[Ibogaine] Chemical Nature of T. iboga

Chris Jenks chris at jenks.us
Mon Nov 16 15:59:36 EST 2009


   Dear Matt,

   I wasn't consistent in my naming - the link is fixed. Please reload the 
document after November if you plan to distribute it, since it is 
currently receiving comments.

   Yours,

     Chris

On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Matt S wrote:

> Hi Chris
> 
> The second link doesn't work.  Can you double check it?  I would like to see the document.
> 
> Matt
> 
> Chris Jenks wrote:
>
>         Dear Robert,
>
>         Please check http://puzzlepiece.org/ibogaine/literature/jenks2002.pdf and http://puzzlepiece.org/ibogaine/literature/ibogaine_extraction_manual.pdf
>
>         Chris
>
>       On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, robertj wrote:
>
>             Greetings to All;
>
>             I am seeking the following information on T. iboga root bark and am hoping that someone on this list can provide either the information sought or links
>             to that information.
>
>                   1)  A list of ALL the chemical constituents of T. iboga root bark (not just alkaloids);
>
>                   2)  The pH of a root bark solution and/or the nature of the major alkaloids in untreated root bark (i.e. are they in freebase form or are they
>             acid salts such as
>                   tannates).*
> 
>
>             The ultimate purpose of the information is to formulate a procedure for making a TA or refined TA extract that is efficient (majority of alkaloids
>             extracted), quick (few steps
>             in minimal time), simple (using commonly available equipment and chemicals), clean (minimal inactives and no toxic chemical residue) and sweet.  When I
>             say "sweet" I am using
>             the term in a very relative way to mean no added foul taste, changes due to heat, and minimal gastric impact.  I don't expect it to replace bonbons or
>             anything like that.
>
>             Another use for the information would be the ability to make the best root bark paste or mud.  Peyote is frequently made into 'mud' by combining finely
>             ground, dry buttons with
>             tea that has been brewed with other powdered buttons.  This sort of thing is approved of by most Native American Church groups who would frown upon
>             using an extract (other than
>             peyote tea). 
>
>             Mud is made simply by adding the tea to the powdered buttons until a clay-like (plastic) consistency is obtained.  The paste can then be hand rolled
>             into balls small enough to
>             be swallowed whole with more tea or water.  This eliminates the task of chewing dried buttons or trying to swallow a spoonful of powder.
>
>             I imagine that T. iboga mud would be the easiest and surest way for a 'purist' to eat enough root bark to obtain the desired effect.
>
>             I intend to 'publish' the results of my research along with any recipes I devise both here and elsewhere on the web.  I have no root bark with which to
>             experiment, but have
>             performed numerous extractions from biologicals in the past.  With information gleaned from the web and your contribution, I expect that I can come up
>             with a fairly good
>             process.
>
>             Your help and suggestions will certainly be appreciated!
>
>             robertj
> 
>
>             *  It is understood that the majority of the root bark will not dissolve in water.  However, the following procedure can be used to determine the pH of
>             a root bark 'solution'
>             and indicate whether the alkaloids exist as freebases or as acid salts:
>
>                   What is needed:  pH paper or meter; distilled H2O; (1) teaspoon of powdered root bark.
>
>                   1.  test H2O to make sure pH = 7
>                   2.  heat 150 ml H2O to boiling, remove from heat
>                   3.  slowly add root bark (to prevent boil-over)
>                   4.  stir occasionally until solution is at room temp.  Let stand.
>                   5.  hopefully, powder will mostly settle to bottom soon and you can measure the pH of a fairly clear liquid.
> 
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