[Ibogaine] first time posting/detox/raw foods

Dawn Woodward lebateleurmarette at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 26 17:12:08 EST 2008


This is my first time posting, I've not gotten a chance to try ibogaine since I am broke and on probation in AZ.  I know, excuses, excuses.  BUT, my big reason for posting is this: I am having a pretty amazing time so far on a raw foods diet.  You can look up Shazzie, David Wolfe, and Juliano on google and youtube and get detailed information on what it is and how to do it.  I am convinced that we evolved as wild creatures, and a return to eating wild and raw is quantitively superior to eating cooked food.  OK, so all these folks went from fat depressed acne covered slobs to beautiful, lean individuals.  My little subversive theory is this- that it relates to addiction as well.  All of these beautiful drugs are alkaloids, and besides the inherent yummy psychotropic qualities they posses, they are also shocking the body  into alkalinity.  People that eat cooked food have an acidic body, causing all sort of denigration to the human system (we
 are supposed to be base, neutral, pH 7).  Ok, so I am thinking that cooked food is a cause for depression and the addictive cycle!!!  Try a raw diet for three weeks, or one day, whatever... and tell me your thoughts.  I just wanted to share in this forum, in case I am onto something, and those of us that are unable to do ibogaine therapy right now could still be seriously helping ourselves, by eating raw.   I welcome and all feedback on this.  Also, many raw foodists liken it to the Matrix, and I know that everyone is in this forum because they took the red pill.  Cleuce or not, that is powerful symbology.  Ive got no clue how to spell that word.  Oh well ;)
Dawn

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   1. Transition (Patrick K. Kroupa)
   2. Re: Transition (Krista Vaughan)
   3. Re: Transition (junkboy)
   4. Re: Transition (Dave Brockman)
   5. dopamine 4 neuron (simon loxton)
   6. Re: dopamine 4 neuron (Matt Shriver)
   7. Re: Transition (tink)
   8. Re: Transition (Matthew Zielinski)
   9. suboxone (michael langshaw)
  10. Re: suboxone (junkboy)
  11. test (Howard Lotsof)
  12. Re: test (junkboy)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 15:59:51 -0500
From: "Patrick K. Kroupa" <digital at mindvox.com>
Subject: [Ibogaine] Transition
To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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Everything has moved to yet another bigger faster server, if you  
experience any problems, please do not hesitate to call your dealer,  
rent a shrink, or go buy a gun.  We don't have any customers, hence  
there is no customer service, and I personally really don't care what  
your dumb computer problems are.  Uhm, I meant to say: send me email,  
lemme know, and enclose the URL or describe the issue, you won't get a  
response but we will look at it, there are some permission issues  
remaining in this next iteration of paranoid wonderland.  To  
paraphrase, "We're very sorry, you can't do that.  All useful  
information has been suppressed, because the system is tweaking out  
and even more paranoid than usual, please send detailed information to  
technical support, describing your situation."

For future reference, if the system is ever offline for 24-48 hours,  
short updates will show up on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mindvox

We will probably also add another web server that just posts updates,  
even when the central servers that handle www requests and mailman,  
are offline for a minute or 4320.

Happy Christmas & Merry New Year and all that.  Please keep in mind it  
is Christmas, and whatever you write won't be forwarded or dealt with,  
by anybody in particular, for a day or two, we're doing some of that  
having a life thing I've heard so much about.

Patrick




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 18:20:09 -0500
From: "Krista Vaughan" <krista.vaughan at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Transition
To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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Hi Patrick and thanks, missed all of you the last few days. Merry
Christmas and love!

KV



On 12/25/08, Patrick K. Kroupa <digital at mindvox.com> wrote:
> Everything has moved to yet another bigger faster server, if you
> experience any problems, please do not hesitate to call your dealer,
> rent a shrink, or go buy a gun.  We don't have any customers, hence
> there is no customer service, and I personally really don't care what
> your dumb computer problems are.  Uhm, I meant to say: send me email,
> lemme know, and enclose the URL or describe the issue, you won't get a
> response but we will look at it, there are some permission issues
> remaining in this next iteration of paranoid wonderland.  To
> paraphrase, "We're very sorry, you can't do that.  All useful
> information has been suppressed, because the system is tweaking out
> and even more paranoid than usual, please send detailed information to
> technical support, describing your situation."
>
> For future reference, if the system is ever offline for 24-48 hours,
> short updates will show up on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mindvox
>
> We will probably also add another web server that just posts updates,
> even when the central servers that handle www requests and mailman,
> are offline for a minute or 4320.
>
> Happy Christmas & Merry New Year and all that.  Please keep in mind it
> is Christmas, and whatever you write won't be forwarded or dealt with,
> by anybody in particular, for a day or two, we're doing some of that
> having a life thing I've heard so much about.
>
> Patrick
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:43:07 -0700
From: junkboy <junkboy64 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Transition
To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Message-ID:
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the quote on twitter under the post is from h.p. lovecraft if i remember
right....
just nerd talk...
lee

