[Ibogaine] first time posting/detox/raw foods

Randy Faulconer bicuitboy714 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 27 09:58:46 EST 2008


            Welcome welcome welcome Dawn. It's good to see a fresh new
face..............I mean post on here. The raw food thing has been
tossed around a few times but every time I see it again I think more
and more it's a good idea. Now if I just had some f(*&^%$# teeth. Just
kidding, it's good to see you. Please post more and don't let some
door knob run you off.

       Peace Love and Wonderment
              Randy
         BiscuitBoy Blues

On 12/26/08, Dawn Woodward <lebateleurmarette at yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is my first time posting, I've not gotten a chance to try ibogaine
> since I am broke and on probation in AZ.  I know, excuses, excuses.  BUT, my
> big reason for posting is this: I am having a pretty amazing time so far on
> a raw foods diet.  You can look up Shazzie, David Wolfe, and Juliano on
> google and youtube and get detailed information on what it is and how to do
> it.  I am convinced that we evolved as wild creatures, and a return to
> eating wild and raw is quantitively superior to eating cooked food.  OK, so
> all these folks went from fat depressed acne covered slobs to beautiful,
> lean individuals.  My little subversive theory is this- that it relates
> to addiction as well.  All of these beautiful drugs are alkaloids, and
> besides the inherent yummy psychotropic qualities they posses, they are also
> shocking the body  into alkalinity.  People that eat cooked food have an
> acidic body, causing all sort of denigration to the human system (we
>  are supposed to be base, neutral, pH 7).  Ok, so I am thinking that cooked
> food is a cause for depression and the addictive cycle!!!  Try a raw diet
> for three weeks, or one day, whatever... and tell me your thoughts.  I just
> wanted to share in this forum, in case I am onto something, and those of us
> that are unable to do ibogaine therapy right now could still be seriously
> helping ourselves, by eating raw.   I welcome and all feedback on this.
> Also, many raw foodists liken it to the Matrix, and I know that everyone is
> in this forum because they took the red pill.  Cleuce or not, that is
> powerful symbology.  Ive got no clue how to spell that word.  Oh well ;)
> Dawn
>
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>    1. Transition (Patrick K. Kroupa)
>    2. Re: Transition (Krista Vaughan)
>    3. Re: Transition (junkboy)
>    4. Re: Transition (Dave Brockman)
>    5. dopamine 4 neuron (simon loxton)
>    6. Re: dopamine 4 neuron (Matt Shriver)
>    7. Re: Transition (tink)
>    8. Re: Transition (Matthew Zielinski)
>    9. suboxone (michael langshaw)
>   10. Re: suboxone (junkboy)
>   11. test (Howard Lotsof)
>   12. Re: test (junkboy)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:59:51 -0500
> From: "Patrick K. Kroupa" <digital at mindvox.com>
> Subject: [Ibogaine] Transition
> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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> Everything has moved to yet another bigger faster server, if you
> experience any problems, please do not hesitate to call your dealer,
> rent a shrink, or go buy a gun.  We don't have any customers, hence
> there is no customer service, and I personally really don't care what
> your dumb computer problems are.  Uhm, I meant to say: send me email,
> lemme know, and enclose the URL or describe the issue, you won't get a
> response but we will look at it, there are some permission issues
> remaining in this next iteration of paranoid wonderland.  To
> paraphrase, "We're very sorry, you can't do that.  All useful
> information has been suppressed, because the system is tweaking out
> and even more paranoid than usual, please send detailed information to
> technical support, describing your situation."
>
> For future reference, if the system is ever offline for 24-48 hours,
> short updates will show up on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mindvox
>
> We will probably also add another web server that just posts updates,
> even when the central servers that handle www requests and mailman,
> are offline for a minute or 4320.
>
> Happy Christmas & Merry New Year and all that.  Please keep in mind it
> is Christmas, and whatever you write won't be forwarded or dealt with,
> by anybody in particular, for a day or two, we're doing some of that
> having a life thing I've heard so much about.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:20:09 -0500
> From: "Krista Vaughan" <krista.vaughan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Transition
> To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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> Hi Patrick and thanks, missed all of you the last few days. Merry
> Christmas and love!
