[Ibogaine] illegal substance

Matthew Shriver matt at itsupport.net
Thu Mar 13 11:56:41 EDT 2008

OK so here is the response I got from websense.

Thank you for writing to Websense. 

The sites you submitted have been reviewed.  We have made an update to the
following URLs in our master database to address this issue:

http://www.maps.org/ - Marijuana 
http://www.ibogaine.net/ - Health 
http://www.ibogaine-therapy.net/ - Health 
http://www.ibogatherapyhouse.net/ - Health 
http://www.awakeninginthedream.com/ - Health 
http://www.iboga.co.za/ - Health 
http://www.ibogaine.org/ - Abused Drugs 
http://www.ibogaine.co.uk/ - Abused Drugs 

Categorization updates should be available in the next scheduled publication
of the database.  A new database is published every business day, five days
a week, Pacific Standard Time.  You should notice any updates referred to in
this message within 72 hours.

Thank you for your assistance, 

The Websense Database Services Staff 
Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:50:15 PM 

This sounds somewhat encouraging, from these categories maps.org should get
blocked and all of the treatment websites should get unblocked.  But as of
this morning maps.org is now blocked under category "abused drugs",
ibogaine.org is no-longer blocked, and all of the rest are unchanged.
Conclusions: no-one at websense cares, and they suck at their jobs.


-----Original Message-----
From: ibogaine-bounces at mindvox.com [mailto:ibogaine-bounces at mindvox.com] On
Behalf Of Sandra K
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:30 PM
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] illegal substance

Thanks Matt, keep us posted if they respond. 

We have a similar issue with Google, whereby we can't advertise because they
have listed ibogaine as an illegal substance. We have sent them numerous
emails similar to the one you just sent to websense, but have not had any

In any case, thanks for doing this. :-) 



----- Original Message ----
From: Matthew Shriver <matt at itsupport.net>
To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 12 March, 2008 12:40:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] illegal substance

This is the letter I sent websense.  We'll see if anything comes of it.

Dear sirs,

I am writing to you in order to bring something to your attention.  There is
a drug called ibogaine which is being used in many parts of the world to
treat drug addiction.  This drug is illegal in the US and about 4 other
countries, it is legal everywhere else.  I noticed that at my work nearly
every website related to ibogaine is blocked by websense with the listed
category being "abused drugs".  Being in the IT department I realize that
there are different levels of blocking that we can use with websense and
that we have our network web access locked down pretty tight.  However I
noticed that no other drug treatment websites are blocked under this

I can't see where the legal status of the drug in the US should make the
difference either.  Especially given that www.maps.org is not blocked under
this category.  Maps.org is involved in supporting and funding a wide range
of research with drugs that are illegal in the US, including research
involving ibogaine.  It also makes no sense that it would be blocked based
on the legal status given that all of these sites:
are advertising treatment that takes place outside of the US where it is
entirely legal, and yet all of them are blocked.  There are also a great
number of sites devoted purely to information about this drug including
http://www.ibogaine.org/ and http://www.ibogaine.co.uk/ among others, which
are also blocked under the same category.  None of these sites are
advocating anything illegal and none of them are discussing anything about
abusing drugs, beyond discussions about treatment. 

I probably wouldn't care except that I know some people, including someone
very close to me, who feel that they owe their life to this medicine, people
who were able to break the cycle of drug addiction with an ibogaine
treatment, most of them after having tried more traditional treatments
without success.  I find it ironic that information that could very well
save a drug addict is being blocked under the category "abused drugs".  I
don't expect a personal response to this, although I would welcome one
should anyone wish to.  I would urge you to reconsider this
mis-categorization of these websites or failing that, perhaps provide a
reasonable explanation for it.  

Thank you
Matt Shriver

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