On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Krista Vaughan
<krista.vaughan at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Patrick and thanks, missed all of you the last few days. Merry
> Christmas and love!
>
> KV
>
>
>
> On 12/25/08, Patrick K. Kroupa <digital at mindvox.com> wrote:
> > Everything has moved to yet another bigger faster server, if you
> > experience any problems, please do not hesitate to call your dealer,
> > rent a shrink, or go buy a gun.  We don't have any customers,
hence
> > there is no customer service, and I personally really don't care
what
> > your dumb computer problems are.  Uhm, I meant to say: send me email,
> > lemme know, and enclose the URL or describe the issue, you won't
get a
> > response but we will look at it, there are some permission issues
> > remaining in this next iteration of paranoid wonderland.  To
> > paraphrase, "We're very sorry, you can't do that.  All
useful
> > information has been suppressed, because the system is tweaking out
> > and even more paranoid than usual, please send detailed information
to
> > technical support, describing your situation."
> >
> > For future reference, if the system is ever offline for 24-48 hours,
> > short updates will show up on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mindvox
> >
> > We will probably also add another web server that just posts updates,
> > even when the central servers that handle www requests and mailman,
> > are offline for a minute or 4320.
> >
> > Happy Christmas & Merry New Year and all that.  Please keep in
mind it
> > is Christmas, and whatever you write won't be forwarded or dealt
with,
> > by anybody in particular, for a day or two, we're doing some of
that
> > having a life thing I've heard so much about.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 02:31:52 -0500
From: "Dave Brockman" <davebroc at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Transition
To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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Kick ass. Lovecraft is awesome.
Kindof do ponder that sometimes, all of you been running mindvox
forever, if your selling ads or making bank it makes some sense, what
your doing here kind of qualifies as mental illness instead, right on
:-)

-broc

On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 11:43 PM, junkboy <junkboy64 at gmail.com> wrote:
> the quote on twitter under the post is from h.p. lovecraft if i remember
> right....
> just nerd talk...
> lee
>
> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Krista Vaughan
<krista.vaughan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Patrick and thanks, missed all of you the last few days. Merry
>> Christmas and love!
>>
>> KV
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/25/08, Patrick K. Kroupa <digital at mindvox.com> wrote:
>> > Everything has moved to yet another bigger faster server, if you
>> > experience any problems, please do not hesitate to call your
dealer,
>> > rent a shrink, or go buy a gun.  We don't have any customers,
hence
>> > there is no customer service, and I personally really don't
care what
>> > your dumb computer problems are.  Uhm, I meant to say: send me
email,
>> > lemme know, and enclose the URL or describe the issue, you
won't get a
>> > response but we will look at it, there are some permission issues
>> > remaining in this next iteration of paranoid wonderland.  To
>> > paraphrase, "We're very sorry, you can't do that. 
All useful
>> > information has been suppressed, because the system is tweaking
out
>> > and even more paranoid than usual, please send detailed
information to
>> > technical support, describing your situation."
>> >
>> > For future reference, if the system is ever offline for 24-48
hours,
>> > short updates will show up on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mindvox
>> >
>> > We will probably also add another web server that just posts
updates,
>> > even when the central servers that handle www requests and
mailman,
>> > are offline for a minute or 4320.
>> >
>> > Happy Christmas & Merry New Year and all that.  Please keep
in mind it
>> > is Christmas, and whatever you write won't be forwarded or
dealt with,
>> > by anybody in particular, for a day or two, we're doing some
of that
>> > having a life thing I've heard so much about.
>> >
>> > Patrick
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:02:52 +0000 (GMT)
From: simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [Ibogaine] dopamine 4 neuron
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Message-ID: <878103.1682.qm at web28610.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I was watching a documentary on the human genome. The researcher had based his
research in Iceland for obvious reasons. He found among other things that an
extended dopamine 4 neuron had an influence in thrill seeking or extreme sports.
This was interesting and I wondered if the same or some thing similar could be
suggested in the majority of people with addiction?



      
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:41:47 -0700
From: Matt Shriver <ibogamail at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] dopamine 4 neuron
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:43:12 -0500
From: tink <tinkerbell.sarah at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Transition
To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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Merry happy joy joy to you, Patrick, and hope you're well. Sorry I
missed you in Miami, but I didn't think that you'd want to come visit
at the Women's Detention Center (though it is fabulously close to
Mash's). Hi to L and love to Deb C, as well as big hugs and such to
you
tink
I'll be there in May, if you're not doing any thing