>
> KV
>
>
>
> On 12/25/08, Patrick K. Kroupa <digital at mindvox.com> wrote:
>> Everything has moved to yet another bigger faster server, if you
>> experience any problems, please do not hesitate to call your dealer,
>> rent a shrink, or go buy a gun.  We don't have any customers, hence
>> there is no customer service, and I personally really don't care what
>> your dumb computer problems are.  Uhm, I meant to say: send me email,
>> lemme know, and enclose the URL or describe the issue, you won't get a
>> response but we will look at it, there are some permission issues
>> remaining in this next iteration of paranoid wonderland.  To
>> paraphrase, "We're very sorry, you can't do that.  All useful
>> information has been suppressed, because the system is tweaking out
>> and even more paranoid than usual, please send detailed information to
>> technical support, describing your situation."
>>
>> For future reference, if the system is ever offline for 24-48 hours,
>> short updates will show up on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mindvox
>>
>> We will probably also add another web server that just posts updates,
>> even when the central servers that handle www requests and mailman,
>> are offline for a minute or 4320.
>>
>> Happy Christmas & Merry New Year and all that.  Please keep in mind it
>> is Christmas, and whatever you write won't be forwarded or dealt with,
>> by anybody in particular, for a day or two, we're doing some of that
>> having a life thing I've heard so much about.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:43:07 -0700
> From: junkboy <junkboy64 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Transition
> To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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> the quote on twitter under the post is from h.p. lovecraft if i remember
> right....
> just nerd talk...
> lee
>
> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Krista Vaughan
> <krista.vaughan at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Patrick and thanks, missed all of you the last few days. Merry
>> Christmas and love!
>>
>> KV
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/25/08, Patrick K. Kroupa <digital at mindvox.com> wrote:
>> > Everything has moved to yet another bigger faster server, if you
>> > experience any problems, please do not hesitate to call your dealer,
>> > rent a shrink, or go buy a gun.  We don't have any customers,
> hence
>> > there is no customer service, and I personally really don't care
> what
>> > your dumb computer problems are.  Uhm, I meant to say: send me email,
>> > lemme know, and enclose the URL or describe the issue, you won't
> get a
>> > response but we will look at it, there are some permission issues
>> > remaining in this next iteration of paranoid wonderland.  To
>> > paraphrase, "We're very sorry, you can't do that.  All
> useful
>> > information has been suppressed, because the system is tweaking out
>> > and even more paranoid than usual, please send detailed information
> to
>> > technical support, describing your situation."
>> >
>> > For future reference, if the system is ever offline for 24-48 hours,
>> > short updates will show up on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mindvox
>> >
>> > We will probably also add another web server that just posts updates,
>> > even when the central servers that handle www requests and mailman,
>> > are offline for a minute or 4320.
>> >
>> > Happy Christmas & Merry New Year and all that.  Please keep in
> mind it
>> > is Christmas, and whatever you write won't be forwarded or dealt
> with,
>> > by anybody in particular, for a day or two, we're doing some of
> that
>> > having a life thing I've heard so much about.
>> >
>> > Patrick
>> >
>> >
>> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 02:31:52 -0500
> From: "Dave Brockman" <davebroc at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Transition
> To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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> Kick ass. Lovecraft is awesome.
> Kindof do ponder that sometimes, all of you been running mindvox
> forever, if your selling ads or making bank it makes some sense, what
> your doing here kind of qualifies as mental illness instead, right on
> :-)
>
> -broc
>
> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 11:43 PM, junkboy <junkboy64 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> the quote on twitter under the post is from h.p. lovecraft if i remember
>> right....
>> just nerd talk...
>> lee
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Krista Vaughan
> <krista.vaughan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Patrick and thanks, missed all of you the last few days. Merry
>>> Christmas and love!
