[Ibogaine] The War on Consciousness , Marc Emery
jmcreature at telus.net
Fri Sep 21 19:41:42 EDT 2007
I'm glad to hear that the Iboga Therapy house is hard to get into.
Seeing Marc discussing the price of Ibogaine got me a bit frightened.
This was a terrifying experience and I simply hope that others don't have to go through the same thing.
Someone posted this:
"Amongst his other projects, Marc Emery is the founder of Iboga Therapy House, and has devoted a tremendous amount of his time,
effort and cashflow, to helping drug-dependent individuals obtain free access to ibogaine."
and I guess I had to comment on the time and effort I witnessed Marc put into the access to Ibogaine.
Go ahead and support Marc Emery in his fight against extradition.. I am just truly afraid of him and/or his friends providing botched treatment.
at http://pot.tv/archive/shows/pottvshowse-1977.html you can watch an interview where the interviewer ask Marc "Doesn't that worry you that someone could die?"
and he answers "Oh,no! No! Cause these people might die anyway, they are hardcore drug users. I mean many of them are at Death's doorsteps when I meet them"
and he does seem so unconcerned.He is all about the movement which is great. but has no consideration for the individual which sucks.
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From: Dana Beal
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] The War on Consciousness , Marc Emery
On Sep 21, 2007, at 5:46 PM, John Schwarzkopf wrote:
I was with John, we live together and the treatment took place in our home.
That was a few years ago.. I had unsubscribed to the list since then but now I am back on it..
and seeing the posts about Marc Emery just made me want to say .. there's got to be a better option than trust Marc Emery's people.
Most people on this List are aware that Iboga Therapy House is too difficult to get into, and maybe unduelly entangled with their MAPS sponsored longitudinal trial, but I don't see what your problems with Linnette have to do with either our supporting Marc to keep him from winding up in a US prison for the rest of his life, OR the price of ibogaine.
At the beginning of this thread, Marc correctly focused on the price of ibogaine. As this treatment takes off, the junkies of the world are gonna drain off ALL HCl, so there will be no more "psycho-spiritual" treatments for psychedelic tourists UNLESS you go to Gabon. This is what I told NIDA in the early '90's, when I predicted Ibogaine would become too expensive to be a street drug-- so there was no point in keeping it illegal.
The process Randy is referring to involves the synthesis of ibogaine or 18 MC from voacangine-- which IS cheap and plentiful. We're working on that, among others. GMP grade ibogaine will be available for research and treatment purposes when this synthesis is adapted for mass production.
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