[Ibogaine] Please help

Sid sidskidpiercing at gmail.com
Mon Apr 30 14:54:44 EDT 2012


The TOR wiki 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)

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On 30 Apr 2012, at 19:23, "Matt S." <ibogamail at gmail.com> wrote:

> "- TOR browser is pretty much impossible to hack. Your IP is hidden"
> 
> Maybe. Maybe not.
> 
> see this: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10799520
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> I'm not sure what the details are about how these guys operated or how they got popped but it should give one pause before participating in these kinds of things.
> 
> Matt
> 
> On 4/30/2012 6:36 AM, Sid wrote:
>> Yeah it's easy enough I guess. You have to download some software. Register. Then buy bitcoins.
>> 
>> Then get charged at least 25% more for stuff than you would normally.
>> 
>> Pros:
>> - Being able to anonymously buy anything from china white heroin to weed.
>> - TOR browser is pretty much impossible to hack. Your IP is hidden
>> 
>> 
>> Cons:
>> -no dispute system for payment.
>> -Having to give your address for the parcel
>> -No way of knowing how long silk road will stay online
>> -Massive variation in value of 'bitcoins'.. One may be worth $1 one day then $0.50 by the time you've payed.
>> - Software used is not really for a noob.
>> (Transactions involve PKE, so a knowledge of how to use public and personal key encryption is essential.)
>> - Paying way more for things than you would on the street
>> 
>> Think that covers it :/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 30 Apr 2012, at 13:08, Vector Vector <vector620022002 at yahoo.com <mailto:vector620022002 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> http://gawker.com/5805928/the-underground-website-where-you-can-buy-any-drug-imaginable
>>> 
>>> "Making small talk with your pot dealer sucks. Buying cocaine can get you shot. What if you could buy and sell drugs online like books or light bulbs? Now you can: Welcome to Silk Road.
>>> 
>>> About three weeks ago, the U.S. Postal Service delivered an ordinary envelope to Mark's door. Inside was a tiny plastic bag containing 10 tabs of LSD. "If you had opened it, unless you were looking for it, you wouldn't have even noticed," Mark told us in a phone interview.
>>> 
>>> Mark, a software developer, had ordered the 100 micrograms of acid through a listing on the online marketplace Silk Road. He found a seller with lots of good feedback who seemed to know what they were talking about, added the acid to his digital shopping cart and hit "check out." He entered his address and paid the seller 50 Bitcoins―untraceable digital currency―worth around $150. Four days later the drugs, sent from Canada, arrived at his house.
>>> 
>>> "It kind of felt like I was in the future," Mark said.
>>> 
>>> Getting to Silk Road is tricky. The URL seems made to be forgotten. But don't point your browser there yet. It's only accessible through the anonymizing network TOR, which requires a bit of technical skill to configure.
>>> 
>>> Once you're there, it's hard to believe that Silk Road isn't simply a scam. Such brazenness is usually displayed only by those fake "online pharmacies" that dupe the dumb and flaccid. There's no sly, Craigslist-style code names here. But while scammers do use the site, most of the listings are legit. Mark's acid worked as advertised. "It was quite enjoyable, to be honest," he said. We spoke to one Connecticut engineer who enjoyed sampling some "silver haze" pot purchased off Silk Road. "It was legit," he said. "It was better than anything I've seen."
>>> 
>>> Silk Road cuts down on scams with a reputation-based trading system familiar to anyone who's used Amazon or eBay. The user Bloomingcolor appears to be an especially trusted vendor, specializing in psychedelics. One happy customer wrote on his profile: "Excellent quality. Packing, and communication. Arrived exactly as described." They gave the transaction five points out of five.
>>> 
>>> "Our community is amazing," Silk Road's anonymous administrator, known on forums as "Silk Road," told us in an email. "They are generally bright, honest and fair people, very understanding, and willing to cooperate with each other."
>>> 
>>> Sellers feel comfortable openly trading hardcore drugs because the real identities of those involved in Silk Road transactions are utterly obscured. If the authorities wanted to ID Silk Road's users with computer forensics, they'd have nowhere to look. TOR masks a user's tracks on the site. The site urges sellers to "creatively disguise" their shipments and vacuum seal any drugs that could be detected through smell. As for transactions, Silk Road doesn't accept credit cards, PayPal , or any other form of payment that can be traced or blocked. The only money good here is Bitcoins.
>>> 
