[Ibogaine] Bwiti dance is valuable data

simon loxton simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Jan 15 11:26:49 EST 2009


I have a copy but would have to go back to the male and female participation. In general the whole village gets into it but there are different stages which you would not see; the dancing is more at the end as such.

I dont think you would want to have sex on a full blown ibogaine experience; I dont think you would even consider it but I am just speaking for myself. The idea of sex while on ibogaine has never even enetered my mind. Afterward's is good though and with smaller doses. 




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From: DC from AZ <dcollier9 at cox.net>
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Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Bwiti dance is valuable data

  
the movie was the utoob ibogaine movie with 
Patrick in it,
called Ibogaine Rite of Passage (I 
think).
 
 the Bwiti woman who had a re-initiation 
dose
for a stomach ailment with all kind of bwiti 
dancing around, male and female I thought (it was a trippy blur kind of). 
all the while the movie compares
that to another guys ibogaine experience at 
the mexican clinic etc.
 
this stuff can be analyzed for medical purposes, I 
am hoping some of our medical
scientists out there could do some study of the 
videos, or even better a live Bwiti
event, with proper permission etc.
 
another item: is sex possible during a full blown 
ibogaine trip ? or during iboga initiation (after things die down 
right)
any reports out there ? what is the impact on 
libido at the stages...
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Donzo
"Love 
converts hearts, and gives 
peace."
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: simon  loxton 
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Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:44  AM
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Bwiti dance  nudity

Men play instruments and vice versa but I have never seen women and men  dancing together; not in any of the ceremonies I have been involved in anyway.  I guess its not unlikely to dance together but men and women are taught  differently; the woman's discipline being Mabundi. So I dont know what movie  you mean.




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 From: DC from AZ <dcollier9 at cox.net>
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Sent: Thursday, 15 January, 2009  15:42:46
Subject: [Ibogaine]  Bwiti dance nudity

  
how come your Bwiti dances aren't co-ed ? the  movie I saw had bwiti women too...
the wife wont allow ?
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Donzo
"Love  converts hearts, and gives  peace."
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-----  Original Message ----- 
From: simon  loxton 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Similarities with Psilosybin and Ibogaine

Thats where Rudolphs red nose comes from.




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 From: DC from AZ <dcollier9 at cox.net>
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Sent: Thursday, 15 January, 2009  2:52:10
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you drink  rudolph's pee pee and live like a dark russian
woo  hoo
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Donzo
"Love  converts hearts, and gives  peace."
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> Muscimol sounds like a risky  substance of the Amanita mushroom.  Didn't know about the reindeer  technique..........reindeer urine.
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