go through the > humiliating process of signing
> up for a methadone program, then you have to > show up at 5 am with all of
> the rest of the junkies and stand in line for > your take home meds EVERY
> SINGLE DAY bc you cannot be trusted to have an > actual month's worth of
> meds. Again, I could be out of the current loop as > far as this goes AND
> it should be noted that I am one of those really > pathetic cases who got
> into opiates all by herself, without any legitimate > pain problems. > >
> You should watch MTV's Alice in Chains Unplugged...that was the bands' >
> last time playing together before he died. > > Happy late Thanksgiving to
> everyone! > > Annette > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Dec 1, 2013, at 9:00
> PM, danielle yates > wrote: > > > > have > > >
> ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013
> 08:47:51 -0800 (PST) > From: Vector Vector > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] side note on Heroin music > Message-ID: > <
> 1386002871.17192.YahooMailBasic at web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I think that mostly people on
> the ibo list are not going to have any idea > of what you?re talking about
> since you?re posting a reply to a thread > that?s inside mindvox only and
> not going out across this list ;-) There?s > some overlap but I see a lot
> of very old list members inside the system, > but if they?re reading this
> list they haven?t posted to it in years. > > Dana Beal, Patrick Kroupa,
> Preston Peet and others on the same topic in > 2002 when it happened ;-) >
> > http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2002-April/000496.html > >
> -------------------------------------------- > On Mon, 12/2/13, danielle
> yates wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] side note on Heroin music > To: "
> ibogaine at mindvox.com" > Date: Monday, December 2, 2013, 12:00 AM > > P.S.
> ?I'm > thinking of taking down the house on Open Mic Night belting > out,
> "Cold Turkey" loud and proud which is > coincidentally after the weekly PTA
> meeting. ?Any > Thoughts...? ? ? > > > From: danielle yates > > To: > "
> ibogaine at mindvox.com" > > Sent: Sunday, > December 1, 2013 7:57 PM >
> Subject: Re: > side note on Heroin music > > > Okay; I have to say I got a
> HUUUUUUUGE > education on the Heroin Music forum. ?I've never > used Heroin
> but I feel opiates in general are headed in the > same direction so I like
> to here or see what people that are > struggling or overcoming are
> listening to. > ? > DISCLAIMER > ~ NO ONE IS ALOUD TO LAUGH AT ME!!! ?
> (Deep cleansing > breath in) ?Honest to God; I had no idea who any of >
> them were. ?Mostly in regards to never hearing their > music. ?Of course I
> know who John Lennon is but I had > no idea he had a song called "Cold
> Turkey". > ?Most especially ?I didn't know who Alice In > Chains are (they
> were > around during my teen years). ?I have no idea how I > missed that
> (in my adult life). ?The reason for my lack > of exposure, is I was raised
> in a community very similar to > the Amish as I've mentioned before. ?For
> those who > don't know what that is, it's basically a very > strict, and
> disciplined lifestyle centered around the > Christian Faith. ?I had no
> T.V., NO secular music, no > pants (for females) and all the other stuff. >
> When > I watched the AIC video I was like; "HOLY HELL > WHO'S THE BEAUTIFUL
> BLOND DUDE?" ?I mean > really; he had that whole Greek God thang goin ON!
> ?So > naturally I googled his name (Layne Staley) because I wanted > to
> stalk him...er; um, I mean hear more of his music. > ?; ) ? > I > CAN'T
> BELIEVE HE'S DEAD!! ?I know you all dealt > with that about 10 years ago;
> but let me have this. > ?What a sad waste of friggin talent and beauty! >
> ?His story is so depressing! ?He went to 13 > different rehab centers and
> then gave up. ?At one point > he told one of his band mates that; "he
> wasn't > coming back from this. ?This is it." (referring to > Heroin) That
> statement ferments and oozes despair...a > despair I'm sure many of us have
> felt while contending > with the same demons. > Clearly > I need a crash
> course on the Grunge time period as I was in > Church while all that was
> going on (not by my own free > will). ? Well wait; I was in Church mostly.
> ?The > rest of the time I was in Sin City learning about all the > things I
> wasn't supposed to look at. ?: D > So > this is my question: ?Was Ibogaine
> available or known > in those social circles? ?Was the concept of a >
> "maintenance program" with methadone or sub being > utilized? ?Did rehabs
> have meds to allow for a detox > that didn't involve wanting to off
> yourself? ?Feel > free to volunteer any pertinent details. > This > begs
> the question; who has died or is curled up in their > home, more consumed
> with feeding their habit than getting > busy with the God given gifts they
> have? ?What if one > of those fatalities would've found a cure for Cancer?
> > ?What if one of those lives could have made the > difference between war
> and peace in the Middle East Crisis? > ?What about all the beautiful babies
> that will never > take their first breadth, or the love stories that were >
> robbed of their > season to bloom? ?It's beyond my ability to wrap > my
> mind around the catastrophic damage that happens every > where, all the
> time, on a daily basis because of addiction. > ? > It > makes me so utterly
> sad to think about. > > > > From: > "ibogaine-request at mindvox.com" > >
> To: > ibogaine at mindvox.com > Sent: Sunday, > December 1, 2013 10:00 AM >
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> > digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > ? 1. Re: Iboga Vissions (Valarie) >
> ? 2. Re: wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice > xmas, happy > ? ? ?
> new year and everything! (Valarie) > ? 3. Re: wanna say goodbye, wanna wish
> you all nice > xmas, happy > ? ? ? new year and everything! (Jeff G) > ? 4.
> Re: Homeland (Valarie) > ? 5. Re: Homeland (Nyc Labret?) > ? 6. Re:
> Homeland (Jim Hadey3) > ? 7. (no subject) (Jim Hadey3) > ? 8. eddie (star
> ray) > ? 9. Re: Homeland (Sergey Sibirian) > ? 10. Re: wanna say goodbye,
> wanna wish you all nice > xmas, happy > ? ? ? new year and everything!
> (Sergey > Sibirian) > ? 11. Star, Val? and all (danielle yates) > ? 12. Re:
> (no subject) (Sergey Sibirian) > ? 13. Re: Homeland (Randy Faulconer) > ?
> 14. Re: (no subject) (Randy Faulconer) > ? 15. Re: (no subject) (Jim >
> Hadey3) > ? 16. Re: (no subject) (Valarie) > ? 17. Re: eddie (Eddie
> Caceres) > ? 18. Re: eddie (Jim Hadey3) > > >
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> Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 10:38:26 -0800 > From: Valarie > To:
> The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: >
> ??? > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Leo, I >
> definitely agree with Sergie. > It is very dangerous to stop taking
> benzodiazepine before > you do > ibogaine, > do to risk of seizures. > This
> one ibogaine facility I called told me to stop taking > xanex one week >
> before my treatment which is absolutely CRAZY and I told > them that they >
> were going to kill someone. > Once I found out about Ibogaine I made a hard
> decision to go > from Xanex to > Colonzapam.? I have had plenty of seizures
> due to > benzodiazepine > withdrawal, and had to be careful. > I don't know
> if the Ibogaine helped with not needing as > much but my benzo > intake has
> gone down significantly since I did my > treatment. > I am actually only
> taking half of the dose which is > prescribed to me, and > find it easier
> to taper since I did my ibogaine treatment. > Because I had to take the
> colonzapam during my treatment I > did not have > very many visions,
> Ibogaine of course was still greatly > beneficial as I am > now off opiots
> after 13 years of use. > I hope to be completely off the colonzapam within
> 3 months > and would like > to > do Ibogaine again for spiritual purposes.
> > Which is why I asked about HCL vs TA. > > Lotsof Love,? Val > On Nov 30,
> 2013 7:54 AM, "Sergey Sibirian" > wrote: > > > Val, Leo > > > > Benzos
> addiction is by far the worst IN TERMS OF > PHYSICAL DEPENDANCY. > > I'm
> not talking ADDICTION AS A WHOLE. > > From what I read and researched, Ibo
> does NOT reset > benzo addiction. > > And it makes sense, to me at least. >
> > If opioids fuck with the endorphine system in our > brain, the benzos
> fuck > > with > > Our brains much more basic system: homeostasys and >
> GABBA. > > Homeostatys is basically a state of balance the brain > has to
> maintain at > > any price between the "up" and > "down" states. > > Between
> stimulation/action and > depression/deactivation. > > And this is > exactly
> what delirium tremens > is: > > The brain has been long "down" stimulated
> by > alcohol, which also acts on > > GABBA receptors. > > So when a person
> abruptly stops drinking, the > "up" part of brain is > > active, while the
> "down" waits for alcohol to > do its job. > > The result is a loss of
> balance in favor of the > "up", and delirium tremens > > sets in. > >
> Convulsions, hallucinations, and ultimately possible > coma or death... > >
> > > With heroin/opioids, no matter the severity of WD, > there's no danger
> of > > death. > > With GABBA agonists, such as benzos and alcohol, there >
> is. > > All that to point out that benzo addiction is very > serious and in
> my > > humble opinion, should NEVER be interrupted > > But rather tapered
> down. > > But then again, I'm no expert on benzo addiction, > although I've
> personally > > witnessed two persons being brought to the hospital > > In
> state of coma due to alcohol WD. > > That > pretty much shocked me so I did
> some research and NEVER > touch benzos. > > > > Wish you well > > > >
> Sergey > > > > > > On Saturday, 30 November 2013, leomroz24 wrote: > > > >>
> So it did help you with the Benzo dt's? I have > heard from some people >
> >> that it does not take away the withdrawals from > benzo and also I have
> heard > >> many people getting rid of there addiction since it > took them
> to the root > >> of why they had anxiety to begin with. I have been > on
> benzo's for 7 years > >> or so and have cut my dose down to about 1mg per >
> day, sometimes less but I > >> just cant seem to kick these damn things. >
> >> > >> > >> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Valarie > wrote: > >> > >>>
> As most of you know I did not > get very many visions during > my ibogaine
> > >>> treatment which was a disappointment to me. > >>> Since I did
> Ibogaine I have cut my Colonzapam > intake in half from 6mgs > >>> to 3
> mgs. > >>> Before treatment and tapering to > Colonzapam? I had been on
> 6-14mgs of > >>> xanex a day for over 10years > >>> I am sure this is why
> bidding get very many > visions. > >>> I plan to be off the colonzapam
> completely in > about 3 months and want to > >>> do another treatment > >>>
> Should I get the TA or HCL again? > >>> My boyfriend will probably watch me
> since my > favorite person in the > >>> world who treated me lives in a
> different > state. > >>> I heard the TA is more for visions,? and > HCL is
> more for the addiction > >>> is this true? > >>> Thanks for your continued
> help. > >>> Lotsof Love,? > Val > >>> > >>> > >>>? -=[) ::::::: MindVox |
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> 2013 11:06:43 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you > all nice > ??? xmas, happy
> new year and everything! > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Have a nice trip > MiGo! > Love ya, Val > On Nov
> 30, 2013 7:39 AM, "Mi Go" > wrote: > > > hey good people from the forum, >
> > > > first of all i really appreciate to be member of that > forum, first
> time i > > found a forum or people with a lot of knowledge about > that
> plant and > > medicine where im much interested in, its really hard > often
> to get any > > usefull information! > > > > i wanna say thx for all the
> replies and infos i got til > now and wish you > > all a happy xmas etc.
