[Ibogaine] MK 801??

Sophia Depas mssmdepas at gmail.com
Wed Jul 9 13:50:52 EDT 2008


god I talk too much! Poor Jupiter! LOL

On 7/9/08, Sophia Depas <mssmdepas at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is the Yippee cafe east or west?
>
>  And isn't ketamine the one  that was rumoured to be a elephant
>  tranquilizer or something?
>  Cuz if so,if it is the tranqi type thing... When I was into the club
>  thing and what came with like E etc,oh no! I just remembered it's GHB
>  I am thinking of, I THINK... now I've started I'll tell y'all
>  anyway...
>
>  I had a mate from SA originally who was a vet in Cambridger where I
>  was partying at the time.  He told me that the so called horse or
>  elephant tranquillizer was in fact just that, and was also used on
>  humans including new born basbies, as a premed for full anaesthesia
>  (sp?) operations. His info shared to explain it was in his opinion one
>  of the safer hallucinigetics available to consume. I wish I could
>  remember which it was..,First time I (knowingly) took GHB I woke up in
>  the ER having my clothes removed and I first thoiught was that my date
>  changed his mind about not wanting have sex with me..and then I opened
>  an eye when I became quickly aware that 'he' was getting help! Last I
>  knew we were snogging outside the then Kingston Arms. GHB was legal to
>  buy in sex shops in the UK until 10 or 15 yrs ago I believe.You know I
>  think it was ketamine that was the pre-med for animalsd and humans
>  alike...not GHB. Apparently tyhere is a fine line between  'high' and
>  coma with G and it was popular in the gay community to use with sex in
>  san fran . I dunno.They recommended in UK that one put initials in ink
>  on hand cuz they don't know what ur on so they think you've od on H..I
>  knew a girl who as soon as leaving hospital she went and got more!
>  First time I had it it wasslipped in my drink and all the girls
>  present in a club in Newmkt. God my memory isn't as good as I thought.
>  and I can't spell as well. I guess I gotta read more.
>
>  Have a nice day Everyone! Anything happening tonight at Yippee place?
>
>  Love and Happiness
>                              Sophie
>
>
>
>  On 7/9/08, Randy Faulconer <bicuitboy714 at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >          Thanx yall, I'm not lookin' to do any of this stuff or anything, I
>  > was just curious. It's pretty rare when I come across a drug I have heard
>  > nothing about before. It doesn't sound like anything I would want to do
>  > anyway. I think I'll leave the research of new drugs like these to young
>  > un's like Preston and Marc. Remember boys, start small and work
>  > up.......................Yeeeee Haaaaa.
>  >
>  >              Peace Love and Research
>  >                   Randy
>  >
>  >
>  > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:25 AM, <j0n at just-say-know.org> wrote:
>  >
>  > >
>  > > There's some evidence that dissociatives (like MK 801, PCP, ketamine, and
>  > > DXM) can cause lesions if used heavily, although this idea is still
>  > > controversial and not especially well supported. At any rate, these sorts
>  > > of drugs certainly don't cause as much brain damage as drugs like cocaine,
>  > > alcohol, or methamphetamine. In fact, dissociatives can be used to protect
>  > > the brain in situations like strokes and head injuries, because they block
>  > > what's known as the glutamate cascade, a chain reaction of brain cell
>  > > death that occurs as a result of trauma to the brain.
>  > >
>  > > MK Ultra, the "secret" government project to investigate mind control, was
>  > > mostly concerned with LSD. Although they investigated a number of drugs in
>  > > the course of the project.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > > Hi Randy,
>  > > >
>  > > > It is mentioned in Wikipedia and Erowid.  It is said to cause brain
>  > > > damage.  Sounds like a
>  > > > good thing to keep away from.  When you say MK 801 is that the same as
>  > MK
>  > > > Ultra??
>  > > >
>  > > > Best to ya,
>  > > >
>  > > >   - JIM
>  > > >
>  > > > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Warren Theriot <wleetheriot at ca.rr.com> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > > From: Warren Theriot <wleetheriot at ca.rr.com>
>  > > > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] MK 801??
>  > > > To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
>  > > > Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:32 AM
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>  > > >
>  > > > Its probably similar to PCP.
>  > > > Warren
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>  > > > On Jul 5, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Randy Faulconer wrote:
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>  > > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Randy Faulconer <bicuitboy714 at gmail.com>
>  > > > wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >          Hey yall's, I was looking around at the NIDA home page, looking
>  > > > for what they may have said about Ibogaine lately. I didn't find
>  > anything
>  > > > new, but I stumbled on to a report on MK 801. The drug name is
>  > > > Dizocilpine. Has anybody had any experience with this? It is claimed to
>  > be
>  > > > a strong hallucinitory substance, although it has some bad side effects.
>  > > > Real bad amnesia for one. It has very strong auditory hallucinations and
>  > > > lasts a long time. It is measured in Micro-grams so it is very potent
>  > and
>  > > > has the risk of OD along with it. It's actions are in the NMDA
>  > antagonist
>  > > > group of drugs.
>  > > >
>  > > >           I'm just curious about it>>??<<
>  > > >
>  > > >                     Peace Love and Ear Trips
>  > > >                           Randy
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