[Ibogaine] Ibogaine Digest, Vol 13, Issue 57

Brad Hays bradleyheathhays at gmail.com
Sun Jan 18 06:14:44 EST 2009


just, please

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 6:02 AM, Jeremy Spence <jlspence at mac.com> wrote:

> WHO THE FUCK HAS A PROBLEM WITH SIMON, IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SIMOM
> THEY GOT A PROBLEM WITH ME TOO!!
>
>
> YOU FUCK OFFF
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>>  1. Re: Similarities with Psilosybin and Ibogaine (simon loxton)
>>  2. Re: RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls (simon loxton)
>>  3. Re: RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls (Jasen C)
>>  4. Re: RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls (simon loxton)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:02:19 +0000 (GMT)
>> From: simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Similarities with Psilosybin and Ibogaine
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Message-ID: <591613.91287.qm at web28605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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>> I was going to suggest he leave his mothers PC alone and stick with the
>> play station but did not want to aggravate his condition.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Capt Kirk <captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 9:59:43
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Similarities with Psilosybin and Ibogaine
>>
>>
>> Um, ok and you are?  And what's your site so I know never ever ever ever
>> to visit it? Not that I believe in hell
>> anyway.......................................
>> Love these charming emails.....
>> Unless I missing something................wtf?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: s james <niknox at shaw.ca>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>>
>> ?
>> listen simon you appear more than most cockroach infestations fuck off
>> from my site or hell you invite
>>
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>> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:03:27 +0000 (GMT)
>> From: simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Message-ID: <76138.35638.qm at web28616.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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>>
>> I get what you mean though; iboga is very good on the psycho-spiritual
>> side; its just that iboga is more difficult to work with
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jasen C <jasenhappy2008 at yahoo.com.au>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 10:56:36
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> Hello Simon,
>>
>> I agree Iboga works well for addiction I was given Iboga 5 years ago for a
>> 23 year methadone habit and I have seen it work on many other people.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 6:23:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> I was referring to root bark when I said iboga. I find iboga works very
>> well for addiction; ask Matt for one.
>>
>> I think ibogaine is just a hell of a lot easier which is why I like it for
>> addiction interruption; especially for opiates.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jasen C <jasenhappy2008 at yahoo.com.au>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 8:34:50
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> Hello Simon,
>>
>> You may be talking about another iboga extract not Indra, if you took
>> 10grams of the Indra it would blow your top, break the head completely open
>> in most cases and stop withdrawal completely. I have seen people have a lot
>> less than 10 grams, more like 4 to 7grams of Indra and it has worked
>> beautifully.
>>
>> As I am sure you would know, the Indra was made many years ago ( a few
>> dozen kilo's) and is the only known proven extract where the content of
>> Ibogaine is known so a dose can be correctly measured.
>>
>> Sara in Amsterdam does this very well and is the only source of Indra that
>> I know of. We need her back on the list
>>
>> With opiate withdrawal a flood dose then a booster dose seems to work well
>> with Ibogaine.
>>
>> I saw someone the other day who had 5 grams of Indra Extract for psycho
>> spiritual. Seems to be much smoother than Ibogaine, maybe the other
>> alkaloids play a part that science has not been able to measure yet.
>>
>> Ibogaine seems to work better for addiction as it coats the receptors
>> better however I believe Iboga is better for psycho spiritual.
>>
>> Jasen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 3:46:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> Well are you referring to ibogaine (an extract) or what was known as
>> indra?
>>
>> I guess you are referring to opiate withdrawal but its more common to give
>> lower doses over an extended period of time for meth and coke; Rocky came up
>> with a good protocol like this.
>>
>> Personally I have never experimented with the least you would need to keep
>> withdrawal from opiates at bay. I would not want to put the patient in an
>> uncomfortable position by doing this. Saying so; 5-10g of iboga is enough to
>> keep withdrawal at bay for up to 12 hrs. This is about all I can offer from
>> experience; I would only be guessing or using some one elses information in
>> terms of an extract or ibogaine in a minimal dose and I cant think of any
>> off hand.
>>
>> The lowest I have used ibogaine wise for opiates is 16mg/kg but prefer to
>> work between 17 and 20 mg/kg.
>>
>> Generally I prefer a single dose followed up by low doses for opiates so
>> there is no discomfort.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: DC from AZ <dcollier9 at cox.net>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, 17 January, 2009 19:29:26
>> Subject: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> Anyone know what a non-initiation, medical only RX script might say
>> for low dose usage of Iboga extract for relief of withdrawls.
>>
>> are we there yet ?
>>
>> http://www.drogriporter.hu/en/ibogainesession.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Don zo
>> "Love converts hearts, and gives peace..."
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: michael langshaw
>> To: The Ibogaine List
>> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 7:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] CIA drug abuse
>>
>> That's what my shrink did to me with this suboxone shit. I went int his
>> office, told him how much I was using and he wrote me out a script and sent
>> me on my way. Nice guy. I got no one to blame but myself. I was capable of
>> researching it.......Sorry, just a little venting there.