> etc. i dont know if i have any > inet connection there > > where i go, i
> have a doubt on that hehe, anyway i will > log in, as often its > >
> possible, > > > > stand strong and take care everybody, have fun and keep >
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> 2013 11:09:01 -0800 > From: Jeff G > To: The Ibogaine > List > Subject: Re:
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> new year and everything! > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Good luck... > Stay safe. > Freak Freely! > Peace
> > JeffG > On Nov 30, 2013 7:09 AM, "Mi Go" > wrote: > > > hey good people
> from the forum, > > > > first of all > i really appreciate to be member of
> that forum, first time > i > > found a forum or people with a lot of
> knowledge about > that plant > and > > medicine where im much interested
> in, its really hard > often to get any > > usefull information! > > > > i
> wanna say thx for all the replies and infos i got til > now and wish you >
> > all a happy xmas etc. etc. i dont know if i have any > inet connection
> there > > where i go, i have a doubt on that hehe, anyway i will > log in,
> as often its > > possible, > > > > stand strong and take care everybody,
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> 2013 11:09:36 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain; >
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Wow Eddie, You have a lot going on. When I was on
> Subutex my > depression got > really bad the 2nd year. I hope you continue
> to post on > here, and I will > keep you in my thoughts. > Lotsof Love, Val
> > On Nov 30, 2013 7:24 AM, "Eddie Caceres" > wrote: > > > Hey Serg > >?
> Long story I'll try keep it short. Was an H > addict for some time used > >
> everything under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, got > clean in 1990 (
> rehab) > > after trying countless detoxes and col turkey. Stood > clean and
> sober thru > > 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had an injury in my job > that
> required shoulder > > surgery. Didn't really abuse the meds >
> vics,Percocet. But the monster was > > released. And I'm hooked tried the
> done for a while > 2mons 30mgs couldn't > > deal with that shit. So I tried
> > this wonder drug subutex so I > thought been > > on it since about
> 6months 2-3mg a day even though my > doctor wanted me on > > 8-16 a day.
> Can't tell you the world of depression > I'm in. But I've been > >
> researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister and the guy that > was on the Hbo >
> > program for ibo (vice). EKG was good but my liver is in > bad shape (hepc
> +) > > can't really afford to go to a clinic but most of > all I can't even
> break > > the news to my family. I've been hiding my > addiction. But we
> all know what > > doesn't come out in the wash comes out in the >
> rinse.lol. I truly respect > > you all on this forum and know what I have
> to do but > drugs and > > procrastination is a mother -ucker. And no one in
> a 12 > step program would > > even understand Ibo so I don't mention it to
> them. > I consider myself a > > spiritual person and been relying on that a
> lot . Got a > good job good > > family but emotionally I'm falling apart. >
> Especially after > experiencing all > > those years without using. This
> disease is brutal to > say the least. Hope I > > answered your question.
> Feel free to ask away I'm > open to suggestion. P.S. > > I've been working
> out a bit since my shoulder is > still messed up. I've been > > feeling
> better,my appetite is getting better and > started talking my > > vitamins
> again. I was big on that and had stopped. Or > one more thing I'm > > also
> a diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and respect > Ed. > > > > Sent from
> my iPad > > > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian > > wrote: >
> > > > Hi Eddie, > > > > How do you relate to Ibo yourself? > > If you don't
> mind sharing. > > > > Wish you well > > > > Sergey > > > > > > On Mon, Nov
> 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, > Eddie Caceres > wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi all. I'm
> Eddie been following this list for > a while I just don't > >> comment
> much. But respect you all. Just wanted to > share that on last nights > >>
> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the > main character Hooked
> on > >> H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested > Ibogaine and they
> gave it to > >> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. > Peace >
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> 2013 14:45:53 -0500 > From: Nyc Labret? > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > Yours is a more common AA/NA story than you may
> realize. > > This is anecdotal but when I was in those rooms in the late >
> 80s > early/mid > 90s anecdotal lore was that the highest suicide rate was
> > among those with > +20 years of sobriety. > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at
> 2:09 PM, Valarie > wrote: > > > Wow Eddie, You have a lot going on. When I
> was on > Subutex my depression > > got really bad the 2nd year. I hope you
> continue to > post on here, and I > > will keep you in my thoughts. > >
> Lotsof Love, Val > > On Nov 30, 2013 7:24 AM, "Eddie Caceres" > > wrote: >
> > > >> Hey Serg > >>? Long story I'll try keep it short. Was an > H addict
> for some time used > >> everything under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, >
> got clean in 1990 ( rehab) > >> after trying countless > detoxes and col
> turkey. Stood clean and sober thru > >> 12 > step programs for 21 yrs. Had
> an injury in my job that > required shoulder > >> surgery. Didn't really
> abuse the meds > vics,Percocet. But the monster was > >> released. And I'm
> hooked tried the done for a > while 2mons 30mgs couldn't > >> deal with
> that shit. So I tried this wonder drug > subutex so I thought been > >> on
> it since about 6months 2-3mg a day even though > my doctor wanted me on >
> >> 8-16 a day. Can't tell you the world of > depression I'm in. But I've
> been > >> researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister and the guy > that was on
> the Hbo > >> program for ibo (vice). EKG was good but my liver > is in bad
> shape (hepc +) > >> can't really afford to go to a clinic but most > of all
> I can't even break > >> the news to my family. I've been hiding my >
> addiction. But we all know what > >> doesn't come out in the wash comes out
> in the > rinse.lol. I truly respect > >> you all on this forum and > know
> what I have to do but drugs and > >> procrastination is a mother -ucker.
> And no one in a > 12 step program would > >> even understand Ibo so I don't
> mention it to > them. I consider myself a > >> spiritual person and been
> relying on that a lot . > Got a good job good > >> family but emotionally
> I'm falling apart. > Especially after experiencing all > >> those years
> without using. This disease is brutal > to say the least. Hope I > >>
> answered your question. Feel free to ask away > I'm open to suggestion.
> P.S. > >> I've been working out a bit since my shoulder > is still messed
> up. I've been > >> feeling better,my appetite is getting better and >
> started talking my > >> vitamins again. I was big on that and had stopped.
