[Ibogaine] reference request

ROCKYM CARAVELLI rockymcaravelli at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 9 15:30:36 EDT 2008


Thanx Janna glad to hear Javiar is doing good did he
go to transitional living ? We will have the after
care house open for extended stay on april 1st.
rocky
--- Janna Pijoan <janna at tcmclinic.org> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
> I am a mother of a 21 year old who was addicted to
> opiates.  When we began looking into Ibogaine for
> help, we educated ourselves quickly.  We called a
> number of clinics incuding Claire's (south of San
> Diego).  We have great respect for what Claire is
> doing at her clinic and each place will have its own
> particular feel and program.  In the end we chose
> "Awakening in the Dream House" that Rocky runs in
> Mexico.  It's been three weeks since our son came
> back from there and he is doing very well.  We chose
> the Dream House for various reasons.  First, its
> setting in a rural, relaxed environment appealed to
> us.  The fact that a person stays for a full week at
> the clinic (and ideally another week or more as an
> "out patient" in the community) as opposed to the 5
> days at other clinics, is quite beneficial.  The
> environment is safe, healthy, relaxed, and
> supportive.  The patient is respected and
> encouraged, yet their process is not interferred
> with.  
> 
> We went down to join our son for the second week and
> we certainly have nothing but deep caring for the
> people there who are passionate about this work.  I
> hope this helps.
> 
> Thanks,
> Janna   
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: simon loxton 
>   To: ibogaine at mindvox.com 
>   Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 12:34 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] reference request
> 
> 
>   Thanks for your story Sophia and I dont see it as
> negative at all. At least you got what you needed at
> the end. I think Claire focuses on safety in her
> defence but; and I dont want this to sound like
> advertising; but I like to first know what the
> persons expectations are and for the first day leave
> them be and just watch over them and do the
> necessary safety measures without interfering too
> much in that persons experience unless they ask for
> a response. Some people like the more shamanic
> flavour but some dont; I was recently accused of
> practising witchcraft and would be accountable
> before jesus (despite wanting the ibogaine.) Every
> one has their own approach and everyone has their
> expectations I think it is necessary to make those
> expectations known. The point is at the end you got
> what you needed and it was within you all the time
> and you were in no danger. Thanks though. 
> 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----
>   From: Sophia Depas <mssmdepas at gmail.com>
>   To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>   Sent: Friday, 7 March, 2008 7:24:52 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] reference request
> 
>   Are you talking about the place run by Clare and
> her sister near San
>   Diego?  If so, I went there.  I didn't like it.I
> only met Clare. But
>   she was like a junkie now addicted to 'helping
> others with ibogaine'.
>   The place itself was quite luxurious. Each very
> large room with a king
>   size bed had its own bathroom with whirlpool
> sunken bath, and two
>   balconies! Oh and a biggish  satellite tv but
> mostly in Spanish and no
>   guideto like 200 channels, and if you are under 
> the influence forget
>   it.
>   I was bored. When I imagined doing this I had a
> fantasy of the whole
>   shaman routine. Now possibly that was unrealistic,
> but I was bored
>   shitless and tripping for two days. And Clare was
> very very in your
>   face and cuddly and telling you bs like how much
> she loved you and how
>   much my family was rooting for me etc and I was
> thinking what the fuck
>   do you know?
>   In relation to the trip, the worst thing she did
> was to repeatedly
>   tell me that they were helping me rid me of this
> awful disease...and
>   that is so NOT my philosophy, and I was not
> expecting that. I had the
>   concept of maybe I would in fact decide that I
> wanted to use! In
>   actual fact I knew really that was  not it, b
> ut...That was up tro me.
>   What I did in the end get out of it was not too
> dissimilar.. The
>   message I got was that I needed to go back to Me,
> and my core beliefs
>   etc and believe in Me and assert Me and seewhere
> it was that I had
>   hidden the real Sophie.
>   Anyway you didn't wann a know all that...But it
> depends what you
>   want.They irritated me.
>   On 3/6/08, Jonathan Brownstone
> <thirteen23 at hushmail.com> wrote:
>   > Does anyone know if detoxnaturally.com - the
> Ibogaine Association in
>   >  Mexico is legit?
>   >
>   >
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