[Ibogaine] cost and safety

simon loxton simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk
Mon Jan 26 16:52:18 EST 2009


I have heard of vit C being used to come down off LSD; I have found that benzos also work in the later stages of the LSD experience.




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From: Luke Christoffersen <luke.christoffersen at gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, 26 January, 2009 23:05:56
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] cost and safety

I read that the vitamin niacin can bring someone down from an lsd
trip.. There are some that prescribe high doses of niacin for people
with psychosis. No idea if it works. Niacin(vitamin b3) supposedly
calms the system.

Luke

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Matt Shriver <ibogamail at gmail.com> wrote:
> James
>
> Where did you get this information that "Ladocaine actually blocks ibogaine
> from working all together"?  I am guessing you mean lidocaine not ladocaine
> is that correct?  Lidocaine has physiological affects, notably as an
> antiarrhythmic for the heart muscle, but not psychological.  I doubt it
> would do anything to "stop the the trip" and having been around the ibogaine
> scene for a lot of years now I have never heard it asserted that any drug
> blocks ibogaine from working altogether.  My experience with entheogens is
> that once you have ingested them you have only one option which is to ride
> it out.  Although I have heard anecdotally that some anti-psychotics will
> stop a trip with some entheogens.  I have also heard, once again
> anecdotally, that activated charcoal can absorb some substances from the
> bloodstream and bring you down faster.  Whether or not these last two are
> true however I do not know for sure.
>
> Matt
>
> James Forristal wrote:
>
> Thanks, it's nice to know other people relate.
> As for the ladocaine it's not about a person freaking out, that can normally
> be resolved without any medication or maybe a benzo if needed when using
> ibogaine.  Ladocaine actually blocks ibogaine from working all together,
> it's more for when you are in a life threatening situation and need to stop
> the trip right then and there.
>
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