[Ibogaine] QT info

Kevin Walker kevin at ibogainesa.co.za
Mon Jan 19 16:14:05 EST 2009



QT interval represents the electrical re-polarization of the heart. It is
measured from an electrocardiogram (ECG). A long QT interval predisposes the
heart to arrhythmias, which can sometimes be life threatening. Most cases
are acquired due to abnormalities in the blood electrolytes (low potassium
or magnesium) or certain drugs (psychotropic agents, certain antibiotics and
antifungal). It can also be due to decrease blood supply to certain regions
of the heart (coronary artery disease) or myocardial disease. The congenital
variety is known as long QT syndrome and there over 7 - 10 subtypes. 









NHP / Dr Kevin Walker (Reg No: 6206429)

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From: ibogaine-bounces at mindvox.com [mailto:ibogaine-bounces at mindvox.com] On
Behalf Of michael langshaw
Sent: 19 January 2009 10:55 PM
To: The Ibogaine List
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] QT info


Hi Guys,

Could someone tell me what QT is.  Thanks...Mike

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, Charles Rossouw <charles.rossouw at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Charles Rossouw <charles.rossouw at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] QT info
To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 11:39 AM

Hi Matt


Amiodarone can be used, although there is small possibility that it can also
cause prolonged QT. The problem with the seizures are that people can
misinterpret it as severe withdrawals, and may think to use morphine, which
can then become fatal.  It is important to give the personnel at the
hospital as much a possible information about ibogaine, and to tell
everybody that has contact with the patient: "NO OPIATES!"


I agree that patients should be monitored by ECG throughout treatment,
although I have never done that.  Mia culpa.  I just think the monitor
should be on an extension in a different room, because of the constant
beeping, which be distractive.


Kind regards



On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Matt Shriver <ibogamail at gmail.com> wrote:


After reading this I wondered if what they are calling a "seizure-like
attack" in the article about the incident in the Netherlands, was actually a
loss of consciousness.  If it is as common as they say it is, I imagine that
unfortunately, we may be seeing more deaths.  To answer my own question from
my previous post it looks like her corrected QT of 616ms is actually quite

This article also says "It is generally estimated that approximately 10% to
12% of all patients with long QT syndrome show a normal QT-interval on their
ECG."  which is a little troubling in terms of exclusion criteria.  They
also mention physical exertion and stress as being points at which high QT
interval people suddenly die.  I know it is common for the Bwiti to engage
in physical exertion (i.e. dancing) while on low doses of iboga, I wonder if
there have been incidences in which these people suddenly died without

They also mention beta blockers as a likely treatment. Would anyone who
knows about these things care to conjecture what might happen if someone
took a beta blocker with ibogaine?


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