[Ibogaine] church of scientology vs. ibogaine

Brad Hays bradleyheathhays at gmail.com
Tue Sep 18 23:33:17 EDT 2007


Maybe the Hubbardites are against ibo because it gives people the vision and
insight to realize they don't need scientology.  Same reason the government
has it schedule I if ya ask me


On 9/18/07, Matthew Shriver <Matt at itsupport.net> wrote:
>
> There was a bunch of controversy here about a scientology based recovery
> center that opened with public funding.  I was looking for one of the
> articles about it from the past and found this
>
> http://www.scientology-lies.com/press/wall-street-journal/2007-01-19/second-
> chance-program-divides-judges.html  I guess from what it says they are no
> longer in operation here.  I remember reading about it last year and
> thinking it was a bunch of crap.
>
> Matt
>
> And Joe you seriously need a jimmy kick for posting that thing about
> getting
> off of the list after what Patrick sent out.
>
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>
>
> Mase I wouldn't want to revise my opinion of you, but I no longer think
> of you only as a cranky old geezer. you're a funny old geezer, that was
> brilliant! :)
>
> .:vector:.
>
>
> --- Mason Shipley <maseshipley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This has got to be one of the dumbest most ill conceived ideas I've
> > ever
> > seen. As I've said here in the past, my background is the rooms and
> > not
> > having a great deal of success staying clean. I'm not seen much
> > knowledge of
> > ibogaine in any of the meetings I attend and the few who haveh heard
> > of it
> > are some in a fearing or angry space and it's another drug and others
> > are
> > more open. Though this is the first time I've seen an organized
> > recovery
> > group go out of their way to attack ibogaine. It's more then a little
> > strange to see a group which is often attacked and accused of the
> > very same
> > brainwashing they're ranting about, turn around and pick a fight with
> > ibogaine of all things?
> >
> > Not really sure I get what they're thinking. Whatever all they may
> > be, the
> > church of scientology is not stupid. What a leftist liberal group
> > which is
> > usually perceived as being more then a little nuts, hopes to achieve
> > by
> > attacking a plant used to detox people which is already schedule 1
> > and
> > mostly promoted by another group of leftist liberal nuts ;-)
> > .......Why even
> > bother, what is the outcome supposed to be? Maybe I'm not being
> > sensitive
> > enough but its like the black gay men group decided to pick a fight
> > with the
> > black lesbian women group.
> >
> > -Mase
> >
> > On 9/18/07, Adam Nodelman <jonathanswiftboat at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > yes,pot kettle , black,etc..only church of sci could come up with
> > the
> > > hypnotic suggestion thing,sacrament envy.just what do they think ol
> > LRON
> > > was looking for out there in outer mongolia in is young
> > days???anyway
> > > whoever these evil scumbags are this falls inti that ol classic
> > maoist
> > > marxim(forgive me nick)something to the effect of it being good
> > that our
> > > enemy has attacked  us,therefore drawing a sharp contrast,or
> > whatever
> > > between us and them.  adam
> > >
> > >
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