[Ibogaine] Subutex & Iboga/Ibogaine

Donny Drake donnydrake18 at yahoo.co.uk
Wed Jan 4 22:28:21 EST 2012


You mean you took a Booster once at the 3rd month or you took boosters for 3 months?

I assume you used HCL or TA? or root bark as a flood dose?


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 From: junkboy <junkboy64 at gmail.com>
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i got down to 2mg a day of sub and one flood with a booster at 3 months did it for me.


On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:56 PM, star ray <earthshealing at hotmail.com> wrote:

well, he was on 8 mg for two years, then he got off two weeks and did ibogaine hcl flood... he was good for 5 months but relapsed when his older left his sub out when he was living here, After he relapsed he was taking about 4 mg a day for a couple months, maybe 3 and did another flood, he has been clean for about 6 months.  He works out a lot and completely changed his diet. His older brother who is still on sub like you has been taking it  about 6 years of 6-8 mg daily, YUK, he wants to get off but he is working full-time and has big payments.  HONESTLY,  i think someone else can probably answer this question better.  I am thinking he is going to have to go to short acting opiate for aT LEAST ONE MONTH.  I am not familiar with zamorph, or gapacetine.  So you are on 1 mg of sub??  is that right, how long??  Did you have trouble cutting down,  my son's both tried cutting down and just could not do it??  Anyway someone else may have more
 information for you!!  Good Luck!!
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>From: donnydrake18 at yahoo.co.uk
>To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
>Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Subutex & Iboga/Ibogaine
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>Hi Star, I've been on sub for 6 years and counting, would that make a difference? I think it will but would 2 weeks being off sub prior to Ibogaine make any major difference?  I have valium and zamorph, also codeine too. I also have Gapacentine dont know if that works similar to Lyrica.. Am already on 0.5/1mg of sub..
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>try to get down to 2 to 3 mg sub daily....for at least a month before you go on short acting opiates like vicoprophen and valium helps loads not a lot of valium though maybe 10 mg when in worst withdrawal from sub  which would maybe be on day 3 to 6.  Get off the valium at least 3 days before treatment.  Also Lyrica helps with nerve pain  for a day or two only during worse withdrawals from sub.  My understanding is that you should be off sub for AT LEAST two weeks before doing the flood but of course more time would be better.... this worked for my son. ALSO Benadryl blocks all nausea, it is amazing as I did a couple floods to reduce hcv viral load and nothing worked for nausea but BENADRYL, I could not believe it, it was a miracle, only 25 mg for 125 lbs, so may need two if heavier... it blocks some receptors in stomach that prevents nausea..... anyway, you gotta be off the sub at a minimum of two weeks but how long have you been on sub????
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>Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:58:22 -0700
>From: junkboy64 at gmail.com
>To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
>Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Subutex & Iboga/Ibogaine
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>sub is nasty... id switch to something, anything else, for as long as possible. a month plus!!!
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>On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Donny Drake <donnydrake18 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>Hello!
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>>I wish to ask couple of questios on Mindvox regarding Ibogaine and Subutex/Suboxone/Buprenorphine. Am pretty new to the Ibogaine/Ibogs scene and do not know how to go about posting on Mindvox..
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>>I wish to ask all memebers what is the standard protocol of Iboga/Ibogaine in order to detox from Subutex.
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>>I have been taking Subutex for 6 years and am on 0.5 currently. I wish to use Ibogaine but do not know how to go about it. I have morphine time release (Zomorph or MScontin) and was wondering if I can use that to step off from Subutex prior to Ibogaine/Iboga.
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>>Are there any people here who have detoxed from sub using Ibogaine? if so how did it go for you..Did you still get withdrawals or these PAWS afterwards? what is the best way on going about detoxing from sub using Iboga..I've been told it's difficult with even with Ibogaine so I iwish to read peoples experiences and opinions about this.
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>>Thank you.
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