[Ibogaine] suboxone

simon loxton simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk
Sat Sep 22 16:04:50 EDT 2007

Here we are, first site I checked "She's been taking Suboxone, which has some buprenorphine in it, but unfortunately the naloxone component is notorious for making depression much worse","
 Suboxone causes depression and mood swings. Its very hard to be happy while taking suboxone, especially if you are taking high doses.","i would highly suggest anyone on suboxone to switch to subutex. Dont let your doctor tell you its the same thing. It may have the same thing, but its totally different";"These meds help with the withdrawals but the pain is just waiting. I stopped suboxone from 6mg a day and on the fourth day I wanted to kill myself. Who ever says suboxone is easy to come off is a better person then I am. It sucks. Not saying that subutex is much easier to come off of,but at least it allows you to live a normal life."
I found these quite easily so I am sure with a bit of surfing you should be able to dig up allot of information.

----- Original Message ----
From: Adam Nodelman <jonathanswiftboat at yahoo.com>
To: The Ibogaine List <ibogaine at mindvox.com>
Sent: Saturday, 22 September, 2007 6:03:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] suboxone

REALLY,WOW. if someone is prone to depression then maybe this may bring it out.can you expand on what your friends said?im worried about my friend,and her doctor is very cynical and thinks my friend just wants to get high.but this is bigger then just wanting klonapins or something.can i get in touch with your friends?anyone else know of any corelation between suboxone and depression.?dr ken,where are you?   adam

simon loxton <simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
I have heard about people becoming suicidal and heavily depressed. This is just from people that were on it themselves. I don't know how many were prone depression but is is a factor for sure.

----- Original Message ----
From: Adam Nodelman <jonathanswiftboat at yahoo.com>
To: ibogaine at mindvox.com
Sent: Saturday, 22 September, 2007 4:15:25 PM
Subject: [Ibogaine] suboxone

changing the subject,i have a question if any one can help me out;it concernes suboxone(bupe+naltrexone)someone near and dear to me has been on this medication with good results for several months now.said person got on suboxone because of frequent relaspes,despite several iboga treatments over the years.with suboxone the relaspes have stopped,said person is following the instructions,not doing the 48 hr thing in order to use,so that much is going well.however,my friend has had depression and anxiety issues in the past which have come back hard .im wondering if anyone knows anything about depression,and suboxone.ive heard strange tales about mental things happening after getting off suboxone,but what about durring treatment?  adam

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