> > Or one more thing I'm > >> also a diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and
> > respect Ed. > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> On Nov 29, 2013, at
> 10:36 > PM, Sergey Sibirian > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Eddie, > >> > >> How
> do you relate to Ibo yourself? > >> If you don't mind sharing. > >> > >>
> Wish you well > >> > >> Sergey > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16
> AM, Eddie Caceres > > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi all. I'm Eddie been
> following this list > for a while I just don't > >>> comment much. But
> respect you all. Just wanted > to share that on last nights > >>> episode
> of Homeland on Showtime showed one of > the main character Hooked on > >>>
> H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested > Ibogaine > and they gave it
> to > >>> him. At least Hollywood > acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > >>>
> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>>? -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List >
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> charset="utf-8" > > Hi Eddie, > > Yeah once you get hooked on opiates it
> does not take much to > get it > rekindled.? Since you used to use H you
> know what the > early symptoms of > w/d > are and you will have cravings
> and have the urge; you could > say your back > to square one but this time
> it will be a little > different.? Most people no > matter how hard they try
> can not get off that wonderful Sub; > they got to go > to SAOs (short
> acting opiates - perks, codiene, oxy and > morphine) for 3 > months they do
> an Ibo detox.? That is you take SAOs and > try to get as low > as you can
> get, but no Sub or Methadone for they are too > long lasting.? If > you try
> and skip the SAO step your setting yourself up for > failure.? That > is
> just what I have heard for I never been on Sub and glad. > > Best, > > ? -
> JIM > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Nyc Labret? >wrote: > > >
> Yours is a more common AA/NA story than you may > realize. > > > > This is
> anecdotal but > when I was in those rooms in the late 80s early/mid > > 90s
> anecdotal lore was that the highest suicide rate > was among those with > >
> +20 years of sobriety. > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Valarie
> > wrote: > > > >> Wow Eddie, You have a lot going on. When I was on >
> Subutex my depression > >> got really bad the 2nd year. I hope you continue
> to > post on here, and I > >> will keep you in my thoughts. > >> Lotsof
> Love, Val > >> On Nov 30, 2013 7:24 AM, "Eddie Caceres" > > wrote: > >> >
> >>> Hey Serg > >>>? Long story I'll try keep it short. > Was an H addict
> for some time used > >>> everything > under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid,
> got clean in 1990 ( > rehab) > >>> after trying countless detoxes and col
> turkey. > Stood clean and sober thru > >>> 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had
> an injury in > my job that required shoulder > >>> surgery. Didn't really
> abuse the meds > vics,Percocet. But the monster was > >>> released. And I'm
> hooked tried the done for > a while 2mons 30mgs couldn't > >>> deal with
> that shit. So I tried this wonder > drug subutex so I thought been > >>> on
> it since about 6months 2-3mg a day even > though my doctor wanted me on >
> >>> 8-16 a day. Can't tell you the world of > depression I'm in. But I've
> been > >>> researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister and the > guy that was on
> the Hbo > >>> program for ibo (vice). EKG was good but my > liver is in bad
> shape (hepc +) > >>> can't really afford to go to a clinic but > most of
> all I can't even break > >>> the news to my family. I've been hiding my >
> addiction. But we all know what > >>> doesn't come out in the wash comes
> out in > the rinse.lol. I truly respect > >>> you all on this forum and
> know what I have to > do but drugs and > >>> procrastination is a mother
> -ucker. And no one > in a 12 step program would > >>> even understand Ibo
> so I don't mention it > to them. I consider myself a > >>> spiritual person
> and been relying on that a lot > . Got a good job good > >>> family but
> emotionally I'm falling apart. > Especially after experiencing all > >>>
> those years without using. This disease is > brutal to say the least. Hope
> I > >>> answered your question. Feel free to ask away > I'm open to
> suggestion. P.S. > >>> I've been working out a bit since my > shoulder is
> still messed up. I've been > >>> feeling better,my appetite is getting
> better > and started talking my > >>> vitamins again. I was big on that and
> > had stopped. Or one more thing I'm > >>> also a diabetic with an insulin
> pump. Love and > respect Ed. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>> On
> Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>? Hi
> Eddie, > >>> > >>> How do you relate to Ibo yourself? > >>> If you don't
> mind sharing. > >>> > >>> Wish you well > >>> > >>> Sergey > >>> > >>> >
> >>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres > > wrote: > >>> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi all. I'm Eddie been following > this list for a while I just
> don't > >>>> comment > much. But respect you all. Just wanted to share that
> on > last nights > >>>> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one > of the
> main character Hooked on > >>>> H and going thru bad wds so someone >
> suggested Ibogaine and they gave it to > >>>> him. At least Hollywood
> acknowledges it. > Hooray. Peace > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>?
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> [Ibogaine] (no subject) > Message-ID: > ??? > > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > Hi Serge, > > Google? ? reverse opiate tolerance? this
> is > the first page. > > (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid
> tolerance? - > Bluelight >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc..
> > .? > > > Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > I often hear people say
> the only thing that > can reverse tolerance to > opioids is time without
> taking the drug, or that you can > only slow > the > ...(opioids) Using
> naloxone to counter tolerance 14 posts > May 11, 2012 > DXM - The Opiate
> Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE READ 25 > posts Aug 18, 2010 > NMDA
> antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... 25 > posts May 5, 2010 >
> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10, 2007 > More results
> from www.bluelight.ru > > Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to
> opiate > analgesics in ... > www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > > by
> Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > Five patients on
> chronic opiate medication to treat low-back > and leg pain > were
> determined to have developed opiate tolerance on the > basis of their >
> failure to ... > Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor >
> Sensitivity ... > www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & >
> Opioids? > > > Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > Pharmacology - Opioid
> Tolerance: Reversing Receptor > Sensitivity ... and can > prevent or > even
> reverse the development of tolerance to opioid > ...Tolerance > - Does
> tolerance never fully go away? 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > Combinations -
> Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 posts > Jan 11, 2011 > Addiction -
> Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts Apr 8, > 2010 > Effects - Possible
> reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, 2010 > More results from
> www.drugs-forum.com > > Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain -
> HealingWell.com > Forum > www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases &
> Conditions ? > Chronic Pain? > > > May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4 authors > I
> have been using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and > oxycodone) for 6 years,
> > ... Though there are drugs to permanently reverse tolerance > for ... >
> Changing concepts of opioid tolerance >
> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > > > What these
> classical studies showed is that tolerance does > develop to > opioid .....
> are associated with dramatic reduction in pain > and > rapid > reversal of
> tolerance. > Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance - Social >
> Anxiety Forum > www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery ?
> Medication? > > > Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > According to this
> research video, they found that THC can > synergize with > Opioids and
> decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. I > got my ... > Does anything
> other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive ... >
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > > > Feb 8, 2006 - 16
> posts - ?11 authors > The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough "doubling" >
> of opiate effects ... > effectiveness AND the prevention/reversal of
> tolerance > through the use ... > [PDF] > Inhibition of opiate tolerance by
> non-competitive N ... - > Deep Blue >
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? > >
> > by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > The NMDA antagonists were
> found to inhibit the development > but not > the > expression of opiate
> tolerance; i.e. they were able to > prevent but not > reverse tolerance. >
> This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance. It's > also an opiate
> ... >
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc...?
> > > Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate > tolerance. It's
> also > an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled substance in > the
> U.S. but its > no longer ... > Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to
> opiate ... - > ScienceDirect >
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > > by Y
> Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > Mar 27, 2003 - Five
> patients on chronic opiate medication to > treat low-back > and leg pain
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> 2013 18:42:39 -0600 > From: star ray > To: "ibogaine at mindvox.com" > >
> Subject: [Ibogaine] eddie > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hey Eddie, I > pretty much have the same story you
> do,? did some > crazy drugs when young, got pregnant and straight for 25 >
> years.. had three surgeries, right knee, left knee (made it > through those
> with no pain pills and constant pain) Finally > the rotator cuff shoulder
> surgery was the breaking > point.? Had to take 1 vicoprophen to go through
> rehab, > and then started taking some daily.? I never have taken > a lot of
> anything but just enough to mess me up, been > battling with that for seven
> years and i have hep c.......I > have done ibogaine a few times and it
> always helped and also > helped my liver and reduced my viral load and
> enzymes.? > i am currently off a low dose of suboxone (.25 mg)? for > about
> 16 days,? just plain tired....anyway good luck on > your journey... are you
> still on subutex??? > > Val and junkboy.... what nice messages, you are the
> best > > peace and love,? STAR > > ??? ??? > ??? ? ??? > ??? ? >
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> 2013 20:32:35 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddie, > > I hear you. > 20 years
> of sobriety is already saying a lot about you. > Every life story is
> unique, contrary to an opinion I saw > above, and a > person's suffering
> cannot be measured in comparison to > anothers. > That's my opinion. > >
> Hep C and Diabetes are a big weight, I can only imagine. > So does that
> mean you cannot use Ibo? > There are compounds being isolated from Iboga,
> which are > BELIEVED to be > responsible for WD interuption. > MC-18 is one
> of those. > There's some interesting info about the subject on >
> Ibogamind.com > Very resourceful website: stands out from the rest FOR ME.
> > > I wish you well Eddie, > we'll talk more. > > Sergey > > On Friday, 29
> November 2013, Eddie Caceres wrote: > > > > Hey Serg > >? Long story I'll
> try keep it short. Was an H > addict for some time used > > everything
> under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, got > clean in 1990 ( rehab) > >
> after trying countless detoxes and col turkey. Stood > clean and sober thru
> > > 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had an injury in my job > that required
> shoulder > > surgery. Didn't really abuse the meds > vics,Percocet. But the
> monster was > > released. And I'm hooked tried the done for a while > 2mons
> 30mgs couldn't > > deal with that shit. So I tried this wonder drug >
> subutex so I thought been > > on it since about 6months 2-3mg a day even
> though my > doctor wanted me on > > 8-16 a day. Can't tell you the world of
> depression > I'm in. But I've been > > researching ibo spoke to Buddy,
> Sister and the guy that > was on the Hbo > > program for ibo (vice). EKG
> was good but my liver is in > bad shape (hepc +) > > can't really afford to
> go to a clinic but most > of all I can't even break > > the news to my
> family. I've been hiding my > addiction. But we all know what > > doesn't
> come out in the wash comes out in the > rinse.lol. I truly respect > > you
> all on this forum and know what I have to do but > drugs and > >
> procrastination is a mother -ucker. And no one in a 12 > step program would
> > > even understand Ibo so I don't mention it to them. > I consider myself
> a > > spiritual person and been relying on that a lot . Got a > good job
> good > > family but emotionally I'm falling apart. > Especially after
> experiencing all > > those years without using. This disease is brutal to >
> say the least. Hope I > > answered your question. Feel free to ask away I'm
> > open to suggestion. P.S. > > I've been working out a bit since my
> shoulder is > still messed up. I've been > > feeling better,my appetite is
> getting better and > started talking my > > vitamins again. I was big on
> that and had > stopped. Or one more thing I'm > > also a diabetic with an
> insulin pump. Love and respect > Ed. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On
> Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian 'cvml', 'sibirianfox at gmail.com');>>
> > > wrote: > > > > Hi Eddie, > > > > How do you relate to Ibo yourself? > >
> If you don't mind sharing. > > > > Wish you well > > > > Sergey > > > > > >
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres 'cvml', 'ebrvwarr at aol.com');>
> > > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi all. I'm Eddie been following this list for
> > a while I just don't > >> comment much. But respect you all. Just wanted
> to > share that on last nights > >> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed
> one of the > main character Hooked on > >> H and going thru bad wds so
> someone suggested > Ibogaine and they gave it to > >> him. At least
> Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. > Peace > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> >
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> 2013 20:40:10 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you > all nice > ???
