[Ibogaine] Updated extracton of Iboga alkaloids from rootbark, with added measurements..

Helpful Hopeful helpful_hopeful at yahoo.com
Sun Feb 21 18:55:52 EST 2010

It definitely wouldn't hurt, but this is how I did it with Chris Jenks' help, via emails on this list.  

I just wanted to type up a detailed explanation of what to do, and if anyone is performing the extraction and needs help I can chime in as needed.  

I can be contacted off-list, or I am sure Chris can chime in on anything that I am unsure of.  I can verify it works wonderfully, and will be taking the journey again myself soon.  

I only regret I could take pictures of each step, cause I have no camera.  I do hope this is detailed and helpful enough for those out there without access to other treatment options.



--- On Sun, 2/21/10, Jennifer Santos <jsantos at persephonebirthways.com> wrote:

> From: Jennifer Santos <jsantos at persephonebirthways.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Updated extracton of Iboga alkaloids from rootbark, with added measurements..
> To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 3:41 PM
> Damn, thanks, helpful - you mean I
> didn't have to be scribbling away the whole time there
> in the second row??  LOL!
>  Jennifer Santos, BBB, CD
> (DONA)Persephone
> Birthways609-737-3MOMjsantos at persphonebirthways.com
> On Feb 21, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Helpful Hopeful
> wrote:
> This tek was adapted from Chris Jenks'
> extraction notes found elsewhere on the internet. I have
> added the measurements used in panoramix's tek
> (DMT-Nexus.com), to be more precise, so thanks to both of
> you!  I have modified it slightly per my own tek,
> developed with Chris Jenks' help, and have added precise
> measurements from reading panroramix's tek. It is nice
> to have more precise measurements, rather than just going by
> eye and careful titration. So here goes:
> The Extraction:
> What you need: Plain white distilled vinegar, a stainless
> steel, ceramic, HDPE, or non-reactive container, janitorial
> strength (10%+) non-sudsy ammonia, distilled water, a
> funnel, coffee filters, old t-shirt, and the iboga bark.
> Optional for added purity: Acetone, muriatic acid (28-36%
> HCl), and Everclear (95% pure ethanol).
> 1: Take the bark, and make sure it's as fine of a
> powder as possible.
> 2: Add enough vinegar to thoroughly cover the bark. A good
> measurement for the vinegar is about 5 times the amount
> (volume) of vinegar to the weight of bark.
> In this instance 40g of bark times 5 would be about 200 mls
> of vinegar per soak. One may need slightly more in the first
> couple extractions to thoroughly cover the bark, and excess
> can be used safely, however it will lengthen the time of
> filtering later, so try and keep the volumes minimal.
> 3: The bark can be stirred occasionally, and left to sit
> for at least one hour.
> Adding heat makes the bark harder to filter, and isn't
> necessary.
> 4: After an hour has passed, one needs to filter the bark
> from the vinegar with a cloth t-shirt. Squeeze out the bark
> to gather all the vinegar and save this. The bark is then
> returned to the container for another soak. This should be
> done 4 times to be sure to get out all the alkaloids.
> 5: While letting the bark soak again, as in the previous
> steps, Filter the collected vinegar through coffee filters.
> This can take a long time to filter, since the coffee
> filters clog easily, and may need to be replaced often. Have
> patience though. If you can leave it sitting in the funnel,
> with a filter, the juice will eventually pass through. This
> filtering isn't 100% necessary but it will remove all
> the fine plant particles from the solution, so the initial
> extraction will come out much cleaner, so it's a good
> idea.
> 6: Once all the vinegar has been collected and filtered
> through a coffee filter, you have two options.
> The first would be to evaporate the vinegar a bit, by using
> low heat and a fan. Under boiling is fine to reduce the
> vinegar, and will make it easier to deal with less liquid.
> You don't want to evaporate it to thickness though, just
> enough to make it easy to work with in a smaller container.
> The second option is to skip the evaporation and proceed
> directly to the next step.
> 7: Once you have all your vinegar collected, and evaporated
> a good bit, if you like, you are ready to add the ammonia.
> You can slowly pour ammonia into the vinegar, to make it
> basic. pH papers aren't needed, but if used, just make
> sure the pH is above 10.1.
> As you add the ammonia, the solution will heat slightly,
> and you will see cloudy precipitate forming. You can add
> more ammonia, to be sure, as too much won't hurt, it
> will just add to the amount of solution that needs to be
> filtered, which can take awhile.
> 8: Now, if left to settle, the precipitate (freebase total
> alkaloids) will sink to the bottom of the container. The
> majority of the clear solution at the top can be siphoned
> off, and filtered to be sure no precipitate is in it.
> If it looks clear, not cloudy, though, all the precipitate
> should have sunken to the bottom. By removing a large
> portion of the upper clear (tea color) water, this will
> allow you to have much less solution to filter out your
> alkaloids. You can save everything you siphoned off and add
> more ammonia later, to be sure you got out all the freebase
> alkaloids.
> 9: Now you can filter the muddy solution through coffee
> filters again.
> Filtering this can take a good bit as the precipitate
> begins to clog the filter, but again, be patient, as the
> solution will eventually pass through the filter completely.
