[Ibogaine] Ibogaine and My Year of Interferon

Matt S ibogamail at gmail.com
Wed May 25 18:09:56 EDT 2011


Hi Emanoil

Well at a minimum your doctor is ignorant because it does work.But since 
you say he is familiar with the bark that might mean he’s not just 
ignorant but actually willfully ignorant or possibly even malicious.Most 
likely though he’s hopped up on the letters P-H-D that some fancy 
schoolin’ place said he earned, so now he just thinks that he knows 
everything.Your experience with Hep C should be evidence enough that his 
“educated opinion” may not be worth a whole lot.

If you’ve been reading here for a while than you know that withdrawal 
attenuation is guaranteed (at least to some extent) with sufficient 
dose.How much attenuation you get varies, but I have never heard someone 
who received a sizable dose complain that dope sickness was their 
primary concern at the time.How long that attenuation lasts seems to 
vary somewhat too but in my experience, and I think just about everyone 
who has had an ibogaine treatment for opiates would back me on this, 
it’s by far the easiest way to get off opiates in terms of what you will 
have to suffer in withdrawals.But what you have to endure in terms of 
the rest of the experience as you know is another matter.

Again, if you have been reading here awhile than I probably have nothing 
new to tell you about if it works or how it works.It can be a 
transcendent experience, it can free you from addiction, or it might 
not.It can be pleasant, even sublime, and it can be horrible, and if you 
are like me, it can be one for a while and then be the other for a while 
and then go back again.It’s unpredictable, but as has been posted here 
before, there are ways to improve your odds of staying off dope.If you 
want to take a drug that will allow you to go from opiate dependent to 
non-opiate dependent without having to puke and shit yourself for days 
or weeks (depending on the opiate) followed by months of insomnia and 
depression, well ibogaine can do that.I know of nothing else in the 
world that can.But what happens after that is up to you.

As for your observation that you get no enjoyment from exercise, is this 
an observation that you have made while strung out?Because if so that 
makes perfect sense to me.Your receptors are used to being awash in 
endorphin-like chemicals so when you exercise whatever actual endorphin 
release you get is libel to be lost in the relative insensitivity of 
your receptors.Get off opiates, then exercise and see what happens.If 
you get off opiates without ibogaine though, it will probably still take 
a very long time for the sensitivity to return to those receptors.If you 
get off using ibogaine then you could probably notice it pretty much 
right away.

But having said all of that, I too have wondered about a deficiency in 
my neurochemistry that keeps me from enjoying the things others enjoy, 
at least to the extent that they seem to enjoy it.And I think it’s true 
to some extent.For example, some people get lots of enjoyment and energy 
from being social, that ain’t me.When I first got clean I sort of felt a 
little resentful that I had to do so much stuff, make so much effort, to 
be relatively happy, while other people seemed to be able to just breeze 
through.I still find that I have to do a lot of stuff but I have a much 
better idea now of what works for me and I can make better use of my 
time.Exercise with a small amount of iboga on board is good for 
potentiating the feel good effect of the endorphins for example.But I 
have actually gotten away from the small iboga doses and just a vigorous 
workout by itself, or even better a vigorous workout with a small amount 
of cactus extract on board is very rejuvenating for me.I also like to 
stay up late one night every few weeks watching movies by myself.Other 
than those nights I make a pretty good effort to make sure I get enough 
sleep.I pay A LOT of attention to what I eat and I have been working 
with a dietician friend of mine for like a year fine tuning that.I make 
sure and do things that I find rewarding (like furthering my 
professional skills, and gardening) and also things that I find 
meaningful (like praying, and spending time with my daughter, and 
reading spiritual oriented books and magazines).So what I am saying is 
there are things you can do, it takes some effort but the more time you 
spend trying to find what works for you, the more you will get good at 
it.I still have some dark periods but it always eventually gets better 
so I just stick with it.Keep looking for what works, keep fine tuning, 
and over time progress becomes visible.

I don’t know if ibogaine is right for you, especially based on what you 
said about your liver.But it’s worth finding out.You have nothing to 
lose by seeking information

Matt



On 5/24/2011 11:40 PM, Manole & Mary Tiulescu wrote:
> RE: Ibogaine and My Year of Interferon
>
> In this forum I've been reading peoples' reports about ibogaine for a 
> long time now, yet still I'm confused. Drugs that cause hallucinations 
> are worrisome because the few times in my teens when I took acid it 
> was like putting my head into a meat grinder. What people write here 
> about ibogaine runs the spectrum from nightmarish to liberating. Why 
> is there such variability? I've studied what people portray in the 
> hopes of finding consistent principles and explanations that might 
> make sense for the diverse descriptions. I've even asked my doctor who 
> is familiar with the bark. He dismisses it by saying if it actually 
> worked everyone would be doing it.
>
> Like everyone I wish something on this planet might either release me 
> from caring about the stigma and difficulties of opiates or help me 
> physically and emotionally become free of them. As with all reports of 
> transcendent experiences I remain skeptical, but also can't help 
> hoping ibogaine or some other pill, tree root, or leaf will someday 
> offer help. In the meantime I read this forum in the hopes of finding 
> hope. Perhaps I was born with a deficiency of feel good hormones 
> including optimism because 99% of any exercise I try I find tedious. 
> No matter how many times I do it, all I can think about is when it 
> will be over. I decidedly do not get that rush of happiness most 
> others say they get after jogging or spinning, especially afterwards. 
> Is this the proof of insufficient feel good hormones? The only 
> physical exertions I enjoy once I force myself out to do them are 
> walking, volleyball, and sometimes dancing. Does anyone out there have 
> any wisdom or insight into this topic?
>
> In any case, today I read someone's letter about worries concerning 
> interferon. For what it's worth, before taking it myself I heard 
> numerous horror stories about people who couldn't withstand it, who 
> lost their minds and who became violent and psychotic. Before taking 
> it I was told by a few doctors that my history of depression and other 
> factors counted against me and that the odds were only 20% to 30% in 
> my favor. Even though I was afraid and generally consider myself to be 
> a person adverse to pain, I was told I already had advanced cirrhosis, 
> had to begin the treatment immediately, and go on disability. One well 
> known liver specialist at Yale said my case was hopeless and there was 
> no point in attempting the interferon. Everywhere I turned people 
> advised against it and instead suggested vitamins, juicing, diets, etc.
>
> This was five years ago. Not only was I able to go to a full time job 
> daily for a year without taking time off, I was able to withstand and 
> tolerate weekly injections both of interferon and procrit (for the 
> side effect of anemia) with the assistance of pints of codeine cough 
> syrup that my nice liver doctor prescribed for me each month. There 
> were complications during The Year of Interferon, but I got through 
> them and the treatment was successful by the end despite the odds 
> being against me. If in writing this I can give even one anxious 
> person hope, I'd consider all the fear and trembling I went through 
> before exhausting every reason to avoid taking copegysus (sp) and 
> riboviron worth it. Until a day came when I had to sit on the toilet 
> and stare at a syringe of viscous interferon and try to wrap my mind 
> around plunging it like a harpoon into my thigh, I tried to avoid it. 
> Though I never imagined writing this, I can now say I got used to it, 
> even to the needles. If I could, anyone can. In the name of fellow 
> seekers all, I still search for that one bright evening star, the one 
> sailors and sojourners throughout history have followed through storms 
> and across unknown oceans to their destinations.
>
> Emanoil
>
>
>
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