[Ibogaine] shroomin'

Melanie Gutierrez gutierrezmelanie at gmail.com
Thu Jul 10 18:47:13 EDT 2008


The day I experienced this was the day before I was supposed to go to a
funeral, for a brother of a coworker that I'm close with.  He hung himself
because of addiction.  Coke and oxy's.
I couldn't go.  I felt the war on both sides that day.
M

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Melanie Gutierrez <
gutierrezmelanie at gmail.com> wrote:

> Speaking of peace love and destruction.
> The sunrise in Douglas where i work overlooking the town and agua prieta
> through a valley, are the most amazing I've ever seen of a sunrise in
> Arizona.
> Then.  AP as its called, is under a pretty big drug war right now, which
> continues.  Which is why I pour my heart out to all to send positive
> vibratory energy to our country's government (I send to others too).  I know
> its hard, the war on drugs in Mexico is different than the war on drugs in
> the US.
> http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN17454003  (07)
> http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20070302/a_mexico02.art.htm (couple
> weeks ago)
> It was a small but violent.  What I saw of it was sick.
> I thanked the universe then that Dana wasn't there.
> M
>   On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Randy Faulconer <bicuitboy714 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>         Hey DC, don't do windowpane while driving down Speedway towards
>> the desert. Wait till you get out at the foot of the mountains, build a fire
>> (if allowed) and then do it. Ahhh Tucson, what a great place to be. I love
>> airplanes so it's cool to watch 'em come in. What aint cool is wondering
>> what they are training for out in the desert like that. That air museum is
>> the best military museum in the US. Has to be. Then you got the bone yard
>> out there. All those A 10 wrapped up and waiting to be refurbished. Tucson
>> has such beauty surrounding it, and then such destruction waiting to be
>> unleashed.
>>
>>          Peace Love and Purple and Orange Sunsets
>>               Randy
>>
>>   On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:57 PM, DC in AZ <dcollier9 at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> shrooms were always good in tucson, fresh or dried, prefer dried.
>>> but illinois mescaline is good too, the purple anyway (shines clear
>>> crystal
>>> under a black lite)
>>> but always with take these with mj to greatly enhance the colors for a
>>> smaller dose, same as with blotter, microdots, or windowpane.
>>> dont do it alone, or with someone you are likely to argue with (a spouse,
>>> smile ?)
>>> dont do much alcohol with it, and no smack with it either, unless you
>>> want
>>> to blast off the earth.
>>> and dont do it if yur unstable, you know who you are. know what yur doin
>>> ok.
>>> to the moon alice...
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Donzo
>>> "Love converts hearts, and gives peace."
>>> __________________________________________________
>>>
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>>> From: <j0n at just-say-know.org>
>>> To: <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 7:49 AM
>>> Subject: [Ibogaine] shroomin'
>>>
>>>
>>> > Study finds long benefit in illegal mushroom drug
>>> >
>>> > By MALCOLM RITTER, AP Science WriterTue Jul 1, 12:07 AM ET
>>> >
>>> > In 2002, at a Johns Hopkins University laboratory, a business
>>> consultant
>>> > named Dede Osborn took a psychedelic drug as part of a research
>>> project.
>>> > She felt like she was taking off. She saw colors. Then it felt like her
>>> > heart was ripping open. But she called the experience joyful as well as
>>> > painful, and says that it has helped her to this day.
>>> >
>>> > "I feel more centered in who I am and what I'm doing," said Osborn, now
>>> > 66, of Providence, R.I. "I don't seem to have those self-doubts like I
>>> > used to have. I feel much more grounded (and feel that) we are all
>>> > connected."
>>> >
>>> > Scientists reported Tuesday that when they surveyed volunteers 14
>>> months
>>> > after they took the drug, most said they were still feeling and
>>> behaving
>>> > better because of the experience.
>>> >
>>> > Two-thirds of them also said the drug had produced one of the five most
>>> > spiritually significant experiences they'd ever had.
>>> >
>>> > The drug, psilocybin, is found in so-called "magic mushrooms." It's
>>> > illegal, but it has been used in religious ceremonies for centuries.
>>> >
>>> > The study involved 36 men and women during an eight-hour lab visit.
>>> It's
>>> > one of the few such studies of a hallucinogen in the past 40 years,
>>> since
>>> > research was largely shut down after widespread recreational abuse of
>>> such
>>> > drugs in the 1960s.
>>> >
>>> > The project made headlines in 2006 when researchers published their
>>> report
>>> > on how the volunteers felt just two months after taking the drug. The
>>> new
>>> > study followed them up a year after that.
>>> >
>>> > Experts emphasize that people should not try psilocybin on their own
>>> > because it could be harmful. Even in the controlled setting of the
>>> > laboratory, nearly a third of participants felt significant fear under
>>> the
>>> > effects of the drug. Without proper supervision, someone could be
>>> harmed,
>>> > researchers said.
>>> >
>>> > Osborn, in a telephone interview, recalled a powerful feeling of being
>>> out
>>> > of control during her lab experience. "It was ... like taking off, I'm
>>> > being lifted up," she said. Then came "brilliant colors and beautiful
>>> > patterns, just stunningly gorgeous, more intense than normal reality."
>>> >
>>> > And then, the sensation that her heart was tearing open.
>>> >
>>> > "It would come in waves," she recalled. "I found myself doing
>>> Lamaze-type
>>> > breathing as the pain came on."
>>> >
>>> > Yet "it was a joyful, ecstatic thing at the same time, like the joy of
>>> > being alive," she said. She compared it to birthing pains. "There was
>>> this
>>> > sense of relief and joy and ecstasy when my heart was opened."
>>> >
>>> > With further research, psilocybin (pronounced SILL-oh-SY-bin) may prove
>>> > useful in helping to treat alcoholism and drug dependence, and in
>>> aiding
>>> > seriously ill patients as they deal with psychological distress, said
>>> > study lead author Roland Griffiths of Johns Hopkins.
>>> >
>>> > Griffiths also said that despite the spiritual characteristics reported
>>> > for the drug experiences, the study says nothing about whether God
>>> exists.
>>> >
>>> > "Is this God in a pill? Absolutely not," he said.
>>> >
>>> > The experiment was funded in part by the National Institute on Drug
>>> Abuse.
>>> > The results were published online Tuesday by the Journal of
>>> > Psychopharmacology.
>>> >
>>> > Fourteen months after taking the drug, 64 percent of the volunteers
>>> said
>>> > they still felt at least a moderate increase in well-being or life
>>> > satisfaction, in terms of things like feeling more creative,
>>> > self-confident, flexible and optimistic. And 61 percent reported at
>>> least
>>> > a moderate behavior change in what they considered positive ways.
>>> >
>>> > That second question didn't ask for details, but elsewhere the
>>> > questionnaire answers indicated lasting gains in traits like being more
>>> > sensitive, tolerant, loving and compassionate.
>>> >
>>> > Researchers didn't try to corroborate what the participants said about
>>> > their own behavior. But in the earlier analysis at two months after the
>>> > drug was given, researchers said family and friends backed up what
>>> those
>>> > in the study said about behavior changes. Griffiths said he has no
>>> reason
>>> > to doubt the answers at 14 months.
>>> >
>>> > Dr. Charles Grob, a professor of psychiatry and pediatrics at the
>>> > Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, called the new work an important follow-up
>>> to
>>> > the first study.
>>> >
>>> > He said it is helping to reopen formal study of psychedelic drugs. Grob
>>> is
>>> > on the board of the Heffter Research Institute, which promotes studies
>>> of
>>> > psychedelic substances and helped pay for the new work.
>>> >
>>> >
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