>>>
>>> KV
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/25/08, Patrick K. Kroupa <digital at mindvox.com> wrote:
>>> > Everything has moved to yet another bigger faster server, if you
>>> > experience any problems, please do not hesitate to call your
> dealer,
>>> > rent a shrink, or go buy a gun.  We don't have any customers,
> hence
>>> > there is no customer service, and I personally really don't
> care what
>>> > your dumb computer problems are.  Uhm, I meant to say: send me
> email,
>>> > lemme know, and enclose the URL or describe the issue, you
> won't get a
>>> > response but we will look at it, there are some permission issues
>>> > remaining in this next iteration of paranoid wonderland.  To
>>> > paraphrase, "We're very sorry, you can't do that.
> All useful
>>> > information has been suppressed, because the system is tweaking
> out
>>> > and even more paranoid than usual, please send detailed
> information to
>>> > technical support, describing your situation."
>>> >
>>> > For future reference, if the system is ever offline for 24-48
> hours,
>>> > short updates will show up on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mindvox
>>> >
>>> > We will probably also add another web server that just posts
> updates,
>>> > even when the central servers that handle www requests and
> mailman,
>>> > are offline for a minute or 4320.
>>> >
>>> > Happy Christmas & Merry New Year and all that.  Please keep
> in mind it
>>> > is Christmas, and whatever you write won't be forwarded or
> dealt with,
>>> > by anybody in particular, for a day or two, we're doing some
> of that
>>> > having a life thing I've heard so much about.
>>> >
>>> > Patrick
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:02:52 +0000 (GMT)
> From: simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: [Ibogaine] dopamine 4 neuron
> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
> Message-ID: <878103.1682.qm at web28610.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
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> I was watching a documentary on the human genome. The researcher had based
> his
> research in Iceland for obvious reasons. He found among other things that an
> extended dopamine 4 neuron had an influence in thrill seeking or extreme
> sports.
> This was interesting and I wondered if the same or some thing similar could
> be
> suggested in the majority of people with addiction?
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:41:47 -0700
> From: Matt Shriver <ibogamail at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] dopamine 4 neuron
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> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:43:12 -0500
> From: tink <tinkerbell.sarah at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Transition
> To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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> Merry happy joy joy to you, Patrick, and hope you're well. Sorry I
> missed you in Miami, but I didn't think that you'd want to come visit
> at the Women's Detention Center (though it is fabulously close to
> Mash's). Hi to L and love to Deb C, as well as big hugs and such to
> you
> tink
> I'll be there in May, if you're not doing any thing
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Patrick K. Kroupa <digital at mindvox.com>
> wrote:
>> Everything has moved to yet another bigger faster server, if you
> experience
>> any problems, please do not hesitate to call your dealer, rent a shrink,
> or
>> go buy a gun.  We don't have any customers, hence there is no customer
>> service, and I personally really don't care what your dumb computer
> problems
>> are.  Uhm, I meant to say: send me email, lemme know, and enclose the URL
> or
>> describe the issue, you won't get a response but we will look at it,
> there
>> are some permission issues remaining in this next iteration of paranoid
>> wonderland.  To paraphrase, "We're very sorry, you can't do
> that.  All
>> useful information has been suppressed, because the system is tweaking out
>> and even more paranoid than usual, please send detailed information to
>> technical support, describing your situation."
>>
>> For future reference, if the system is ever offline for 24-48 hours, short
>> updates will show up on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mindvox
>>
>> We will probably also add another web server that just posts updates, even
>> when the central servers that handle www requests and mailman, are offline
>> for a minute or 4320.
