[Ibogaine] re; plantQ

Jeremy Spence jlspence12 at gmail.com
Tue Nov 17 13:42:33 EST 2009

Man, thanks

You seem like a true friend.

I've got the IC On lock
I've changed my diet over the course
Of 10 years.
It's been a hard change.
But man,
I can't be running up as a paramedic
on a half gram of morphine a day..
It's not going to fly..

I like to get it down to 2 drugs
I'm on 4 hardcore controlled drugs.

Test shot once monthly, it's just a slight bit(next too nothing, per  
month.., just a slight boost on test levels with low (tested free at  
9, normal, ot 35-235, the free is what you want tested, the total test  
level, "worthless at telling you shit, because it could be bond up,  
meaning "not usable" )

Thevthe BS I'm taking..... Natural test shit won't over ride it, plus  
natural believe or not cost more  then the test drugs by injection.  
Injection it lower cost. Poeple don't know that..
My town worthless!!
They say why don't you get the cream Jeremy, I'm like, god damm you  
poeple(because roid BS, poeple know nothing about, even doctor don't  
know shit about the shit???, I know more then they do about the stupid  
ass shit.
Not that a give a fuck about being "right"
Hey, when I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
If I'm right, I'm right, I don't get into the your right I'm wrong BS..
I just try and learn as I go along..
I just try and learn as much as I can from others.
I love just learning.
I don't care about being "right"
I see it going down in the ER and doc office that want to be "right" so
bad that it ruins a persons life over the BS..
That's when I stop having to be "right"
Your wrong crap!!!!!!
It's childish!! And "GOOD poeple are dying out the BS..
This whole idiot reilgious idiot got to be
"right" crap...
I seen it from a far, and thought how freaken stupid are those poeple..

What's wrong with this country and just poeple in general that they  
have to be
Hey, I don't care, if they are right..
Cool. I'll tell them, i'm not to big
of a person to say, I'm wrong...
If I'm in the wrong I'm in the wrong.
I "don't have to be "right" all the time........'
I think it's stupid..
My test levels
They are still low, but fuck it, I don't want to be on a shit load of  
that shit either)
I'm more into the natural bodybuilding now..(however I don't have the  
for the supplements.. I don't have it)

But with the meds I'm on, nothing going to over ride those, so I need
the test shot.
It's not turning me into superman.
in fact I could use 400-600mg a day to get my levels normal.
But I just don't like fucking with un natural chem. Like I use to..
Don't really want to lose my hair "over night"
 From DHT conversion in the skin..

I use MSM on my head to keep the skin on my head from thicking, which
some how chokes off the hair at it's root, causing it to die.
At least that's what I think is
Going on with men and hair loss.

Plus your diet goes into it too.
your diet changes your body chem, greatly, just by what you eat.

But I can't live on.
Perfect deit,
But believe me, I try like hell to eat as good as possible..

I force fresh veggie "down the hatch"
I know this is not a game.

This is life VS. Death.......
And it takes work to get better.

I've got to.. I can't be out of it on pain
I just can't...
I've got to keep moving forward

Keep moving ahead....

Sorry about the idiot rants.
I just lose it at time with this...

Counting up every "last freaken pill"
It's crazy!!

Then they don't want you to have "any back up"
It's "crazy!!!"

It's fucked..

And then if you piss something that not spose to be there.
fuck, they run you up against a wall..

What the fuck do they think your going to do??
It gets madding..

I truly want to not be on opiates everyday.

Just in the past 3 days I've got my pain meds down to half in a about
3 days time.

Just because of telling my doctor about me breaking off a half of a
60 Time release..
But he hooked me up with some short
acting, 15mgs.
2 time a day.
which not much.

But he wants to see me off this shit..
if I want to be a paramedic, the opiates
Are going to have to go.....
One way or another..
Take it or leave it..

That's the deal son..
and if you don't like it, find a another job bitch!!!!

That's how the cookie crumbles...
Sorry Charly Brown..
One way or another "pain  
Got to go............

Thanks to all for putting up with
my fits of rage....... And idiot BS..
It's just at times madding!!

But hey, that's what 2mgs Bar are for..

That's my limit, I won't fuck with more the 2mg a day, of that shit..
Fuck that...