> xmas, happy new year and everything! > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Mi go, > > Mi go, mein freund! > Ich
> wunsche dir ein freuliche Weinachten und viel Spass! > > Enjoy yourself and
> the new year. > > Sergey > > On Saturday, 30 November 2013, Mi Go wrote: >
> > > hey good people from the forum, > > > > first of all i really
> appreciate to be member of that > forum, first time i > > found a forum or
> people with a lot of knowledge about > that plant and > > medicine where im
> much interested in, its really hard > often to get any > > usefull
> information! > > > > i wanna say thx for all the replies and infos i got
> til > now and wish you > > all a > happy xmas etc. etc. i dont know if i
> have any inet > connection there > > where i go, i have a doubt on that
> hehe, anyway i will > log in, as often its > > possible, > > > > stand
> strong and take care everybody, have fun and keep > up the good work, > >
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> 2013 10:51:53 -0800 (PST) > From: danielle yates > To: "
> ibogaine at mindvox.com" > > Subject: [Ibogaine] Star, Val? and all >
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> 1385837513.43534.YahooMailNeo at web184302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello... > Star and Val
> thanks for the kind words, I've considered > Kratom. ?Right now it's a
> white knuckle ride with > nothing...other than a face plant before
> Thanksgiving. > ?I'm under no illusions about how > temporary my current
> state of "clean" will be if > I don't implement real, tangible
> intervention. ?All I > know is I'm taking bb steps...(as advised on this
> very > forum). > > Also to those > that shared your Thanksgiving thoughts I
> think you're > incredibly inspirational and I'm so, so, so very glad > that
> I don't have to be alone when facing major > obstacles that seem
> overwhelming. ?If it weren't for you > Trail Blazers I don't think I would
> even attempt such a > harrowing journey. ? > @ Eddie, Hello and nice to
> meet you. > > > > ________________________________ > From: "
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> 2. Re: Iboganights (Valarie) > ?? 3. Re: Danielle (Valarie) > ?? 4. Re:
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> > ?? 8. Re: Homeland (Nyc Labret?) > ?? 9. Iboga Vissions (Valarie) > ? 10.
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> wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all nice xmas,??? > happy new > ? ? ?
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> Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:43:53 -0700 > From: junkboy > To:
> The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] > Iboganights > Message-ID: >
> ??? > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > jeffg, > im glad
> you posted being grateful. it helped me to remember > how grateful i > am
> to not have that damned monkey on my back anymore. this > list has helped >
> me a ton. thanks for everyone who has reached out and helped > me on my >
> journey from being a drug addicted crazy person to a clean > crazy person.
> > ibogaine is definitely a tool that has helped change my > life. it
> actually > did not FIX me.. it just helped me along on my journey. > ?? ive
> learned that i have to do the work to help > myself, to find something >
> that fills that emptiness that is inside me that wants to be > filled >
> with > drugs, self destructive behavior, and chaos. im working to >
> overcome myself. > its > not an easy process, but so far has been totally
> worth it. > i like quick fixes. well, im learning that there there are > no
> quick fixes. > quoting from NA its one day at a time. > plugging away at my
> issues, trying to let go of beliefs that > are not > working, and letting
> other people into my heart seems to be > working for me. > other than a
> stint earler this year involving the emergency > room, morphine > and a
> take home script of perc's, its been good. > i want to say thank you to
> everyone on this list, everyone > who has emailed > me privately and
> chatted with me, my wife who can somehow > put up with me, > my NA group,
> and others who have helped take this broken, > sad, depressed > and
> desperate shell of a human being, and helped me to grow > into a person >
> who is healing and becoming whole again. > there is hope. > all it takes is
> a little work every day. > some support > some love. > some taking, > some
> giving > some compromise, > some > pain, > some compassion > some random
> acts of kindness > and a letting go of hate, self loathing, pride, and
> thinking > you are the > cock of the walk. > your not.. just human like all
> the rest of us.. > love you guys and gals.. > junkboy > > > On Fri, Nov 29,
> 2013 at 10:55 AM, Jeff G > wrote: > > > Saw this inside mindvox, thought it
> might be something > the list here would > > like to see. > > Sergey?? > >
> > > http://iboganights.co.uk/ > > > > And happy thanksgiving to all of
> you, I'm grateful > for you, this list, and > > for being unsprung from my
> methadone habit....and for > finally seeing that > > all the 'reasons' I
> had to be high were > basically full of shit. > > Sometimes I wish I
> didn't, but > mostly I'm really glad. > > Peace > > > JeffG > > > > > >??
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> 2013 15:12:13 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] Iboganights > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Yes, Thank you too all who have helped me get
> clean and stay > clean. > Ibogaine was a big part in my recovery. > I have
> gone cold turkey plenty of times but once I had been > on Methadone >
> maintenance then Sub maintenance then methadone again then > Sub again all
> of > these maintenance for 12 years left me to afraid to detox. > If it
> were not for Ibogaine I would have never got off that > merry go round. >
> In order for me to stay clean I am going to an outpatient > program > from
> > 10-1pm then I go to a place called the Wellness Center from > 1-5pm and
> it > gets dark so early now > because of daylights savings it's already
> dark by > 5pm, > I go home have dinner then go to bed, so my day is now
> full. > Before I could > not stop thinking about getting high, Now I am
> keeping > myself busy. You all > kept telling me but I was being lazy . >
> Thank you to everyone on this list. I could not have gotten > sober without
> > you. > Now I get to go on here to keep my recovery going with all > your
> help and > help others by sharing my experience. You can get off >
> Methadone! You can > get off Sub! > You don't need to go back to heroin and
> end up dying to > do ibogaine you can > use kratom for that short time.
> Then depending on how your > provider feels > detox from that or they might
> put you on a SAO for a couple > days. Then > Ibogaine!!!!! > Don't let the
> 3 months scare you. > Love you all. > Lotsof Love, Val > On Nov 29, 2013
> 11:28 AM, "junkboy" > wrote: > > > jeffg, > > im glad you posted being
> grateful. it helped me to > remember how grateful i > > am to not have that
> damned monkey on my back anymore. > this list has helped > > me a ton.
> thanks for everyone who has reached out and > helped me on my > > journey
> from being a drug addicted crazy person to a > clean crazy person. > >
> ibogaine is definitely a tool that has helped change my > life. it actually
> > > did not FIX me.. it just helped me along on my > journey. > >? ? ive
> learned that i have to do the work to help > myself, to find > > something
> that fills that emptiness that is inside me > that wants to be > > filled
> with drugs, self destructive behavior, and > chaos. im working to > >
> overcome myself. its not an easy process, but so far > has been totally
> worth > > it. > > i like quick fixes. well, im learning that there there >
> are no quick > fixes. > > quoting from NA its one day at a time. > >
> plugging away at my issues, trying to let go of beliefs > that are not > >
> working, and letting other people into my heart seems > to be working for
> me. > > other than a stint earler this year involving the > emergency room,
> morphine > > and a take home script of perc's, its been good. > > i want to
> say thank you to everyone on this list, > everyone who has emailed > > me
> privately and chatted with me, my wife who can > somehow put up with me, >
> > my NA group, and others who have helped take this > broken, sad,
> depressed > > and desperate shell of a human being, and helped me to > grow
> into a person > > who is healing and becoming whole again. > > there is
> hope. > > all it takes is a little work every day. > > some support > >
> some love. > > some taking, > > some giving > > some compromise, > > some
> pain, > > some compassion > > some > random acts of kindness > > and a
> letting go of hate, self loathing, pride, and > thinking you are the > >
> cock of the walk. > > your not.. just human like all the rest of us.. > >
> love you guys and gals.. > > junkboy > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at
> 10:55 AM, Jeff G > wrote: > > > >> Saw this inside mindvox, thought it
> might be > something the list here > >> would like to see. > >> Sergey?? >
> >> > >> http://iboganights.co.uk/ > >> > >> And happy thanksgiving to all
> of you, I'm > grateful for you, this list, > >> and for being unsprung from
> my methadone > habit....and for finally seeing > >> that all the 'reasons'
> I had to be high > were basically full of > shit. > >> Sometimes I wish I
> didn't, but > mostly I'm really glad. > >> Peace > >> JeffG > >> > >> >
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> 2013 15:24:05 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] Danielle > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Daniel, I don't know > if you have looked into
> this but it is safer then > going on pills that will be abused and not to
> mention > expensive, or go to > heroin. > Kratomassociation.org > I know of
> > a few people personally who are staying off Methadone this > way, > and I
> personally used it to help me get off Subutex, untill > I had a > seizure.?
> If you have a history of seizures high doses of > Kratom can make > you
> easily seizure susceptible. > Lotsof Love, Val > On Nov 28, 2013 5:33 PM,
> "star ray" > wrote: > > > > > Wow Danielle, thanks for sharing your
> story....you have > been through > > alot... now personally i am not sure
> how long you have > to be off methadone > > to have a successful ibogaine
> treatment but i am sure > someone on this list > > knows... I think
> ibogaine is definitely a good idea for > you... whatever you > > do, if
> ibogaine is your plan, do not go back on > methadone or suboxone!!!! > > >
> > Happy Thanksgiving, gotta go , my son and i are bonding > over a > movie
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> 2013 21:06:46 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: > The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboganights > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Jeff, > > Very interesting! > I
> understand it's the guy's website,-David Graham > Scott,- the one who made
> > the movie "Detox or Die" > > There's one thing I find funny. > At the
> "home" page, if you let the pics slide by, > the last pic to appear, > it's
> a guy, Iain. > But he looks like he just OD'd on smack and has foam and >
> like clouded eyes! > ? > :D > > I really respect that David Graham Scott
> character. > He's a smart fella, and he really put his Ibo EXP to >
> everyones benefit. > > Wish you well > > Sergey > > > > On Fri, Nov 29, >
> 2013 at 12:55 PM, Jeff G > wrote: > > > Saw this inside mindvox, thought it
> might be something > the list here would > > like to see. > > Sergey?? > >
> > > http://iboganights.co.uk/ > > > > And happy thanksgiving to all of
> you, I'm grateful > for you, this list, and > > for being unsprung from my
> methadone habit....and for > finally seeing that > > all the 'reasons' I
> had to be high were > basically full of shit. > > Sometimes I wish I
> didn't, but mostly I'm > really glad. > > Peace > > JeffG > > > > > >??
