[Ibogaine] how do I get friends validated inside MindVox?

Valarie val.needis at gmail.com
Fri Dec 6 13:27:26 CST 2013


Our Goverment wants all us drug addicts to be on maintenance drugs or just
die.
They want us to be enslaved FOREVER!
<3 Val
On Dec 6, 2013 11:23 AM, "Valarie" <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jim,
> I spoke to Norma about The Dora Weiner Foundation, she explained to me
> that the foundation is not doing well since Howard's death.
> That is why it has not been updated.
> Like I have said in the past I believe ANYONE who is making money off
> Ibogaine as an addiction interrupter should donate to the foundation.
> Let us not forget that Howard was the one who brought it to the masses.
> His entire life after he got clean was dedicated to informing people
> including are fucked up government about the medicinal purposes of
> Ibogaine.
>
> Lotsof Love, Val
> On Dec 6, 2013 11:13 AM, "Jim Hadey3" <jimhadey3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Val,
>>
>> I checked it out a little, it seems that it needs to be updated a little
>> more but I just took a quick look at it.  Ya know Howard did not invent or
>> discover Ibogaine for it was sold in France many years ago.  You got a
>> bottle of Ibogaine pills that were 8 mg each.
>> I would say Howard discovered that it stops w/d and got a patent on it.
>>  Howard tried and tried to make people aware that there may be a way out.
>>  The government did not like Howard, or Beal or a lot of other folks.  I
>> can't understand why it is illegal, couldn't they just ignore it for it is
>> not like crack, heroin or bath salts or crockadil.  I doubt very much if
>> people would take a gram of Ibo and go to a rave or concert.  And if you
>> think about it only addicts will take it so who cares if is harmful of not,
>> know what I mean?  It's just a plant, a herb and there will never be
>> Ibogaine house like crack houses.  IDK, IDK, IDK.
>>
>> Best to all,
>>
>>   - JIM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jim,
>>> Sorry I did not fully answer your question. If you click where it says
>>> links you will see something called the Ibogaine dossier . Here is the link
>>> to that http://www.doraweiner.org/links.html,
>>> Although I would suggest to look at the site entirely.
>>> The more know *** (I can't make a shooting star like on. "The more You
>>> know commercials") lol
>>> Lotsof Love, Val
>>> On Dec 6, 2013 9:42 AM, "Valarie" <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>> The Dora Weiner Foundation is a not for profit corporation that Norma
>>>> and Howard Lotsof founded. It is named after Howard's grandmother.
>>>>
>>>> The Dora Weiner Foundation was established to support education,
>>>> research and patient rights in the areas of chemical dependency.
>>>>
>>>> It is a great site to learn about Ibogaine and drug addiction.
>>>>
>>>> It also has studies that Howard conducted while he was treating drug
>>>> addicts with Ibogaine and much, much more...
>>>> You should check it out http://www.doraweiner.org/
>>>>
>>>> Lotsof Love, Val
>>>> On Dec 6, 2013 8:43 AM, "Jim Hadey3" <jimhadey3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Val,
>>>>>
>>>>> Where on the Dora does it have the dose?
>>>>>
>>>>> Who or what is Dora and what does the foundation do?  I have heard of
>>>>> it but have no idea what they do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bee Coo,
>>>>>
>>>>>   - JIM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Pat, hmmm..... That's weird.
>>>>>> Jim can help you figure it out, he helped me. I know this though my
>>>>>> weight is 150 and we calculated my dose should be 1.2 grams of HCL, and my
>>>>>> provider actually gave me more based on my drug history and the fact that I
>>>>>> was handling the ibogaine really well.
>>>>>>  Hi Jim, thanks for the reply, actually I have tried ibogaine before
>>>>>> twice. But I had the session done at a clinic in cancun. So I'm comfortable
>>>>>> boing it at home now. I only purchased 1 gram of ibogaine hcl. I'm
>>>>>> wondering if that will be enuf.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Jim Hadey3 <jimhadey3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Pat
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In all due respect you should learn more before taking it.  In answer
>>>>>> to your question you compute you dose like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 180  weight
>>>>>> -----                 == 82  (rounded)  KG
>>>>>> 2.2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amount you want to take - you convert
>>>>>> grams to milligrams by multiplying  by
>>>>>> 1000.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Example  1 gram    weighs  1000 mg
>>>>>>               2 grams  weighs   2000 mg
>>>>>>               1.5 grams weight  1500 mg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So take you weight into grams and
>>>>>> divide into the amount of HCL you
>>>>>> think you want to take.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will use 2 grams for an example
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    2000 MG  Which is two grams
>>>>>>    ------
>>>>>>      82          divide by weight in KG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and you get  24.69  mg/kg - way too high
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are looking for an number between
>>>>>> 15 and 20.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now lets use 1.5 gm which is 1500 mg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1500
>>>>>> ------   =  18.29  so round to  18.3 gm
>>>>>>   82
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me 18.3 grams did the trick, done cracked ma head, but everything
>>>>>> is OK now.
