[Ibogaine] MK 801??

simon loxton simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk
Sun Jul 13 05:02:03 EDT 2008

A friend of my wife apparently developed quite a Ketamine problem. According to her he had to shoot up repeatedly otherwise he experienced withdrawal in the form of intense stomach cramping etc. I will ask her again and see if I can add anything.
Ket. was quite popular and easy to get hold of here for some time; I remember the objective being to underdose so you remember the experience; but I would not be all that knowledgeable as we (myself and a friend) only went through a couple of vials. I never really got into it but there were quite a few people I know who did but not to the extent the friend of my wife did.

----- Original Message ----
From: Nick Sandberg <nick227 at tiscali.co.uk>
To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Sunday, 13 July, 2008 10:19:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] MK 801??

Well, to be honest, I don’t know of
the dose level, per kilo bodyweight, for kids or whether it’s a lot less
than adults take recreationally. So I couldn’t be sure how safe it is.
Ketamine addiction is increasingly recognized also. I don’t know so much
about it but I think it’s not such a physical addiction but more a desire
to get away from the body and maybe feelings.

From:ibogaine-bounces at mindvox.com [mailto:ibogaine-bounces at mindvox.com] On Behalf Of Sophia Depas
Sent: 13 July 2008 08:35
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Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] MK 801??
so I was right in the
first place, thought so. I was told that it was like the safest highs..and that
was in the uk ...
On 7/12/08, Nick
Sandberg <nick227 at tiscali.co.uk>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ibogaine-bounces at mindvox.com [mailto:ibogaine-bounces at mindvox.com]
> On Behalf Of Sophia Depas
> Sent: 09 July 2008 18:50
> To: The Ibogaine List
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] MK 801??

> Is the Yippee cafe east or west?
> And isn't ketamine the one  that was rumoured to be a elephant
> tranquilizer or something?
> Cuz if so,if it is the tranqi type thing... When I was into the club
> thing and what came with like E etc,oh no! I just remembered it's GHB
> I am thinking of, I THINK... now I've started I'll tell y'all
> anyway

Despite many media stories to the contrary, ketamine is usually regarded as
one of the safest drugs around. They give it to babies requiring operations,
if I recall. It's a dissociative anaesthetic. There's a guy in London called
Dr Karl Jansen who wrote a book on it and quite a few articles. Of course,
if you collapse on the floor at parties after taking it then you can get
trampled on.


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