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> 2013 18:29:37 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddie: ) > On Nov 25, 2013 10:59 AM, "Eddie
> Caceres" > wrote: > > > > > Hi all. I'm Eddie been following this list for
> a > while I just don't > > comment much. But respect you all. Just wanted
> to share > that on last nights > > episode of Homeland on Showtime showed
> one of the main > character Hooked on > > H and going thru bad wds so
> someone suggested Ibogaine > and they gave it to > > him. At least
> Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >??
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> 2013 21:38:03 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: [Ibogaine] Anyone remember??? > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hi crowd, > > A few weeks ago I was
> researching all kinds > of molecules THAT REVERSE TOLERANCE. > > Proglumide
> is a top example, > but there were much more. > > All kinds of compounds
> that have different medical uses, > usually > not at all associated with
> substance abuse? > > CAN ANYONE REMEMBER THE NAMES? > I would really
> appreciate since I lost track and can't > find any? > > Thanks! > > Sergey
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> 2013 22:36:35 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddie, > > How do you relate to Ibo
> yourself? > If you don't mind sharing. > > Wish you well > > Sergey > > >
> On Mon, > Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres > wrote: > > > > > Hi all.
> I'm Eddie been following this list for a > while I just don't > > comment
> much. But respect you all. Just wanted to share > that on last nights > >
> episode of Homeland on Showtime showed one of the main > character Hooked
> on > > H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested Ibogaine > and they
> gave it to > > him. At least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > >
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> 2013 22:46:19 -0500 > From: Nyc Labret? > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > I edited out all > the sideplots and posted the entire
> sequence here, > >
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rvyytmfum5pkl99/BrodyTreatedWithIbogaineOnHL.movfeel> free to pass along the link or download it. > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at
> 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres > wrote: > > > > > Hi all. I'm Eddie been following
> this list for a > while I just don't > > comment much. But respect you all.
> Just wanted to share > that on last nights > > episode of Homeland on
> Showtime showed one of the main > character Hooked on > > H and going thru
> bad wds so someone suggested Ibogaine > and they gave it to > > him. At
> least Hollywood acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > > Sent from my iPhone > >
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> 2013 23:48:22 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The > Ibogaine List > Subject:
> [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > As most of you know I did not get very many
> visions during > my ibogaine > treatment which was a disappointment to me.
> > Since I did Ibogaine I have cut my Colonzapam intake in half > from 6mgs
> to 3 > mgs. > Before treatment and tapering to Colonzapam? I had been on >
> 6-14mgs of xanex > a day for over 10years > I am sure this is why bidding
> get very many visions. > I plan to be off the colonzapam completely in
> about 3 months > and want to do > another treatment > Should I > get the TA
> or HCL again? > My boyfriend will probably watch me > since my favorite
> person in the world > who treated me lives in a different state. > I heard
> the TA is more for visions,? and HCL is more for the > addiction is > this
> true? > Thanks for your continued help. > Lotsof Love,? Val >
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> 2013 05:00:30 -0600 > From: leomroz24 > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: > ??? > > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > So it did help you with the Benzo
> dt's? I have heard > from some people that > it does not take away the
> withdrawals from benzo and also I > have heard many > people getting rid of
> there addiction since it took them to > the root of why > they had anxiety
> to begin with. I have been on benzo's > for 7 years or so > and have cut my
> dose down to about 1mg per day, sometimes > less but I just > cant seem to
> kick these damn things. > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Valarie >
> wrote: > > > As most of you know I did not get very many visions > during
> my ibogaine > > treatment which was a disappointment to me. > > Since I did
> Ibogaine I have cut my Colonzapam intake in > half from 6mgs to > > 3 mgs.
> > > Before treatment and tapering to Colonzapam? I had been > on 6-14mgs of
> > > xanex a day for over 10years > > I am sure this is why bidding get very
> many visions. > > I plan to be off the colonzapam completely in about 3 >
> months and want to > > do another treatment > > Should I get the TA or HCL
> again? > > My boyfriend will probably watch me since my favorite > person
> in the world > > who treated me lives in a different state. > > I heard the
> TA is more for visions,? and HCL is more > for the addiction is > > this
> true? > > Thanks for your continued help. > > Lotsof Love,? Val > > > > >
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> 2013 23:30:26 -0500 > From: Eddie Caceres > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: > [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: <
> 459AC0AD-8376-4C98-BFF1-10FAC9902D46 at aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="us-ascii" > > Hey Serg > Long story I'll try keep it short. Was an
> H addict for > some time used everything under the sun coke, ups, crack, >
> acid, got clean in 1990 ( rehab) after trying countless > detoxes and col
> turkey. Stood clean and sober thru 12 step > programs for 21 yrs. Had an
> injury in my job that required > shoulder surgery. Didn't really abuse the
> meds > vics,Percocet. But the monster was released. And I'm > hooked tried
> the done for a while 2mons 30mgs couldn't > deal with that shit. So I tried
> this wonder drug subutex so > I thought been on it since about 6months
> 2-3mg a day even > though my doctor wanted me on 8-16 a day. Can't tell you
> > the world of depression I'm in. But > I've been researching ibo spoke to
> Buddy, Sister and > the guy that was on the Hbo program for ibo (vice). EKG
> was > good but my liver is > in bad shape (hepc +) can't really afford to
> go to a > clinic but most of all I can't even break the news to my >
> family. I've been hiding my addiction. But we all know > what doesn't >
> come out in the wash comes out i > n the rinse.lol. I truly respect you all
> on this forum and > know what I have to do but drugs and procrastination is
> a > mother -ucker. And no one in a 12 step program would even > understand
> Ibo so I don't mention it to them. I consider > myself a spiritual person
> and been relying on that a lot . > Got a good job good family but
> emotionally I'm falling > apart. Especially after experiencing all those
> years without > using. This disease is brutal to say the least. Hope I >
> answered your question. Feel free to ask away I'm open > to suggestion.
> P.S. I've been working out a bit since my > shoulder is still messed up.
> I've been feeling better,my > appetite is getting better and started
> talking my vitamins > again. I was big on that and had stopped. Or one more
> thing > I'm also a diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and > respect Ed. >
> > Sent from my iPad > > > On Nov 29, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian >
> wrote: > > > > Hi Eddie, > > > > How do you relate to Ibo yourself? > > If
> you don't mind sharing. > > > > Wish you well > > > > Sergey > > > > > >>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi all.
> I'm Eddie been following this list for > a while I just don't comment much.
> But respect you all. > Just wanted to share that on last nights episode of
> Homeland > on Showtime showed one of the main character Hooked on H and >
> going thru bad wds so someone suggested > Ibogaine and they gave it to him.
> At least Hollywood > acknowledges it. Hooray. Peace > >> Sent from my
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> 2013 13:15:42 +0100 > From: Mi Go > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> [Ibogaine] wanna say goodbye, wanna wish you all > nice xmas, > ??? happy
> new year and everything! > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > hey good people from the forum, > > first of all i
> > really appreciate to be member of that forum, first time i > found a
> forum or people with a lot of knowledge about that > plant and > medicine
> where im much interested in, its really hard often > to get any > usefull
> information! > > i wanna say thx for all the replies and infos i got til
> now > and wish you > all a happy xmas etc. etc. i dont know if i have any
> inet > connection there > where i go, i have a doubt on that hehe, anyway i
> will log > in, as often its > possible, > > stand strong and take care
> everybody, have fun and keep up > the good work, > maybe you can sent me
> over some positive vibes every often, > i will do the > same!! >
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> 2013 10:26:43 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Iboga Vissions > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Val, > Leo > > Benzos addiction is by
> far the worst IN TERMS OF PHYSICAL > DEPENDANCY. > I'm not talking
> ADDICTION AS A WHOLE. > >From what I read and researched, Ibo does NOT
> reset > benzo addiction. > And it makes sense, to me at least. > If opioids
> fuck with the endorphine system in our brain, the > benzos fuck > with >
> Our brains much more basic system: homeostasys and GABBA. > Homeostatys is
> basically a state of balance the brain has to > maintain at > any price
> between the "up" and "down" > states. > Between stimulation/action and
> depression/deactivation. > And this is exactly what delirium tremens is: >
> The brain has been long "down" stimulated by > alcohol, which also acts on
> > GABBA receptors. > So when a person abruptly stops drinking, the "up" >
> part of brain is active, > while the "down" waits for alcohol to do its
> job. > The result is a loss of balance in favor of the > "up", and delirium
> tremens > sets in. > Convulsions, hallucinations, and ultimately possible
> coma or > death... > > With heroin/opioids, no matter the severity of WD, >
> there's no danger of > death. > With GABBA agonists, such as benzos and
> alcohol, > there is. > All that to point out that benzo addiction is very
> serious > and in my humble > opinion, should NEVER be interrupted > But
> rather tapered down. > But then again, I'm no expert on benzo addiction, >
> although I've personally > witnessed two persons being brought to the
> hospital > In state of coma due to alcohol WD. > That pretty much shocked
> me so I did some research and NEVER > touch benzos. > > Wish you well > >
> Sergey > > > On Saturday, 30 November 2013, leomroz24 wrote: > > > So it
> did help you with the Benzo dt's? I have > heard from some people that > >
> it does not take away the withdrawals from benzo and > also I have heard
> many > > people getting rid of there addiction since it took > them to the
> root of why > > they had anxiety to begin with. I have been on > benzo's
> for 7 years or so > > and have cut my dose down to about 1mg per day, >
> sometimes less but I just > > cant seem to kick these damn > things. > > >
> > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Valarie 'cvml', '
> val.needis at gmail.com');> > > > wrote: > > > >> As most of you know I did
> not get very many visions > during my ibogaine > >> treatment which was a
> disappointment to me. > >> Since I did Ibogaine I have cut my Colonzapam >
> intake in half from 6mgs to > >> 3 mgs. > >> Before treatment and tapering
> to Colonzapam? I had > been on 6-14mgs of > >> xanex a day for over 10years
> > >> I am sure this is why bidding get very many > visions. > >> I plan to
> be off the colonzapam completely in about > 3 months and want to > >> do
> another treatment > >> > Should I get the TA or HCL again? > >> My
> boyfriend > will probably watch me since my favorite person in the > world
> > >> who treated me lives in a different state. > >> I heard the TA is more
> for visions,? and HCL is > more for the addiction is > >> this true? > >>
> Thanks for your continued help. > >> Lotsof Love,? Val > >> > >> > >>??
