[Ibogaine] O.T. Bin Laden what rreally happened

Edward W edwardw at mtciep.com
Wed May 4 13:36:20 EDT 2011


ah, sorry Gary

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On 5/4/2011 11:34 AM, Gary wrote:
> Not jim, Jen... But that's what I mean about the cultural thing. Maybe it wasnt negative and I'm just being sensitive!
>
> Gary
>
> On 4 May 2554 BE, at 18:32, Edward W<edwardw at mtciep.com>  wrote:
>
>> I don't think Jim meant anything negative on your part Gary.  This board is very open, just expect relies at times from varying opinions.
>>
>> Peace Gary
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>> On 5/4/2011 11:28 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> I don't know if it's me or a cultural difference between the U.S and The UK but it seems every time I reply to a thread on here someone jumps down my throat :(
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On 4 May 2554 BE, at 17:28, Jim Hadey<jimhadey3 at yahoo.com<mailto:jimhadey3 at yahoo.com>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I say US. District  Court of some kind.  Think for a minute,
>>>> there was a guy in Canada, his name was Mark and he
>>>> sole marijuana seeds to Americans.  Well they made a
>>>> big deal out of it and either extradited him to the U.S. or
>>>> letting him do his time is Canada.  Now if they can
>>>> extradite a guy for selling marijuana seeds and try him
>>>> in some kind of federal court they can do it for bringing
>>>> down the three buildings, not two buildings for building
>>>> number 7 also fell exactly in it's footprint and it didn't have
>>>> much fire damage.  So I go with some federal court or
>>>> tribunal maybe in Cuba, that would be an good place,
>>>> nice and quiet.
>>>>
>>>>   - JIM
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Wed, 5/4/11, Gary /<sidskidpiercing at gmail.com<mailto:sidskidpiercing at gmail.com>>/* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     From: Gary<sidskidpiercing at gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:sidskidpiercing at gmail.com>>
>>>>     Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] O.T. Bin Laden what rreally happened
>>>>     To: "The Ibogaine List"<ibogaine at mindvox.com
>>>>     <mailto:ibogaine at mindvox.com>>
>>>>     Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 11:51 AM
>>>>
>>>>     The same way they tried the german Nazi leaders after ww2 I guess.
>>>>
>>>>     None of it sounds right though IMO
>>>>
>>>>     Gary
>>>>
>>>>     On 4 May 2554 BE, at 16:45, Jen Santos
>>>>     <jsantos at persephonebirthways.com
>>>>     <mailto:jsantos at persephonebirthways.com>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     >  On trial by whom?  What court?  International tribunal?  US
>>>>     Federal District court, for crimes that occurred in NYC and
>>>>     Washington, DC?  You gonna guarantee an impartial jury at that one??
>>>>     >
>>>>     >  I'm devastated to see all the rah-rah bullshit going on over
>>>>     this.  I think that in the end, he has won the greater victory if
>>>>     this is what we are reduced to.  But I don't pretend to have the
>>>>     answer either.
>>>>     >
>>>>     >
>>>>     >  On May 3, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>>     >
>>>>     >>  It really doesn't sound right.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>  Surely they would want him alive at all costs to put on trial.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>  I had visions of troops parading his head on a stake. Or maybe
>>>>     being kicked around the whitehouse as a football....
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>  The fact they apparently didn't know where he was even though
>>>>     he's been there 5 yrs plus is bulls**t too
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>  It's not gonna make any difference anyway. If people want to
>>>>     blow shit up they will always find a way unfortunately.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>  Gary
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>  On 3 May 2554 BE, at 19:53, Edward W<edwardw at mtciep.com
>>>>     <mailto:edwardw at mtciep.com>>  wrote:
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>>  One idea is that it would prevent his land grave in becoming
>>>>     a martyr's shrine. That does make some sense.  I would think in
>>>>     this case maybe showing some sensitivity could prevent some form
>>>>     of anger based retaliation...possibly.
>>>>     >>>
>>>>     >>>  ___________________
>>>>     >>>  Edward
>>>>     >>>  edwardw at mtciep.com<mailto:edwardw at mtciep.com>
>>>>     >>>
>>>>     >>>
>>>>     >>>
>>>>     >>>
>>>>     >>>
>>>>     >>>  On 5/3/2011 12:39 PM, junkboy wrote:
>>>>     >>>>  that the first thing i thought also matt... why bury him at
>>>>     sea? that smacks of a lie...
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>  On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Matt S<ibogamail at gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:ibogamail at gmail.com>  <mailto:ibogamail at gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:ibogamail at gmail.com>>>  wrote:
