[Ibogaine] suboxone

simon loxton simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk
Tue Dec 30 10:28:56 EST 2008


Mike;

The only way I would think of dealing with the situation would be to switch to a more common opiate which would be easier to get off. ??? Other than that you are looking at a hard road. Doctors huh? If they are not gving you too little they are giving you the wrong damn drug :)




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From: michael langshaw <mlangshaw67 at yahoo.com>
To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 30 December, 2008 6:57:45
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] suboxone


I'm just so angry with this shrink. The only question he asked me regarding my opiate history was how much I was currently using. For the first time in my life I answered him honestly. At the time of the question I was using between 1-2 grams daily. I had just got to this point and had only been using this much for the past 4 days or so. Mind you that I haven't been strung out since 4/04 on methadone. A 90 day jail stint got me off of that and I never looked back...at least not to opiates. Just recently I was combating some depression
and decided to take a vike here a perk there and before you know it the story is told, which actually surprised me because I have use opiates for legit reasons in the past and never graduated back to shooting dope. Now this quack not knowing anything about me or my past pumps me up to 24 mgs of suboxone right off the rip. I have no one else to blame but myself.(Though he should have told me) If I had researched this drug the way I do everything else I would not be in this situation. I had know idea this quack was setting me up for maintenance. Being as naive as i was I thought I was going in there for a 1-2 week out patient detox. After googeling suboxone withdrawal, which I should have done in the first place I find out that this shit is no joke and that I'm temporarily FUCKED. So this is why I ask for any advise, suggestions, or personal experiences. Thanks and I hope everyone has wonderful, clean, joyous, happy, and free New Year.
 
Mike

--- On Mon, 12/29/08, junkboy <junkboy64 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: junkboy <junkboy64 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] suboxone
To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 1:32 PM


in my opinion sub is super hard to get off of... its right up there with methadone..... nasty.... i think its a horrible drug, but thats my opinion... ive had other peopel tell me it helped them... so i couldnt rightly say..
lee


 
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 5:32 AM, michael langshaw <mlangshaw67 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Simon,
I just dont know anything about subjoin and I was hoping on some input on some peoples personal use with it and how hard it was to get off of it successfully without the use of ibogain. Maybe how severe the w/d symptoms were and how long they lasted.. That's the kind of impute I'm looking for so, any will be appreciated.
Thanks, Mike

--- On Sat, 12/27/08, simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] suboxone
To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Date: Saturday, December 27, 2008, 11:08 AM 



Feedback on what Mike?




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 From: michael langshaw <mlangshaw67 at yahoo.com>
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Sent: Friday, 26 December, 2008 20:45:39
Subject: [Ibogaine] suboxone


After over 4 years of being off of heroin, I ended back on it for a short time. (45 days). Because of limited options I am now taking 24mgs of suboxone a day. Though I believe that I know more than the average bear about opiates, suboxone is one particular drug I am completely unfamiliar with. I'm sure that many from the list have used this avenue and I'm open to any and all feedback. Thanks!!!
Mike 


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