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> 2013 07:34:23 -0800 (PST) > From: Chris Jenks > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] IBOGA SEEDS > Message-ID: > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; > Format="flowed" > > > ?? Dear
> Friends, > > ?? I'm in the middle of purchasing iboga seeds from > Emmanuel
> Lih. His price > is typical, and one advantage is that his seeds come from
> > cultivated > plants so their harvest won't interfere with wild iboga >
> propagation. These > were paid for October 22nd but shipping to South
> Africa is > very slow and I > didn't suspect a problem until November 16th,
> when the > package had to be > resent because of a problem at the Cameroon
> post office. > That problem made > us even, since Emmanuel was hassled when
> picking up payment > because > Western Union charged me dollars when I
> clearly specified > euros on the > form. > > ?? From the start I intended
> to write a complete report > of my seed > purchasing experiences once my
> transactions are complete, > but wanted to > post what I have in response
> to this thread. > > ?? I don't recommend having the seeds come in the >
> pods because iboga seems > to stay viable even when dried and the pods are
> likely to > spoil before > arriving from Cameroon, or get unwanted
> attention from > customs. The > viability of fresh but separated seeds from
> > CerberusExtract.com has been > over 50%. > > ?? There is a lot of recent
> information about growing > iboga on facebook if > anyone is planning to
> study this seriously. If you want to > start with the > discussions on my
> page my facebook id is chris.jenks.129 > > ?? Yours, > > ? ?? Chris > > On
> Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Valarie wrote: > > > YES! > > > > On Nov 28, 2013 12:33
> PM, "Sergey Sibirian" > > wrote: > >? ? ?? Emmanuel, > > seeds to plant...
> > > Of course! > > I mean, I would love to,? > > but I don't want to impose
> or intrude? > > I'm kind of new here. > > > > Sergey > > > > > > On Wed,
> Nov 20, 2013 at 10:45 AM, M. Emmanuel Lih > > wrote: > > > >? ? ?? I have
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> 2013 00:47:21 -0500 > From: Sergey Sibirian > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no > subject) > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Jim! > > I just put a bright star next to
> this particular thread. > SO i can easily spot itpo > Honestly though, what
> you did, the research you carried out > is simply > priceless. > Or there
> is a price: HOURS OF MY TIME. > > Plus, to be able to spot the right/mot
> relevant info is > nothing short of > serious skill > > Thanks agsin. > >
> Sergey > > So I'm early grateful. > I'll go through every link > > > On
> Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 > wrote: > > > > > Hi > Serge, > >
> > > Google? ? reverse opiate tolerance? > this is the first page. > > > >
> (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - > Bluelight > > >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > > ? > > > > > > Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > > I often
> hear people say the only thing that can reverse > tolerance to > > opioids
> is time without taking the drug, or that you > can only slow the > >
> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 > posts May 11, 2012 >
> > DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE > READ 25 posts Aug 18,
> 2010 > > NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the ... > 25 posts
> May 5, > > 2010 > > Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts Jul 10, >
> 2007 > > More results from www.bluelight.ru > > > > Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate > analgesics in ... > > >
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > > > > by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related > articles > > Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat > low-back and leg pain > > were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance on > the basis of their > > failure to ... > >
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor > Sensitivity ... > >
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates & > Opioids? > > > > >
> > Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > > Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance:
> Reversing Receptor > Sensitivity ... and > > can prevent or even reverse
> the development of > tolerance to opioid > > ...Tolerance - Does tolerance
> never fully go away? 9 > posts Sep 6, 2012 > > Combinations - Dandelion
> Root for Opiate Tolerance 2 > posts Jan 11, 2011 > > Addiction - Resetting
> a Kratom tolerance 26 posts Apr > 8, 2010 > > Effects - Possible reverse
> tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, > 2010 > > > More results from
> www.drugs-forum.com > > > > Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain - >
> HealingWell.com Forum > > www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases &
> Conditions ? > Chronic Pain? > > > > > > May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4
> authors > > I have been using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and >
> oxycodone) for 6 > > years, ... Though there are drugs to permanently >
> reverse tolerance for ... > > Changing concepts of opioid tolerance > >
> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > > > > > > What these
> classical studies showed is that tolerance > does develop to > > opioid
> ..... are associated with dramatic reduction in > pain and rapid > >
> reversal of tolerance. > > Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance -
> Social > Anxiety Forum > > www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery
> ? > Medication? > > > > > > Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > >
> According to this research > video, they found that THC can synergize with
> > > Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid tolerance. > I got my ...
> > > Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance? [Archive > ... > >
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > > > > > > Feb 8,
> 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > > The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough >
> "doubling" of opiate effects ... > > effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of tolerance > through the use ... > > [PDF] > >
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N ... > - Deep Blue > > >
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? > >
> > > > > by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > > The NMDA antagonists
> were found to inhibit the > development but not the > > expression of
> opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able to > prevent but not > > reverse
> tolerance. > > This can prevent or even reverse opiate tolerance. > It's
> also an > opiate ... > > >
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc...?
> > > > > Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse opiate > tolerance.
> It's also > > an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled substance > in
> the U.S. but its > > no longer ... > > Tryptophan loading may reverse
> tolerance to opiate ... > - ScienceDirect > > >
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > > > > by Y
> Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related > articles > > Mar 27, 2003 -
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> 2013 03:08:52 -0500 > From: Randy Faulconer > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Homeland > Message-ID: > ??? > > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > ? ? ? Hello Eddie, your story sounds a
> lot > like..........................well......................all > of us.
> I went > through interferon for hep C, have had hep B twice, had > major
> colon surgery > for God knows what reason (I once did a gig with a
> colostomy > bag hanging > off of me and took a dump while playing the
> keyboard part to > Material Girl) > and thanx to this list I am still here
> to tell the tale. We > all hang > together and give each other all the love
> we can express > over the internet. > You are most def in the right place.
> Don't give up on > trying to find a way > to better yourself. I have never
> seen anybody with a liver > so bad that they > were refused an Ibogaine
> treatment. Heart problems? Yea that > will scare > providers away. But I
> have > heard of people being yellow from liver problems > and still got >
> healthy enough to do an Ibo treatment. Ask for help, take > milk thistle,
> talk to a liver expert, anything you can do to > get yourself > in a
> position to be able to get the help you need. > > ? ? What do your liver
> panels look like? I'm > not saying that you should > ignore the blood work,
> just make sure that you get more then > one opinion > about whether you can
> handle an Ibogaine treatment. There > are some really > good clinics that
> have docs willing to work with problems > like this.Check > around, you
> might be surprised at just what is available to > you. > > ? ? ? ? I know,
> money is always the > biggest problem, just stick around here > and get to
> know people. Things just might come around for > you. Even if you > have to
> hang around here for ever, it could be worse, we > even make each > other
> laugh from time to time so what do you have to lose? > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> Peace Love > and > The Underground > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? Randy > ? ? ? ?
> ? ? ? ? > ? ? ? ? BiscuitBoy Blues > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 8:32 PM,
> Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > > > Hi Eddie, > > > > I hear you. > > 20 years of
> sobriety is already saying a lot about > you. > > Every life story is
> unique, contrary to an opinion I > saw above, and a > > person's suffering
> cannot be measured in comparison > to anothers. > > That's my opinion. > >
> > > Hep C and Diabetes are a big weight, I can only > imagine. > > So does
> that mean you cannot use Ibo? > > There are compounds being isolated from
> Iboga, which > are BELIEVED to be > > responsible for WD interuption. > >
> MC-18 is one of > those. > > There's some > interesting info about the
> subject on > > Ibogamind.com > > Very resourceful website: stands out from
> the rest FOR > ME. > > > > I wish you well Eddie, we'll talk more. > > > >
> Sergey > > > > On Friday, 29 November 2013, Eddie Caceres wrote: > > > >>
> Hey Serg > >>? Long story I'll try keep it short. Was an > H addict for
> some time used > >> everything under the sun coke, ups, crack, acid, > got
> clean in 1990 ( rehab) > >> after trying countless detoxes and col turkey.
> > Stood clean and sober thru > >> 12 step programs for 21 yrs. Had an
> injury in my > job that required shoulder > >> surgery. Didn't really abuse
> the meds > vics,Percocet. But the monster was > >> released. And I'm hooked
> tried the done for a > while 2mons 30mgs couldn't > >> deal with that shit.
> So I tried this wonder drug > subutex so I thought been > >> on it since
> about 6months 2-3mg a day even > though my doctor wanted me on > >> 8-16 a
> day. Can't tell you the world of > depression I'm in. But I've been > >>
> researching ibo spoke to Buddy, Sister and the guy > that was on the Hbo >
> >> program for ibo (vice). EKG was good but my liver > is in bad shape
> (hepc +) > >> can't really afford to go to a clinic but most > of all I
> can't even break > >> the news to my family. I've been hiding my >
> addiction. But we all know what > >> doesn't come out in the wash comes out
> in the > rinse.lol. I truly respect > >> you all on this forum and know
> what I have to do > but drugs and > >> procrastination is a mother -ucker.