>>>>>> I would not want to go any higher it was the perfect dose for me.
>>>>>>  Being an addict we all want more or the highest dose we can get.  It
>>>>>> depends on what your trying to kick, if you trying to kick Sub or Methadone
>>>>>> you will most likely fail, most who have tried that failed.  They tried
>>>>>> hard too but after feeling so weak and bad you just can't take it anymore.
>>>>>>  Also, don't think your now clean and can use now and then for that will
>>>>>> not work, ask anybody.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again you should learn a bit more about the drug for it is not like
>>>>>> any other drug you have ever taken.  This forum is a good place to get
>>>>>> info.  I thinks a few yashoulds may be helpful so ya should have an
>>>>>> experienced sitter, ya should keep the puke bucket with you at all times,
>>>>>> ya should not expect to take it Friday and be at work Monday, ya should not
>>>>>> be taking any SSRIs or NIs and a bunch more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wish you the best of luck and I am sure the others on the forum do
>>>>>> too.  Ask any questions before taking the Exp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   - JIM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Pat Gallina <patgallina at icloud.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi friends, does anyone know what kind of dosage if I take ibogaine
>>>>>>> hydrochloride I don't know the amount of dosage I should take I am make 35
>>>>>>> years old 180 pounds does anybody know what kind of dosage I should take in
>>>>>>> milligrams?? Thanks friends
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:46 PM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff, Don't scare me! Lol.
>>>>>>> I still never found the email. Although I did see it with the link
>>>>>>> Patrick provided, so it must be my email account.
>>>>>>>  On Dec 4, 2013 6:43 PM, "Jeff G" <jeffgallop at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think it's an illuminati conspiracy Val....
>>>>>>>> Watch your back.
>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013 5:58 PM, "Valarie" <val.needis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Patrick, That must be what it is, because I still don't see
>>>>>>>>> it on my end.
>>>>>>>>> How embarrassing I'm glad I didn't keep posting until I saw it.
>>>>>>>>> <3 Val
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013 9:28 AM, "Patrick K. Kroupa" <digital at phantom.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You've actually posted it twice now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To see what everybody else sees, look at the archives, which are:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For December, it'd be:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mindvox.com/pipermail/ibogaine/2013-December/date.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You've sent 2 messages called "Silver" at this point.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is occasional lag because the list is very large, new
>>>>>>>>>> accounts are added, old ones that unsubscribe or start bouncing are
>>>>>>>>>> automagically removed, but the membership has hovered at about 10,000
>>>>>>>>>> subscribers for half a decade or so.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lag means: it may take 3 minutes from the time you hit send,
>>>>>>>>>> until the time everybody receives your message, but there is never a time
>>>>>>>>>> where it'll take hours or days, unless there are technical problems, which
>>>>>>>>>> can happen, but it tends to happen for everybody, not just one person, and
>>>>>>>>>> is at our end.  There haven't been any issues for a few months since we
>>>>>>>>>> finished transitioning the list to new servers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not seeing your own posts can relate to either your own list
>>>>>>>>>> settings -- you've told the mailing list not to send duplicate copies, and
>>>>>>>>>> mail you back your own posts which are already sitting in your Sent mail
>>>>>>>>>> box -- or how you've configured your email client (look in your spam
>>>>>>>>>> folder, if they're in there, check them and mark them as Not Spam).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> > A new thread from me?
>>>>>>>>>> > Weird, I don't see it anywhere, I see Silver's post asking
>>>>>>>>>> Patrick how to post that's it.
>>>>>>>>>> > Thank you for letting me know.
>>>>>>>>>> > <3 Val
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 4, 2013 8:13 AM, "junkboy64" <junkboy64 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > It posted. I saw it
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G
>>>>>>>>>> network.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > -------- Original message --------
>>>>>>>>>> > From: Valarie <val.needis at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> > Date: 12/04/2013 8:11 AM (GMT-07:00)
>>>>>>>>>> > To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] how do I get friends validated inside
>>>>>>>>>> MindVox?
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > I created a new post on Monday night and it still hasn't posted.
>>>>>>>>>> > So I re-sent it last night and it still has not posted.
>>>>>>>>>> > I double checked my email, it shows I sent it right.
>>>>>>>>>> > Is this happening to anyone else?
>>>>>>>>>> > <3 Val
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 3, 2013 3:22 PM, "Vector Vector" <
>>>>>>>>>> vector620022002 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > Ok duh I missed invite friends the first 15 times it got
>>>>>>>>>> mentioned ;-) Thanks, that clarified a lot.
>>>>>>>>>>
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