2mgs a day, that's it...
I don't play the down the hatch thing anymore...
Fuck that

On Nov 16, 2009, at 12:05 PM, "Halyna" <halyna at isp01.net> wrote:

> Jeremy:
> The fert formula is N-P-K; Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium. For  
> vegetative growth your highest number has to be the nitrogen, the  
> middle number, Phosphorus, is more for flower and the Potash, last  
> number also need not be that high but its a "structural" element. I  
> would avoid, like the plague, inorganic fertilizers. These are  
> largely used on our veg crops which is why all of them have lost  
> their flavor. The other reason is inorganics kill the mychorrhizal  
> bacteria which is more valuable to the plants than anything. Many of  
> the medias being produced (ProMix BX, the one I use only cause thats  
> all available) are now getting mychorrhizal bact. included although  
> its live so consider how long that bag has been at the store.  
> Because I do alot of plants I get a #3 bottle of endo/ecto  
> mychorrhizal bacteria dust every so often cause I use it on  
> everything's roots. Here, long time the Ohia trees, indigenous, have  
> been dying: Dept of Ag can't figure it out. I started inocculating  
> our Ohia trees and they come back like gang-busters; fertilizers  
> leeching are whats  killing them.
> On another note Jeremy; I know why you feel the way you do regarding  
> people, crazies etc and the frustration you feel over not being able  
> to do something: you are an empath. How do I know: it takes one to  
> know one. I do know what it is like to suck up another's sorrow,  
> like a sponge, and then feel it eat at you. We are ALL empaths its  
> just that some of us have a greater need, by who and what we  
> personally are to act on it. So I say this, as a slightly older  
> empath; regardless of the pain/agony/sorrow of another one cannot  
> loose sight of the fact that being as close to 100% in your own self  
> will enable one to better be able to assess and assist another.  
> Focus on yourself for a while; find what makes you happy, however  
> small, build it larger.
> And with that in mind now tell me what is you condition? You tell  
> IC, please spell this out for me: I want to ask my plant buddies  
> about it.
> Take care,
> Halyna
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeremy Spence
> To: The Ibogaine List
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 4:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] re; plantQ
> Yea, these rainforest plants
> Need to be grown different, then food
> crops.
> I read a shit load on soil chemistry
> The hard part Is make it work in "real life"
> It's kind of my EMT skills, yea, I got them, got my CPR card.
> "but can I make it work in real life???"
> On a seen that looks like the night of the living dead????????
> I want to be a paramedic.
> I'm working on getting on just Xanax
> 2mg(a day, 1mg once 2 times a day)
> It helps with the with draw.
> I've been able to lower
> My morphine from nearly 180mgs
> To well today
> around 45mgs.
> With little pain.
> My bladder must be getting tougher.
> I'm going to beat this if it's the last
> thing I do on this earth.
> I hate the Xanax bars, but they work well with the adderall.
> I hate benzos long term.
> Hard on the gut.
> But they help..
> I'm rolling with them.
> Fuck it. Call me a nut job,
> I like having those 2mg bar sitting around.
> Nice to have around.
> It's better then Valium.
> You couldn't put a gun to my head and
> Make me take that for another month.
> Fuck that..
> I'm sorry for my "CRAZY ASS RANTS and fits of rage....
> Please know, though it's frustrating
> It's not what it could be..
> I see the worse at my crazy nut job, 40 cal. Glock carrying,("having  
> to carry")
> "must carry"
> Black doc..
> He's cool as fuck..
> It's crazy over there though.
> everytime I leave there I see "how my life could be????"
> 99.9% of the poeple there just don't have 1 person to care about  
> them..
> Nobody!!
> And nobody really cares.
> It hurts me to see that..
> I see my self in some of those poeple
> at times, or who I use to be.....
> It's crazy over there.
> But as insane as that is, I kind of have the fasnation for that type  
> of nut job shit..
> Yea. I'm a nut job all right..
> You know you cracy when you start to like the crazyness, poeple  
> coming in just got out "of prision"
> "no insurance", "no parents"
> "took this lady home the other day,
> I felt so bad for her, she about had my crying, I mean I really feel  
> for these poeple man. She told me growing up all she wanted to be  
> was white, it had me near in tears hearing this.