>>> Bitcoins have been called a "crypto-currency," the online equivalent of a brown paper bag of cash. Bitcoins are a peer-to-peer currency, not issued by banks or governments, but created and regulated by a network of other bitcoin holders' computers. (The name "Bitcoin" is derived from the pioneering file-sharing technology Bittorrent.) They are purportedly untraceable and have been championed by cyberpunks, libertarians and anarchists who dream of a distributed digital economy outside the law, one where money flows across borders as free as bits.
>>> 
>>> To purchase something on Silk Road, you need first to buy some Bitcoins using a service like Mt. Gox Bitcoin Exchange. Then, create an account on Silk Road, deposit some bitcoins, and start buying drugs. One bitcoin is worth about $8.67, though the exchange rate fluctuates wildly every day. Right now you can buy an 1/8th of pot on Silk Road for 7.63 Bitcoins. That's probably more than you would pay on the street, but most Silk Road users seem happy to pay a premium for convenience.
>>> 
>>> Since it launched this February, Silk Road has represented the most complete implementation of the Bitcoin vision. Many of its users come from Bitcoin's utopian geek community and see Silk Road as more than just a place to buy drugs. Silk Road's administrator cites the anarcho-libertarian philosophy of Agorism. "The state is the primary source of violence, oppression, theft and all forms of coercion," Silk Road wrote to us. "Stop funding the state with your tax dollars and direct your productive energies into the black market."
>>> 
>>> Mark, the LSD buyer, had similar views. "I'm a libertarian anarchist and I believe that anything that's not violent should not be criminalized," he said.
>>> 
>>> But not all Bitcoin enthusiasts embrace Silk Road. Some think the association with drugs will tarnish the young technology, or might draw the attention of federal authorities.
>>> 
>>> "The real story with Silk Road is the quantity of people anxious to escape a centralized currency and trade," a longtime bitcoin user named Maiya told us in a chat. "Some of us view Bitcoin as a real currency, not drug barter tokens."
>>> 
>>> Silk Road and Bitcoins could herald a black market eCommerce revolution. But anonymity cuts both ways. How long until a DEA agent sets up a fake Silk Road account and starts sending SWAT teams instead of LSD to the addresses she gets? As Silk Road inevitably spills out of the bitcoin bubble, its drug-swapping utopians will meet a harsh reality no anonymizing network can blur.
>>> 
>>> Update: Jeff Garzik, a member of the Bitcoin core development team, says in an email that bitcoin is not as anonymous as the denizens of Silk Road would like to believe. He explains that because all Bitcoin transactions are recorded in a public log, though the identities of all the parties are anonymous, law enforcement could use sophisticated network analysis techniques to parse the transaction flow and track down individual Bitcoin users.
>>> 
>>> "Attempting major illicit transactions with bitcoin, given existing statistical analysis techniques deployed in the field by law enforcement, is pretty damned dumb," he says."
>>> 
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>>> *From:* Sid <sidskidpiercing at gmail.com <mailto:sidskidpiercing at gmail.com>>
>>> *To:* The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com <mailto:ibogaine at mindvox.com>>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 30, 2012 11:25 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ibogaine] Please help
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>>> Why would you buy it from silkroad when you can buy online anyway from proper sources?
>>> 
>>> Silkroad is expensive, dodgy and difficult to find/join in the first place.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> On 29 Apr 2012, at 20:23, david lishner <spiritvine at gmail.com <mailto:spiritvine at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> really?
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Ian Howard <ianroots28 at gmail.com <mailto:ianroots28 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>    http://www.ibogaworld.com/
>>>> 
>>>>    Be careful. This stuff is no joke and unlike anything you've
>>>>    probably ever done. It's not really advisable to do this
>>>>    yourself, but if no other options are available, you do what you
>>>>    have to do. If you're DEA, I'm sorry.
>>>> 
>>>>    On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:36 AM, brad houston
>>>>    <gt4all at hotmail.com <mailto:gt4all at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>        I am in desperate need of a referral for a reliable source
>>>>        for ibogaine hcl that will ship to the USA.
>>>> 
>>>>        Please let me know.
>>>> 
>>>>        Thank you,
>>>> 
>>>>        Brad
>>>> 
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