[Ibogaine] NEWSFLASH - DEA LEGALIZES IBOGAINE
Stefan Stuck
ststuck at comcast.net
Mon Mar 15 14:45:43 EDT 2010
Are you forgetting about Wyoming? Wyoming is the meth capital!
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From: "James Forristal" <psychonaut101 at gmail.com>
To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:25:20 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] NEWSFLASH - DEA LEGALIZES IBOGAINE
Kansas city on both sides of the border.
On 3/14/10, Dana Beal <dana at phantom.com> wrote:
> Where in Kansas and Missouri?
>
> Dana/cnw
>
> On Mar 14, 2010, at 10:46 PM, James Forristal wrote:
>
>> I have family in kansas and missouri.. They are pro iboga after my
>> treatment, I can see what they are willing to do. Those states are
>> full of tight assed self serving repressed individuals in government
>> (more so than some other states ;) but hey it's worth a try!
>>
>> On 3/14/10, Dana Beal <dana at phantom.com> wrote:
>>> Yeah, and that was "FDA approved..."
>>>
>>> The OASAS stuff is old. The DEA took down their ibogaine website last
>>> year, when I demanded that they update it to include the GDNF
>>> findings (replacing the nor-ibogaine explanation. They seemed to like
>>> the idea ibogaine is just another maintenance drug).
>>>
>>> Who on the list can work on their Congressperson? I can send you the
>>> letter we want them to send the DEA regarding re-scheduling. (It
>>> should be a IV, not a II).
>>>
>>> Who's on this list in Kansas/Nebraska/Missouri/Iowa/Illinois (crystal
>>> meth ground zero)? McLellan admitted they have nothing at all to
>>> treat
>>> crystal meth; but their commitment is still to push treatment, not
>>> legalization. And they're still pouring money into a cocaine vaccine
>>> that won't work.
>>>
>>> Dana/cnw
>>>
>>> On Mar 14, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Dana Beal wrote:
>>>
>>>> Meant to say "This IS consistent..."
>>>>
>>>> Dana/cnw
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 14, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Mason Shipley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the repost Dana. At least we are certain that you didn't
>>>>> just imagine it, it sure seems to say Schedule II.
>>>>>
>>>>> Something else that's interesting is this:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.oasas.state.ny.us/AdMed/FYI/fyiibogaine.cfm#_jmp0_
>>>>>
>>>>> Our government's acceptance and acknowledgement of ibogaine's
>>>>> medical
>>>>> value looks like it's on the increase. I admit that I'm shocked
>>>>> and
>>>>> most pleasantly surprised!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Dana Beal <dana at phantom.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I got the original document, but it's NOT an announcement of
>>>>>> re-
>>>>>> scheduling per se. It simply says that the application went thru
>>>>>> with no objections to MANUFACTURE ibogaine as a Schedule II
>>>>>> controlled substance. This consistent with their bifurcation of
>>>>>> voacangine into schedule II for purposes of manufacture, but
>>>>>> schedule I the minute you try to put it into a human without an
>>>>>> FAD-approved trial.
>>>>>> Or it could be a typo. However, it is significant that many
>>>>>> pharmas are suddenly gearing up to make ibo. Maybe they know
>>>>>> something. Maybe we are watching a stealth re-scheduling.
>>>>>> Now is the time to have your Congressman ask why ibogaine is even
>>>>>> Schedule II, if as Alper et al said in their 2000 review article,
>>>>>> NIDA determined ibogaine has no abuse potential. (Even Schedule II
>>>>>> has to have high potential for abuse.) It can't be both a drug of
>>>>>> abuse, and have no abuse potential.
>>>>>> We gotta re-locate the NIDA study that showed rats won't self-
>>>>>> administer ibo. There's one for 18-MC.
>>>>>> Anyway, this is a hook for Hinchey or Webb to send that letter.
>>>>>> Dana/cnw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notice of Registration - 2010
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Federal Register: March 5, 2010 (Volume 75, Number 43)]
>>>>>> [Notices]
>>>>>> [Page 10313-10314]
>>>>>> From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access
>>>>>> [wais.access.gpo.gov]
>>>>>> [DOCID:fr05mr10-120]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Drug Enforcement Administration
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manufacturer of Controlled Substances; Notice of Registration
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By Notice dated October 16, 2009, and published in the Federal
>>>>>> Register on October 28, 2009, (74 FR 55586), Lonza Riverside, 900
>>>>>> River Road, Conshohocken, Pennsylvania 19428, made application by
>>>>>> renewal to the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) to be
>>>>>> registered as a bulk manufacturer of the basic classes of
>>>>>> controlled substances listed in schedules I and II:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Drug
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Schedule
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gamma Hydroxybutyric Acid (2010)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Methaqualone (2565)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> II
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ibogaine (7260)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> II
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The company plans to manufacture bulk products for finished dosage
>>>>>> units and distribution to its customers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No comments or objections have been received. DEA has considered
>>>>>> the factors in 21 U.S.C. 823(a) and determined that the
>>>>>> registration of Lonza Riverside to manufacture the listed basic
>>>>>> classes of controlled substances is consistent with the public
>>>>>> interest at this time. DEA has investigated Lonza Riverside to
>>>>>> ensure that the company's registration is consistent with the
>>>>>> public interest. The investigation has included inspection and
>>>>>> testing of the company's physical security systems, verification
>>>>>> of the company's compliance with state and local laws, and a
>>>>>> review of the company's background and history. Therefore,
>>>>>> pursuant to 21 U.S.C. 823, and in accordance with 21 CFR 1301.33,
>>>>>> the above named company is granted registration as a bulk
>>>>>> manufacturer of the basic classes of controlled substances listed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dated: February 26, 2010.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joseph T. Rannazzisi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deputy Assistant Administrator, Office of Diversion Control, Drug
>>>>>> Enforcement Administration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Matt S wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is this: http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/scheduling.html
>>>>>> which says it is schedule I. Not that I would expect anyone at
>>>>>> DEA to be anything like on top of the game when it comes to making
>>>>>> an update of this sort. No offense to you Dana, but until I see
>>>>>> it on an official website like that I would be inclined to
>>>>>> question the information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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