[Ibogaine] I took opiates once

Bram Goodies b4goodfun at yahoo.co.uk
Fri Mar 27 02:15:33 EDT 2009


 All YOU know is that German lost the war  but you are an idiot.

people who have been there who experience the horror are still alive, shame on you!








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From: sitkaa <athabaskana at gmail.com>
To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Friday, 27 March, 2009 5:48:26
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] I took opiates once


lies, lies, lies, lies, lies

and you know it
 : (


On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:12 PM, sitkaa <athabaskana at gmail.com> wrote:

There are so, soo, sooooooooo many lies and deceptions surrounding the whole German wars thing, it is not possible to speculate what was really goin on there. All we know for sure is that the Germans lost the war - twice. The rest is mostly lies propagated by the winners. Lies that are vehemently imposed to this very day. Talk about those lies too much and you can find yourself extradited and imprisoned - Zundelized. God knows we can't threaten the applecart of the IOJ.
Ho, but I've said too much truth already. It is best to just keep your head down and shut the fuck up, lest you lose whatever pitiful life you are allowed.
I sometimes ask myself how long the scam can persist, but it has been persisting in one form or another for centuries. Don't look for it to end anytime soon, not even through another civil war in the U.S. and massive chaos in Europe.

But whatever, just forget you read this. It too politically incorrect...


2009/3/26 Jim Hadey <jimhadey3 at yahoo.com>


 
Hi Sitkaa,
 
After usingin H, say $20 3 X day, you will feel it but only for a minute or two; the
rush so to speak; then you are normal.  Take people using Lortab they may start
out taking 3 to 6 pills per day but if they take it to get high they may well end up
taking 10 or 20 tabs per day.  Yes, it will take away the w/d but you will not 
really be buzzed.  Much like those in the met clinic, they take their daily dose at
once and the don't really get high after a month.  And should they take more and
more they can get to a state where they can not get high unless they took a hell
of a lot.
 
 
Fun facts to know and tell.  Met was discovered by the Bayer (Bayer Aspirin) 
company in Germany; Hittler wanted a strong narcotic to use in the field for
it was hard for him to get Opiates, guess the other countries did not want to
sell to him.  But anyway they tested it out on guys giving them up to 2 grams per
day.  Now can you imagine taking Met at 2 grams per day and going in one day
and they say "Hey, the trials are over, the medicine has been approved, thanks
for your services, today is the last day we are giving it out.  OUCH, and for how long??
 
Take Care,
 
  - JIM

--- On Wed, 3/25/09, sitkaa <athabaskana at gmail.com> wrote:

From: sitkaa <athabaskana at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] I took opiates once
To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 10:40 PM



Your telling me that people who get addicted to heroine are not getting anything out of it? Just avoiding the negative symptoms?
That just sucks. Why do it anymore?

I mean really, why?

2009/3/25 Jeremy Spence <jlspence12 at gmail.com>

It the way they give it to also, they don't usually main line you

Also as far as opiates go, after so long you 
Just don't get high anymore.

Hell I could iv morphine and nothing.

But yea watch out for "trying" to go #2
Yea when hell freezes over

On Mar 25, 2009, at 6:29 PM, sitkaa <athabaskana at gmail.com> wrote:


Thanks Jim, I have always wondered why I didn't catch a buzz from morphine given in a medical setting - it shoulda been pretty strong. 
The best part of my time at that hospital was getting fresh air and sunlight.

2009/3/25 Jim Hadey <jimhadey3 at yahoo.com>

 
Hi Again,
 
It probably was regular old morphine sulphate at 15 mg/ ml.  I had it many times
when I was a kid and it would take away the w/d sysptoms but there was no
buzz.  Most of the guys said the same.  Also, the same goes for new morphine (SP)
aka race morphine - nothing at all.  On the other hand Dillies were always in demand
but were a bit on the expensive side.  Now the Dillies are dirt cheap since they came
out with the 8mg tabs.  With the Oxys you ( I )  feel the first shot then nothing.
But there are a lot of people who like them.  The thing is you can keep using them
and using them till done much like Coke.  Then you find you used a months supply
in two or three days.
 
Best to ya,
 
  - JIM

--- On Wed, 3/25/09, sitkaa <athabaskana at gmail.com> wrote:

From: sitkaa <athabaskana at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] I took opiates once
To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 5:54 PM 



Don't know which type of morphine I was given. The nurses just referred to it as morphine. It could have been plasma for all I know.


2009/3/25 junkboy <junkboy64 at gmail.com>

its easy to get high on morphine sulphate, just change it to morphine citrate, or plain morphine base... easy as pie.... 


 
2009/3/25 Jim Hadey <jimhadey3 at yahoo.com> 


 
Hi Sitkaa,
 
Contrary to popular belief morphine (morphine sulphate) does not make you high.
It is GREAT for pain and easy on the system (watch out for constipation) but not
all that good for getting high.   Now, speaking only for myself I can not get high on
hydrocodeine or Oxycontin (unless IVd).  There are many people who will take
hydrocodeine or Oxycontin rater than morphine.  On the other hand, I can get
quite buzzed on 3 or 3 1/2 tablets of Tylenol #4 which I really think is me for all
the others prefer the Lortab and Oxy.  
 
Hope I confused ya ;)
 
  - JIM

--- On Wed, 3/25/09, sitkaa <athabaskana at gmail.com> wrote:

From: sitkaa <athabaskana at gmail.com>
Subject: [Ibogaine] I took opiates once
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 11:51 AM 



Figured I would start a new thread since the the last one devolved into ("*&^$%#@***&&^^!!!!**&^%$##^!!!!!!!!**^^%%$#@@!!!!!!!!")

So yea, I took morphine once. I was at the hospital, recovering from an operation. The nurses would occasionally give me a shot of morphine, but I didn't feel a thing from it. No diminution in pain, no altered state of consciousness, nothing. 
At one point I figured that since I was stuck in the hospital for the next two days, what the hay, might as well get as high as possible. Although I wasn't really in pain, I did my best agony imitation, and got the nurses nervous. They gave me morphine twice more, asking if that helped. It didn't do anything for me, one or the other, and I told them so. Finally they called the doctor to get him to prescribe some serious dose of drugs. They gave me what they described as a very large dose of morphine that should have knocked me out. It didn't do diddly to me. I don't know, maybe they were just yanking my chain the same way I was yanking theirs, but I seriously felt nothing from their IV drip lines.
So I gave up on that game. I was bored sitting in the hospital like that waiting to get better. Bored.
I finally checked myself out against the wishes of Dr. God and everybody, disgusted with the hospital experience. I walked home as a way to let off some steam. That walk was the best part of the whole affair.
I wanted to get high to see what all the fuss was about. I dunno, maybe I did get high, but just didn't know how to feel it, kinda like the first time you smoke pot. But still, the first time I smoked pot, I certainly felt something. I didn't feel anything with the morphine they were giving me.
Anybody wanta explain that one? Give you something else to talk about.
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