[Ibogaine] church of scientology vs. ibogaine

Luke Christoffersen luke.christoffersen at gmail.com
Tue Sep 18 15:22:02 EDT 2007


Going to start printing "I hate scientology" t-shirts.  hahaha  they'd
probably try get me.

Apparently those goons own something called the cult awareness network.
They're dangerous fucking idiots.


On 9/18/07, Vector Vector <vector620022002 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Reposting this thread since I don't think it went out to the full list,
> this was for me anyway the temporary MindVox is back that worked for 2
> days last week :)
>
> .:vector:.
>
> --- wleetheriot <wleetheriot at ca.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > I really like this video:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKBMcKLEIp8&mode=related&search=
> >
> > Warren
> >
> >
> > On Sep 8, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Nick Sandberg wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Matthew and others,
> > >
> > > God, there's some utter bollocks on the Net! I couldn't believe
> > > anyone could write such drivel and pass themselves off as
> > > understanding psychiatry or being fit to treat addiction! I wrote
> > > detox-narconon.org this
> > >
> > > "Hi there, I read your page www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine-
> > > effects.html  I'm sorry, but I've been following the ibogaine story
> >
> > > for nearly 10 years and work as a therapist here in the UK, and
> > > what you're written is utterly mis-informed and makes little sense
> >
> > > from a psychoanalytical perspective. Ibogaine is no magic bullet
> > > for sure, and the reputation it has developed over the years for
> > > potentially being so has been exploited by some proponents and
> > > caused it to be sought after by those with addiction issues who are
> >
> > > seeking an "easy way out." They're attracted to ibogaine for the
> > > wrong reasons. However to write fear-filled nonsense like this is,
> >
> > > imo, utterly unprofessional and simply demonstrates a complete lack
> >
> > > of understanding of basic principles in psychiatry and the
> > > treatment of addiction. Are you interested in removing it or
> > > altering it so that it at least demonstrates a modicum of
> > awareness?
> > > Regards
> > > Nick Sandberg
> > > etc, etc "
> > >
> > > BTW, I'm loving  this - http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?
> > > docid=5547481422995115331   Currently #2 in the google.video daily
> >
> > > chart with 35,000 views daily and it's chalked up nearly 2.5million
> >
> > > since release online in late Jun 07.
> > >
> > > BTW, again, does anyone know what's happened to the list? Did
> > > Patrick not pay the electric bill?
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matthew Shriver [mailto:Matt at ITSupport.net]
> > > Sent: 03 September 2007 22:16
> > > To: 'Luke Christoffersen'; HSLotsof at aol.com
> > > Cc: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk;
> > > ekkijdfg at gmx.de; mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk;
> >
> > > Dana at phantom.com; knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai;
> > > captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; ptpeet at nyc.rr.com;
> > > vector620022002 at yahoo.com; freedomroot at gmail.com;
> > > jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; wleetheriot at ca.rr.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page
> > >
> > > Well the fact that they have this link at the bottom of the page
> > > kinda says what they know about ibogaine:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Click here — how to fully recover from the effect of iboga
> > addiction
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Luke Christoffersen [mailto:luke.christoffersen at gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:24 AM
> > > To: HSLotsof at aol.com
> > > Cc: Matt at itsupport.net; bicuitboy714 at gmail.com;
> > > simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; ekkijdfg at gmx.de;
> > > mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; Dana at phantom.com;
> >
> > > knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai; captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk;
> > > ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; vector620022002 at yahoo.com;
> > > freedomroot at gmail.com; jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au;
> > > wleetheriot at ca.rr.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > they seem to call ibogaine brain washing.  What's even worse I
> > > think this site must have some link the cult of scientology.  The
> > > have links to L Ron hubbards books on it anyway.
> > >
> > > http://www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine-effects.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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