[Ibogaine] Ibogaine in Wodak - another transcript

Randy Faulconer bicuitboy714 at gmail.com
Thu Feb 21 09:42:45 EST 2008


          Yeay, what he said.................it sucks to have people
trust me, then I havta do stuff like help others stay away from the
proven methadone method of keeping people in check. Not that there's
anything wrong with that, I'm just sayin'..............


            Peace Love and Solidarity
               Randy

On 2/20/08, Matthew Shriver <matt at itsupport.net> wrote:
> I shore wish I hada sum them impotent lettas nexta my name sos I cood speak
> truth tellin wurds like Alex duz. I think I just channeled Randy there. I
> think this guy's pompous, self important attitude will do wonders at burying
> his BS anti-ibogaine message. He claims to be about helping addicts (I
> think anyway, it's not entirely clear) but what is clear is that he has it
> in for ibogaine for some reason. But if his attitude and demeanor come
> through as well in person as they do in these emails then he will sink his
> own ship.
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>
> Gosh I wish he had been there to protect me from taking an unsafe and
> ineffectual substance a few years ago. Then I could still be living in my
> Dad's garage, taking two different anti-depressants and still feeling
> depressed, unable to hold a job, isolating, and totally hooked on methadone,
> not to mention the occasional heroin and crack, that is if I wasn't in jail
> or prison anyway. Then I wouldn't have to worry about the solidly
> middle-class income I make or the car I own, or the wife and all the talk
> about having kids, or the nice house where I live (and stay in the master
> friggin bedroom no-less), or all the friends and family I get to spend time
> with (and not have my trustworthiness be the major concern to all involved).
> Yeah boy this sucks. Why oh why couldn't he have spread his message of
> safety and efficacy sooner and louder?
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>
> Matt
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> _____
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> From: ibogaine-bounces at mindvox.com [mailto:ibogaine-bounces at mindvox.com] On
> Behalf Of DC in AZ
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:37 PM
> To: The Ibogaine List
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Ibogaine in Wodak - another transcript
>
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> here's my transcript:
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> Dear Don,
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> The pharmaceutical industry is closely regulated for good and proper reasons
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> We know full well what the costs are of not regulating that industry
> properly
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> Rules have been developed
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> Most countries follow similar rules
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> And the way the rules work, it is understood that drugs are only approved if
> sufficient evidence exists
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> And what does and does not constitute evidence is clearly defined
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> What a tribe does in Gabon or Manhattan does not constitute evidence unless
> and until it has been reported in a respected journal
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> These facts (especially Bwiti usage history) cannot be considered as
> evidence and accordingly will only be included in my
>
> ibogaine presentation to demonstrate how out of touch ibogaine supporters
> are.
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> best wishes,
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> Alex
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> Dr. Alex Wodak,
> Director, Alcohol and Drug Service,
> St. Vincent's Hospital,
> Darlinghurst, NSW, 2010,
> AUSTRALIA
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> Telephone: (61+02) 9361 8012
> If no prompt answer, try 9361 8014
> Facsimile: (61+02) 8382 4738
> awodak at stvincents.com.au
>
> >>> "DC in AZ" <dcollier9 at cox.net> 21/02/2008 2:51:20 am >>>
>
> Hi Dr. Wodak,
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> Thanks for all you do, especially in the legalization field.
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> Are you aware that Iboga (the raw root that is refined to make ibogaine)
>
> has been in use for hundreds of years or longer in Gabon Africa without
>
> danger ? The Bwiti tribe medicine men can advise you on safety and efficacy.
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> I am interested in it, since it is used by them as a treatment for a bad
> stomach.
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> The ibogaine list server (ibogaine at mindvox.com) has additional reports
> (many)
>
> of usage of ibogaine in legal clinics around the world for relief from
> opiate withdrawal symptoms.
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> Perhaps these facts (especially Bwiti usage history) can be considered as
> data for your
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> ibogaine presentations.
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> Regards,
>
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>
> Don
>
> ****************************************************************************
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> Don Collier
> Senior Software Developer and Solutions Architect
> "Love converts hearts, and gives peace."
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