> This may take overnight, so don't worry if it takes a
> long time. Once you have filtered the solution, you can set
> aside the clear tea colored water for later, to add more
> ammonia, and be sure you collected all the precipitate.
> 10: You should now have a coffee filter with all the brown
> freebase precipitate stuck to it. You should then add a
> liberal amount of distilled water to the filter in the
> funnel. You will thoroughly rinse the precipitate with the
> distilled water to wash away any extra impurities.
> Again, waiting for the water to pass through the alkaloid
> coated coffee filter may take awhile, so just have
> patience.
> 11: This precipitate can then be placed in front of a fan
> with a warm air current, away from UV light, and left to
> dry.
> This is now your crude freebase total alkaloid extract.
> This can be capped when dry and used as is, and should be
> much cleaner than the simple vinegar extraction. However,
> for those of us that want it much more pure, there are two
> options.
> First option:
> 1: Take the filter with the dried crusty precipitate and
> break up the filtrate to a fine powder. You can use the same
> filter, or take a new one and place it in a funnel that is
> plugged (SWIM uses a two liter bottle with the bottom cut
> off for a funnel, so capping the opening can seal it, but a
> finger may be used). Add the filtrate to the plugged
> funnel.
> 2: Let the vinegar sit, maybe stir it around a bit in the
> filter, then let it drain through, and save the vinegar.
> 3: You can repeat with fresh vinegar another time, and
> collect all the vinegar.
> 4: Add ammonia to the vinegar again, to precipitate the
> alkaloids, which should be even cleaner this time.
> 5: Re-filter out all the alkaloids, and let dry as above.
> This can now be used as is and should be even cleaner.
> Second (more involved) option:
> Okay so you have your brown precipitate in your coffee
> filter, now dried up, from the first portion of the
> extraction.
> 1: You now, take your acetone and add 15 mls of acetone per
> gram of freebase TA extract (brown crud), and soak the
> filter with it. You can stir around the precipitate in the
> filter, and wash two or three times with the acetone. The
> filter should contain any bark crud that got through, and
> any other impurities.
> This will remove the alkaloids from the solid filtrate,
> since the freebase is soluble in acetone.  Chris Jenks
> says about 50-60% of the crud is left behind as insoluble
> plant material.
> 2: Take your muriatic acid, and add it very slowly, to the
> acetone. You must do this dropwise, and watch as the
> precipitate forms. (one milliliter for each six grams of TA)
> is added in small portions, slowly, until the precipitation
> of solid begins.
> Adding too much can start to redissolve the ibogaine. You
> can add a few drops at a time, and watch as the precipitate
> forms. When it stops forming, you can place this into the
> fridge, to chill for a few hours, before filtering, and this
> will increase the yield. You can add more acid a second time
> to the acetone after filtering the first precipitate to be
> sure you got it all.
> 3: Filter out the ibogaine HCl.
> This is nearly pure ibogaine HCl, but there may be a bit
> left in the acetone, and all the other alkaloids will also
> be in the acetone. You can evaporate some of the acetone
> with a fan and low heat, then treat it with the muriatic
> acid again, and harvest any more crystals of ibogaine HCl
> that precipitate. Filter it out as well and add it to the
> first filtrate.
> 4: If you would like pure ibogaine HCl, without the other
> alkaloids, you can take the ibogaine HCl crystals, and
> dissolve it in boiling ethanol.
> The boiling ethanol should be added dropwise, just until
> all the ibogaine HCl has dissolved.
> 5: This ethanol solution is then left to cool in the fridge
> and the ibogaine will recrystallize.
> This will make the ibogaine HCl form much more pure
> crystals and can remove some of the ibogamine/ibogaline if
> still present in the precipitate. It is not necessary unless
> going for 98%+ purity, and repeated recrystallizations can
> yield very pure ibogaine HCl, but can cost a bit of yield.
> When this is dry, it is ready to take.
> 6: For those who want to recover all the alkaloids, so they
> can take a complete total alkaloid extract of high purity,
> they should take the acetone that they salted out the
> ibogaine HCl, and evaporate it in front of a fan with warm
> air current.
> The resulting leftover alkaloids will be an unstable oil.
> 7: Dissolve this oil in distilled water.
> 8: Add ammonia to this water with the oil dissolved into
> it.
> You will again see the freebase residual alkaloids
> precipitate out of the water/ammonia solution.
> 9: Filter out the freebase alkaloids, and rinse again
> thoroughly with distilled water.
> 10: Let the freebase residual alkaloids dry completely.
> You can then add your freebase residual alkaloids to your
> ibogaine HCl, and capsulize it. Freebases will be converted
> to the HCl salts in your stomach, so turning them into the
> HCl salt before ingesting is unnecessary.
> So there you have it folks. If you want a very pure extract
> in which you only need to take a gram or two of extract,
> versus 7-8 g of brown gunk, then this is how to do it! The
> purity should help eliminate some of the nausea and should
> also be absorbed very quickly by the system. 
> I added the measurements of acetone and HCl, since we
> can't all distill off a bunch of acetone without a
> distillation setup.
> Hope this helps!
> HH
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