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>   Well I'm never quite sure what Earth I am living on but
>>>>     since when
>>>>     >>>>   did the US give any kind of shit about Muslim customs?  They
>>>>     >>>>   buried osama within 24 hours in accordance with Muslim practice
>>>>     >>>>   (but unfortunately they had to "bury" him at sea for various
>>>>     >>>>   half-way plausible reasons) but seriously when did we start
>>>>     giving
>>>>     >>>>   a shit about that again?  We regularly violate people's
>>>>     rights all
>>>>     >>>>   over the world, including inside the US.  We regularly show a
>>>>     >>>>   total disregard for other cultures, religions, and
>>>>     societies, and
>>>>     >>>>   yet for perhaps the most vilified man in recent history we
>>>>     wanted
>>>>     >>>>   to show some religious sensitivity?  Which is getting
>>>>     basically no
>>>>     >>>>   traction as a show of religious sensitivity anyway because they
>>>>     >>>>   buried him at sea.  Seriously?  I should believe this story?
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>   Its all BS.  I won't bother with sharing the flavor of
>>>>     conspiracy
>>>>     >>>>   theory that I am most inclined to believe but I will say that I
>>>>     >>>>   believe just about nothing of the official story around all of
>>>>     >>>>   this nonsense.
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>   Of course when a government makes a practice of deceiving the
>>>>     >>>>   public and persecuting and even torturing those who would
>>>>     reveal
>>>>     >>>>   the truth, they kind of lose credibility I find.
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>   Matt
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>   On 5/3/2011 4:32 AM, Nola Ephram wrote:
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>       I'm already feeling that I'll regret pointing this out, but
>>>>     >>>>       over here on Earth 1, Bin Laden was in his 50s and 'we'
>>>>     killed
>>>>     >>>>       him living in a mansion, not hiding in a cave. I understand
>>>>     >>>>       that over on Earths 17, 19 and 49, all those pics of his
>>>>     >>>>       childhood in private school wearing fashionable clothes and
>>>>     >>>>       smiling with the other rich kids, were photoshopped
>>>>     plants. I
>>>>     >>>>       do also understand that the chem trials could have aged him
>>>>     >>>>       prematurely, but in all the pics I've ever seen of Bin
>>>>     Laden,
>>>>     >>>>       his video proclamations, etc, he more or less looks like a
>>>>     >>>>       person who is in their late 40s, early 50s. If he was
>>>>     >>>>       70something in all the video released during the last 10
>>>>     >>>>       years, then he must have been living right and had
>>>>     excellent
>>>>     >>>>       plastic surgery. If he was 70something or in his 80s, he is
>>>>     >>>>       also mysteriously older then his mother, but those things
>>>>     >>>>       happen frequently on Earth 24 when a rift in space-time
>>>>     opens
>>>>     >>>>       due to too much chem trail activity.
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>          ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>     >>>>       *From:* Jim Hadey<jimhadey3 at yahoo.com
>>>>     <mailto:jimhadey3 at yahoo.com>
>>>>     >>>>  <mailto:jimhadey3 at yahoo.com<mailto:jimhadey3 at yahoo.com>>>
>>>>     >>>>       *To:* Ibogaine<Ibogaine at mindvox.com
>>>>     <mailto:Ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>>>>     >>>>  <mailto:Ibogaine at mindvox.com<mailto:Ibogaine at mindvox.com>>>
>>>>     >>>>       *Sent:* Mon, May 2, 2011 9:09:06 AM
>>>>     >>>>       *Subject:* [Ibogaine] O.T. Bin Laden what rreally happened
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>       Hi Folks,
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>       Yea, they got ole Bin Laden.  They were waiting
>>>>     >>>>       to get him maybe 9 months before the election
>>>>     >>>>       to make Obama look good which is hard to do.
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>       Well the army and soldiers went into a cave an
>>>>     >>>>       found Bin Laden there and he had a heart attack
>>>>     >>>>       or stroke or something.  So they were going to
>>>>     >>>>       write a report and that and the Sgt said   Wait
>>>>     >>>>       let's back up 100 yards and shell the hell out of
>>>>     >>>>       them they we will be on TV and all get promoted
>>>>     >>>>       for we got the number one man.  He was 80 plus
>>>>     >>>>       and died by heart attack.  Now if I was there I
>>>>     >>>>       would find some Pakistan guy and say he
>>>>     >>>>       captured him and shot him and then he gets the
>>>>     >>>>       reward and we split.  Don't believe everything
>>>>     >>>>       they say on TV.  The guy had a heart attack.
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>        - JIM
>>>>     >>>>
>>>>     >>>>
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