> Her son had lead police on a 50 mile chase at over 100mh and totaled
> her only car.
> man, I felt so bad for her.
> I remember my stunt on morage ave.
> My faverate st. (why I don't know????????, that what my mom says..)
> To me near ever car wreak or police chase happen on that st.
> again 3-4 tickets in like 4 months.
> Bad year.
> The thing Is over at my black doc.
> I really feel for the poeple over there..
> I really do...
> I swear I reallly give a fuck about these poeple, they are fucked..  
> Noone cares about them.......
> I think about all the things I got which
> is not shit,(mainly from SSI.and a bit of food help from my mother.  
> About    90 dollars per week. Which adds up!!!
> These poeple just don't have a prayer or have any nobody to care. It  
> breaks my heart man, it really does.
> Poeple just don't give a fuck, and you know what after this illness  
> I kind of do.
> I tell you
> I would love to grow some organic food for them poeple.(one day. If  
> I had some land.)
> one day, I got to give back in some way. I've feel I've got to do it  
> if I ever
> can one day, I like fucking around with
> growing all types of plants, it's fun.
> Food plants orchids which I'm getting into just now.
> Orchids are true unbelievely beaultful plants!!
> I like the kind call the "moth orchids"
> They are my faverate.
> Yea, I like to get me a book on orchids.
> Heard the alakan fish emolsion won't
> burn.
> Everything thing else else I've tried
> Even ozmocot,
> It burned the shit out of the stupid things.
> They are doing better.
> Rainforest plants are touchy plants in general.
> As a rule, they just are.
> Heard maxi crop good too??
> I wonder what good you can use for veg stage????
> The fish stuff spose to be for bloom stage.
> But they convert back and forth. Chem wise.
> Nitrates(veg stage)
> Ammonina N.(for bloom)-which the fish
> stuff is kind of in the type....
> Plus the more Ca in the soil it reacts to form Nitrates I believe,  
> with can burn up a plant fast.
> They both can. But nitrates are harsher????
> That's what I've read.
> Soil chem, it complex as hell..
> But it's fun to learn.
> J
> On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:33 PM, "Halyna" <halyna at isp01.net> wrote:
>> Jeremy;
>> Until a plant is to the 2 or 5 gallon pot size they are in close  
>> proximity to the house and I "spoon-feed" so to speak. Before  
>> getting to a large pot size I feed everybody liquid fertilizers  
>> cause they have less capacity for burn. Have to go with what is  
>> available so I use Atlas Fish Emulsion, 5-1-1 and during increasing  
>> daylight and temperatures I'll add some Maxi-Crop which is  
>> principally K, the last number on the fert formula. Both of these  
>> are available in quart size bottles at garden/nursery businesses.  
>> Don't remember what the recommended dose is but I use a Tablespoon  
>> per gallon eyeballing formula; but no forget I'm closer to the  
>> equator than you, maybe start with teaspoon/gallon. If you getting  
>> white crystals precipitating at the bottom of the pot, outta the  
>> drain holes, too much fert and media age needs to be considered.
>> The 3-point anomaly has continued growing in 3's till the seventh  
>> node which threw 3 branchlets but these now have 2 leaves/tip.
>> Halyna
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jeremy Spence
>> To: The Ibogaine List
>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] re; plantQ
>> I doubt it would change the amount
>> Of ibogaine in it.
>> It happens with weed plants.
>> I heard there's no difference.
>> But I could be wrong??
>> More leafs means more production of
>> energy being taking up by the leafs.
>> The power houses of the plant.
>> So, yea, it could effect the ibogaine content.
>> More leafs,
>> more horse power.
>> maybe???
>> To make alkaloids
>> J
>> On Jul 22, 2009, at 3:18 PM, "Halyna" <halyna at isp01.net> wrote:
>>> Although I think Simon would have an answer, anyone else who might  
>>> have an answer please reply.
>>> The Iboga plant is set in paired leaves, opposing on the stem.  
>>> This is the mode it starts with also: 2 pod busters and continues  
>>> to set leaves in this fashion. Once in a while a mutation occurs:  
>>> 3 pod busters and the plant continues to grow with 3 leaves per  
>>> node as opposed to 2. If the botanists haven't changed the name I  
>>> think its called a "sport"; a naturally occurring mutation.
>>> Is there any significance to this mutation? One would think that  
>>> with the extra leaf per node it may be a more productive/powerful  
>>> plant.
>>> Any thoughts or experience on this?
>>> Thank you,
>>> Halyna
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