[Ibogaine] Ibogaine affordably?
val.needis at gmail.com
Tue Dec 3 20:44:49 CST 2013
Hi Valerie B.
I completely agree with Jim, do your research. Verify what you are told.
I know of one girl on this list who was told she can go straight from
Methadone to Ibogaine, which is possible but it's very hard and she should
have been monitored.
It is suggested that your off Sub for 3 months before Ibogaine.
I have not been on the list that much since I started going to my
outpatient, so I missed your introduction.
Welcome, you are in the right place :)
Lotsof Love, Val
On Dec 1, 2013 6:59 PM, "Jim Hadey3" <jimhadey3 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Val B,
> So your off the sub and clean now, right? I must tell you that Ibo is not
> like any other kind of drug and can be dangerous. Learn all you can on
> this forum and others like eboka.info and maybe check out erowid.org. It
> is not like acid or any other drug and there is a lot to know beforehand.
> For example you can not be taking SSRIs, SSNIs or many other drugs. It
> also helps to have some kind of after plan like CBT, NA or whatever for it
> is hard to do it all by yourself. You must have a good sitter for DIY does
> not mean all by yourself. Stick around this forum for there is a lot of
> experience here.
> Fell to ask questions all you want,
> - JIM
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Valerie Bird <valbird at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm new here. This is my first posting. Hope I'm doing it right. I spent
>> 14 years on opiates. 14 years of increasing hell. I've been off the hard
>> core opiates and in a 12 step program for 3.5 years now. I spent 2.5 years
>> on suboxone and I thought I'd never get off it...it sucked because I
>> couldn't wrap my head around the withdrawals. They came in later and were
>> even worse than the opiate withdrawal. I finally got off it using
>> tramadol. Unfortunately it took a lot of tramadol! I am finally off that
>> too! I saw an episode of Law and Order SVU where a heroin addict was
>> treated with ibogaine. .that started my research. I'm disgusted with the
>> elite capitalist bullshit reasons that ibogaine is not legal in the US. The
>> pharmaceutical manufacturers had all my money on opiates then on suboxone,
>> then tramadol..and now I sit 3.5 years later and I still have the damn hole
>> inside me that I started with and I'm broke!. I did the 12 steps, have a
>> sponsor, and got real involved in the recovery movement. I'm sick that
>> now that the "medical" treatment is over I still crave filling the void! I
>> am in Florida and I want ibogaine but I can't afford to turn this into a
>> luxury vacation for God's sake! I need the deep cleansing and the
>> emotional, spiritual, and intellectual insights that ibogaine can give.
>> Meditation and prayer still have not been enough. Any advise on where to
>> go safely and affordably?
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