[Ibogaine] Advice Needed for Tapering if Pregnant

James Forristal psychonaut101 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 8 14:28:17 EST 2012


Ive always heard detox while pregnant is not an option.  Ive heard good
results with people on sub staying at or under 4mg a day not passing a
painful detox onto the baby.  Maybe even a 21 day taper detox with sub is
ideal but thats for her ob gyn to decide of course.
On Nov 8, 2012 1:16 PM, "Chris Jenks" <chris at jenks.us> wrote:

>
>   Dear Sister,
>
>   Thanks again for the encouragement, Sister. I feel somewhat helpless
> myself, since most of what I've learned about addiciton treatment doesn't
> apply for her situation, and the most I've been able to do is to encourage
> her and try to get her connected to people who should be able to help. I'll
> be sure to post an update on any progress, which seems at this point to
> depend on her willingness to keep trusting.
>
>   I just want to say, I'm sure you have a great deal to offer a child now.
> It takes a village to raise a child, as they say, so we all have a chance
> to pass on the love and wisdom (as you just did, actually). The biological
> reproduction part seems comparatively empty in itself. Incidentally, I have
> no biological children either, but I'm a very proud father.
>
>   Yours,
>
>     Chris
>
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, Sister wrote:
>
>  I am so sorry I don't know more or have any suggestions to help her.  I
>> just knew as an addict myself, raised by addicts I couldn't raise a child
>> myself and keep the chain going.  Also never had desire helped, no ticking
>> clock in my body.  I will keep her/child in my prayers.  I feel for her,
>> the fear, the dilemma she is facing.  I see no other way but medical
>> attention for her, her baby and her future.  I hope all turns out well and
>> a smooth journey for all involved.  Have to give this women cudo's for
>> caring at all to do the best thing for her and child.  Just not sure now is
>> the time for ct detox, maybe wean but again I am not in the know with these
>> types of situation.
>> Love to her, respect also for her reaching out for help.  Glad your at
>> her side to help.  That's paying it forward for sure.
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Chris Jenks <chris at jenks.us> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>  Dear Sister and Jennifer,
>>>
>>>  Thanks for your advice. I'll pass it on.
>>>
>>>  Yours,
>>>
>>>    Chris
>>>
>>> On Wed, 7 Nov 2012, sister wrote:
>>>
>>>  But more stable for the baby.  But your saying out of dope now? Diludid
>>>> very short acting.  So she needs to decide soon.  Being pregnant she would
>>>> probably be fast tracked and could get a bed in rehab pretty fast.  If it
>>>> were me and planning on keeping baby I think I would go to ER and tell them
>>>> up front the situation.  They can dose her with meth, stabilize her till
>>>> things are worked out.
>>>>
>>>> Sister
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 11:12 PM, Chris Jenks <chris at jenks.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> That sounds worse than staying on hydromorphone for the baby (longer
>>>>> withdrawal).
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 7 Nov 2012, Jennifer Santos, RN, BSN wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  They will put her on methadone. Baby will have to detox.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 10:16 PM, sister <sistereboga at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  She needs to see ob.  It can be very dangerous for baby to detox now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sister
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:46 PM, Chris Jenks <chris at jenks.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Friends,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A young friend asked my advice for quitting an 18 month habit of
>>>>>>>> taking hydromorphone, presently at 4 mg five times a day, which she seems
>>>>>>>> determined to leave behind. The major complication is that she is three
>>>>>>>> months pregnant. I still plan to ask around the medical professionals in
>>>>>>>> our area and hopefully connect her with one with both the ability and
>>>>>>>> willingness to help, but since I greatly respect the experiencve of this
>>>>>>>> group I hoped for suggestions of options to consider and of ones to avoid
>>>>>>>> meanwhile.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>
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