> And no one in a > 12 step program would > >> even understand Ibo so I don't
> mention it to > them. I consider myself a > >> spiritual person and been
> relying on that a lot . > Got a good job good > >> family but emotionally
> I'm falling apart. > Especially after experiencing all > >> > those years
> without using. This disease is brutal to say > the least. Hope I > >>
> answered your question. Feel free to ask away > I'm open to suggestion.
> P.S. > >> I've been working out a bit since my shoulder > is still messed
> up. I've been > >> feeling better,my appetite is getting better and >
> started talking my > >> vitamins again. I was big on that and had stopped.
> > Or one more thing I'm > >> also a diabetic with an insulin pump. Love and
> > respect Ed. > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> On Nov 29, 2013, at
> 10:36 PM, Sergey Sibirian > > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Eddie, > >> > >> How
> do you relate to Ibo yourself? > >> If you don't mind sharing. > >> > >>
> Wish you well > >> > >> > Sergey > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at
> 6:16 AM, Eddie Caceres > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi all. I'm Eddie been
> following this list > for a while I just don't > >>> comment much. But
> respect you all. Just wanted > to share that on last nights > >>> episode
> of Homeland on Showtime showed one of > the main character Hooked on > >>>
> H and going thru bad wds so someone suggested > Ibogaine and they gave it
> to > >>> him. At least Hollywood acknowledges it. > Hooray. Peace > >>>
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> 2013 03:11:12 -0500 > From: Randy Faulconer > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject) > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Jim is the man > > Randy > > > On Sun, Dec
> 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > > > Jim! > > > > I just put
> a bright star next to this particular > thread. > > SO i can easily spot
> itpo > > Honestly though, what you did, the research you carried > out is
> simply > > priceless. > > Or there is a price: HOURS OF MY TIME. > > > >
> Plus, to be able to spot the right/mot relevant info is > nothing short of
> > > serious skill > > > > Thanks agsin. > > > > Sergey > > > > So I'm early
> grateful. > > I'll go through every > link > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013
> at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 > wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi Serge, > >> > >> Google? ?
> reverse opiate tolerance? > this is the first page. > >> > >> > (opioids)
> Is it possible to reverse opioid tolerance? - > Bluelight > >> > >> >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > >> ? > >> > >> > >> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > >> I
> often hear people say the only thing that can > reverse tolerance to > >>
> opioids is time without taking the drug, or that > you can only slow the >
> >> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance 14 > posts May 11, 2012
> > >> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE > READ 25 posts Aug
> 18, 2010 > >> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the > ... 25
> posts May 5, > >> 2010 > >> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25 posts
> Jul > 10, 2007 > >> More results from www.bluelight.ru > >> > >>
> Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to opiate > analgesics in ... > >>
> > www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > >> > >> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related > articles > >> Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat > low-back and leg pain > >> were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance > on the basis of their > >> failure to ... > >>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor > Sensitivity ... > >>
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates > & Opioids? > >> > >>
> > >> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > >> Pharmacology - Opioid
> Tolerance: Reversing Receptor > Sensitivity ... and > >> can prevent or
> even reverse the development of > tolerance to opioid > >> ...Tolerance -
> Does tolerance never fully go away? > 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > >> Combinations
> - Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance > 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > >> Addiction
> - Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts > Apr 8, 2010 > >> > Effects -
> Possible reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, > 2010 > >> More results from
> www.drugs-forum.com > >> > >> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain -
> > HealingWell.com Forum > >> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases & >
> Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > >> > >> > >> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4
> authors > >> I have been using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and >
> oxycodone) for 6 > >> years, ... Though there are drugs to permanently >
> reverse tolerance for ... > >> Changing concepts of opioid tolerance > >>
> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >> > >> > >> What these
> classical studies showed is that > tolerance does develop to > >> opioid
> ..... are associated with dramatic reduction > in pain and rapid > >>
> reversal of tolerance. > >> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance -
> > Social Anxiety Forum > >> > www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ?
> Recovery ? > Medication? > >> > >> > >> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8
> authors > >> According to this research video, they found that > THC can
> synergize with > >> Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid >
> tolerance. I got my ... > >> Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance?
> > [Archive ... > >> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? >
> >> > >> > >> Feb 8, 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > >> The
> drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough > "doubling" of opiate effects ... > >>
> effectiveness AND the prevention/reversal of > tolerance through the use
> ... > >> [PDF] > >> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N >
> ... - Deep Blue > >> >
> deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? >
> >> > >> > >> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > >> The NMDA >
> antagonists were found to inhibit the development but not > the > >>
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able > to prevent but not >
> >> reverse tolerance. > >> This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. > It's also an opiate ... > >> >
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc...?
> > >> > >> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse > opiate
> tolerance. It's > >> also an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled >
> substance in the U.S. > >> but its no longer ... > >> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate > ... - ScienceDirect > >> >
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > >> > >> by
> Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related > articles > >> Mar 27, 2003
> - Five patients on chronic opiate > medication to treat > >> low-back and
> leg pain were determined to have > developed opiate tolerance > on > >> the
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> Re: [Ibogaine] (no subject) > Message-ID: > ??? > > Content-Type:
> text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I saw that film you posted a > link to and
> it was pretty good.? It was not > bad when you take it but when you come
> out of it maybe 20 > hours later you > may feel rough or you may have the
> Ibo glow.? > 24 or so hours after you take > you don't feel that great but
> not that bad considering > you have just been > through a detox.? I put it
> like this you will go from > the worst flu in the > world to a bad cold.?
> When ya got a cold ya just gotta > hack it. > > As far as being scared it
> is not a scared feeling like > spiders and snakes. > I seen something I
> wanted to change and I asked that it be > changed and it > asked what to
> and I said whatever you think I need and the > vision changed. > I am
> surprised the guy had a ECG done also he went from met > to Ibo which > can
> be pretty rough and sometimes dangerous.? I > believed he said something >
> about the QT syndrome can't say for sure. > > Hey Sis? do you have any idea
> if a person has Prolonger > QT Syndrome how > long should you wait before
> taking to the hospital and how > would a person > know - just curious.?
> That was a nice video Serge > posted a link to, short > and pretty >
> informative.? It did seem to imply that after a couple > of days > he was
> alright.? For me the effects lasted a good week > or two.? I am not >
> saying I was buzzing around but knew it would be better to > stay in the >
> house and not drive.? It also affected my eating habits > as cutting down
> 95% > on sugar like ice cream and cola mainly. > > Best, > > ? - JIM > > >
> > On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > > > Jim! > > >
> > I just put a bright star next to this particular > thread. > > SO i can
> easily spot itpo > > Honestly though, what you did, the research you
> carried > out is simply > > priceless. > > Or there is a price: HOURS OF MY
> TIME. > > > > Plus, to be able to spot the right/mot relevant info is >
> nothing short of > > > serious skill > > > > > Thanks agsin. > > > > Sergey
> > > > > So I'm early grateful. > > I'll go through every link > > > > > >
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 > wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi
> Serge, > >> > >> Google? ? reverse opiate tolerance? > this is the first
> page. > >> > >> (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid > tolerance? -
> Bluelight > >> > >> >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > >> ? > >> > >> > >> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > >> I
> often hear people say the only thing that can > reverse tolerance to > >>
> opioids is time without taking the drug, or that > you can only slow the >
> >> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter tolerance > 14 posts May 11, >
> 2012 > >> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, PLEASE > READ 25 posts
> Aug 18, 2010 > >> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection of the > ...
> 25 posts May 5, > >> 2010 > >> Preventing/reducing opiate tolerance 25
> posts Jul > 10, 2007 > >> More results from www.bluelight.ru > >> > >>
> Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to opiate > analgesics in ... > >>
> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > >> > >> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 -
> ?Cited by 55 - ?Related > articles > >> Five patients on chronic opiate
> medication to treat > low-back and leg pain > >> were determined to have
> developed opiate tolerance > on the basis of their > >> failure to ... > >>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing Receptor > Sensitivity ... > >>
> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? Opiates > & Opioids? > >> > >>
> > >> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 > author > >> Pharmacology - Opioid
> Tolerance: Reversing Receptor > Sensitivity ... and > >> can prevent or
> even reverse the development of > tolerance to opioid > >> ...Tolerance -
> Does tolerance never fully go away? > 9 posts Sep 6, 2012 > >> Combinations
> - Dandelion Root for Opiate Tolerance > 2 posts Jan 11, 2011 > >> Addiction
> - Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 posts > Apr 8, 2010 > >> Effects -
> Possible reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan > 28, 2010 > >> More results from
> www.drugs-forum.com > >> > >> Reversing Opioid Tolerance - Chronic Pain -
> > HealingWell.com Forum > >> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases & >
> Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > >> > >> > >> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4
> authors > >> I have been using opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone and >
> oxycodone) for 6 > >> years, ... Though there are drugs to permanently >
> reverse tolerance for ... > >> Changing > concepts of opioid tolerance > >>
> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >> > >> > >> What these
> classical studies showed is that > tolerance does develop to > >> opioid
> ..... are associated with dramatic reduction > in pain and rapid > >>
> reversal of tolerance. > >> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse tolerance -
> > Social Anxiety Forum > >> www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ... ? Recovery
> ? > Medication? > >> > >> > >> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8 authors > >>
> According to this research video, they found that > THC can synergize with
> > >> Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid > tolerance. I got my ...
> > >> Does anything other than TIME lower tolerance? > [Archive ... > >>
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > >> > >> > >> Feb 8,
> 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > >> The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a rough >
> "doubling" of opiate effects ... > >> effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of > tolerance through the use ... > >> [PDF] > >>
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by non-competitive N > ... - Deep Blue > >>
> > deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? >
> >> > >> > >> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > >> The NMDA
> antagonists were found to inhibit the > development but not the > >>
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were able > to prevent but not >
> >> reverse tolerance. > >> This can prevent or even reverse opiate
> tolerance. > It's also an opiate ... > >> >
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc...?
