[Ibogaine] Ibogaine Digest, Vol 49, Issue 5

Sara Glatt sara119 at xs4all.nl
Fri Jan 27 10:42:04 EST 2012


you can defend Marc as much as you like, It will not make him a better person.





 When it comes to sexuality, it can be a tough one to deal with for
> some.  I'd say a balanced perspective, is probablly best.  Extreme views
> on either side don't help much.  I'm sure with some substances it brings
> out some possibly risky sexual behaviors.....and if one is dealing with
> addictive behaviors, understanding why one is using certain substances,
> to escape from oneself or to progress in some manner, maybe intention
> does matter.   With today's overly sexualized society, i'm not sure if
> the effects are all positive, balance is always good.
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> ___________________
> Edward
> edwardw at mtciep.com
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> On 1/27/2012 2:22 AM, David Pesce wrote:
>> I stopped posting to this thread because the OP who defended Marc in
>> the first place who was Vector dropped it. All you are doing Sara is
>> shoveling a bunch of hearsay about Marc all over the net. You've got
>> some disgruntled former business partner of his saying crap about him
>> and then your evidence is that Marc likes sex and drugs. Oh no! That
>> would suck if he was Newt Gingrich but it is about exactly the same
>> thing he has to say to anybody in person. I'm Marc Emery I like sex
>> and drugs. So what again? I don't see him advocating rape anyplace.
>> You are sharing your personal prefs on sex and being a prude about
>> anal then giving a moral judgement on Marc's sex life. So far as I
>> know his current marriage is open and him and Jody do whatever they
>> want. Even if it wasn't I still don't see why you or anybody else
>> cares who he has sex with.
>> I know you hate him, you argue on this list with him like 1000 times
>> over the years, I don't know what ya all's problem is and I don't care
>> so much but you're not posting some awful evidence why Marc is a monster.
>> Now you'll post some rant how Marc is my hero and I'm blind. Marc
>> isn't my hero, I do respect him and his life's work, not snitching out
>> and throwing others to the dogs, he made a deal where everybody except
>> for him walked away from it and he went to sit in prison. He's not a
>> full of shit hypocrite. He likes sex and drugs, duh, he's mentioned
>> that abt 9 million times himself. I don't see some long line of women
>> after him with rape charges. In the 21st century I think that some
>> women also like sex and drugs, it might even be consensual, we're not
>> in the 1800's anymore. Check your chronograph it's stuck in the wrong
>> century. About the only thing you can say about his posts are that
>> he's not the most sensitive guy in the world maybe.
>>
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>> *From:* Sara Glatt <sara119 at xs4all.nl>
>> *To:* The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2012 7:49 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ibogaine] Ibogaine Digest, Vol 49, Issue 5
>>
>> sorry, it was 2cb what he advocates. "#1 2C-B. This will,make her an
>> incredible sucking, vibrating, bouncing, pleasure
>> seeking fiend for 4 - 5 hours straight. Absolutely 100% goddamn right
>> ... We should put it in their food. Daily. Its
>> unfortunately, incredibly difficult to obtain, but I don't know why?
>> ...Then its agreed, for the sake of us all, let's
>> put it in chocolate so they just absorb small quantities on a regulat
>> basis. "
>>
>> "#4 Cocaine. If you want to fuck her ass, this is deriguer. "
>>
>> http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/s ... Post215774
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>>
>> > Does he actually advocate, or mentioned this, Sara?
>> >
>> > ___________________
>> > Edward
>> > edwardw at mtciep.com <mailto:edwardw at mtciep.com>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 1/26/2012 3:23 PM, Sara Glatt wrote:
>> >>> yes, positive and negative I agree.  promoting GHB in women drinks
>> and cocaine
>> >> for someone who gives Ibogaine treatments is weird, where I come from.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  He does seem like an interesting person.  Like with most substances,
>> >>> there are negative and positive.  Right now I'm deaing with a
>> nephew who
>> >>> we're trying to keep away from smoking Cannabis.  The only thing it's
>> >>> done for him, is an increase in skipping high school and reducing
>> >>> motiviation, unfortunally.  On the other side, I've seen some use
>> >>> Cannabis for Tourette's Syndrome based tics.
>> >>>
>> >>> ___________________
>> >>> Edward
>> >>> edwardw at mtciep.com <mailto:edwardw at mtciep.com>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 1/25/2012 3:21 PM, SV wrote:
>> >>>> I have written to Marc Emery in prison. He very kindly wrote me
>> back a
>> >>>> long letter. Im sure he isnt perfect, who is but i also do not
>> believe
>> >>>> he ever gave anyone drugs without their knowledge. As well, fucking
>> >>>> someone anally does not make you a pervert. So what if he wants to
>> >>>> tell what drugs he did with who and how that affected sexual
>> >>>> performance? Im sure we've all noticed a difference in sex with
>> >>>> certain drugs. Jesus, even Sasha and Ann Shulgin speak openly about
>> >>>> the subject. Also who cares if he cheated on his wife or girlfriend?
>> >>>> that doesnt make him a monster either. Ive cheated on my previous
>> >>>> spouse too. Why is it that its seen as more of a crime for a man
>> to do
>> >>>> it than a woman?  One thing Ill say about Marc is that he has
>> courage.
>> >>>> And I respect that. I respect all he has done to further the case of
>> >>>> marijuana legalization. And I respect that he took a deal which
>> >>>> allowed Michelle and Greg to walk free. And I respect that he's doing
>> >>>> his time in a manner anyone could be proud of.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Peace
>> >>>> Shiloh
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> beside,Marc is a pervert who would drug women to fuck them up their
>> >>>>> ass and spread his sexual preference openly
>> >>>> online, which drug can help which sexual act? who admitted to be
>> >>>> cheating on his wives and girlfriends. when money is
>> >>>> the most important religion these days, people look up to him no
>> >>>> matter what.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> well,I do not expect an apology, not from a "prince". but for sure
>> >>>> all those who wrote support letters to Marc have
>> >>>> no idea who he really is.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> %2
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