[Ibogaine] church of scientology vs. ibogaine

Vector Vector vector620022002 at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 18 12:47:16 EDT 2007


Reposting this thread since I don't think it went out to the full list,
this was for me anyway the temporary MindVox is back that worked for 2
days last week :)

.:vector:.

--- wleetheriot <wleetheriot at ca.rr.com> wrote:

> I really like this video:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKBMcKLEIp8&mode=related&search=
> 
> Warren
> 
> 
> On Sep 8, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Nick Sandberg wrote:
> 
> > Hi Matthew and others,
> >
> > God, there's some utter bollocks on the Net! I couldn't believe  
> > anyone could write such drivel and pass themselves off as  
> > understanding psychiatry or being fit to treat addiction! I wrote  
> > detox-narconon.org this
> >
> > "Hi there, I read your page www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine- 
> > effects.html  I'm sorry, but I've been following the ibogaine story
>  
> > for nearly 10 years and work as a therapist here in the UK, and  
> > what you're written is utterly mis-informed and makes little sense 
> 
> > from a psychoanalytical perspective. Ibogaine is no magic bullet  
> > for sure, and the reputation it has developed over the years for  
> > potentially being so has been exploited by some proponents and  
> > caused it to be sought after by those with addiction issues who are
>  
> > seeking an "easy way out." They're attracted to ibogaine for the  
> > wrong reasons. However to write fear-filled nonsense like this is, 
> 
> > imo, utterly unprofessional and simply demonstrates a complete lack
>  
> > of understanding of basic principles in psychiatry and the  
> > treatment of addiction. Are you interested in removing it or  
> > altering it so that it at least demonstrates a modicum of
> awareness?
> > Regards
> > Nick Sandberg
> > etc, etc "
> >
> > BTW, I'm loving  this - http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay? 
> > docid=5547481422995115331   Currently #2 in the google.video daily 
> 
> > chart with 35,000 views daily and it's chalked up nearly 2.5million
>  
> > since release online in late Jun 07.
> >
> > BTW, again, does anyone know what's happened to the list? Did  
> > Patrick not pay the electric bill?
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Shriver [mailto:Matt at ITSupport.net]
> > Sent: 03 September 2007 22:16
> > To: 'Luke Christoffersen'; HSLotsof at aol.com
> > Cc: bicuitboy714 at gmail.com; simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk;  
> > ekkijdfg at gmx.de; mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; 
> 
> > Dana at phantom.com; knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai;  
> > captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk; ptpeet at nyc.rr.com;  
> > vector620022002 at yahoo.com; freedomroot at gmail.com;  
> > jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au; wleetheriot at ca.rr.com
> > Subject: RE: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page
> >
> > Well the fact that they have this link at the bottom of the page  
> > kinda says what they know about ibogaine:
> >
> >
> >
> > Click here — how to fully recover from the effect of iboga
> addiction
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Luke Christoffersen [mailto:luke.christoffersen at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:24 AM
> > To: HSLotsof at aol.com
> > Cc: Matt at itsupport.net; bicuitboy714 at gmail.com;  
> > simonloxton at yahoo.co.uk; ekkijdfg at gmx.de;  
> > mattzielinski at hotmail.com; nick227 at tiscali.co.uk; Dana at phantom.com;
>  
> > knehnav at xs4all.nl; slowone at hush.ai; captkirknz at yahoo.co.uk;  
> > ptpeet at nyc.rr.com; vector620022002 at yahoo.com;  
> > freedomroot at gmail.com; jasenhappy at optusnet.com.au;  
> > wleetheriot at ca.rr.com
> > Subject: Re: [Ibogaine] dogy ibogaine misinformation page
> >
> >
> >
> > they seem to call ibogaine brain washing.  What's even worse I  
> > think this site must have some link the cult of scientology.  The  
> > have links to L Ron hubbards books on it anyway.
> >
> > http://www.detox-narconon.org/Ibogaine-effects.html
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 



       
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