On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Patrick K. Kroupa <digital at mindvox.com>
wrote:
> Everything has moved to yet another bigger faster server, if you
experience
> any problems, please do not hesitate to call your dealer, rent a shrink,
or
> go buy a gun.  We don't have any customers, hence there is no customer
> service, and I personally really don't care what your dumb computer
problems
> are.  Uhm, I meant to say: send me email, lemme know, and enclose the URL
or
> describe the issue, you won't get a response but we will look at it,
there
> are some permission issues remaining in this next iteration of paranoid
> wonderland.  To paraphrase, "We're very sorry, you can't do
that.  All
> useful information has been suppressed, because the system is tweaking out
> and even more paranoid than usual, please send detailed information to
> technical support, describing your situation."
>
> For future reference, if the system is ever offline for 24-48 hours, short
> updates will show up on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mindvox
>
> We will probably also add another web server that just posts updates, even
> when the central servers that handle www requests and mailman, are offline
> for a minute or 4320.
>
> Happy Christmas & Merry New Year and all that.  Please keep in mind it
is
> Christmas, and whatever you write won't be forwarded or dealt with, by
> anybody in particular, for a day or two, we're doing some of that
having a
> life thing I've heard so much about.
>
> Patrick
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:59:40 -0800
From: "Matthew Zielinski" <masterhermesbathory at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] Transition
To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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	<7498a6cc0812260859r96dcdc7t6f25dc8292bf5f88 at mail.gmail.com>
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No!! you are banned from Miami!!  no visitation of boys in detention centres
who will get you in trouble!!! :-)



On 12/26/08, tink <tinkerbell.sarah at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Merry happy joy joy to you, Patrick, and hope you're well. Sorry I
> missed you in Miami, but I didn't think that you'd want to come
visit
> at the Women's Detention Center (though it is fabulously close to
> Mash's). Hi to L and love to Deb C, as well as big hugs and such to
> you
> tink
> I'll be there in May, if you're not doing any thing
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Patrick K. Kroupa
<digital at mindvox.com>
> wrote:
> > Everything has moved to yet another bigger faster server, if you
> experience
> > any problems, please do not hesitate to call your dealer, rent a
shrink,
> or
> > go buy a gun.  We don't have any customers, hence there is no
customer
> > service, and I personally really don't care what your dumb
computer
> problems
> > are.  Uhm, I meant to say: send me email, lemme know, and enclose the
URL
> or
> > describe the issue, you won't get a response but we will look at
it,
> there
> > are some permission issues remaining in this next iteration of
paranoid
> > wonderland.  To paraphrase, "We're very sorry, you can't
do that.  All
> > useful information has been suppressed, because the system is
tweaking
> out
> > and even more paranoid than usual, please send detailed information
to
> > technical support, describing your situation."
> >
> > For future reference, if the system is ever offline for 24-48 hours,
> short
> > updates will show up on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mindvox
> >
> > We will probably also add another web server that just posts updates,
> even
> > when the central servers that handle www requests and mailman, are
> offline
> > for a minute or 4320.
> >
> > Happy Christmas & Merry New Year and all that.  Please keep in
mind it is
> > Christmas, and whatever you write won't be forwarded or dealt
with, by
> > anybody in particular, for a day or two, we're doing some of that
having
> a
> > life thing I've heard so much about.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:45:39 -0800 (PST)
From: michael langshaw <mlangshaw67 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Ibogaine] suboxone
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
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After over 4 years of being off of heroin, I ended back on it for a short time.
(45 days). Because of limited options I am now taking 24mgs of suboxone a day.
Though?I believe that I know more than the average bear about opiates,?suboxone
is one particular drug I am completely unfamiliar with. I'm sure that many
from the list have used this avenue and I'm open to any and all feedback.
Thanks!!!
Mike


      
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 12:12:07 -0700
From: junkboy <junkboy64 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] suboxone
To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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I HAD a buddy who used it in a two week period to get off of oxycontin, but
i used it to get high and it was really, really hard for me to get fully
off.. i tapered down from 8 mg a day to about 2mg a day, but couldnt get off
that last two millagrams... i used ibogaine to get off of it but it was
really hard..... i dont like it... but i have heard good things about it...
i personally thing its harder to get off of than heroin, oxy;s or anything
ive done other than methadone, but i havent done much of that, and just
switched over to heroin and came off that way...
my 2 cents...



On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 11:45 AM, michael langshaw
<mlangshaw67 at yahoo.com>wrote:

>   After over 4 years of being off of heroin, I ended back on it for a
> short time. (45 days). Because of limited options I am now taking 24mgs of
> suboxone a day. Though I believe that I know more than the average bear
> about opiates, suboxone is one particular drug I am completely unfamiliar
> with. I'm sure that many from the list have used this avenue and
I'm open to
> any and all feedback. Thanks!!!
> Mike
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:40:43 -0500
From: Howard Lotsof <hslotsof at phantom.com>
Subject: [Ibogaine] test
To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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is list functioning?

Howard


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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:20:13 -0700
From: junkboy <junkboy64 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] test
To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Ive been getting some emails lately...
lee



On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Howard Lotsof <hslotsof at phantom.com>
wrote:

> is list functioning?
>
> Howard
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