[Ibogaine] newbie intro + mixing Ibo and Kratom question

george george_mc24 at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 24 09:11:52 EST 2009

Hello I'm a first time poster.
Great to be among other Ibo 'devotees' (hm...does it show that I've been fed by the Hare Krishna food van for years?!! Lol!).
No idea what the newbie protocol is. So will just ask my urgent question and leave posting my 'addiction c.v.' (!) until requested.
In a nutshell:
Q 1: How long should you wait between ceasing daily Kratom use, and starting Ibogaine (small daily doses)?
I read that you should never mix them. Something to do with MAO Inhibitors?
Too tired and drugged up to comprehend this stuff. (Pre opiates I could do Physics A Level no problem. Now I can barely understand the mechanism of MAOI, argh!).
Why do I ask this?
Was using Kratom to ease w/d, but have will run out of it in next 2 days (due to my latest delivery of Kratom going missing in post)
I have some Ibo left, and have used it before to slowly reduce, though with limited long term sucess. Every time I stopped for a break, the w/d returned as bad as ever. And they went on, and on, and Aris-ton (that's a ref to an old ad on UK t.v).
After over 2mo of this Ibo experience/experiment, I had to concede defeat and after a week off Ibo, I got onto Kratom.
Now, for reasons too long and boring to explain here, I cannot afford a week's break between stopping one and starting the other. Also, this time I'm switching in reverse, and this, I imagine, may be a very different kettle of fish.
I actually would prefer to just do Ibo, to get off the Meth and be clean, once and for all.
But I'm def. too ill  to do the full, flood Ibo treatment 
(14yr bad case of M.E. On a full detox, I need A+E/ER care within hours of starting. Extremely laboured breathing, heart pain and palpitations, postural hypotension so bad I faint with uncontrollable spasms on the way down to the floor, think.....bad imitation of Elvis shaky legs dance! Also borderline psychosis, which I've never had otherwise, except once, a year ago when I stupidly binged on Crack + Smack after neighbours decided I needed to be killed off......... simply for being gay, duh!).
And I can't seem to get the slow, Ibo assisted detox to work. Not when I'm coming off Methadone anyway (35mg quitting dose).
Which brings me to....
Any ideas what's been going wrong with my slow Ibo detox? Would be great to resolve issue. I'd rather get the slow Ibo detox to work and get clean sooner, rather than stringing things out on Kratom, then switching to Ibo.
Hope this was explained well enough to help people answer. Thanks for reading :D
P.S. About me personally.........I like bed Yoga (for lazy boys who like snuggling up), growing my own herbs, medicinal oral cannabis, tripping  with friends in Amsterdam parks on Dutch bikes (Wooohooo!), trying to knit wearable socks (still trying), Wallace + Gromit, squatting, squat culture,  and practicing random acts of kindness, just to see the look on recipients faces. 
Oh and I want to be a hospice worker, a unicyclist who juggles fire, sacred clown, visit where my Ibo came from and give something back, become an acupuncturist, and also a children's play therapist for kids who were abused badly. Last of all, when I'm deep in daydreams, I fancy myself as a queer shaolin monk, yunno, the ones who do way cool martial arts.
Think the acupuncturist is most likely, lol. (cos I did manage to self acupuncture my way out of a wheelchair, after cops bust me into one cos I shouted fuck Tony Blair on Mayday 2001. Ohhhhh, pardon meeeeee officer!!!).
'nuff said! Peace and oral cannabis to all who desire them! ;D

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