>>
>> Happy Christmas & Merry New Year and all that.  Please keep in mind it
> is
>> Christmas, and whatever you write won't be forwarded or dealt with, by
>> anybody in particular, for a day or two, we're doing some of that
> having a
>> life thing I've heard so much about.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:59:40 -0800
> From: "Matthew Zielinski" <masterhermesbathory at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Transition
> To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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> No!! you are banned from Miami!!  no visitation of boys in detention centres
> who will get you in trouble!!! :-)
>
>
>
> On 12/26/08, tink <tinkerbell.sarah at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Merry happy joy joy to you, Patrick, and hope you're well. Sorry I
>> missed you in Miami, but I didn't think that you'd want to come
> visit
>> at the Women's Detention Center (though it is fabulously close to
>> Mash's). Hi to L and love to Deb C, as well as big hugs and such to
>> you
>> tink
>> I'll be there in May, if you're not doing any thing
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Patrick K. Kroupa
> <digital at mindvox.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Everything has moved to yet another bigger faster server, if you
>> experience
>> > any problems, please do not hesitate to call your dealer, rent a
> shrink,
>> or
>> > go buy a gun.  We don't have any customers, hence there is no
> customer
>> > service, and I personally really don't care what your dumb
> computer
>> problems
>> > are.  Uhm, I meant to say: send me email, lemme know, and enclose the
> URL
>> or
>> > describe the issue, you won't get a response but we will look at
> it,
>> there
>> > are some permission issues remaining in this next iteration of
> paranoid
>> > wonderland.  To paraphrase, "We're very sorry, you can't
> do that.  All
>> > useful information has been suppressed, because the system is
> tweaking
>> out
>> > and even more paranoid than usual, please send detailed information
> to
>> > technical support, describing your situation."
>> >
>> > For future reference, if the system is ever offline for 24-48 hours,
>> short
>> > updates will show up on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mindvox
>> >
>> > We will probably also add another web server that just posts updates,
>> even
>> > when the central servers that handle www requests and mailman, are
>> offline
>> > for a minute or 4320.
>> >
>> > Happy Christmas & Merry New Year and all that.  Please keep in
> mind it is
>> > Christmas, and whatever you write won't be forwarded or dealt
> with, by
>> > anybody in particular, for a day or two, we're doing some of that
> having
>> a
>> > life thing I've heard so much about.
>> >
>> > Patrick
>> >
>> >
>> >
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:45:39 -0800 (PST)
> From: michael langshaw <mlangshaw67 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Ibogaine] suboxone
> To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
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> After over 4 years of being off of heroin, I ended back on it for a short
> time.
> (45 days). Because of limited options I am now taking 24mgs of suboxone a
> day.
> Though?I believe that I know more than the average bear about
> opiates,?suboxone
> is one particular drug I am completely unfamiliar with. I'm sure that many
> from the list have used this avenue and I'm open to any and all feedback.
> Thanks!!!
> Mike
>
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> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:12:07 -0700
> From: junkboy <junkboy64 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] suboxone
> To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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> I HAD a buddy who used it in a two week period to get off of oxycontin, but
> i used it to get high and it was really, really hard for me to get fully
> off.. i tapered down from 8 mg a day to about 2mg a day, but couldnt get off
> that last two millagrams... i used ibogaine to get off of it but it was
> really hard..... i dont like it... but i have heard good things about it...
> i personally thing its harder to get off of than heroin, oxy;s or anything
> ive done other than methadone, but i havent done much of that, and just
> switched over to heroin and came off that way...
> my 2 cents...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 11:45 AM, michael langshaw
> <mlangshaw67 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>>   After over 4 years of being off of heroin, I ended back on it for a
>> short time. (45 days). Because of limited options I am now taking 24mgs of
>> suboxone a day. Though I believe that I know more than the average bear
>> about opiates, suboxone is one particular drug I am completely unfamiliar
>> with. I'm sure that many from the list have used this avenue and
> I'm open to
>> any and all feedback. Thanks!!!
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:40:43 -0500
> From: Howard Lotsof <hslotsof at phantom.com>
> Subject: [Ibogaine] test
> To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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> is list functioning?
>
> Howard
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:20:13 -0700
> From: junkboy <junkboy64 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] test
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> Ive been getting some emails lately...
> lee
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> On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Howard Lotsof <hslotsof at phantom.com>
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>> is list functioning?
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>> Howard
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