[Ibogaine] MK 801??

Warren Theriot wleetheriot at ca.rr.com
Sun Jul 13 19:52:52 EDT 2008


If a person were to need an NMDA antagonist to treat maybe a stroke,  
they would probably get ketamine, not MK-801.
Warren


On Jul 13, 2008, at 4:27 PM, Luke Christoffersen wrote:

> Aren't nmda antagonists supposed to be neuro protective? It just goes
> to show how many of these scientific studies are contradicting. most
> things I've read say that too much stimulation of nmda causes
> toxicity.
> Luke
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Warren Theriot  
> <wleetheriot at ca.rr.com> wrote:
>> Guess what happens when you take LSD with NMDA antagonists:
>> http://www.erowid.org/references/refs_view.php?ID=7077
>> Warren
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2008, at 6:17 AM, Jim Hadey wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Randy,
>>
>>
>>
>> It is mentioned in Wikipedia and Erowid.  It is said to cause brain  
>> damage.
>> Sounds like a
>>
>> good thing to keep away from.  When you say MK 801 is that the same  
>> as MK
>> Ultra??
>>
>>
>>
>> Best to ya,
>>
>>
>>
>>  - JIM
>>
>> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Warren Theriot <wleetheriot at ca.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Warren Theriot <wleetheriot at ca.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] MK 801??
>> To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>> Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:32 AM
>>
>>
>> Its probably similar to PCP.
>> Warren
>>
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Randy Faulconer wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Randy Faulconer <bicuitboy714 at gmail.com 
>> >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Hey yall's, I was looking around at the NIDA home page,  
>>> looking
>>> for what they may have said about Ibogaine lately. I didn't find  
>>> anything
>>> new, but I stumbled on to a report on MK 801. The drug name is  
>>> Dizocilpine.
>>> Has anybody had any experience with this? It is claimed to be a  
>>> strong
>>> hallucinitory substance, although it has some bad side effects.  
>>> Real bad
>>> amnesia for one. It has very strong auditory hallucinations and  
>>> lasts a long
>>> time. It is measured in Micro-grams so it is very potent and has  
>>> the risk of
>>> OD along with it. It's actions are in the NMDA antagonist group of  
>>> drugs.
>>>
>>>          I'm just curious about it>>??<<
>>>
>>>                    Peace Love and Ear Trips
>>>                          Randy
>>
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