[Ibogaine] Ibogaine--surgery

Steve Coss coss at blodgettsupply.com
Thu Feb 21 04:57:14 EST 2008

Simon, Howard,

Thanks for the council. I am going to have to continue the meds after as
they are not dealing with the nerve damage , they are just trying to
stabilize my back so I can have some semblance of life for a few years.
I am curious as to why the double hit? And do you think I should do a
full dose or could I do  400/500mg reset both times? I was disappointed
that the maintenance dosing schedule did not seam to have any affect on
me. I still craved the opiates even at a 100mg a day schedule? Any ideas

Thank you for your help. Someone here said that the people on this list
are mean and vulgar, I find just the opposite is true. 





From: ibogaine-bounces at mindvox.com [mailto:ibogaine-bounces at mindvox.com]
On Behalf Of simon loxton
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:44 PM
To: The Ibogaine List
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Ibogaine--surgery


Will you need to carry on with the pain medication after surgery more or
less as you do now; or do you think you will not need to any more? I
just gathered from our previous conversations the surgery may help a bit
but it seemed like you may need pain killers even after surgery to some


----- Original Message ----
From: Howard Lotsof <hslotsof at phantom.com>
To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Thursday, 21 February, 2008 12:58:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Ibogaine--surgery

I would suggest both before and after, an an appropriate time out and  
a reasonable time prior to the surgery so you will not run into drug  
interactions during the surgery.  You can probably figure that one  
out as well a anyone else.


On Feb 20, 2008, at 9:35 AM, simon loxton wrote:

> If you are thinking of doing a reset I would consider it safer and  
> far more comfortable before the operation than after. That way you  
> will need less medication after the opp also; no?
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Steve Coss <coss at blodgettsupply.com>
> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 February, 2008 4:15:02 PM
> Subject: [Ibogaine] Ibogaine--surgery
> I have a question that I am hoping some one here could give me advice
> on. I have been on opiates for 20 plus years due to multiple botched
> operations and nerve damage done by a crazy deranged doctor. I took
> Ibogaine 2 years ago and was amazed that I did not have any withdrawal
> symptoms whatsoever. I hurt like hell but I was not dopesick.  I was
> able to reset my needed amount to get pain relief but as usual it has
> climbed back up and I am at levels I am not comfortable with. Here is
> the deal. I have tried taking 50mgs a day or every other day to see  
> if I
> could reduce my opiate intake but for some reason it just does not
> appear to work  for me that way. I tried 500mgs and I was under the
> tripping threshold but I spent a pleasant afternoon curled up in bed
> vegging out. Confession is good for the soul they say so here goes!
> I am due to go in for some major spine surgery. They will in my  
> doctors
> words "reconstruct" my spine from L3 to S1. I actually do not mind the
> short term pain of recovering from a operation as each day/week/month
> gets better.  I do not do well lowering my intake of narcotics.  
> Although
> I have a medical need for this stuff I also have an addiction problem
> and do a lousy job of how many I take in one day. I am trying to  
> decide
> if I should do a complete reset before I have the operation or after?
> That's the question. There are reasons I suppose for either one but I
> would just like to know what others on here might think.
> Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Steve
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