[Ibogaine] Ibogaine Digest, Vol 13, Issue 130

simon loxton simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Jan 29 08:48:08 EST 2009


I think he is referring to iboga not ibogaine of which I have noted a great deal of introspection to the point that it surpasses the hcl in low dose. There are a number of list members who can confirm this.




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From: Charles Rossouw <charles.rossouw at gmail..com>
To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Thursday, 29 January, 2009 12:32:59
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Ibogaine Digest, Vol 13, Issue 130


Hi James
 
My experience with several patients are that low doses causes only physical effects - a small degree of light-headedness, a little anxiety, a little insomnia, etc.  Nothing introspective, although I've also read that people can have a spiritual experience on medium (from 5mg/kg) doses.  So I think that unless you are really sensitised to the ibogaine and its effects (Or if its mind over matter) you shoulnd't expect too much of an "awakening". 
 
I,ve never asked anybody to compare with a MDMA trip, but I think if anyone made the connection, they would have said something.

Maybe I've only heard the "other" side, so please forgive me if I'm ignorant here.
 
Kind regards
 
Charles
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:58 AM, James Forristal <psychonaut101 at gmail.com> wrote:

I think low dose iboga would be similar in effect to MDMA from my experience.  It can, under it's effects take you to places of strength and connection within yourself and with others that aren't something you readily create and experience in daily life.  By taking these experiences and contrasting them with the weaknesses, indecision etc.. you experience in daily life you can begin to look at your motivations and intentions to see just what is manifesting certain situations and experiences in your life through your actions and reactions.  When you can stand from a place of clarity and strength for a moment it can give you perspective on what it will take for you to build a sustainable internal foundation to maintain it.  This is all dependent on a person being willing to go through the introspection to yield the questions and answers they may confront to heal.  

At least it seems this is one way iboga may be effective in low doses for some individuals.



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