>> Mike
>>
>> --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Edward A. Weissbard <edward.escs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Edward A. Weissbard <edward.escs at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] CIA drug abuse
>> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
>> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 8:37 PM
>>
>>
>> Scott,
>>
>> Reading the info. reminded me of the movie, *Jacobs Ladder* from early
>> 90's, where the US Army experimented with BZ Gas on active duty personal
>> during Vietnam.  A Very strange but interesting movie, for those that
>> haven't seen it yet.  Seems pretty low to give someone a mind altering
>> substance without them even knowing.
>> --
>> Edward
>>
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>> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:43:34 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Jasen C <jasenhappy2008 at yahoo.com.au>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Message-ID: <610555.48729.qm at web59616.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
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>>
>> Hello Simon
>>
>> Yes your right. Iboga is more difficult to work with unless of course you
>> know the Iboga you are working with (content of Ibogaine) such as the
>> Indra?extract Sara works with. Then you can dose with confidence that the
>> client gets what they need.
>>
>> I have seen Sara dose people with addictions and for psycho spiritual with
>> her Iboga extract?with great results.
>>
>> I understand your comment that Ibogaine is easier to work with.
>>
>> Jasen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 7:03:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> I get what you mean though; iboga is very good on the psycho-spiritual
>> side; its just that iboga is more difficult to work with
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jasen C <jasenhappy2008 at yahoo.com.au>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 10:56:36
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> Hello Simon,
>>
>> I agree Iboga works well for addiction I was given Iboga 5 years ago for a
>> 23 year methadone habit and I have seen it work on many other people.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co..uk>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 6:23:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> I was referring to root bark when I said iboga. I find iboga works very
>> well for addiction; ask Matt for one.
>>
>> I think ibogaine is just a hell of a lot easier which is why I like it for
>> addiction interruption; especially for opiates.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jasen C <jasenhappy2008 at yahoo.com.au>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 8:34:50
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> Hello Simon,
>>
>> You may be talking about another iboga extract not Indra, if you took
>> 10grams of the Indra?it would blow your top, break the head completely open
>> in most cases and stop withdrawal completely. I have seen people have a lot
>> less than 10 grams, more like 4 to 7grams of Indra and it has worked
>> beautifully.
>>
>> As?I am sure you would know, the Indra was made many years ago ( a few
>> dozen kilo's)?and is the only known proven extract where the content of
>> Ibogaine is known?so a dose can be correctly measured.
>>
>> Sara in Amsterdam does this very well and is the only source of Indra that
>> I know of. We need her back on the list
>>
>> With opiate withdrawal a flood dose then a booster dose seems to work well
>> with Ibogaine.
>>
>> I saw someone the other day who had 5 grams of Indra Extract for psycho
>> spiritual. Seems to be much smoother than Ibogaine, maybe the other
>> alkaloids play a part that science has not been able to measure yet.
>>
>> Ibogaine seems to work better for addiction as it coats the receptors
>> better however I believe Iboga is better for psycho spiritual.
>>
>> Jasen
>>
>>
>>
>> ?
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 3:46:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> Well are you referring to ibogaine (an extract) or what was known as
>> indra?
>>
>> I guess you are referring to opiate withdrawal but its more common to give
>> lower doses over an extended period of time for meth and coke; Rocky came up
>> with a good protocol like this.
>>
>> Personally I have never experimented with the least you would need to keep
>> withdrawal from opiates at bay. I would not want to put the patient in an
>> uncomfortable position by doing this. Saying so; 5-10g of iboga is enough to
>> keep withdrawal at bay for up to 12 hrs. This is about all I can offer from
>> experience; I would only be guessing or using some one elses information in
>> terms of an extract or ibogaine in a minimal dose and I cant think of any
>> off hand.
>>
>> The lowest I have used ibogaine wise for opiates is 16mg/kg but prefer to
>> work between 17 and 20 mg/kg.
>>
>> Generally I prefer a single dose followed up by low doses for opiates so
>> there is no discomfort.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: DC from AZ <dcollier9 at cox..net>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, 17 January, 2009 19:29:26
>> Subject: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> Anyone know what a non-initiation, medical only RX script might say
>> for low dose usage of Iboga extract for relief of withdrawls.
>> ?
>> are we there yet ?
>> ?
>> http://www.drogriporter.hu/en/ibogainesession.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Don zo
>> "Love converts hearts, and gives peace..."
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: michael langshaw
>> To: The Ibogaine List
>> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 7:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] CIA drug abuse
>>
>> That's what my shrink did to me with this suboxone shit. I went int
>> his?office, told him how much I was using and he wrote me out a script and
>> sent me on my way.?Nice guy. I got no one to blame but myself. I was capable
>> of researching it.......Sorry, just a little venting there.
>> Mike
>>
>> --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Edward A. Weissbard <edward.escs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Edward A. Weissbard <edward.escs at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] CIA drug abuse
>> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
>> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 8:37 PM
>>
>>
>> Scott,
>>
>> Reading the info. reminded me of the movie, *Jacobs Ladder* from early
>> 90's, where the US Army experimented with BZ Gas on active duty personal
>> during Vietnam.  A Very strange but interesting movie, for those that
>> haven't seen it yet.  Seems pretty low to give someone a mind altering
>> substance without them even knowing.