> > >> > >> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse > opiate
> tolerance. It's > >> also an opiate potentiator and is not a controlled >
> substance in the U.S. > >> but its no longer > ... > >> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to opiate > ... - ScienceDirect > >> >
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > >> > >> by
> Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related > articles > >> Mar 27, 2003
> - Five patients on chronic opiate > medication to treat > >> low-back and
> leg pain were determined to have > developed opiate tolerance on > >> the
> basis of ... > >> > >> > >>? -=[) ::::::: MindVox | Ibogaine | List >
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> 2013 01:03:08 -0800 > From: Valarie > To: The Ibogaine List > Subject: Re:
> [Ibogaine] (no > subject) > Message-ID: > ??? > > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8" > > Jim you do your homework! . > Sergie I must have missed
> the video Jim is referring to, can > you repost it > or just email it to
> me?? Thank you. > <3 Val > On Dec 1, 2013 12:39 AM, "Randy Faulconer" >
> wrote: > > > Jim is the man > > > > Randy > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 1, 2013
> at 12:47 AM, Sergey Sibirian >wrote: > > > >> > Jim! > >> > >> I just put a
> bright star next to this particular > thread. > >> SO i can easily > spot
> itpo > >> Honestly though, what you did, the research you > carried out is
> simply > >> priceless. > >> Or there is a price: HOURS OF MY TIME. > >> >
> >> Plus, to be able to spot the right/mot relevant > info is nothing short
> of > >> serious skill > >> > >> Thanks agsin. > >> > >> Sergey > >> > >> So
> I'm early grateful. > >> I'll go through every link > >> > >> > >> On Sat,
> Nov 30, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Jim Hadey3 > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hi Serge, >
> >>> > >>> Google? ? reverse opiate > tolerance? this is the first page. >
> >>> > >>> (opioids) Is it possible to reverse opioid > tolerance? -
> Bluelight > >>> > >>> > >
> www.bluelight.ru/vb/.../637458-Is-it-possible-to-reverse-opioid-toleranc.
> > .. > >>> ? > >>> > >>> > >>> Aug 15, 2012 - 25 posts - ?17 authors > >>>
> I often hear people say the only thing that can > reverse tolerance to >
> >>> opioids is time without taking the drug, or > that you can only slow
> the > >>> ...(opioids) Using naloxone to counter > tolerance 14 posts May
> 11, 2012 > >>> DXM - The Opiate Addicts's Miracle Drug, > PLEASE READ 25
> posts Aug 18, > >>> 2010 > >>> NMDA antagonists for tolerance, a collection
> of > the ... 25 posts May 5, > >>> 2010 > >>> Preventing/reducing opiate
> tolerance 25 posts > Jul 10, 2007 > >>> More results from www.bluelight.ru> >>> > >>> Tryptophan loading may reverse tolerance to > opiate analgesics
> in ... > >>> www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7454382? > >>> > >>> > by Y
> Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - ?Related articles > >>> Five patients on
> chronic opiate medication to > treat low-back and leg > >>> pain were
> determined to have developed opiate > tolerance on the basis of > >>> their
> failure to ... > >>> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing > Receptor
> Sensitivity ... > >>> www.drugs-forum.com ? ... ? DRUG-FORUMS ? > Opiates
> & Opioids? > >>> > >>> > >>> Oct 11, 2008 - 26 posts - ?1 author > >>>
> Pharmacology - Opioid Tolerance: Reversing > Receptor Sensitivity ... and >
> >>> can prevent or even reverse the development of > tolerance to opioid >
> >>> ...Tolerance - Does tolerance never fully go > away? 9 posts Sep 6,
> 2012 > >>> Combinations - Dandelion Root for Opiate > Tolerance 2 posts Jan
> 11, 2011 > >>> Addiction - Resetting a Kratom tolerance 26 > posts Apr 8,
> 2010 > >>> Effects - > Possible reverse tolerance? 10 posts Jan 28, 2010 >
> >>> More results from www.drugs-forum.com > >>> > >>> Reversing Opioid
> Tolerance - Chronic Pain - > HealingWell.com Forum > >>>
> www.healingwell.com ? ... ? Diseases & > Conditions ? Chronic Pain? > >>>
> > >>> > >>> May 23, 2010 - 8 posts - ?4 authors > >>> I have been using
> opioid (tramadol, hydrocodone > and oxycodone) for 6 > >>> years, ...
> Though there are drugs to > permanently reverse tolerance for ... > >>>
> Changing concepts of opioid tolerance > >>> >
> www.painresearch.utah.edu/cancerpain/ch20.html? > >>> > >>> > >>> What
> these classical studies showed is that > tolerance does develop to > >>>
> opioid ..... are associated with dramatic > reduction in pain and rapid >
> >>> reversal of tolerance. > >>> Opioids, Cannabinoids, and reverse >
> tolerance - Social Anxiety Forum > >>> www.socialanxietysupport.com ? ...
> ? Recovery ? > Medication? > >>> > >>> > >>> Nov 11, 2010 - 14 posts - ?8
> authors > >>> According to this research video, they found > that THC can
> synergize with > >>> Opioids and decrease and even reverse opioid >
> tolerance. I got my ... > >>> Does anything other than TIME lower
> tolerance? > [Archive ... > >>> >
> forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-1447.html? > >>> > >>> > >>> Feb
> 8, 2006 - 16 posts - ?11 authors > >>> The drugs-Hydroxyzine(produces a
> rough > "doubling" of opiate effects ... > >>> effectiveness AND the
> prevention/reversal of > tolerance through the use ... > >>> [PDF] > >>>
> Inhibition of opiate tolerance by > non-competitive N ... - Deep Blue > >>>
> > deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/.../0000783.pdf?...1? >
> >>> > >>> > >>> by KA Trujillo - ?1994 - ?Related articles > >>> The NMDA
> antagonists were found to inhibit the > development but not the > >>>
> expression of opiate tolerance; i.e. they were > able to prevent but not >
> >>> reverse tolerance. > >>> This can prevent or even reverse opiate >
> tolerance. It's also an opiate > >>> ... > >>> >
> www.reddit.com/r/.../this_can_prevent_or_even_reverse_opiate_toleranc...
> > >>> ? > >>> > >>> Aug 4, 2009 - This can prevent or even reverse > opiate
> tolerance. It's > >>> also an opiate potentiator and is not a > controlled
> substance in the U.S. > >>> but its no longer ... > >>> Tryptophan loading
> may reverse tolerance to > opiate ... - ScienceDirect > >>> >
> www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304395980900044? > >>> > >>>
> by Y Hosobuchi - ?1980 - ?Cited by 55 - > ?Related articles > >>> Mar 27,
> 2003 - Five patients on chronic opiate > medication to treat > >>> low-back
> and leg pain were determined to have > developed opiate tolerance on > >>>
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> Nov 2013 23:46:50 -0500 > From: Eddie Caceres > To: The Ibogaine List >
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] eddie > Message-ID: <
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> charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks all for the kind words and the warm welcome.
> Yes Star > still on sub about 2-3 mg depends on my day don't want > to go
> above that. I've been since July ( sub). I > haven't considered IBO not
> because of my Hep c but my > finances and situation at home. Won't be easy
> breaking > the news to > family. Love and respect to all > > Sent from my
> iPhone > > > On Nov 30, 2013, at 7:42 PM, star ray > wrote: > > > > Hey
> Eddie, I pretty much have the same story you > do,? did some crazy drugs
> when young, got pregnant and > straight for 25 years.. had three surgeries,
> right knee, > left knee (made it through those with no pain pills and >
> constant pain) Finally the rotator cuff shoulder surgery was > the breaking
> point.? Had to take 1 vicoprophen to go > through rehab, and then started
> taking some daily.? I > never have taken a lot of anything but just enough
> to mess > me up, been battling with that for seven years and i have > hep
> c.......I have done ibogaine a few times and it always > helped and also
> helped my liver and reduced my viral load > and enzymes.? i am currently
> off a low > dose of suboxone (.25 mg)? for about 16 days,? > just plain
> tired....anyway good luck on your journey... are > you still on subutex???
> > >? > > Val and junkboy.... > what nice messages, you are the best > >? >
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> 2013 10:26:11 -0500 > From: Jim Hadey3 > To: > The Ibogaine List > Subject:
> Re: [Ibogaine] eddie > Message-ID: > ??? > Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Eddi, > > I and many other people took Ibo with
> Hep C and are alive to > talk about it. > I know nothing about medicine but
> if your in mediocre > health I think you > will make it.? I did it 4 times
> and ta ta as you know I > am still around. > Of course everyone is
> different, maybe you could find out > how bad you > liver is then make a
> decision. > > Best, > > ? - > JIM > > > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 11:46 PM,
> Eddie Caceres > wrote: > > > Thanks all for the kind words and the warm
> welcome. Yes > Star still on sub > > about 2-3 mg depends on my day don't
> want to go > above that. I've been since > > July ( sub). I haven't
> considered IBO not because > of my Hep c but my > > finances and situation
> at home. Won't be easy > breaking the news to family. > > Love and respect
> to all > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Nov 30, 2013, at 7:42 PM,
> star ray > wrote: > > > > Hey Eddie, I pretty much have the same story you
> > do,? did some crazy drugs > > when young, got pregnant and straight for
> 25 > years.. had three surgeries, > > right knee, left knee (made it
> through those with no > pain pills and > > constant pain) Finally > the
> rotator cuff shoulder surgery was the breaking > > point.? Had to take 1
> vicoprophen to go through > rehab, and then > > started taking some daily.?
> I never have taken a > lot of anything but just > > enough to mess me up,
> been battling with that for seven > years and i have > > hep c.......I have
> done ibogaine a few times and it > always helped and also > > helped my
> liver and reduced my viral load and > enzymes.? i am currently off > > a
> low dose of suboxone (.25 mg)? for about 16 > days,? just plain > >
> tired....anyway good luck on your journey... are you > still on subutex?? >
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