[Ibogaine] The War on Consciousness , Marc Emery

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Fri Sep 21 18:37:42 EDT 2007


There are, anywhere else really since Marc closed it down in 2005 I
think after his big arrest. It has been opened again by some of the
peeps who used to work for Marc but its no longer for free, it's a pay
clinic now.

.:vector:.

--- John Schwarzkopf <jmcreature at telus.net> wrote:

> I was with John, we live together and the treatment took place in our
> home.
> That was a few years ago.. I had unsuscribed to the list since then
> but now I am back on it..
> and seeing the posts about Marc Emery just made me want to say ..
> there's got to be a better option than trust Marc Emery's people.
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: LEE 
>   To: The Ibogaine List 
>   Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:42 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] The War on Consciousness , Marc Emery
> 
> 
>   catherine,
>   do you know john personally, or were you there??? is this just
> gossip towards marc?
>   it sounds like you were there and I just want to make sure of that
> point... forgive me if the question is obvious, but im slow
> sometimes!!!
>   junky..........the current............. 
> 
> 
> 
>   if someone you love is addicted to something (heroin, cocaine,
> meth, ect), google ibogaine.... its worth your time..... i
> promise....
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: John Schwarzkopf 
>     To: The Ibogaine List 
>     Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:21 PM
>     Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] The War on Consciousness , Marc Emery
> 
> 
> 
>     The temptation has grown since I got back on the list somehow??
> and  got to 
>     read the post from and about Marc Emery..
> 
>     I wanted to say BEWARE OF MARC EMERY!!
> 
>     Marc recommended a woman to treat John (who had been on Methadone
> for 5 
>     years),Linette.
>     Marc attended one of the pre-treatment meeting with us and he
> took Linette 
>     to our home the night
>     of the treatment and collected the second half of the payment.
> 
>     (At some point between the pre-treatment meeting and the
> treatment Linette 
>     called us and said something like "John is gonna die! John is
> gonna die! I 
>     can't do this treatment!!
>     I don't want to go to jail!! My family don't have money to bail
> me out!My 
>     family can't afford a good lawyer! John is gonna die !!" She was
> completely 
>     hysteric and refused to give
>      us back the half of the payment we already given her (she said
> she had 
>     spent some of the money on Indra which is kind of funny since in
> the end we 
>     used HCL(which we trusted better anyhow))).
> 
> 
>     The treatment went fine (Linette called  Marc every hour to
> report on what 
>     was happening) and Linette asked to go home early after 24 hours(
> if I 
>     remember well)
>      because she was coming up with a cold.
>     I gave her a ride home. and thanked her.. I was so happy..though
> we had paid 
>     her (or someone.. she told us that Marc and the Iboga house were
> getting 
>     some $$ and Marc told us that
>     he was not taking any of the cash, just holding it for Linette) ,
> I was 
>     thinking of buying her a present for her help!!
> 
> 
>     I think it was the next day that John started to have
> withdrawals.. at first 
>     I thought it was in his head. but after a while I could see
> physical 
>     symptoms he couldn't have faked.
> 
>     I called Linette and she told me that John was not having
> withdrawals. and 
>     that she was going out for dinner with her family who was
> visiting from 
>     Winnipeg.
>     Also contacted Marc Emery.. couldn't help.
> 
>     I was very lucky that Eric Taub explained to  me (on the phone)
> what was 
>     happening and recommended booster doses.
> 
>     Called Linette again. She was too busy. Didn't believe we needed
> the 
>     boosters. Agreed to give us some Indra .. enough for one
> booster.. in 2 or 3 
>     days.
> 
>     That's when we dug out a HCL stash John had had for years. bought
> it from 
>     someone.. didn't know if it was what it was supposed to be.
> didn't know if 
>     it had lost potency.
>     but that was all we had.  And NO SCALE!! as i tried to figure who
> I could 
>     call to go get me a scale and bring it over.. John decided to
> just guess and 
>     helped himself to a booster dose.
> 
>     It worked. John had to take a few booster doses but it worked.
> And Linette 
>     was mad that John took booster doses, she said it messed with her
> data!!
> 
>     If we hadn't had that stash John would have had to either do dope
> or 
>     methadone ?? and what are the dangers of that???
>     How long after Ibogaine is it safe to take anything??
> 
>     Marc Emery and his friend put us in a situation way worse that
> where we had 
>     been in the first place.
> 
>     My idea is that they didn't know about booster doses . Didn't
> know that 
>     methadone users are more likely to require them.
> 
>     Other people said that John's treatment was a set up and that he
> was 
>     supposed to relapse. (That Marc's crew knew full well he would
> need 
>     boosters).
>     I have to attribute this to paranoia.
>     Or is it a possibility?
> 
>     I think it would be very wrong for Canada to extradite Marc
> Emery.
>     but I would feel way better knowing he wasn't treating people
> with Ibogaine.
> 
>     If you get treated by his crew for Methadone  I'd recommend
> having a stash 
>     of Ibogaine handy in case they drop you  half way.
> 
>     Catherine Morency
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: "Patrick K. Kroupa" <digital at phantom.com>
>     To: "The Ibogaine List" <ibogaine at mindvox.com>; "The War on
> Consciousness" 
>     <drugwar at mindvox.com>; <sacrament at mindvox.com>;
> <vox at mindvox.com>; 
>     <crashtestdummies at mindvox.com>; <resurrection at mindvox.com>
>     Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:01 AM
>     Subject: [Ibogaine] The War on Consciousness
> 
> 
>     >
>     > If you have any interest whatsoever regarding the negative
> impact of
>     > the War on Consciousness; I meant to say DRUGS -- PLEASE take
> the
>     > time to check out the following link, and take some sort of
> action.
>     >
>     > http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4639.html
>     >
>     > Even if you're broke, you can write a letter or make a phone
> call.
>     >
>     > Amongst his other projects, Marc Emery is the founder of Iboga
>     > Therapy House, and has devoted a tremendous amount of his time,
>     > effort and cashflow, to helping drug-dependent individuals
> obtain
>     > free access to ibogaine.
>     >
>     > His extradition hearing has been scheduled to begin on November
> 5th,
>     > 2007.
>     >
>     > If you support drug-reform, harm reduction, or basic human
> liberty
>     > and freedom of choice, please take a few minutes and do
> whatever you
>     > can.
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     >
>     > Patrick
>     >
>     >
>     >
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