>> --
>> Edward
>>
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>> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:53:34 +0000 (GMT)
>> From: simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Message-ID: <742836.608.qm at web28610.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Yes; its really knowing your product; and having a constant in terms of
>> quality. Ibogaine is more predictable in this respect.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jasen C <jasenhappy2008 at yahoo.com.au>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 11:43:34
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> Hello Simon
>>
>> Yes your right. Iboga is more difficult to work with unless of course you
>> know the Iboga you are working with (content of Ibogaine) such as the Indra
>> extract Sara works with. Then you can dose with confidence that the client
>> gets what they need.
>>
>> I have seen Sara dose people with addictions and for psycho spiritual with
>> her Iboga extract with great results.
>>
>> I understand your comment that Ibogaine is easier to work with.
>>
>> Jasen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 7:03:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> I get what you mean though; iboga is very good on the psycho-spiritual
>> side; its just that iboga is more difficult to work with
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jasen C <jasenhappy2008 at yahoo.com.au>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 10:56:36
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> Hello Simon,
>>
>> I agree Iboga works well for addiction I was given Iboga 5 years ago for a
>> 23 year methadone habit and I have seen it work on many other people.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 6:23:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> I was referring to root bark when I said iboga. I find iboga works very
>> well for addiction; ask Matt for one.
>>
>> I think ibogaine is just a hell of a lot easier which is why I like it for
>> addiction interruption; especially for opiates.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jasen C <jasenhappy2008 at yahoo.com.au>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 8:34:50
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> Hello Simon,
>>
>> You may be talking about another iboga extract not Indra, if you took
>> 10grams of the Indra it would blow your top, break the head completely open
>> in most cases and stop withdrawal completely. I have seen people have a lot
>> less than 10 grams, more like 4 to 7grams of Indra and it has worked
>> beautifully.
>>
>> As I am sure you would know, the Indra was made many years ago ( a few
>> dozen kilo's) and is the only known proven extract where the content of
>> Ibogaine is known so a dose can be correctly measured.
>>
>> Sara in Amsterdam does this very well and is the only source of Indra that
>> I know of. We need her back on the list
>>
>> With opiate withdrawal a flood dose then a booster dose seems to work well
>> with Ibogaine.
>>
>> I saw someone the other day who had 5 grams of Indra Extract for psycho
>> spiritual. Seems to be much smoother than Ibogaine, maybe the other
>> alkaloids play a part that science has not been able to measure yet.
>>
>> Ibogaine seems to work better for addiction as it coats the receptors
>> better however I believe Iboga is better for psycho spiritual.
>>
>> Jasen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 3:46:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> Well are you referring to ibogaine (an extract) or what was known as
>> indra?
>>
>> I guess you are referring to opiate withdrawal but its more common to give
>> lower doses over an extended period of time for meth and coke; Rocky came up
>> with a good protocol like this.
>>
>> Personally I have never experimented with the least you would need to keep
>> withdrawal from opiates at bay. I would not want to put the patient in an
>> uncomfortable position by doing this. Saying so; 5-10g of iboga is enough to
>> keep withdrawal at bay for up to 12 hrs. This is about all I can offer from
>> experience; I would only be guessing or using some one elses information in
>> terms of an extract or ibogaine in a minimal dose and I cant think of any
>> off hand.
>>
>> The lowest I have used ibogaine wise for opiates is 16mg/kg but prefer to
>> work between 17 and 20 mg/kg.
>>
>> Generally I prefer a single dose followed up by low doses for opiates so
>> there is no discomfort.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: DC from AZ <dcollier9 at cox.net>
>> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, 17 January, 2009 19:29:26
>> Subject: [Ibogaine] RX Iboga Extract for Withdrawls
>>
>>
>> Anyone know what a non-initiation, medical only RX script might say
>> for low dose usage of Iboga extract for relief of withdrawls.
>>
>> are we there yet ?
>>
>> http://www.drogriporter.hu/en/ibogainesession.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Don zo
>> "Love converts hearts, and gives peace..."
>> __________________________________________________
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: michael langshaw
>> To: The Ibogaine List
>> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 7:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] CIA drug abuse
>>
>> That's what my shrink did to me with this suboxone shit. I went int his
>> office, told him how much I was using and he wrote me out a script and sent
>> me on my way. Nice guy. I got no one to blame but myself. I was capable of
>> researching it.......Sorry, just a little venting there.
>> Mike
>>
>> --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Edward A. Weissbard <edward.escs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Edward A. Weissbard <edward.escs at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] CIA drug abuse
>> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
>> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 8:37 PM
>>
>>
>> Scott,
>>
>> Reading the info. reminded me of the movie, *Jacobs Ladder* from early
>> 90's, where the US Army experimented with BZ Gas on active duty personal
>> during Vietnam.  A Very strange but interesting movie, for those that
>> haven't seen it yet.  Seems pretty low to give someone a mind altering
>> substance without them even knowing.
>> --
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