[Ibogaine] side effects of suboxone(naltrexone?)

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with or without nax is worth than methadone
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  From: chi malan 
  To: The Ibogaine List 
  Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] side effects of suboxone(naltrexone?)



  suboxone does not contain naltrexone. its 2mg naloxone (narcan) 8mg buprenorphine per 8mg suboxone


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    From: smithwmg1 at comcast.net
    To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
    Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:43:06 -0800
    Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] side effects of suboxone(naltrexone?)


    If you can get a prescription for Sebutex, that might help. That compound has no  Naltrexone in it-it's just Buprenorphine, unlike Suboxone which does have 2mg. Nalrexone/8mg Buprenorphine. Insurance companies sometimes are a bit more reluctant to cover Sebutex. wgs
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      From: ibogaine-bounces at mindvox.com [mailto:ibogaine-bounces at mindvox.com]On Behalf Of chi malan
      Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:24 PM
      To: The Ibogaine List
      Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] side effects of suboxone(naltrexone?)


      hey adam, ive been on suboxone for just over a year now.  i went on it after doing ibo.  i dont know how long youve been 
      on it but i know for the first 3 weeks while i was stabalizing i hated. i persisted though cos i didnt want to go back on methadone.
      in the first few weeks on sub i experienced headaches and extreme anxiety. now, just over a year later i have halved my dose 
      and im down to 12 (thats a huge thing for me). the reductions are painless, only the last 2 have been noticeable and at worst
      they are like having a very slight touch of the flu.  i do remember the first few weeks being very uncomfortable and the docs 
      gave me some other pills (anti depressants) to try and help that but in my case the extra pills made things worse and i cut them out.
      when i finally stabalised, could get a proper nights sleep and had no desire at all to do heroin - i fell in love with these revolting
      citrus tasting pills,  hang in there




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        Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:57:21 -0800
        From: jonathanswiftboat at yahoo.com
        To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
        Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] side effects of suboxone(naltrexone?)


        maybe so,but why would i go back on dope if i dont want it.Of course i was a little naive about the whole thing, i dont know what i really expected.anyhoo,its been a long winter,and i havent beenworking much, so ive been a stay at home dad , on this stuff.maybe i just need a real shot of sping.randy, thanks,i will call you.by the way, its jaspers 2nd birthday today, so im in a better m ood. adam




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