[Ibogaine] any adivice on issue of no REM since dosings

Warren L. Theriot wleetheriot at ca.rr.com
Fri Feb 22 05:30:11 EST 2008


Check out this article from Wired:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2007/12/sleep_deprivation
Warren

On Feb 15, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Dana Beal wrote:

> Melatonin works for a lot of people. Pot for the seizures,  
> melatonin when you wake up at 3 am and can't go back to sleep. Use  
> sublingual melatonin, put it up above yr two front teeth between  
> lip and gum after half-dissolving it under the tongue. I use three:  
> one left under the tongue for fast action, two in the "chipmunk  
> pouch" for slow release. Great for dreaming.
>
> Dana/cnw
>
> On Feb 15, 2008, at 1:39 PM, knowone knowwhere wrote:
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>> I know what I write might label me as "anti-ibogaine" but let me  
>> say to those people that the "file cabnet" issues are part of the  
>> real scientific methode and like Mash says "the plural of  
>> antidotal does not equal data".
>> I am all for Ibogaine being studied.  But I have had very serious  
>> issues with lack of REM since my numerous dosing with Ibogaine.  I  
>> have had 3 four hour sleep study EEG's and 1 three day EEG and no  
>> REM was shown during any of these studies.  Also a continuous  
>> strobe effect has been bothersome since dosing, and I now am told  
>> I have seizures, which I never had before dosing with ibogaine.
>> I can say some people in the so called Ibo community have been  
>> some of the most kind hearted people I have come across, or at  
>> least seem that way for self interest or for whatever reason.
>> My question to the group is this, has anyone done any studies on  
>> these issues and are their any suggestions for  how to get REM  
>> during Sleep again?
>> I am seriouslly considering getting back on methadone just to  
>> function, unless anyone has a better idea, even though it puts me  
>> at risk of putting myself in the same situation (no methadone  
>> prescription if arrested) as what made me try ibogaine in the  
>> first place.
>> Does anyone have any advice or point me to studies that address  
>> these issues?  Howard? Patrick? Marko? Mr. Glick?  Any suggestions  
>> would be appreciated from anyone.
>> Thank you for your help.
>> Jason
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